Would love to here why?

I keep reading about it being.....light in the loafers....funny every time I read a post or reference to it..



Heavy

It's not. The 270 is still the cartridge to which all others are compared.

As per usual, the first response on the thread is the correct one.

It goes back to early tongue-in-cheek Campfire razzle, humorous in intent and recognized as such by the majority of rational rifle loonies. (Now there's a contradiction in terms!) Taken as an affront by thin-skinned users not in on the joke.

It was "projection" on the part of some insecure 7x57 nutjobs.

An old joke, all in good humor.

Way before this became a thing, a friend of mine starting referring to his 270 Finnbear as a "girl's -06" because it kicked less but still killed deer and elk quite well with 160 Partitions.
Quit shooting elk with his old 308 Norma Mag...

It's pure sarcasm......

It's a joke, started before I joined the fire.

Of course, I cant let it go at that.... If you notice, just about every time a cartridge, caliber, new gun, old gun, etc. that is used for deer sized game is talked about, it is compared to a 270. So I guess you could say it is the standard, all round, only one needed deer, elk, antelope, etc. rifle. Even the Poobah shoots a 'baby' 270.

Ordered a 1:8" .277" bbl yesterday. I don't think it will turn me.

Dare I venture a guess "WHO" started that. Maybe he wore Leopard print thongs ??



Jerry

Don't know. I have two in the safe (one Weatherby and 1 Winchester), but they've not come out yet.

I see what you did there.

Better not tell Jack the .270's gay, he might field dress you on the spot.

Your projection is showing.

Just because they went metric and called it the 6.8, it doesn't make the gay go away.

It's kinda like when you were a kid and got into "cut down" fights with your buddies. It's the last resort as an insult.....

That's what she said.

It's not. Those who make that claim are repressing their own tendencies in that direction.

Thanks Steelhead, had not seen this one but read much of his OL stuff when I was a kid. Always thought of him as a great man...regardless of detractor. Seemed he popularized the .270 for many. Mac

As much as Jack wrote about the 270,he thought the 30-06 was better.I have to agree.
On his favorite cartridges...."The .30-06, the .270, the .375, and the .416. Now you're going to ask me 'In what order?' In that order."~Jack O'Connor~

It is so because the Grand Poobah has declared it. The reasons are irrelevant.

Mathman:



It was soooo obvious, someone had to do it, and I don't store mine in a closet.

Have a good one,

because it easier to say "gay" than queerer than a three dollar bill.

I have never owned a 270 but I did develop a load for a friend of mine.

Now my friend is a life long hunter and fisherman and has a fairly hot wife and two kids. After reading these threads for years I developed the opinion that he must be compensating or covering for his gayness. Now, I've never seen any other indication of gayness, but he shoots a 270, so isn't that enough? By reading these threads it did seemed so.

As I developed the loads for the 270 and shot the rifle I was watching for an extreme case of erectile dysfunction. Also I was guarding against the possibility of developing a compulsion to buy a pair of loafers. Neither thing actually happened. Nor did I have any inclination to put on my wife's bra and panties or use her lipstick.

So that makes me question the validity of these threads.

Shhh! No need to go messin' with the status quo. It'll just make it harder to find great rifles and cheap ammo.

Yup ............. Lots of 270s for sale here as well as 243s.

EXACTAMUNDO.

.270 shooters...










I rest my case....

I call my 6.8 SPC a .270 Short so I don't have to explain it. Gay it's not.

Ingwe, please stop posting pictures of you and deflave. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Huh, he is NOT from Ni'geria ? ?



This belongs in that commercial.

Jerry

What's Sikh for Big Pimpin?

I like my 270, but I wouldn't buy a new one......

The best answer, and very true. It's 93 years old, and still hasn't really been topped.

I don't really believe this business that some cartridges are inherently accurate but some are inherently gay, the 270 proves it. I mean not that there's anything wrong with that, live and let live and all. The 270 win can still be a productive member of society its just gay that's all

I think the 270 has unresolved parent issues. It's dad was always the best all-around, and people decided it was for shooting light bullets, and then it was labeled a "ladies' cartridge". But those who know the 270 and who ask it to do man's work know it can hold its own doing very manly tasks, like making Boddington eat his criticism.

^^ Truth be told right here. ^^

I like all four of mine.

I'll be rediscovering the .270 here in the next week or two - as well as discovering that I'm slowly but surely turning into my father.

I have owned a couple of them. They are a great game rifles for some people, but I do not believe that it is the be all end all G.O.A.T. The only thing that makes the cartridge gay is the shooter who cries that it kicks to hard!!!!!!!

Damn, I guess I’m gay. I have four!!

Scott, is it the one that Nathan was building you?

You must be one of those transgender lesbians.

Yes sir. A handful of campfire members fondled it at SCI last week - the mischievous bastids were sure to send me some taunting picts of them holding the thing.

Only thing I see bad about the .270 is when I was a kid, the ones that talked about it the most where the biggest windbags about their trucks, their house and even their jobs, So I assumed that the .270 was just hot air and carried a .30-06 as a 12-15 year old. Then moved up in caliber til I got it right finally when my pop turned his 7x57 over to my possession!!!!!!!!

Enough said!

The ultimate, consummate cartridge!

That 7x57 is coming on to your wife behind your back! It happened with Jack O'Connor too! And that's the reason why he became such an advocate of the 270. Yep, real history, right there.

No problemo! My wife shoots a .257 Bob.. ( which is a 7x57 necked down...) W.D.M. Bell and Jim Corbett both used the 7x57....no more needs to be said!

I have a bunch in the safe, but none in the closet. Do not ever remember any of them ever coming out of the closet.

I have always though of the 7mm-08 as the 270 short.





When I was growing up, it was guys blowing hot air about 7 Mags, I will never own a 7mag of any flavor!

Who would do such a dastardly deed.
That Nathan sure does nice work.

If that 270 Winchester is gay that must make the 270 Weatherby the gay lord....

I have the 270 WSM...don't know where that one fits in. Maybe it's just "short" of being gay.

Dan

Quote from CRS..... “I’ve always thought of the 7mm-08 as the 270 short”.


Nope. The 7mm-08 is the 280 short!

So you are saying that Jack had a case of penis envy?

It’s only gay If it’s a model 70. A .270 sucks action is definitely not gay.

Sucks is what all the good [bleep] is modeled after. If you know what I mean.

Even brand new .270 brass has loose primer pockets!

Nathan who?

SO, if I have 3- 270's and a 7x57 where does that leave me? ...confused? maybe I should get a special parking spot....

Bi-sexual but leaning more towards dudes

That's the short fat flaming gay dude in a leopard print thong....

Now that is funny!!!!! Just spit water all over my keyboard!

Where does the 270 Weatherby and 270WSM fit in the gay theme? I have those too.

I have the Weatherby, but not the 270 or the 270 WSM. Sold off the .270 Win for something that kicked a little harder. Cause I like it rough..

Yes, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder.... ⬆️⬆️⬆️

Those are flamboyantly gay, and the 270WSM is for the " Chubby Chasers"...


If the .270 Way is in a Mark V it should just be called " The Liberace"...

2 thumbs UP !


Jerry

Liberating thread here, guys coming out of the closet.

HMMM.

The Mark V Liberace.

So that makes the 6.8 SPC......??

tranny?

More likely he would, hire the guide to do it!

I love my "gay" rifle

Bi-curious?

I agree. I think that the conversation went something like this.....” Well that was a failure, let’s remember to “not” try that again”!

Yet the 6.5/06 is a wicked wildcat.

Good thing I’m a .280 addict!

Guess my old Savage flat back 270 would now be better classified as having CICS....caliber identity crisis syndrome...rather than being gay. It switches between 22-250 heavy barrel and 270 but can't decide.

Surprised it's never grown any legs....

Now if they would only come out with the 270 Creedmoor - now that would be a man’ s cartridge

PennDog

Hey, it's out...... called the 270 Ingwe !


Jerry

Ha I should have known!!
PennDog

Nature:nurture, always the question.

Bell used a 7mm mauser, but stated he prefered his .256 bore Mannlicher and found
his .303 and .318 a superior choice to both of those in some circumstances,

JIm Corbett, had someone not gifted him a 7x57 he might never have used one.
he killed the bulk of his cats with a .450-400 SxS.

Had a Winchester M70 in 270. I had it fixed by having Randell rebore it to 35 Whelen. Much better now.

gay Midget

Yes, I'm aware of all that, have read both of them extensively..you can always count on someone at the Campfire to attempt to correct you with minutiae that is not germane to the subject at hand....



but as stated, they both used the 7x57 and.......


.... neither one used a .270!!!

Simply wouldn't have been sporting to use a rifle that powerful, that's all. They probably figured the old slow 7x57 was way more sporting.

This might be ironic.

Laffin' I am, nice shot!

Of course Bell and Corbett did not use a .270,it did not make it's debut until 1925. Otherwise they would have used it on elephants and tigers.

Of course Bell and Corbett did not use a .270,it did not make it's debut until 1925. Otherwise they would have used it on elephants and tigers. grin
And neither would have ever been heard from again.

That would have been ample time for both Bell and Corbett...both were actively shooting into the 1940s....

But they chose good taste and decorum over flagrant flamboyance..

The hunting for which Bell was well known was done prior to the 270's introduction. Corbett's man-eater hunts stretched into 270 era, but the cartridge likely wasn't available in India during that time.

Yeah, Bell was shooting red deer with the .220 Swift by then....

Red with embarrassment! At having been shot with a “Swift”!

And that would have been due to poor shot placement.

Insecure, 7x57 nut jobs. That would be an oxymoron, would it not?
John

I was showing off a rifle project I just finished at my gun club. One of the old salt's came up and asked if it was a 270! I just realized he insulted me. It's game on.
MM879

I had “never” seen a .270 until 1988....it belonged to a woman!

Browsing through this thread reminds me of why kitties and doggies are so popular on Facebook.

Any elephants ever been whacked with a .270?

Pics? Published articles?

I'm starting to think some of you guys need a safe space when you talk about guns..

Yes, THEY are.

Jerry

Man you should have been around when a Close Friend & I traded jabs about rifles, not cartridges.
He liked # 1s with 26" blls and semi beavertail forends. ->-> I called them Cross Ties

I had a Wby Fiberguard ->-> he called Plastic.

He asked how long it took my deer to get used to smelling plastic.....

I said.... less time than his deer took to get used to CREOSOTE !



We had a BALL !
Sadly he passed in Dec. 2017


Jerry

A military sniper team armed with a plastic stocked .270....

A suitable .270 Win target.

Bells military Lee Enfield based .303 bolt rifles were described by him as being far from what he considered
good taste and decorum...Being the experienced pragmatic man he was, the .303 at times became the prime
weapon of choice in circumstances where his bespoke English and European rifles had failed him.

Disappointing for some 7x57 looneys I know,...but the 7 mm Mauser- M98 combo was not the 'be all-end all'
in Bells eyes... the sheer reliability of DWM ammunition was a major decisive factor that convinced him to use
7x57 as often as he did.

Dan,

is the rifle rest guy coming up for air?

I dunno. Never shot a .270.

It would be a lot less gay if it were to be necked up to 30 cal.

I don't know, I don't think I've EVER seen 30-03 ammo on the shelf.

Is that " O " ? it's got the ears !.... would seem fitting.

Jerry

Euro-gay

Digital dan...was reading capstick not long ago and someone did shoot an elephant with a 270. Took the bullet out of the case and pushed it in backwards for sort of a solid and shot it in the forehead. Sounded like an emergency, guy had to pull the bullet with his teeth while one of his people was being confronted by the jumbo.

That target can't be obama, it has balls.

Capstick wrote a lot from a bar stool......

Me and the orangutan are skeptical. A lot.

Lol he is quickly becoming one of my favorite authors. He does use sarcasm but this was supposedly a historically accurate story.

True That Is.


Jerry

Why is the sky blue?

I don’t ask; just accept...

Ken, How many shots?

I have been eyeing a Kimber Classic 270 for a while at a nearby gun and shooting emporium. I check on it occasionally. Want to make sure nobody is putting any marks on it. Today I put it on lay away. Gay or not,it's going to be living here soon. I heard a rumor Kimber was dropping the Classic,and I didn't have one yet. If it's half the rifle my Classic Select is,Ill be tickled. 270 or not.

Just one.

I always heard that people who didn't own a 270 were gay.

That makes sense. If you aren't with the majority........ you are ODD ->->-> that's PC for lgbtq


Jerry

Same thing I realized about Hemingway when trying to read anything but The Old Man and the Sea....

My friend Roy calls bullchips on that. You don't wanna pizz him off.

Capstick's .270 and elephant story was taken directly from an old story in True Magazine.

Ok, then maybe he was repeating the story to back up his own, I don't recall the details of how he used it...it was not a first person story of his

By “gay”,you meant “happy” ....correct! Happy you didn’t make a bad choice!

The term started way back. Jack and Elmer were at a gun writer's convention. They both had been hitting the sauce at the dinner, and the stories were getting pretty tall. Finally Elmer could not take Jacks constant rambling about the 270 any longer. Elmer stood up and yelled at Jack, take that stupid little hat you wear and that gay rifle you always use and get the *!@K out of here. Elmer was the first to believe that the 270 is gay.

Don’t know if that’s true or not....but I’m good with that! Memtb

Ken, is that the featherweight higrade model?

Beautiful rifle.

And you own and are proud of this story? The man who is supposed to have acted that way is an idol for many here? I hope the story isn't true, and I doubt it, but if it is, Elmer's lucky he wasn't spitting out teeth at some point from getting bashed in the mouth with the butt of a gay rifle by a man with a stupid little hat.

Storys true, I heard it on the internet.

Perhaps a pirated excerpt from Keith's still-unpublished book, titled, "Hell, I Was An Ass Hole!".

He would’ve probable hired the guide to do it for him!

Ken, sorry, I forgot my manners .... That is a beautiful rifle! IMO, the Win. Featherweights....were the prettiest bolt guns ever manufactured !

I gotta remember “I heard it on the internet, it’s got to be true”. Will spring that on wifey at perfect opportunity!

Thanks Jack and Memtb.

Here is your answer Jack.

That's not the way I heard it, that claim belongs to the 30-06.

+1

And I never owned on until a few years ago.....but I’m plenty old enough enough to know “what set the standard”!

And I would have loved to be on the one next to him.

..azzholes being the preferred target of gayz.




excerpt quote]

As I Remember Capstick
By Tink Nathan

"Peter told me of his amazing life....

In one of his books, Peter wrote that he had weekly letters from young Americans who aspired to become a
professional hunter in Africa. Peter said in print an American would have a better chance of winning the Victoria Cross
than to become a professional hunter in Africa....
...Peter was a giant of a man, with a heart as big as Africa, yet strong and straight as a new arrow. With out a doubt,
Peter was one of the finest, if not the finest writer of our age. A man who turned his back on fortune, the family Hathaway
shirt business, and went of into the jungles of Viet Nam to fight in freedoms name as a green beret officer,
an American special forces soldier, and to Africa to fulfill a childs dream. Peter, you did it all so bloody well too.
You never got a client killed, you never got tossed in jail and you never stepped on a mamba. You lived your life,
every seconds worth to THE MAX, and you were a gentleman the whole time. You were a mans man, a man that
women lionized, and you did America proud. You showed Africa just what could do when the chips were down.."


...

Question?











If a 270 is gay!

Fan tum tastic Gee.

Would you tell me about the rifle in the top pic?
I really like its looks.


Jerry

Does that male the 270 WSM









Uber-Gay?








Quien Sabe?


GWB

That was a Remington 700 "C" Grade from their custom shop. One of the few I regret selling. Bought it cheap and sold it for filthy lucre during a period of financial embarrassment.

Beautiful wood and one of the best triggers orf all the Remingtons I've owned.

ya!

GWB

BTW, that was a "two-fer at +/- 170 yds with factory 140 gr. Cor-Lokts IIRC.

Thnx Gee

Good lookin. ! !

JRS said , ‘’ little misses I’ve known ‘’. I bet all us loony’s have them regretters.

Jerry

So, I had a .270 when I was a Senior in High School.

I promptly sold it and joined the Marines.

Was I just compensating?

Sheesh...then in Boot Camp I had an M-16 locked onto the foot of my bunk. If the .270 is gay, the 5.56 is a Eunuch.

Yes it do...yo sabe....

Or .284

B O O M , P O W , T H U N D E R !

Being Down the R A I N ! !

I wish I'd thot of that !!!


Jerry

I noticed that gun too and it was a beauty, too bad you had to send it down the road.

bet youd rather have that m-16 in a fire fight ...

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2017/12/6/opinion-why-i-hate-the-270/
Could be titled "Why hate Bryce Towsley"
Shot a deer on the point of the shoulder. Didn't recover it. Where is the proof it was hit on the point of the shoulder? This guy really needs to find a new hobby.

For all those that think the 270 is gay ..........

It's obvious the 270 fans can't spell, I wonder if they can count to potato...........

French fry,mashed,chip

Yep - that’s queer !

Jerry

Sometimes one is all you need. But since it's my favorite cartridge, one is not enough. I will admit, however, that thinking back over the last dozen big-game animals taken, only two have fallen to the 270 Win. Seems I've shifted to short actions subconsciously, with the 260Rem and 308 taking over half the dozen. Platform is the most likely reason, since I tend to favor lighter stuff these days.

Not sure what that may suggest...

Several women on my lease hunt with 270’s. They think this 270 gay cshit is funny.

Made a shot once at about 1150 yards with the 7.62x51. Anyone done that with a .270?

Well, I'm waiting.

Yes —- I’ve shot at least 1151 yds. I hit the EARTH
.

Jerry

...probably gonna wait a while. But, in the meantime, my compliments on your choice for a quote source. Kinda tough to top Ambrose and the Devil's Dictionary, too.

Why would it matter?

Well I thank you for the responses, I was growing concerned that my words had scared people off this fundamentally important discussion.

FLNative, thanks. I vacillate between Bierce and Twain. They were both very insightful gentlemen burdened with a sharp wit.

Jwall, I hit more than Earth. Them phuocers were shooting at me and my buddies; a rather costly mistake if I may say so. Widows and orphans may have been born as a result, but I declined to research background of the departed after the fact. In fairness I must say I was belt fed and toting 6 barrels. OTOH, I did not use any sighting device. Hoses don't require such oddities.

Southtexas, it matters 'cause the .270 never showed up to fight for the stars 'n bars, apple pie and all that. All those years and it never showed. Hell, there were pigs over there too! If'n it had tried to abscond with my wench(s) in my absence I would have sorta understood, but it didn't even do that. The only thing I can conclude; it's gay as gay can be. Flamin' gay even.

xin loi

How about 228 yards,would that count DD?

I dunno. We talkin' about a .270 and jacks or makin' a cactus blossom wilt with a well aimed fart?

The cactus blossom wilt at 228 yards.

That is awesome! I am humble in your presence!

I'd rather hunt Mountain Lions with a pack of Pomeranian's.

I learned from the best!

Dude, don't ferget to sell tickets. -Rollin' here-

The 270 is a good cartridge, but nothing extraordinary compared to others similar in speed/diameter/weight. It's hardly versatile as it comes in only 2 weight options. Its simply popular because it got promoted by a celeb, Jack doesn't hunt anymore and neither does Michael Jordan play basketball but both still have a huge fan base. Nike Jordan shoes or 270 Win.... Same marketing principles.

If Jack chose the 280, it would have been what the 270 is today...he should have... if Jack chose the 300 Sherwood, it would have been the ducks nuts... doesnt matter... It's popular way beyond it's worth ... It's a spoilt brat getting a promotion in a company because of its director father. Use and enjoy .... Just don't tell your kids they wear Air Jordans because of Michael... And understand that untill Jack's generation passes on... There will be threads like these.

ummm, What are 130, 140, 150 160 AND 170 gr.?

These are not the ONLY bullet weights available. uh 110 - oh yeah.

ALL this info is in books.


Jerry

ps: This quote from another fire member.

[/b]"I have used the 110 TTSX on wildebeest and kudu. Works just like the 130 TTSX. I loaded to about 3300. No reason to have a 25-06."[b]

The haters are going to hate. I'd be willing to be that they've never owned a 270. Just another case of someone who once got a BB gun for Christmas, and now is an expert on firearms.

270’s kill as well as 7 mags, 264’s or any other deer size cartridge.

You all are hurting my feelings. I need a safe room, so you Republicans can’t hurt me anymore!!

Better stay in UR closet!

I'm an independent but I sure as XXXX ain't a libtard democrap !

Jerry

All this mean talk makes me sad. Hurting peoples feelings over life decisions we they make just isn't fair. Just because you all don't like the same things some other people like doesn't make it right to label or poke fun does it? I think we all need to be just a little more global in our understanding and a lot less dogmatic. Don't you think? I mean, I have a .270 and I'm not really gay.

Dude, work in your sense of humor.

And try black ink next time. A .270 goes with your text colors like a sunset rainbow.

Well, it is an old school red pad Ruger with a basic Burris non-twisty scope so I guess that takes a little of the lavender out.

-laffin'-

I've done about 2000+..but in fairness, it was a 25mm chain gun with HE ammo at some dug ins....

We're talking hunting rifles here though...

And 85, 95 and 180. I have a load with the 110 TTSX going 3500 fps.

Braggart.

I'm jealous.

Thnx M1. I haven't looked recently. For what I do the 130 or 150 does fine.
I'm glad to know that.

Jerry

Jerry

Love the 270

Has the question of why is the 270 gay been answered yet? I always considered it more trans. They took a manly cartridge in the 30-06 and gave it a pussy.

I've mostly used 130s and haven't shot anything with the 110 load yet but I'm expecting it to be pretty damn good.

Well......I thot I liked you ? ?

You are BANNED from the 'fire'.

Jerry

The 110 mono interests me but I'm not yet convinced to try them. I have NO doubt they work well from ALL reports here.
I'd have to explore what powders used are giving the best vel/accuracy.
I'm well stocked on bullets & powder for what I use.... so there's part of the consideration.

I am NOT sure that I would gain anything by switching - bullets & powder ? ?

Jerry

My gay gun shoots the 110TTSX very well with IMR4350. Kills animules, too

If I offered an insincere apology would it help?

Have you ever heard of the term "die laughing?"

The 110gr Barnes in the 270 is a killer diller. One of the most accurate loads I've ever shot.

Well, some of them did seem to have a smirk on their face when I got to them.

Does that answer your question ?


Jerry

I like the 270, especially when I see it being carried by a hot look’n girl,

Your sister shoots a .270?

I think you get one of those pink pussy hats when you buy one as an extra incentive and hunter safety.

Yeah, but she’s not hot...

4350?

Yes sir

Ammo is Cheap, and Abundantly Available. As are Rifles. Even Lefty's

Just not Twisted Tight Enough to Go Long

Don't Worry Be Happy.

Fair enough.... But you need a change in twist rate for the heavy ones.... And when did all that versatility come about? Only recently... Before then it was all Jack's influence ... not to mention that it's an odd diameter that would have probably gone down the road without Jack

Some find Richard Simmons manly too.

Remember the Village People, those fudge packers from the 70s that sang YMCA and all those gay songs? 270 shooters each and every one of m. Not saying all 270 shooters are gay necessarily but the 270 cartridge is show tunes lovin condo decorator flaming friggin gay.

Tink must have been drinking his 69 Buck Lure when he wrote that pile.