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I've been in a Mannlicher stocked mood as of late and have a line on a CZ that I may be grabbing for the right price. Any cons to owning one!???

Please post pics and stories of yours if you have one.
Just my observation. I have a CZ, 455-FS and I like it. It's assuredly accurate. My beef with them is compared to a real Mannlicher/Schoenauer the stocks are pretty clubby....too thick in the forearm. They could lose at least 1/8 inch of wood.
Originally Posted by sharps4590
Just my observation. I have a CZ, 455-FS and I like it. It's assuredly accurate. My beef with them is compared to a real Mannlicher/Schoenauer the stocks are pretty clubby....too thick in the forearm. They could lose at least 1/8 inch of wood.


This. A common failing of full-stocked rifles that a lot of folks just don't understand, and why most commercial full-stocks look like a 2x4 and feel like one in the hand. And how did full-stocked rifles all come to be known as "Mannlichers" in the dim dark past anyway? A lot of Mannlichers were made with half-stocks too. What did they call them before Steyr put their first one on a Mannlicher-Schoenauer?
As was stated they are kind of portly but, are accurate shooters. Even the later Steyr Mannlicher stock wasn't done right and felt clubby. Nothing feels better than the earlier Mannlichers with the exception of the Husqvarna 456.

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The only cons I have to owning this little Sako Riihimaki in 222 Rem is that the funds required to acquire it are now out of the "available pot" and the rifle is not considered "trade goods." It is considered a keeper!


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Oberndorf type S, 7x57 on Standard length single square bridge 98 action.
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Husqvarna 456 in .30-06.

I'm currently stocking a Husqvarna 1600 series 9,3x62 Mannlicher style. Can't wait for that one to be completed.
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Husqvarna 456 in .30-06.

I'm currently stocking a Husqvarna 1600 series 9,3x62 Mannlicher style. Can't wait for that one to be completed.


It should remind you that wasn't a dud primer every time you pull the trigger. laugh Please post pics when finished.
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I'm currently stocking a Husqvarna 1600 series 9,3x62 Mannlicher style. Can't wait for that one to be completed.


It should remind you that wasn't a dud primer every time you pull the trigger. laugh Please post pics when finished.


Yeah, it will be VERY light weight. For once, I may install a recoil pad by choice! I'll definitely post pics.
Just picked this up today! 1956 manufacture in 257 Roberts, how cool is that!

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My Sako 591 in 22-250

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My Blaser K95 Stutzen. 2 barrels, 243 Win and 308 Win.
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550FS in 9.3x62 .... love it
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The only cons I have to owning this little Sako Riihimaki in 222 Rem is that the funds required to acquire it are now out of the "available pot" and the rifle is not considered "trade goods." It is considered a keeper!


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I can see how a fella might become attached to this one. I don't have a single "magic" rifle that can suspend itself but I have something else to look for now!
Take care,
Rick
The top rifle is my dad's Husqvarna 458 in .308 Win, which he bought nearly new in the early 60's. It's the only deer rifle I ever saw him hunt with. Several years ago he gave it to me, as he can no longer get out into the woods very easily. It is wonderfully balanced and weighs 8 lbs. It's very accurate, too, shooting around MOA with several factory loads. I'm going to start shooting some of my hand loads in it this spring to see what it will do. The original nose cap, which went all the way to the end of the barrel, was lost several years ago, and the only replacement I've been able to find is the stainless one now on it.

I actually just got the CZ 550 FS 30-06 last night. Although used, it is in perfect condition and included the Leupold VX-1 2-7X and Talley QD rings. It weighs 8.5 lbs., but then again it is a long action and has all steel bottom metal, whereas the Husky is all alloy bottom metal. Looking forward to shooting this one soon, too.


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As can be seen in this photo, the Husqvarna is a bit slimmer through the fore end, measuring .89" across the wood at the point closest to the nose cap, whereas the CZ is 1.00" The Husqvarna's stock is 1.62" wide just forward of the receiver, whereas the CZ is 1.87".


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While the stock dimension is very noticeable when viewing, it is even more so when handling. That is why I prefer my Husqvarna 456 to all others.
My Ruger 77 International in 250 savage is very slim in the forearm. Love that gun
Originally Posted by RickinTN
Originally Posted by Mathsr
The only cons I have to owning this little Sako Riihimaki in 222 Rem is that the funds required to acquire it are now out of the "available pot" and the rifle is not considered "trade goods." It is considered a keeper!


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I can see how a fella might become attached to this one. I don't have a single "magic" rifle that can suspend itself but I have something else to look for now!
Take care,
Rick


Rick, is isn't one of those rifles that will shoot minute of angle every time, but it does hit what you aim at. It is also one that I seem to have with me when I need it, which is pretty magic to me... Hope you find yours before too long.

Harry
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Originally Posted by DrDeath
I've been in a Mannlicher stocked mood as of late and have a line on a CZ that I may be grabbing for the right price. Any cons to owning one!???

Please post pics and stories of yours if you have one.


The stock ergs of the CZ 550 FS cause them to have the handling qualities of a 6' cedar fence post. If you want a sweet handling mannlicher stocked rifle find a Husqvarna. IMO, a mannlicher stocked rifle is a stalking rifle that has great balance and points like an upland bird shotgun.
This is a Husqvarna in 243. It handles and shoots as good as it looks.

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Hard to get tired of looking at full stocked rifles.

This one is still missing a barreled action. 98 mauser, have action...project in progress...:)

Very light 24oz. The barrel channel measures 1/2" at the muzzle

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I put this one in the fence post thread but, heck here it is again. Absolutely the smoothest action I've encountered! Now that load development has been completed the 3-9 will be replaced with a 1.5-5 Leupold or maybe a 2 3/4 or 3x.

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I have to admit I've never understood the logic of a mannlicher stock..., extra wood, extra weight, short barrels, nobody puts their hand way out there anyway, do they? ..but they still look cool!
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I have to admit I've never understood the logic of a mannlicher stock..., extra wood, extra weight, short barrels, nobody puts their hand way out there anyway, do they? ..but they still look cool!


Probably an outgrowth of military cavalry carbines that originated in Austria/Switzerland to use as a climbing aid or walking stick for mountain hunting in steep terrain.
Originally Posted by JeffG
I have to admit I've never understood the logic of a mannlicher stock..., extra wood, extra weight, short barrels, nobody puts their hand way out there anyway, do they? ..but they still look cool!

A lot of muzzleloaders had full length stocks so maybe a continuation of tradition. My fascination with them came from long ago when, as a kid, I watched a TV series called "Ramar of the Jungle". I saw my first "stutzen" then and the seed was planted. It was many years before I was able to get one.
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Got a couple of these too, but probably don't count. grin

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JeffG,

I always thought that too until I started handling/shooting Steyr’s and while they do have extra wood they are much lighter than most wood stocked rifles - especially American ones (never did understand why the major companies didn’t remove more wood to make the stocks handle better?! The Ruger mannlicher stock rifles are a step in the right direction but could still stand to lose some significant wood.

Of course just my opinion but I like the styling of a well made mannlicher and 260Remguy probably has the reasoning right - when hunters actually walked to hunt instead of resting on there vehicle or other rest and shooting 1/2 mile+

PennDog
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I'm a sucker for full stocked rifles!
This is my 1952 Mannlicher in 257 Roberts. This one has put a bunch of deer in the freezer and is destined for my Grandson to enjoy.


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My son with one of the bears he has taken with my old .308 Sako.

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The vintage rifles certainly appear more svelte to my eye.

Am not a 99 fan but the 99 above is a keeper...have never seen a full stock 99 in the flesh.
Mighty fine stuff guys!

ya!


GWB
The only full stock rifle I ever saw that I really liked was about 1953. Friend of mystep dad's came over with it Full stock Mannlicher in 6.5x52. Split bridge and the smoothest action I have even seen. Wish I could afford one! Forgot, butter knife bolt handle and double set trigger's!
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Merkel K3, 308 Win and a small sow from the recent 24hourCampfire hog hunt.


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Steyr Mannlicher, Mannlicher Classic, 6.5 x 55 SE, and "Da Claw".


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Sako Bavarian Carbine, 30-06 Springfield

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Steyr Classic Mannlicher, 270 Win.

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Custom Sako Mannlicher by IDT Custom, 7mm-08


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Custom Mauser 98 by Wayne Barnett, 35 Whelen

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GWB
Originally Posted by DonFischer
The only full stock rifle I ever saw that I really liked was about 1953. Friend of mystep dad's came over with it Full stock Mannlicher in 6.5x52. Split bridge and the smoothest action I have even seen. Wish I could afford one! Forgot, butter knife bolt handle and double set trigger's!



Here is a manlicher stocked mauser ninety eight in 35 whelen, double set trigger. It was smithed by a local guy by the name of Wayne Barnett. I believe it was done in the seventies.

ya!
GWB


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Very impressive collection GW....
What make and model slings do you guys run on your Mannlichers? I picked up one of Lipsey's Ruger Hawkeyes in .260 Rem a few weeks ago. Thinking I'm going to hunt this one.
My 2

Both Mausers on 98 actions.
8X57. This one has been used by me and my wife both to kill deer elk and antelope.
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And my 9.3X57 I just finished up last year. Hope to fill the freezer with lots of goodies using this too.
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My one and only, but when I saw it I had to have it.
1896 Springfield Krag, I don't know who did the work but I love it!
Rice peep sight was something I added later, it use to have a buckhorn sight on the small rib that was added to the barrel.
Barrel was cut down to 20" total length is 40".

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CZ 550 FS 7x57. I'd never seen one with gray metal finish and butter knife bolt handle. Trigger is a Timney, sits back in the trigger guard more than factory single set trigger. I like Timney better.

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Lots of nice rifles for certain!! Purely a matter of taste but I think stutzen stocked rifles need that Schnabel about midway toward the muzzle. Kinda breaks up that looooonng straight line and offers a parting point to thin the stock. Steve, I am a pure "D" sucker for side panels, nice.

I have yet to decide on a picture host so can't post my two M/S rifles. Not a lot to see as one is a 1903 and the other a 1908 and there's plenty of pictures of like rifles. The 1903 has claw bases but the 1908 is totally unaltered....thank God!!!

Bill, on my Mannlicher/Schoenauer's I have Levy's slings. They still offer them for 3/4 swivels which original M/S rifles were equipped with. I assume your Ruger has 1 inch swivels and Levy's offers a pretty nice line of them as well.
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I traded for this rifle. I installed a Timney trigger and I relieved the barrel channel and used an O-ring just behind the front sight base. It's not a target rifle but is plenty accurate.



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Can't see your rifle pic Dave. What is it?
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My pawn shop full stock.
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Need bigger pics and more info.....it looks like a real beauty!
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Need bigger pics and more info.....it looks like a real beauty!


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I LIKE IT! What a cool rifle. The duffle cut looks neat and stable....how is it connected? How does the rifle shhot?

The scope mounts are exactly the same as on my rifle. I assume the scope isn't around any more, but it is possible to have rings made to fit them. I spoke with a guy at the Hoover, AL, gun show this past weekend that has made them before and actually looked at a rifle on his table that had a set. Didn't ask his price to make them, but I suspect it ain't cheap!
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I LIKE IT! What a cool rifle. The duffle cut looks neat and stable....how is it connected? How does the rifle shhot?

The scope mounts are exactly the same as on my rifle. I assume the scope isn't around any more, but it is possible to have rings made to fit them. I spoke with a guy at the Hoover, AL, gun show this past weekend that has made them before and actually looked at a rifle on his table that had a set. Didn't ask his price to make them, but I suspect it ain't cheap!




Just remember the golden rule..."we haggle and penny-pinch for things we actually need and the sky is the limit for what we desperately want".
Do Manners or McMillan make a full length stock.
I have a Savage stainless lightweight I would like to put in one. wink

Just trollin' guys,
There are a bunch of beautiful rifles in this thread.


P.S. I like stainless and nice wood, somone should try a full stock stainless gun.



Probably would be a niche market, within a niche market.
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Nice! What caliber?
i have a ruger 77 rsi mk2 308. i love the way it looks and handles. i think ruger got it right. unfortunately i don't like how it shoots. first shot is dead on. from then on it scatters them pretty bad over about a 3" group. i know there is some work that can be done on the fore end cap and barrel channel but just haven't mucked with it. any suggestions?
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Do Manners or McMillan make a full length stock.
I have a Savage stainless lightweight I would like to put in one. wink

Just trollin' guys,
There are a bunch of beautiful rifles in this thread.


P.S. I like stainless and nice wood, somone should try a full stock stainless gun.



Probably would be a niche market, within a niche market.


I don't recall having ever seen a mannlicher style synthetic stock.

Richards Micro-Fit and Wenig are the only companies currently offering after-market mannlicher style stocks and they are at opposite ends of the cost scale.

The small, non-cataloged, runs of Ruger RSIs that Lipsey's contracts for and the Remington Custom Shop's 7MS are the only factory built stainless rifles with mannlicher style stocks that I know of, other than the Ruger 10/22s that have been regularly offered over the past 20+/- years.
I have had good success by installing a soft neoprene O-ring between the stock and the barrel about 1/3 back from end of the stock. The soft neoprene conforms to the contour interface between the barrel and the stock, providing support and absorbing barrel flex. This works about 90% of the time. It doesn't work as well with rubber O-rings, as they are less pliable than neoprene.
Nice Mannlicher Stocked rifles!
I have my Lipsey's Ruger RSI S.S. 30-06 My Wife
bought me for X-mas a few years ago that
I sent to Hired Gun here for Cerakote and Micro-Slick
My favorite Tree Stand Shooting House rifle
for L.A.(Lower Alabama)
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Nice! What caliber?



6.5 MS

I need to get it out and shoot it .

There is a little pin holding the stock together.

Edit: I didn’t know what it was and the brain trust here at the fire here educated me .
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Just shot my Ruger RSI today.
This thread was perhaps the ultimate rifle porn.
Youper,

I agree! My absolute favorite stock configuration for the last 48 years! Terry
My biggest thing is this should be an Iron sighted only rifle. No scope. I'm ok with a peep sight.
My fully custom Ruger No.1 in the International pattern.

6.5x47 Lapua, Kahles 2-7 and nice mineralised English Walnut fitted with steel buttplate and gripcap.

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I also have a Husky in 30/06 and a mannlicher length piece of Black Walnut Fiddleback that I'm working on in slow time.

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Nicely done, Adam

Fiddleback looks the best on a full-stock, to me
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GWB
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CZ 550 FS, 308 Win.


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Top: Merkel k3 Jagd Stutzen 308 Win.


Bottom, Merkel K1 Jagd Stutzen, 7mm-08 Rem

ya!


GWB
Will this one work?

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Will this one work?

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It works
Almost need a wide angle lens for that rascal.
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Almost need a wide angle lens for that rascal.

Yes, it is rather difficult in the brush. laugh
Husqvarna 456 in 30-06

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It's the rifle I have listed in classifieds.

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I admit a fondness for Mannlicher stocks, and I have two. One is on a tang-safety blued/walnut Ruger M77 RSI in 250 Savage. Like one of the other rifles described here, it puts the first bullet pretty much exactly where the crosshairs are and the rest kind of go wild in a 2" group. It has a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5 on it. Don't know if the group size matters; so far, my son or I just fire one shot and something dies.

The other is on a Remington Custom Shop Model 7 in a laminated brown stock. It's a 7mm-08 with a 20" barrel and shoots several factory loads into the same 1.5" group interchangeably. If I stick with one load, it'll stay under an inch. It wears a Leupold VX3 2.5-8 with the B&C reticle. Glue weighs more than wood, so the laminated stock is heavy for its size. It is pretty slender in the fore-end and also in the pistol grip, so it's not overly heavy. One of these days I intend to get out and see what it does to critters!
Some really great rifles on this post, so I thought I'd add mine.
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GWB
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Pre-WWII Oberndorf action, Mauser Banner under the front scope ring. It was a butchered sporter when I bought it from a pawn shop in Phoenix, AZ back in 1983.

Now it's a 7x57. AA French Walnut stock.

Dan
Originally Posted by tomk
Hard to get tired of looking at full stocked rifles.

This one is still missing a barreled action. 98 mauser, have action...project in progress...:)

Very light 24oz. The barrel channel measures 1/2" at the muzzle

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What became of this stock?

Asking for a friend. smile
Interarms Mark X in 270Win

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Husqvarna 458 (Monte Carlo stock with cheek piece) in .243Win

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I traded for this Ruger MKII 243 and later sold it.
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I never had one before, but being a carbine kind of a guy I always liked the looks of a Mannlicher. Then I decided that I "needed" a Ruger 77/22 and went looking on the gun sites. I happened upon a nib Ruger 77/22 RSI walnut / stainless and it came home to my house. I never knew that they made such a thing and it was probably a special run. It is still a work in progress for a scope and low rings, but I kind of like it so far.
Sakoluvr is that an L579? Looks good whatever it is. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
Affirmative. Those Bofor stamped .308's are very difficult to find. I have had this one for 23 years.

My wife, son, daughter and myself has taken a lot of game with it.

Thanks
.358 Win. M-S

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Here is my Mauser Type M, with embellishments evidently by Griffin & Howe, caliber .30-'06 and marked "Made in Germany":

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In my opinion, Mauser really knew how to make a full stocked rifle without making it look clubby. The proportions on the front part of the stock are perfect. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer pattern is followed even to the horseshoe type sling attachment.
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styer model m in 30.06 should shoot it more i just don't...going to move it down the road to fund some gear for the kids.
I also have a CZ mannlicher in 22 hornet the thing is a bunch of fun.
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Here is my Mauser Type M, with embellishments evidently by Griffin & Howe, caliber .30-'06 and marked "Made in Germany":

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In my opinion, Mauser really knew how to make a full stocked rifle without making it look clubby. The proportions on the front part of the stock are perfect. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer pattern is followed even to the horseshoe type sling attachment.

Nice rifle!

You're right ..... A lot of gunmakers get the forend wrong. They usually look clubby and triangular. The Rugers are too short.


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Just remember the golden rule..."we haggle and penny-pinch for things we actually need and the sky is the limit for what we desperately want".
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Those are words of wisdom. Good to see you back.
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Here is my Mauser Type M, with embellishments evidently by Griffin & Howe, caliber .30-'06 and marked "Made in Germany":

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In my opinion, Mauser really knew how to make a full stocked rifle without making it look clubby. The proportions on the front part of the stock are perfect. The Mannlicher-Schoenauer pattern is followed even to the horseshoe type sling attachment.


Husqvarna is near perfection IMHO with their 456:

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My son again, this time with my 6.5x54 M-S

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My son again, this time with my 6.5x54 M-S

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Guess thats my holy grail rifle. I found one in 7x57.
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I'll play in this necro-thread. grin

Mauser 96, 6.5x55. Ed Lapour safety, NEGC Sights, stock by Wenigs and a bunch of other really great work by Mark Penrod (who took far better pictures of it than I can)


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I've always loved Mannlicher stocks. Only one I currently own is a Winchester Model 70 .30-06. The stock came with it from the factory, but I don't think it is a Winchester product. Fajen, maybe? Little short gun "kicks" more than my .300 mag Model 70, but it is very accurate. A real pleasure to carry and shoot, and I like the looks a lot! May try to puzzle out the photo current protocol and pot a pic.

Mike Holmes


Win M70, .30-06

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Here is the holy grail. An original Mannlicher Schoenauer Model 1903 with factory set trigger and 3 folding leaves on the rear sight chambered in 6.5x54MS.

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Bow down Mortals!
Im really jealous. I've really wanted one for a long time in 358.
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Im really jealous. I've really wanted one for a long time in 358.


I have never seen another .358 win M-S for sale before or after I got mine. There was a time when I was constantly looking at M-S's. I am getting to old to care about stuff anymore.


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I couldn't agree with you more! I do like the Montecarlo stock for scope use on the 458 though. There's nothing I would change about this one!
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This is one of my favorite threads of all time. Be Well, Rustyzipper.
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This is one of my favorite threads of all time. Be Well, Rustyzipper.


you are a good man if you like the full stock.
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Harry- it's understandable why you prefer the 458 for use with scope. Looks like you swept bolt handle forward a bit...did you make any other changes like trigger? Really like your full-stock rifles.
Leadminer, I think the bolt handle has a shadow on it that makes it look that way. It hasn't been changed. You can't see it in the picture of my rifle, but it has a stock that is loaded with fiddle back figure. I was thinking about having the barrel replaced when I bought the rifle. I wanted to change the caliber to 7mm08, but I made the mistake of shooting it first and wouldn't think of changing it from its 243 Winchester configuration now. It has become one of my favorite rifles.
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