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I stopped in to my local gun store today and they had a Ruger 77 stainless boat paddle (Zytel) .30/06 on consignment for $550.00. I did not handle it but the floorplate had some marks on it, so it is not NIB. However it seemed like a good price to me, and it might be possible to dicker a bit. I already have one or it would have probably followed me home. If anybody is interested, here is the website: http://www.jssportsupply.com/index.html
Not too many years ago the pawn shops had them piled up, with 350 as the going rate.

Then everyone decided they were cool and now I don't see them anymore.

Good thing I bought mine when they were cheap!
Let's face it - the Zytel boat paddle Rugers suck.

They suck so bad I have three of them, .30-06, .300WM and .338WM.
Originally Posted by bellydeep
Not too many years ago the pawn shops had them piled up, with 350 as the going rate.

Then everyone decided they were cool and now I don't see them anymore.

Good thing I bought mine when they were cheap!



They were $349.00 when I used to buy them. That was the "new in box" price... The one I really regret not buying was a like new/used stainless boat paddle 270 win for $270.00......
The crappiest excuse for a stock I've ever seen... but as HL Mencken opined; "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence (and/or taste) of the American public."
My first new rifle was a boat paddle in .308. It's still in the safe, wearing a Boyd's JRS classic. The stock is hung in the basements floor joists. $550 was more than the rifle cost new, and I'd not consider it money well spent for another one.
Everybody does not love PURPLE, just an example.

1 mans junk......

I think it's GREAT that everybody does NOT love the SAME things. BORING !

Jerry
On second thot, I think the Boat Paddle stock would go well w/the Creed.

Jerry
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Let's face it - the Zytel boat paddle Rugers suck.
They suck so bad I have three of them, .30-06, .300WM and .338WM.


For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.

THE biggest objection I had to them was the FRONT, sling RIG. They would click side to side. I'm sure I could have solved that fairly easily but didn't get a rifle. That was NOT the reason I didn't get one.

Jerry


Originally Posted by jwall

For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.



So you've never owned one, but have posted three times on this thread?

Good grief.

The reason they suck so badly is how they handle recoil, not how they look. If you'd owned one you would know that.
Limbsaver recoil pads have taken the hurt out of the hurt out of shooting. The stocks are very stiff and the recoil pad it comes with is just plane hard. Maybe men were more rugged back then. The limbsaver pads fit perfectly. I have two rifles and an extra stock in waiting. The 260 I lucked into. The other and the stock I got here. Perfect for me since I don't want to worry about scratches or dings. A working instrument and not furniture. A lot of people don't like that. It is their right to have pretty rifles. That makes the economy keep working and people keep reading items here. Have a good day.

Also I have two lab pups for sale in the classifieds. Appreciate it if you take a look.
Originally Posted by Brad


Originally Posted by jwall

For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.



So you've never owned one, but have posted three times on this thread?

Good grief.

The reason they suck so badly is how they handle recoil, not how they look. If you'd owned one you would know that.


Ok ? I guess that looking, handling, examining, and having friends that have them DOES NOT give me 'FREEDOM, LIBERTY, & RIGHT' to talk about them. ---Happy 4th of July !!

Sorry I did NOT ask your permission......NOT!

Jerry
If you see one in the shops around here they are no higher than the guns with newer style stocks.

Shops will give $400-$450 on trade and have them for sale for $475+/-, maybe $500+ on a minty one.

I have shot a few and never thought recoil was any worse than any other stock whether wood or synthetic. Bud had a 300 that was fairly tame and a 7mm Mag that got traded back to the shop the same day he bought it, one kicking SOB.
You should stick to talking about things you know something about, like goat hunting...
The stocks are sturdy, tough, and dependable. They also have horrible ergonomics, heavy, they are slick and hard to hold on to, the sling mounts suck big time and the tiny hard butt plates magnify recoil. They have gained somewhat of a cult like following and can be sold at a premium. I've had a couple over the years. If the negatives don't bother you they simply work. The last one I ended up with I replaced with a newer synthetic made for the Hawkeye that I bought straight from Ruger and sold the boat paddle stock to one of the loonies that like them. I sold my old boat paddle stock for more than the new replacement cost me and made 2 people happy.

The newer design proved to be every bit as durable and accurate. It had real checkering to hold on to, real sling swivel studs, a wide soft butt plate that tamed recoil, and was lighter.
I bought a 243 stainless the second year of the MKIIs. I call it "the ugly stick" because of the stock. I hated the stock and planned on changing it for a laminate stock. The more I used the rifle the more I appreciated the stock. Yes, it is ugly but is functional and I can't do much to make it uglier!!! laugh
If anyone is looking for a boat paddle stock I have one sitting here from a .30-06. It has an added sling swivel on the fore end for a bipod.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by bellydeep
Not too many years ago the pawn shops had them piled up, with 350 as the going rate.

Then everyone decided they were cool and now I don't see them anymore.

Good thing I bought mine when they were cheap!



They were $349.00 when I used to buy them. That was the "new in box" price... The one I really regret not buying was a like new/used stainless boat paddle 270 win for $270.00......


I passed up a .270 at a gun show. Thought if I waited until the next day I might get it for $315 instead of the $325 the seller was asking. Got to the show right after it opened then next morning and some guy was filling out the paperwork on it..

That was one of two rifles I regret not buying on the spot. The other was a pre-WWII 8mm Mauser with a Berlin crest on it. The owner was German and brought it over to the US in '56. It had been sporterized with a new stock and trigger work and was a gorgeous rifle with a slick action. Passed on it at $225. Dumb. Live and learn...
Originally Posted by trplem
My first new rifle was a boat paddle in .308. It's still in the safe, wearing a Boyd's JRS classic. The stock is hung in the basements floor joists. $550 was more than the rifle cost new, and I'd not consider it money well spent for another one.

Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Let's face it - the Zytel boat paddle Rugers suck.
They suck so bad I have three of them, .30-06, .300WM and .338WM.


For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.

THE biggest objection I had to them was the FRONT, sling RIG. They would click side to side. I'm sure I could have solved that fairly easily but didn't get a rifle. That was NOT the reason I didn't get one.

Jerry


Take a good look at my ..30-06, the one on the right. Picked it up used. Someone did a nice job of installing studs.
Originally Posted by Brad


Originally Posted by jwall

For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.



So you've never owned one, but have posted three times on this thread?

Good grief.

The reason they suck so badly is how they handle recoil, not how they look. If you'd owned one you would know that.


My three are .338WM with a Limbsaver recoil pad and a .300WM and .30-06 with factory pads, Recoil isn't really an issue compared to my other rifles, in part because I rarely shoot them without wearing hunting clothes or a shoulder pad to provide about the same LOP as when wearing the hunting clothes. In any case, replacing the factory pad with a Limbsaver really reduces felt recoil.

What I do really like about them are the light weight and stability and the fact that I don't give a flip if they get scratched or dinged. And no hollow sound.

While I understand why people don't like them, I;m looking to get more.
Originally Posted by Brad


Originally Posted by jwall

For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.



So you've never owned one, but have posted three times on this thread?

Good grief.

The reason they suck so badly is how they handle recoil, not how they look. If you'd owned one you would know that.



One man's mule is another man's pussycat. I had a boat paddle 30-06 and the recoil did not seem bad at all even with 180 grain heavy loads. A Tikka T3 lite 308 with standard loads was downright punishing to me though. Stock fit varies from person to person.
$500.00+ is way too much for the rifle the OP mentioned. Years ago I paid $500.00 for a brand new .338WM with the boat paddle, and figured that the recoil pad was just too thin and hard. I replaced the stock with a Hogue Rubber-Overmolded and could not be happier. But the boat paddle stock is indestructible. It would handle anything you can put it through.
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter

Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
Let's face it - the Zytel boat paddle Rugers suck.
They suck so bad I have three of them, .30-06, .300WM and .338WM.

THE biggest objection I had to them was the FRONT, sling RIG. They would click side to side. I'm sure I could have solved that fairly easily but didn't get a rifle. That was NOT the reason I didn't get one.

Jerry


Take a good look at my ..30-06, the one on the right. Picked it up used. Someone did a nice job of installing studs.


Yes C H, I've seen your pic before and noticed the 'studs' and ALSO have seen 1 or a few others similar. I haven't kept up w/them to see if Ruger changed them as OEM. I have seen and handled them at Gun Shows and still like the looks.

Thanks

Jerry
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter


My three are .338WM with a Limbsaver recoil pad and a .300WM and .30-06 with factory pads, Recoil isn't really an issue compared to my other rifles,
**** in part because I rarely shoot them without wearing hunting clothes or a shoulder pad to provide about the same LOP as when wearing the hunting clothes.

**** In any case, replacing the factory pad with a Limbsaver really reduces felt recoil.

What I do really like about them are the light weight and stability and the fact that I don't give a flip if they get scratched or dinged. And no hollow sound.


Yes, There is moreN one way to skin a cat. !

I've been on SS and Synthetic SINCE Skeeter Skelton stated, "Nothing is more practical than SS and synthetic" ! ! I'd have to get my book on Handguns by him to find out HOW LONG back that's been.

He WAS NOT wrong!

Jerry
Originally Posted by TnBigBore

One man's mule is another man's pussycat. I had a boat paddle 30-06 and the recoil did not seem bad at all even with 180 grain heavy loads.

****A Tikka T3 lite 308 with standard loads was downright punishing to me though.

***Stock fit varies from person to person.


T B B - I HAD that same experience, aka PAIN, with a Ruger 77 tanger 338 WM. I have a 700 BDL 8mm Rem Mag and have shot a 375 H H more THAN ENUFF to know they did NOT hurt me. The tanger went down the road so fast it kicked up DUST.!!!!!

Jerry
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag

I have shot a few and never thought recoil was any worse than any other stock whether wood or synthetic. Bud had a 300 that was fairly tame and a 7mm Mag that got traded back to the shop the same day he bought it, one kicking SOB.


10 G, That's interesting.

After I got my Tikka T 3 Lite in 270 W, I 'kinda' thot it kicked AS much as my syn 7 RM. Next time out I took both and shot them back to back. NO it does not kick as much. I still have my syn 7 mag and like it. Killed a buck w/it a couple of seasons back.

Jerry
Originally Posted by HUNTS
If anyone is looking for a boat paddle stock I have one sitting here from a .30-06. It has an added sling swivel on the fore end for a bipod.


IF, IF I knew that stock would fit my 98 Mauser, which is std L A, aka 30-06 length, I'd seriously consider buying it from you.

The Ruger 77 is a 'mirror image' of the 98 but I'm not sure about how close the fit might be.

Does anyone -- know if that swap would work ?

Jerry
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by HUNTS
If anyone is looking for a boat paddle stock I have one sitting here from a .30-06. It has an added sling swivel on the fore end for a bipod.


IF, IF I knew that stock would fit my 98 Mauser, which is std L A, aka 30-06 length, I'd seriously consider buying it from you.

The Ruger 77 is a 'mirror image' of the 98 but I'm not sure about how close the fit might be.

Does anyone -- know if that swap would work ?

Jerry



Not sure how practical it would be to modify the stock, but the angled front action screw of the Rugers would need some work.
Originally Posted by Brad


Originally Posted by jwall

For whatever reason 1. I liked the looks - skeletal like -, 2. I never got around to getting one.



So you've never owned one, but have posted three times on this thread?

Good grief.

The reason they suck so badly is how they handle recoil, not how they look. If you'd owned one you would know that.


You're not kidding. I was out at the range a couple weeks ago with a boat paddle 7mm Rem Mag and a 300 WBY. The 300 isn't a heavy gun by any means.

After switching back and forth between the two, I decided the 300 shooting 180's at 3200 was preferable to the 7mm shooting 140's at 3150. 100% stock design.
Originally Posted by CMH
Originally Posted by jwall


IF, IF I knew that stock would fit my 98 Mauser, which is std L A, aka 30-06 length, I'd seriously consider buying it from you.

The Ruger 77 is a 'mirror image' of the 98 but I'm not sure about how close the fit might be.

Does anyone -- know if that swap would work ?
Jerry


Not sure how practical it would be to modify the stock, but the angled front action screw of the Rugers would need some work.


BINGO ! I totally agree. That's something that didn't cross my mind. I'm certain it would NOT be a drop in AND
I wouldn't attempt to modify that stock.

Thnx Jerry
Originally Posted by bellydeep

After switching back and forth between the two, I decided the 300 shooting 180's at 3200 was preferable to the 7mm shooting 140's at 3150. 100% stock design.


? ? maybe not 100% design----FIT plays in there too.

Jerry
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by bellydeep

After switching back and forth between the two, I decided the 300 shooting 180's at 3200 was preferable to the 7mm shooting 140's at 3150. 100% stock design.


? ? maybe not 100% design----FIT plays in there too.

Jerry


Nope.
Originally Posted by TnBigBore

One man's mule is another man's pussycat. I had a boat paddle 30-06 and the recoil did not seem bad at all even with 180 grain heavy loads. A Tikka T3 lite 308 with standard loads was downright punishing to me though.

Stock fit varies from person to person.



YEP!
Ugliest freaken invention ever that stock!
Anyone got a long action paddle stock with the number 412 inside the stock I'll buy it from you. I gave mine to my son and haven't found a replacement. PM me if you have one to sell or come across one
thanks
good hunting
Originally Posted by Fotis
Ugliest freaken invention ever that stock!


Beauty is in the eye... wink


We all don't like the same thing. I'm glad.

Jerry
Originally Posted by jwall

Beauty is in the eye... wink




Jerry


of the beer holder LOL
Are you saying, a man would have to be drunk ?? grin

Jerry
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Fotis
Ugliest freaken invention ever that stock!


Beauty is in the eye... wink


From P 3 per Coyote Hunter:
"Yes C H, I've seen your pic before and noticed the 'studs' and ALSO have seen 1 or a few others similar. I have seen and handled them at Gun Shows and still like the looks." smile

My hunting pard that is 68 with health issues, bought a Boat Paddle some yrs. back. Another member of his lease bugged and bugged him till my friend put a high price on it. The other guy whipped out his check book and bought it on the spot. shocked --Beauty is in the eye....

Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by jwall

Beauty is in the eye... wink


of the beer holder LOL


The Boat Paddle stock Ruger to me is LIKE the Rem. Mountain Rifle. I always liked its looks and slim design. Can't say why I never bought one confused-----maybe too many others already ???

I'm STILL trying to talk myself out of getting one. smirk


Jerry
I had one in '06 with rifle sights. The stock was horrible! Skinny on top of the comb, it was like getting karate chopped in the face every time.
I ended up putting it in a Boyd's black pepper laminate, waaaayyyyy better! A friend of mine wanted it more than I did, so away it went. No loss by me. I have an '03A3 that replaced it quickly.

Thanks, Tom
Originally Posted by jwall

The Boat Paddle stock Ruger to me is LIKE the Rem. Mountain Rifle. I always liked its looks and slim design. Can't say why I never bought one confused-----maybe too many others already ???

I'm STILL trying to talk myself out of getting one. smirk

Jerry


Well the Boat Paddle is ON the back burner......

I looked at a Harley Electra Glide - DECKED out - passenger seat-backrest-arm rest, etc. = 12 Boat Paddles

I have to check it out FIRST.

Jerry
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by jwall

The Boat Paddle stock Ruger to me is LIKE the Rem. Mountain Rifle. I always liked its looks and slim design. Can't say why I never bought one confused-----maybe too many others already ???

I'm STILL trying to talk myself out of getting one. smirk

Jerry


Well the Boat Paddle is ON the back burner......

I looked at a Harley Electra Glide - DECKED out - passenger seat-backrest-arm rest, etc. = 12 Boat Paddles

I have to check it out FIRST.

Jerry



Talked to a guy at a gas station a couple weeks ago. He had a beautiful Harley. Said he paid about $20K for it. Then he revealed he had about $30K in it at the time with the chrome and other upgrades he had added.

Might want to adjust your boat paddle math accordingly. smile
C H, I understand, however in my case right now...

both the boat paddle and Harley are USED. I'm going on asking prices today.

I'll be checking the Electra Glide out tomorrow or Tuesday. It's gorgeous, with lots of xtras. I'm a little skeptical but haven't HEARD it run or ridden it yet. I'll update when I know more.

Jerry

ps: forgot to say, PhotoPUKIT is holding my pix hostage. I have 2-3 pix on my phone today of H D and probably will open imgur account SOON !
I look forward to the pix.
C H

I've been busier than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. I've been gone from home more than I've been here.

My PLANS are to open an imgur account and load pix ASAP.

Jerry
Originally Posted by jwall
Are you saying, a man would have to be drunk ?? grin

Jerry



Helps me stomach them LOL

Just kidding you brother!
Originally Posted by jwall

Beauty is in the eye... wink

Jerry


posted by Fotis:

"of the beer holder LOL"



Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by jwall
Are you saying, a man would have to be drunk ?? grin

Jerry



Helps me stomach them LOL

Just kidding you brother!



YEP - understood from the start: laugh

No Muss, No Fuss, NO problem cool

Jerry
Originally Posted by Coyote_Hunter
I look forward to the pix.


C H - don't give up. I have some good angle pix BUT last week I was soooo busy and THEN I came down sick Friday. I'm better now but not completely over it. As soon as I have time & FEEL better I'll try again to get hooked up with a pic "SERVER".

BEWARE - Photo PUKIT - go elsewhere IF you want to relay your pix. SHAME on Photobucket SHAME!!!

Jerry
[Linked Image]

PHOTO PUKIT,- TEST

I posted this today, 7/20/17 , 5:58 AM CDT

How long does it take for P b to seize it ?

Obviously that is NOT an Electra Glide. I'm testing Ph b before entering other bike pix and then posting here.

Jerry
surprise, surprise, NOT !

Sorry, but this is what I expected. It's 12:45 pm now and the first time I've checked back in.

Here's the kind of ? service ? we can NOW expect from photo PUKEit.

I thot I'd give them ONE more chance - opportunity -

I'll NEVER give photo PUKE it a good recommendation TO anyone.


HOPEFULLY, I'll be able get SERVICE from imgur >>> very soon.

Jerry
Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by jwall

Beauty is in the eye... wink




Jerry


of the beer holder LOL


The girls all get prettier at closing time.
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