Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Is there anyone else that wishes Remington would make a three position safety on their 700's that locks the bolt when closed and can still unload the rifle with the safety in a safe position?
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Nope
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Still no.....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
No...but I do like the old 2-position safety lever that locked the bolt closed. Just like a current Tikka T3 does.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
You mean like this one, made by PTG?
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Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Nope here also.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
NULA makes a two position safety that locks the bolt but still allows it to be operated with the safety on. It looks like a standard Remington two position safety lever except it locks the bolt. But if you push it straight down, you can lift the bolt with the safety on.
I believe that was an aftermarket option for Remington triggers, it's still listed for $36 on their website, but you might give them a call to see if it still fits the latest triggers.
http://www.newultralight.com/HTML/custom-rifles.html
I believe that was an aftermarket option for Remington triggers, it's still listed for $36 on their website, but you might give them a call to see if it still fits the latest triggers.
http:/
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
No here also.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
When I hear people crow about the 3 position safety being one of the best features of a M70 I KNOW they've read too much Field & Stream.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Nope. No reason for it.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Nope
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Hell no
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
YES
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Originally Posted by Steelhead
When I hear people crow about the 3 position safety being one of the best features of a M70 I KNOW they've read too much Field & Stream.
Nailed it.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
It's easy to see who don't hunt horseback much. Most scabbards tend to open the bolt in rough country. The bolt lock tends to keep pine needles, snow, and chit outta the rifle. They gots their place....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
I fugging hate horses.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
I'd happily hunt a horse and I don't need no flipping 3 position safety to do it....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Yeah, but when you say "hunt a horse," most people don't understand what you mean. 
I like the three position, BTW.
I like the three position, BTW.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Scott. I've learned to respect your opinion Could you share the rationale for your preference of the 2 position safety?
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Lotta these safety issues can be solved by not running around hot chambered alla the time. YMMV
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
yep...
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
My first rifle was a M70 and I love a 3 position safety for no other reason than that is what I shot for years. I've got a lot of rifles and I can make them work just fine without a three position safety, but I do prefer them. Only time I read Field and Stream is at the Doctors or Barbers.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
TWO positions--on or off. No messing around, no wondering, no accidents in the middle, etc.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Check out Rich Riely of High Tech Customs for a three position safety.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/23/14
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
TWO positions--on or off.
That's what SHE said.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Originally Posted by lonehawk
Is there anyone else that wishes Remington would make a three position safety on their 700's that locks the bolt when closed and can still unload the rifle with the safety in a safe position?
Buy a winchester....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
thats why i buy rugers.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
No
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
No...but I do like the old 2-position safety lever that locked the bolt closed.
Me too.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Good points about 3 position safeties:
Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.
With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.
Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.
The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?
Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.
Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).
If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.
I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.
Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.
With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.
Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.
The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?
Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.
Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).
If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.
I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.
Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.
Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
I don't care if it has 2 positions or 3. I do want the bolt handle locked down
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
I've carried Remingtons hot for 35 years. 700's and 721's. Damn sure don't need a 3 position. Muskeg, you make no sense. mtmuley
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Good points about 3 position safeties:
Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.
With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.
Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.
The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?
Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.
Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).
If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.
I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.
Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.
With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.
Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.
The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?
Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.
Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).
If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.
I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.
Sweet Jesus, if you can't disassemble a Remington 700 in the field you shouldn't be trusted with a rifle to begin with.
I've no doubt much stumps you Bob.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..
I was thinking about this the other day, so I might as well throw a log on the fire.
We were told as kids the safety is a mechanical device, and to never trust it. Hence don't carry hot.
Virtually in the same sentence we were told to ALWAYS treat a firearms as if it were loaded.
Bearing those things in mind, doesn't it boil down to muzzle discipline? Do you trust yourself with a gun ( hot or cold) or don't you?
There...that oughta spool a few people up.....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
The one thing I like about a 3-position safety is when I'm sizing brass for a slight crush fit on the shoulder or necking it down to leave a false shoulder. Putting the safety in the middle position and chambering the case makes it easier to feel the amount of resistance I'm getting because the lugs aren't camming hard when I close the bolt.
No big deal either way though.
No big deal either way though.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
If you are always supposed to carry cold, then there's no reason for a safety at all and no gunmaker would waste time and money putting one on there.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/24/14
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..
Not a one.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by MuskegMan
Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.
Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.
Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.
lol..
Also, I hunted horseback for the first half of my life..Dont recall a single problem with 700's..Seen lots of guys have problems tho. Wonder why?
rhetorical..
To answer the OP,no..I wouldnt give a dam if my rifles didnt even have a safety.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Good points about 3 position safeties:
Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.
With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.
Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.
The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?
Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.
Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).
If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.
I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.
Bolt is locked when safety is fully engaged. This means bolt cannot be inadvertently moved slightly "up"which will case a misfire since action is not now fully cocked.Yes there is some hunting where hunting "hot" is required.If you never have had to hunt "hot" and hunt long enough, eventually, you will.
With a Rem 700 safety not an issue if you constantly roll your thumb over the bolt handle to make sure it is fully "down" and not moved out of position by brush, or rubbing on your coat or the conduct of gremlins,which of course never happens to anyone on here.
Provides a middle position to field strip bolt without special tools, dimes table tops etc,. This is handy when rifle gets cold and wet or frozen or immediate access to inside of bolt will be required for cleaning in the field.
The Rem 700 lets you do this afield.....no?
Also, prudent hand loaders always run loaded ammo through rifle prior to hunts.Firing pin can be removed easily and done safely. Also helpful to hand loaders when the bolt is used as a "feeler gauge"for sized cases with the firing pin removed.
Shroud mounted safety less likely to be inadvertently hit when cycling rifle from shoulder in rapid fire, than a side tang mounted safety.Also less likely to freeze in place from snow and ice during tough conditions. (This may not be an issue from blinds or where weather does not go from freezing rain and snow to below freezing in the span of an hour or two).
If you can't get a 3 position M70 safety from safe to "fire" in the span of a second or two, more familiarity and practice with the rifle is required.If a 3 position were such an impediment to moving a fully engaged safety to "fire", then guys like Harry Manners would not have ended a career as a PH untouched by dangerous game. The notion that we can't do the same in the presence of a little old deer or elk is hard to swallow.
I didn't learn any of this reading F&S . Actually I can't recall that it was ever explained in that or any other magazine.
Sweet Jesus, if you can't disassemble a Remington 700 in the field you shouldn't be trusted with a rifle to begin with.
I've no doubt much stumps you Bob.
I'm stumped by lots of things.....one thing is how anyone takes you seriously on anything.
FO.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
I prefer 3 position safeties.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..
Not a one.
Because handling a shotgun safely is SOOOOOOO much different than a rifle.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Muzzleloader season must be a b*tch for the cold chamber guys.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
A rifle safety will get you killed.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.
Only after fumble fingers "gunsmiths" attempt to adjust them and don't take responsibility for their incompetence. Not, all, but the vast, vast majority are improperly adjusted (sear engagement) and it has been proven time and time again that this is the case. Still feel nervous, spring $80 for a Timney and get a better triggers to boot. Two positions safeties.....? If they were remotely as "dangerous" as many of the m70 cheerleaders would want you believe, then the military wouldn't hundreds of thousands of them ins service in conditions, I might add, that are far, far more demanding for reliable weapons, so spare me the anecdotal BS. How many m70's are in the hands of our troops.......rest my case. Oh and I know this is coming in this juvenile thread, so lets address the issue of the self-ejecting bolt handle. Now, last figures I've heard was that Remington has sold more than 5 million M700, probably even more by now. We see the same guys (less than a half dozen) posting the same several pictures of faulty bolt handles. Now if I were to tell anyone here that if they played the lottery tomorrow and they had a 99.99999999 percent chance of winning, would you buy a ticket ?
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
No.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Which Bob we talking?
Originally Posted by bellydeep
I prefer 3 position safeties.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Just saw this. Best post ever written. Both with brand and needing a safety.
Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.
Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.
Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.
lol..
Also, I hunted horseback for the first half of my life..Dont recall a single problem with 700's..Seen lots of guys have problems tho. Wonder why?
rhetorical..
To answer the OP,no..I wouldnt give a dam if my rifles didnt even have a safety.
Originally Posted by rosco1
Originally Posted by MuskegMan
Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.
Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.
Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.
lol..
Also, I hunted horseback for the first half of my life..Dont recall a single problem with 700's..Seen lots of guys have problems tho. Wonder why?
rhetorical..
To answer the OP,no..I wouldnt give a dam if my rifles didnt even have a safety.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by MuskegMan
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco
Knew we would get to the carrying hot BS..
Not a one.
Because handling a shotgun safely is SOOOOOOO much different than a rifle.
A "hot chambered one" ?. Do share.....Yes they do have different safety systems, but we're still talking about a chamber hot gun regardless, and all these conversations revolve around how stupid it is to carry a hot chambered guns afield. Sure, you could carry the breech open and rounds in the chambers (on SXS and O/U's but if we are honest, I think we already know that's most likely not the case.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by rickmenefee
Which Bob we talking?
Originally Posted by bellydeep
I prefer 3 position safeties.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
BobinNH
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Roy chamber one and then open you bolt. When you get ready to send-it close your bolt. Its takes 198 trick moves to blow your head off while the bolt is open.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
how do the cold guys hunt heavy timber. i know they can chamber before i can think, but often i cant get a shot let alone load the rifle. just my 2 cents but from my personal experience hunting without the chamber loaded is like gutting a deer without a knife. YMMV
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Maybe this barreled action by one of the masters with make all those nervous Remington guys a little more at ease.
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/7487749
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Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by rickmenefee
Roy chamber one and then open you bolt. When you get ready to send-it close your bolt. Its takes 198 trick moves to blow your head off while the bolt is open.
If you spend all your hunting/shooting time in a blind with a belly gun, shooting tame farm animals in a bean field,everything works.
" Your advice ain't worth a squirt of dog piss....."
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by MuskegMan
Some folks just can't figure out how to safely carry and hunt with a hot rifle. For those, there's the M700.
Other folks know how and when to carry hot. For those, there are the M70's, M77's, Montana's, Mausers, et. al.
Don't try to turn a turd into a real hunting rifle.
Amen, very well said... A lot of truth to that..
Originally Posted by JMR40
I don't care if it has 2 positions or 3. I do want the bolt handle locked down
Yep..
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.
I wouldn't carry "hot" with a rem 700 either. Now I'm starting to understand these rem 700 cheerleaders point of view on this..
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Want to compare say the last 5 years whites and mule's with a public wager? Grin...
Feel free to Plagiarize me anytime make sure to use my words. Unlike yourself I tend to tell the truth
Feel free to Plagiarize me anytime make sure to use my words. Unlike yourself I tend to tell the truth
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by rickmenefee
Want to compare say the last 5 years whites and mule's with a public wager? Grin...
Feel free to Plagiarize me anytime make sure to use my words. Unlike yourself I tend to tell the truth
Feel free to Plagiarize me anytime make sure to use my words. Unlike yourself I tend to tell the truth
Tell me where I lied?
If you are going to accuse me of lying, then be specific.Tell me where I did not tell the "truth".....Pretty heavy accusation. Let's hear it.
Why 5 years? Didn't you do anything before that? Or is that about the time you started hunting the west? You don't look too young to me.
I don't have to apologize to you, or anybody on here for the hunts I've made,the places I've been, and the game I've killed. I don't make public bets for the sake of showing off but someone on here might have some photos of a few animals( the one's I've killed in my "slow years").I'm 64 now....you?
Plagiarize ? You? How can you plagiarize someone who never says anything worthwhile? I am just giving back what you dished out.
Let's hear it....tell me where I did not tell the "truth".
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Know Bob I'm the one that hunts in a pen and bean field. You started this not me. Know Bob- I'm sure your a fine outstanding person that's very close with The Lord and all. That being said words do hurt and you will not internet bully me.
I'm the one that hunts in a pen and bean field. You started this not me. Know Bob- I'm sure your a fine outstanding person that's very close with The Lord and all. That being said words do hurt and you will not internet bully me.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Never said you hunt in a pen Rick...but doubt you have done much hunting that's "tough" either. Being you're from Oklahoma, I can imagine you have been west a few times.
To refresh your memory,you started this little pissing match by telling everyone that my "words ain't worth a squirt of dog piss" a few months back.....nice way to treat a gawdamned customer.
I guess you didn't like the fact that I'm not in love with a 25/06.
Then you tell me, obliquely,that I don't tell the truth, which is another way of saying I'm a liar. I want you to tell me how, and where on here, I lied? I could not have survived and thrived, as an attorney for 30+ years, if my reputation was that I lie. So I take those accusations pretty seriously.
Once again, please tell me where I lied?
To refresh your memory,you started this little pissing match by telling everyone that my "words ain't worth a squirt of dog piss" a few months back.....nice way to treat a gawdamned customer.
I guess you didn't like the fact that I'm not in love with a 25/06.
Then you tell me, obliquely,that I don't tell the truth, which is another way of saying I'm a liar. I want you to tell me how, and where on here, I lied? I could not have survived and thrived, as an attorney for 30+ years, if my reputation was that I lie. So I take those accusations pretty seriously.
Once again, please tell me where I lied?
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Well, it looks like the shack nasties are startin' early this year.......
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
B Bob it's breed in you. I'm sorry. You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the ass. I'm understanding know being a attorney and all your whole life is a lie.this hunting busneiss ain't new to me . So make it easy on yourself Hint....:) 25-06??
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Never said you hunt in a pen Rick...but doubt you have done much hunting that's "tough" either. Being you're from Oklahoma, I can imagine you have been west a few times.
To refresh your memory,you started this little pissing match by telling everyone that my "words ain't worth a squirt of dog piss" a few months back.....nice way to treat a gawdamned customer.
I guess you didn't like the fact that I'm not in love with a 25/06.
Then you tell me, obliquely,that I don't tell the truth, which is another way of saying I'm a liar. I want you to tell me how, and where on here, I lied? I could not have survived and thrived, as an attorney for 30+ years, if my reputation was that I lie. So I take those accusations pretty seriously.
Once again, please tell me where I lied?
To refresh your memory,you started this little pissing match by telling everyone that my "words ain't worth a squirt of dog piss" a few months back.....nice way to treat a gawdamned customer.
I guess you didn't like the fact that I'm not in love with a 25/06.
Then you tell me, obliquely,that I don't tell the truth, which is another way of saying I'm a liar. I want you to tell me how, and where on here, I lied? I could not have survived and thrived, as an attorney for 30+ years, if my reputation was that I lie. So I take those accusations pretty seriously.
Once again, please tell me where I lied?
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Whilst hunting this morning I thought that I should make a little video of how to disassemble a Remington 700 bolt in the field. All without a dime, table top or shaman.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
O bob you are a dandy. Your getting a little smarter Bering a attorney and all. Editing your words in the night:). You best bit may be to shut your mouth
Ps words hurt! please try to be a happier person.
Ps words hurt! please try to be a happier person.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Whilst hunting this morning I thought that I should make a little video of how to disassemble a Remington 700 bolt in the field. All without a dime, table top or shaman.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
If a person can lace their boots they are half way there.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
multiple positions ain't got nothin' to do with rifles...
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.
Only after fumble fingers "gunsmiths" attempt to adjust them and don't take responsibility for their incompetence. Not, all, but the vast, vast majority are improperly adjusted (sear engagement) and it has been proven time and time again that this is the case. Still feel nervous, spring $80 for a Timney and get a better triggers to boot. Two positions safeties.....? If they were remotely as "dangerous" as many of the m70 cheerleaders would want you believe, then the military wouldn't hundreds of thousands of them ins service in conditions, I might add, that are far, far more demanding for reliable weapons, so spare me the anecdotal BS. How many m70's are in the hands of our troops.......rest my case. Oh and I know this is coming in this juvenile thread, so lets address the issue of the self-ejecting bolt handle. Now, last figures I've heard was that Remington has sold more than 5 million M700, probably even more by now. We see the same guys (less than a half dozen) posting the same several pictures of faulty bolt handles. Now if I were to tell anyone here that if they played the lottery tomorrow and they had a 99.99999999 percent chance of winning, would you buy a ticket ?
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Geezus, learn how to spell or at least use spellcheck Menefee. You sound like a retard.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by SLM
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Whilst hunting this morning I thought that I should make a little video of how to disassemble a Remington 700 bolt in the field. All without a dime, table top or shaman.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
If a person can lace their boots they are half way there.
Yep
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Geezus, learn how to spell or at least use spellcheck Menefee. You sound like a retard.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Positive proof anybody can get a masters 😄
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
funny how the 3 position vs 2 position discussion is rarely really about gun safety... generally just an excuse to argue about remingtons vs winchesters...
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by rickmenefee
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Geezus, learn how to spell or at least use spellcheck Menefee. You sound like a retard.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
No need to be sorry. I'm just glad I'm goodlooking.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.
Only after fumble fingers "gunsmiths" attempt to adjust them and don't take responsibility for their incompetence. Not, all, but the vast, vast majority are improperly adjusted (sear engagement) and it has been proven time and time again that this is the case. Still feel nervous, spring $80 for a Timney and get a better triggers to boot. Two positions safeties.....? If they were remotely as "dangerous" as many of the m70 cheerleaders would want you believe, then the military wouldn't hundreds of thousands of them ins service in conditions, I might add, that are far, far more demanding for reliable weapons, so spare me the anecdotal BS. How many m70's are in the hands of our troops.......rest my case. Oh and I know this is coming in this juvenile thread, so lets address the issue of the self-ejecting bolt handle. Now, last figures I've heard was that Remington has sold more than 5 million M700, probably even more by now. We see the same guys (less than a half dozen) posting the same several pictures of faulty bolt handles. Now if I were to tell anyone here that if they played the lottery tomorrow and they had a 99.99999999 percent chance of winning, would you buy a ticket ?
You are a PISTOLSMITH and I have forgotten more of 700 triggers than you will ever fricking know. And all things rifle related in general. Save it, dumba$$. We HAVE been down this road before. And it has been been well documented that it takes me no time to expose you for the true DUMBFUCK that you are.
Rick Menefee has more knowledge in his pinky finger than you have in your whole body.
Run away and hide now, like you ALWAYS DO. OR, OR, we can debate that in which I will unquestionably expose you for the RETARD that you are. But PLEASE, don't PM me again asking to forgive your perpetual ignorance.........
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Blackheart's claim to fame. Read it all with a glass of whiskey. It is HIGHLY entertaining, Right up until the point where he disappears for a whole month. LMAO.............. 
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9088899/7
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Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Yep, full time pistolsmith for the past year and a half. Four years general gunsmithing before that. You don't know your azzhole from your elbow. You've just got a big fuggin' mouth and a severe "little man" complex, most likely due to an extemely tiny penis.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Wow. Do you always post $hit 2x in hopes it will take on more meaning?
Any time you would like to profess your vast knowledge of rifles to me, let me know, princess. Just remember that you got laughed outta the building last time
It is a GREAT little read, isn't it?
Any time, Mr "Gunsmith". My last fart exceeded your total rifle I.Q. by at least 5X.....
Any time you would like to profess your vast knowledge of rifles to me, let me know, princess. Just remember that you got laughed outta the building last time
It is a GREAT little read, isn't it?
Any time, Mr "Gunsmith". My last fart exceeded your total rifle I.Q. by at least 5X.....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by twofish
Originally Posted by SLM
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Whilst hunting this morning I thought that I should make a little video of how to disassemble a Remington 700 bolt in the field. All without a dime, table top or shaman.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
Of course I've never had the need to disassemble one in the field, but I'll make a video anyways for the Outdoor Life readers that might feel the need to do so betwixt shots at charging brown bears.
I also appreciate the point about hunting with a shotgun with the chamber hot or cold. [bleep] shotguns should have a 3 position safety too.
If a person can lace their boots they are half way there.
Yep
In the book. Pop Tart probably read it in SOF.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Originally Posted by 2muchgun
Wow. Do you always post $hit 2x in hopes it will take on more meaning?
Any time you would like to profess your vast knowledge of rifles to me, let me know, princess. Just remember that you got laughed outta the building last time
It is a GREAT little read, isn't it?
Any time, Mr "Gunsmith". My last fart exceeded your total rifle I.Q. by at least 5X.....
Any time you would like to profess your vast knowledge of rifles to me, let me know, princess. Just remember that you got laughed outta the building last time
It is a GREAT little read, isn't it?
Any time, Mr "Gunsmith". My last fart exceeded your total rifle I.Q. by at least 5X.....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Do you realize just how easy it is for me to make you look silly? You do it all on your own. You just did it again.
You are too stupid to know when you are made to look stupid. Because Lord knows you were you made to look VERY stupid.
That is the problem with stupid people. They are too stupid to realize it. You can't fix stupid, and you obviously qualify, in spades.....
You are too stupid to know when you are made to look stupid. Because Lord knows you were you made to look VERY stupid.
That is the problem with stupid people. They are too stupid to realize it. You can't fix stupid, and you obviously qualify, in spades.....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/25/14
Shall we go back to the original questions? Feel free to categorically expound on each. If need be, I can help you remember what each were/are.
Or you can just disappear when confronted, per usual.
Ain't this fun? I can grab you by the earlobe and drag you around the classroom all day long
Or you can just disappear when confronted, per usual.
Ain't this fun? I can grab you by the earlobe and drag you around the classroom all day long
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
Originally Posted by 2muchgun
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Don't hold your breath. After all these years Remington is still trying to figure out how to make a safety that doesn't also double as a trigger occasionally.
Only after fumble fingers "gunsmiths" attempt to adjust them and don't take responsibility for their incompetence. Not, all, but the vast, vast majority are improperly adjusted (sear engagement) and it has been proven time and time again that this is the case. Still feel nervous, spring $80 for a Timney and get a better triggers to boot. Two positions safeties.....? If they were remotely as "dangerous" as many of the m70 cheerleaders would want you believe, then the military wouldn't hundreds of thousands of them ins service in conditions, I might add, that are far, far more demanding for reliable weapons, so spare me the anecdotal BS. How many m70's are in the hands of our troops.......rest my case. Oh and I know this is coming in this juvenile thread, so lets address the issue of the self-ejecting bolt handle. Now, last figures I've heard was that Remington has sold more than 5 million M700, probably even more by now. We see the same guys (less than a half dozen) posting the same several pictures of faulty bolt handles. Now if I were to tell anyone here that if they played the lottery tomorrow and they had a 99.99999999 percent chance of winning, would you buy a ticket ?
You are a PISTOLSMITH and I have forgotten more of 700 triggers than you will ever fricking know. And all things rifle related in general. Save it, dumba$$. We HAVE been down this road before. And it has been been well documented that it takes me no time to expose you for the true DUMBFUCK that you are.
Rick Menefee has more knowledge in his pinky finger than you have in your whole body.
Run away and hide now, like you ALWAYS DO. OR, OR, we can debate that in which I will unquestionably expose you for the RETARD that you are. But PLEASE, don't PM me again asking to forgive your perpetual ignorance.........
I had my 3 accidental discharge last Friday in almost 20 years of carry and using a rifle (daily). Had to through that in for dumb [bleep] (Bob). Anyway a safety on a Winchester or 700 sooner or later will get you killed. Its the season most of us are hunting with are loved ones. Be carefull
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
You're too stupid to realize you aren't leading me anywhere and have never proved anything other than you're a huge, gaping dumbazz.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
Originally Posted by bellydeep
I prefer 3 position safeties.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
Bob has a point.
I wish Remington would either go with a 3 position or go back to the old bolt locking one.
I shoot nothing BUT the old 700's that had the locking bolts. The first thing I do is fix it. Then I carry it HOT.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
Originally Posted by Blackheart
You're too stupid to realize you aren't leading me anywhere and have never proved anything other than you're a huge, gaping dumbazz.
Yes, but I notice you still dodge every question I ask. Unable to back up a single word you say. That would be because your tiny brain is unable keep up with your big mouth....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
[quote=rickmenefee..... Thanks for the words. Don't get in know pissing match on my behalf.
I had my 3 accidental discharge last Friday in almost 20 years of carry and using a rifle (daily). Had to through that in for dumb [bleep] (Bob). Anyway a safety on a Winchester or 700 sooner or later will get you killed. Its the season most of us are hunting with are loved ones. Be carefull [/quote]
Rick you didn't really have three accidental discharges in one day did you..?
In any event don't mention it on my behalf since I don't recall talking about that issue with Rem 700's....never had it happen myself so will leave that to others.
As to your reference to my lack of intellectual capacity, all I can say is that your spelling and word context apparently improves when you try to insert deleted expletives into your sentences,since this website picked it up....kind of like someone who has not progressed beyond the age of 12.
I wish like hell I understood the rest of what you wrote but it's a bit too painful to bother with.
Have another drink,Muffin, and you'll be fine...
Oh...BTW......Happy Thanksgiving!
I had my 3 accidental discharge last Friday in almost 20 years of carry and using a rifle (daily). Had to through that in for dumb [bleep] (Bob). Anyway a safety on a Winchester or 700 sooner or later will get you killed. Its the season most of us are hunting with are loved ones. Be carefull [/quote]
Rick you didn't really have three accidental discharges in one day did you..?
In any event don't mention it on my behalf since I don't recall talking about that issue with Rem 700's....never had it happen myself so will leave that to others.
As to your reference to my lack of intellectual capacity, all I can say is that your spelling and word context apparently improves when you try to insert deleted expletives into your sentences,since this website picked it up....kind of like someone who has not progressed beyond the age of 12.
I wish like hell I understood the rest of what you wrote but it's a bit too painful to bother with.
Have another drink,Muffin, and you'll be fine...
Oh...BTW......Happy Thanksgiving!
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
I think the real question is whether or not I can get a two position safety for my model 70's...
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
Nah, that's not the real question.
12 pages, max. This one's about out of insults.
12 pages, max. This one's about out of insults.
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
Originally Posted by BobinNH
[quote=rickmenefee..... Thanks for the words. Don't get in know pissing match on my behalf.
I had my 3 accidental discharge last Friday in almost 20 years of carry and using a rifle (daily). Had to through that in for dumb [bleep] (Bob). Anyway a safety on a Winchester or 700 sooner or later will get you killed. Its the season most of us are hunting with are loved ones. Be carefull
I had my 3 accidental discharge last Friday in almost 20 years of carry and using a rifle (daily). Had to through that in for dumb [bleep] (Bob). Anyway a safety on a Winchester or 700 sooner or later will get you killed. Its the season most of us are hunting with are loved ones. Be carefull
Rick you didn't really have three accidental discharges in one day did you..?
In any event don't mention it on my behalf since I don't recall talking about that issue with Rem 700's....never had it happen myself so will leave that to others.
As to your reference to my lack of intellectual capacity, all I can say is that your spelling and word context apparently improves when you try to insert deleted expletives into your sentences,since this website picked it up....kind of like someone who has not progressed beyond the age of 12.
I wish like hell I understood the rest of what you wrote but it's a bit too painful to bother with.
Have another drink,Muffin, and you'll be fine...
bob I'm what I am you are what you are. Grin...Oh...BTW......Happy Thanksgiving![/quote]
Bob good to hear from u. I am what I am you are what you are. Acknowledging the problem is half of it. Grin....
P.s. I saw you had "another" friend with a trigger problem. LMAO
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
Rick hey it happens! What can I say?
Maine is not as dry as Oklahoma, if you know what I mean....
But what is a guy to do if the damned rifle won't go "bang"?
If you want to talk to Jerry yourself, I can ask him.....just so' you know I'm telling the "truth".....
Maine is not as dry as Oklahoma, if you know what I mean....
But what is a guy to do if the damned rifle won't go "bang"?
If you want to talk to Jerry yourself, I can ask him.....just so' you know I'm telling the "truth".....
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14
No I TRUST you. Laughing
Re: Remington three position safety - 11/26/14