I was thinking about getting a Sendero in 7mm, and a couple CDL SF rifles in variose calibers and was wondering if the accuracy would be worth the risk.
I was wanting a CDL SF in 35 whelen, 7-mm-08, and 22-250. I would be reloading for all of them, but am not interested in a rifle that can't do an inch or less with reloads. I have not owned a Remington in probably twenty five years, but have read about their accuracy going down hill horribly. I have also talked to others that have stated that its WAY over blown. Yet others have even said that it depends on which models, and that the CDL SF and the Sendero will have no problem producing good groups with hand loads. At this point Im as confused as I can get......lol
What say you? Thanks

Not necessarily, I have an SPS stainless in 7mm mag that is very accurate. My gunsmith is impressed with Remington quality recently too. I wouldn't touch a Marlin though, now owned by Remington. I think that is where a lot of the Remington quality problems are these days.

Some weirdness might still be going on. I bought a cheapie Rem 783 to mess around with in .223. It is fairly smooth and has a decent trigger. I looked at a 700 ADL? Blind magazine version and the action was rough and seemed to have a bad case of bolt bind or something, I couldn't believe it.
I would say go to your LGS and try one out if it is in stock and then buy the one you get have your hands on if you like it.

With other factory rifles available at a similar price point I'd pass unless looking for a donor action.

Remington still sells a lot of guns. I think there are a greater number of lemons though.

I recently bought a new Remington 700 Mountain SS and it had several issues. The end of the barrel was very rough internally, the bolt lift was very hard, and the barrel was not centered in barrel channel of the B&C stock. I won't buy another new one again.

I had sworn off Remington for a while due to bad experiences with quality. I've since purchased three rifles, all of which have been flawless. First was a 700 ADL in 243 for a price I couldn't pass. Turned out to be a great rifle. Then I had to try an 8 twist SPS in 260. Also turned out great. Last was a Mountain Rifle in 7-08. It's also been top notch. All barrels looked good, all were found to be accurate with little effort at load development.

YMMV.

Several years ago, at Walmart on Black Friday, I bought a couple of the Model 700 ADL's they had on sale. I think they were $270 each after the rebate. Both were in 243, with one being a Youth Model. Both are very accurate rifles, so accurate that I quickly scrapped plans to use them for action donors only. My biggest gripe with the newer Model 700's is the trigger, although the pair I bought at Walmart turned out to have very good ones. I bought a Mountain Rifle several years ago that had such a bad one, that replacement was the only option.

I've bought 2 700s and a Seven in the last year and a half. All have been put together right and very accurate. When I'm in the market for another bolt gun it will be another Remington.

The very fact that you had to question provides your answer.

They clearly had issues a while back, including obvious stuff that should never gone out the door. They also weren't too sharp when it came to "fixing" the problems. Mostly now, they simply don't make anything that interests me.

I have bought a dozen or so NIB Remington 700's and Model Seven rifles over the past 3 years and every one shot MOA with factory ammo right out of the box and I have had zero issues with functioning or fit and finish.....I think ill buy one of the new Model 700 AWR rifles in .300 Win (American Wilderness Rifle) to hunt rifle season this year....Good luck.....Hb

I think their QC has gotten better . I have not seen a problematic one in the last few years.

I own different brand rifles but there is something that just feels right about a remington. Don't get me wrong I like them all but I am pretty fond of a 700

Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe it's b/c I started with a 700 and my hands grew around it.

I think that applies to a majority of gun-owners/hunters..


In my case, the first centerfire rifle I ever bought was a Rem 700 in .222 Rem, maybe back in '64-'65.. It was a good rifle. But it's too far back to recall what I ever did with it. I must have traded it off for something. The very next centerfire I bought was the (circa) '71 Win M70 in .264 that I still have and still use. And that's the model I've loved ever since..

Remington's accuracy going 'down-hill'?? I don't think so! I purchased a M700 DPS about a month back....removed the barreled action and dropped it into the stock shown and to date I've fired six five shot groups with it from 600 yards and the largest group shown is the one below and I can cover those five with the knuckles of my fist!

VS308 by Sharps Man, on Flickr

My 308 Winchester by Sharps Man, on Flickr

Caliber: 308 Winchester

Not necessarily. He said, he'd read different reports and people had varying opinions.

I think a consensus here from people who've bought Rem. recently would give a fair idea of current products.

I have several Rem. rifles but the last NEW one was bought in 1995. It's a great gun/shooter. (Shooter)

Jerry

Remington's rock! I can't even count how many I have owned and I still own a bunch. They have come and gone, I keep the stellar shooters. I have only had two that just wouldn't shoot. One being a Model 7 in .300 SAUM and the other being a SPS in .300 Ultra. All the others with the right hand load shot well, a few unbelievably well!

I have a .270 Win Rem700 ADL, $299.00 from Bi-Mart on sale. That will shoot along with any of my full customs. It makes a guy just stand and scratch his head. Maybe it was the Redbull, I was just shaking the same way each time I slapped the trigger.

This is what that bargain price ADL did the first time I shot it at 300 yards.

I recently bought a new Remlin 336 30-30. When I got it home I noticed the barrel was crooked. Turns out the receiver was drilled and tapped crooked so the barrel was improperly indexed to the receiver as Remington says. It's been back in Ilion for a couple weeks now.

Purchased a new model 7 last year and the bolt body had a crack running the full length from improper pressing of the bolt head to the bolt body. Had stock issues on a prior cdl as well...trigger recalls on both.

Saw a bdl with the spray paint peeling off the floor plate st my dealer last week

I'm done with them

Had my head turned by one of the G2 5R's until I saw rust was already in the muzzle threads. Unbelievable.

If they had a model 700 I was after I'd have no issue with the current quality. They generally function fine and I've had more mechanical issues with other brands. Are they perfect? No. But what is? I've bought $2000 rifles that eject into the bottom of a scope. 700s usually function properly.

Their accuracy seems good, plan to install a Timney trigger and you'll probably have an excellent carefree accurate rifle with a stainless SPS.
If worried be sure to shoot it a lot right away so if anything shows up it can be fixed under warranty.

At our annual family sight-in days I have helped two of my nephews, my brother, and a friend of my son sight in new Remington rifles. All of them, without exception, easily shot factory ammo into around an inch with just a few rounds of shooting. A 270, 2- 300 WM's, and a 300 UM.
However, the POS scope mounts included with 2 of the rifles in the "Kit" were so poor, the mounts kept shifting on 2 of the rifles. Once we got that figured out, the rest was easy. New bases/rings are on the way.....

Oh, the triggers were absolutely awful- felt like somewhere around 8 lbs but broke cleanly once they did finally get tugged hard enough. A little adjustment and they should be fine.

Bob

I wouldn't take a new Remington if it was free. They have won the great race to the bottom of quality control at any price.

Cabelas had a bare bones sps model on sale a while back for 350$. That's the only time I would get one, because at that price you can still afford to have some work done, tune trigger, upgrade stock.

Once you get up to cdl prices, as others have mentioned, there are some other good factory choices to think about.

Most of the old ones were good. The new ones can be shooters too. All you have to do is replace the barrel, trigger and stock. May as well build a custom rifle. The 700 action is still a great donor for a build.

Buy a used one for the action and send it to Redneck here from the fire to build you what you want. You certainly won't have to worry about quality then.

The only question his question answers is..."Am I putting too much stock in second-hand information."

Any rifle you purchase, you must inspect carefully. That includes Remington.

The main issue I have with Remington at present...is that they have just about priced themselves out of the market.

This is the standard American consumer approach to American products. it is not the standard approach in Europe. The Germans, Austrians, Finns, etc. are very determined to build stuff right the first time. The European consumer expects nothing less.

American manufacturers push everything out the door and then rely on "Warranty" to fix all the problems that should not have left the factory.

As a Canadian consumer with access to both European and American products, I much prefer the European approach.

My new Remlin 336 came through with a crooked barrel. It's been back with Remington since the beginning of October. I'd love to have it before deer season
Remington quality is too big a risk. Buy Winchester.

I just had Redneck bed a new 243 SPS into a Manners and that thing SHOOTS, crap trigger and all.

For some things I agree but there are still quality American products. America is a young fast growth country. We don't build houses out of stone and roofs of slate like they do in Europe but Europe builds some products that are junk too. I've had multiple European rifles that didn't function properly. European optics and rifles are often larger and heavier than American also. There is still craftsmanship in America if you know where to look.

Remington was never a premium brand to me. They found a way to produce rifles more efficiently than their main competitor Winchester. The 700 has been very successful and I think if one stays away from the budget models quality would be fine.

Remington single-handedly destroyed the Marlin Firearms Company after they bought it when they fired the workers, moved the factory, and turned out absolute crap from that point on.

Remington used to produce rifles by which other company's rifles were judged, and used to be innovative, bringing out or standardizing great cartridges like the 25-06 and 7 RM.

The era of holding companies put an end to that. I wouldn't touch a new Marlin or Remington.

new 700 SPS varmint .308, no issues.

I have a Rem 700 SPS 308 Winchester purchased in 2008. I heard then the barrels were possibly outsourced and subsequently quite accurate. Mine is very accurate.

I lurve it:

Only barrels that they outsourced were some 22RF, 204, and 17 cal.

This is just another Chebby-Ferdge thread.

I buy them as donors but the last few have been good shooters as delivered from the factory.