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Posted By: Fotis LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
As promised.....This is the recovered bullet from my elk hunt 2 weeks ago. It is a 175 gr 308 cal LRX that started off at 3425 fps from my WBY KCR 30-378. The impact was at 355 yards and took out both shoulders and lungs.

Bullet weighs in at 114.4 gr and diameter of .446" at the widest.

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Posted By: Brad Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
It’s pretty wild how white those antlers are... congrats!
Posted By: bwinters Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
That is a nice bull!
Posted By: Fotis Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Originally Posted by Brad
It’s pretty wild how white those antlers are... congrats!



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Posted By: Judman Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Nice bull fotis.... boolit ain’t perty but it worked
Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Wow...have never seen a Barnes rivet like that. I guess the LRX are truly softer. And that's quite a bull, Fotis! Well done! And those have to be the lightest antlers I've ever seen on a harvested bull!
Posted By: KenMi Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Path of destruction must have been incredible. I shot a few deer with that same bullet out of a 300 Win. Mag at 3150 fps. Never found a bullet but they looked like a buzzsaw went to work inside them.
Posted By: Fotis Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Thanks, guys......

Remember I nailed the second bull at 385 yards. He was hit behind near shoulder and out the rear of far ribs. Nice exit hole! These are "softer" bullets


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Posted By: Bella1 Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Great job my friend, thanks for the report
Posted By: WAM Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Great job on the elk! Congrats all around. Remind me to stick with TTSX and fuggedabout the LRX. How can the LRX be softer than TTSX if the TTSX is made from pure copper? Thinner give? Larger cavity? Combination of the two? Happy Trails
Posted By: Fotis Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Originally Posted by WAM
Great job on the elk! Congrats all around. Remind me to stick with TTSX and fuggedabout the LRX. How can the LRX be softer than TTSX if the TTSX is made from pure copper? Thinner give? Larger cavity? Combination of the two? Happy Trails



If I could give you an intelligent accurate answer to that, I would. My main fear with Barnes has always been lack of expansion. Never worried about lack of penetration. The fact that the petals sheared off does not bother me at all.
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Nicely done.
Some good eats for sure.
Posted By: HuntnShoot Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Copper can be annealed to become softer. Could be that Barnes anneals those bullets after final shaping, but before adding the tip.
Posted By: Fotis Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
https://www.facebook.com/groups/226...42074212483082&notif_t=group_comment

Go above to my page and see the post by Tony Meiir


180 TTSX 300 RUM ......at 640 yards recovery from elk
Posted By: Bwana_1 Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Great bull, he's been sun bathing smile
Posted By: Justahunter Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
In my opinion, that is a great looking recovered bullet. Way better than one that didn’t expand. It doesn’t bother me the bullet lost its petals.

Thanks for sharing!

Todd
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Well done Fotis and congratulations.
Posted By: beretzs Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Great report. Thanks Fotis! Great bull too!
Posted By: WAM Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by WAM
Great job on the elk! Congrats all around. Remind me to stick with TTSX and fuggedabout the LRX. How can the LRX be softer than TTSX if the TTSX is made from pure copper? Thinner give? Larger cavity? Combination of the two? Happy Trails



If I could give you an intelligent accurate answer to that, I would. My main fear with Barnes has always been lack of expansion. Never worried about lack of penetration. The fact that the petals sheared off does not bother me at all.


With an elk on the ground, performance is optimum! My results have been similar to Tony’s. 168 TTSX launched at 3,296 fps, .300 Wby. Happy Trails
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Posted By: LowerRiver Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
I just recovered a regular old 165gr TSX from my bull that looks identical to that. 300WSM from about 55 yards. 3130 at the muzzle. Basically shed all the petals but the base remained and did a great job as far as I’m concerned. I love Barnes bullets. Never had a failure.

Great bull btw. Obviously spends most his life in open country with as white as those antlers are.
Posted By: 7mmMato Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
I killed a Moose with a 127 LRX out of a 6.5-06 50 yards bull was facing me I shot it under the right eye. Bullet traveled down the neck thru the spine and we found it against the hide by the left shoulder. I had lost all it petals. Two we found in the neck were it went thru the spine the other traveled down and punctured the lung. We never did find the 4th one. I was impress how well it held together for all the bone it passed thru at pretty much muzzle velocity and how far it traveled would for sure use them on anything.
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
HuntnShoot,

I have several Barnes X's in my collection that lost either all or 3 of their 4 petals, going back to the original X, and including the most recent TTSX's, all from big game either I or my wife killed. The bullets all hit pretty serious bone, and all killed the animal very quickly: The farthest any went after the shot was 38 yards.

Have also recovered some other "petal" type bullets that lost all or most of their petals. Same deal with hitting bone, and how quickly the animal died.

None of those bullets stopped halfway through the animal. All were 1-shot kills.

Fifteen years ago I was sitting around a campfire with Randy Brooks when he mentioned that the earliest X bullets tended to lose their petals. He thought this was a pretty good deal, since the flying fragments resulted in more tissue destruction. But many of his customers were fixated on "100% weight retention," so like any good businessman he pleased his customers, playing with the annealing of the front end until they usually did retain all petals. But he sure didn't think it was necessary.

Now it looks like history is repeating itself. The LRX's are indeed a little "softer" than TTSX's, to insure they expand at longer ranges--and once again some hunters are complaining that some LRX's recovered from really dead animals lost petals, didn't retain enough weight, or don't look right.
Posted By: Fotis Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
HuntnShoot,

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Now it looks like history is repeating itself. The LRX's are indeed a little "softer" than TTSX's, to insure they expand at longer ranges--and once again some hunters are complaining that some LRX's recovered from really dead animals lost petals, didn't retain enough weight, or don't look right.


Not me! happy as a lark
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Yeah, I would be too!
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Have also been happy when those other petal-free X's killed stuff quickly!
Posted By: Tejano Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Fotis those are some great "bullet failure" results. If a 30-378 isn't a good bullet tester than nothing is. Good looking Bulls wish I could find them in the flatland like that. Excellent work. I think I am in the shedding petals is good camp but need to do more testing. This will take quite awhile as I catch so few X bullets to tell what happened.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/13/18
Got a box of 95gr 6mms to try. Softer will be fine by me since I won't feel like I have to drive them as hard to ensure expansion. 2900 should be plenty and easy to get to with RL26. Easier on the barrels and plenty for the ranges I shoot at.
Posted By: Bearcat74 Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/14/18

65% weight retention, the nose sheared off and the shank kept driving...... sounds like a Partition......
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/14/18
But Partitions obviously won't kill anything.....
Posted By: Bearcat74 Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/14/18
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
But Partitions obviously won't kill anything.....



Obviously... smile
Posted By: BWalker Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/14/18
FWIW I shot an elk this year through both shoulder blades with the same bullet from a 300 wsm. Didnt recover the bullet as it passed through, but found no lost petals either and I did look for them.. I also shot a mule deer with the same bullet from a 300 ultra and that bullet passed through both shoukder blades as well with no petals found. Both shots where under 100 yards.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/15/18
I killed a decent 5x5 bull with a 7mm rem mag shooting 145 LRX's at 3225 MV this year. 100 yds broadside with two shots through the shoulder, both were complete pass throughs. I found one broken off petal when cleaning him.

Last year I used the same load on a 6x6. Again two bullets complete pass throughs but that one was 375 yds.

I've yet to recover a bullet and all four shots penetrated both shoulders of mature bull elk. Neither really needed a second shot but I like a second if they're still standing, at least with elk.
Posted By: Hesp Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/15/18
Well I am a 6.5x06 shooter also. Use the 120gr TSX exclusively for elk. Has given consistent one shot kills over the years. Is the only bullet I use on elk. Absolute dependability. Of course you know that..
Posted By: 7mmMato Re: LRX recovered from Elk - 11/18/18
Ive had good luck with all the Barnes Bullets I have used so far.
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