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Posted By: SGB Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
I've had several Sako's but no Sauer's. How does a Sauer 202 compare to a Sako 85?
Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
The Sauer is not a light rifle (think M70 SuperGrade).

But the quality is exceptional, as is the accuracy (my experience).

I'd prefer the Sauer hands-down to the Sako.

Plus, many have had ejection issues with the Sako 85, so they are off my list.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
The 202 is a great rifle but it has been replaced in the Sauer line by the 404 so if you're looking at one, take that into consideration. Barrels still remain available, mostly in Europe but some are here in the US, as well.
Posted By: SDHNTR Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
The Sako 85 ejection issue needs to be thoroughly understood before you make up your mind. I really wanted one, but after seeing one myself, and seeing the position of the ejector blade, I just can’t do it. It’s an obvious design flaw IMO. Sorry, no experience with the Sauer.
Posted By: Skydawg Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
I have three Sako 85’s, Barvarian 7mm-08 Swarovski Z3 3x9, Barvarian Carbine 6.5x55 Leupold 6x36, Grizzly 8x57 Leupold VX 5HD 1x5, and I have never had an ejection problem with any of these rifles. All have optilock one piece low mount rings.
Posted By: Skydawg Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
Forgot to mention that the accuracy on the 85’s I have is great. The Grizzly shoots less than 1/2 inch with Nosler 200 grain Accubond and just over 1/2 inch with Nosler Partition. The Barvarian shoots just under 1 inch with Norma 156 grain Oryx. I have not had a chance to take the Swede to the range.
Posted By: warpig602 Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
Originally Posted by Skydawg
I have three Sako 85’s, Barvarian 7mm-08 Swarovski Z3 3x9, Barvarian Carbine 6.5x55 Leupold 6x36, Grizzly 8x57 Leupold VX 5HD 1x5, and I have never had an ejection problem with any of these rifles. All have optilock one piece low mount rings.



Ive owned 7 85's, Finnlights in 300wsm, 6.5x55, 300WM, 243 and Varmints in 308, 204 and 243.....none of them had ejection issues. My Finnlight in 6.5x55 is my most used rifle.
SAKO 85 is a very nicely done so-so design. Sauer 202 the cream of the crop. I wouldn't get one. It'll make you wanna slap your Remington.
Posted By: geedubya Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
SAKO 85 is a very nicely done so-so design. Sauer 202 the cream of the crop. I wouldn't get one. It'll make you wanna slap your Remington.



Have not owned the 202 Sauer,

do have a couple of the Sauer 200


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Top: Sauer 200 Europa-Lux, 25-06 Rem.

Bottom: Sauer 200 Banquet Rifle

IMHO, at least on these two, the quality of the wood, fit and finsh are superior to the garden variety Sakos of the past. Quality rifles that shoot better than they look!

BTW, barrels are interchangable.

ya!

GWB
Posted By: warpig602 Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
Now I need a Sauer with spoon style bolt handle.
Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
Originally Posted by geedubya
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
SAKO 85 is a very nicely done so-so design. Sauer 202 the cream of the crop. I wouldn't get one. It'll make you wanna slap your Remington.



Have not owned the 202 Sauer,

do have a couple of the Sauer 200


[Linked Image]

Top: Sauer 200 Europa-Lux, 25-06 Rem.

Bottom: Sauer 200 Banquet Rifle

IMHO, at least on these two, the quality of the wood, fit and finsh are superior to the garden variety Sakos of the past. Quality rifles that shoot better than they look!

BTW, barrels are interchangable.

ya!

GWB


You can always be counted on to produce quality gun porn. grin
Posted By: SDHNTR Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/05/19
Originally Posted by warpig602
Originally Posted by Skydawg
I have three Sako 85’s, Barvarian 7mm-08 Swarovski Z3 3x9, Barvarian Carbine 6.5x55 Leupold 6x36, Grizzly 8x57 Leupold VX 5HD 1x5, and I have never had an ejection problem with any of these rifles. All have optilock one piece low mount rings.



Ive owned 7 85's, Finnlights in 300wsm, 6.5x55, 300WM, 243 and Varmints in 308, 204 and 243.....none of them had ejection issues. My Finnlight in 6.5x55 is my most used rifle.


That’s great, I know the “problem” is sporadic at best with most working fine. The good ones tend to have a strong ejector spring that overrides the extractor blade being in the 6 o’clock position. The problematic ones seem to have weaker springs. Philosophically, it bothers me to have to rely on that spring for proper function as it’s mechanical and will theoretically wear out. Then you are back to the fixed ejector to do its job which will kick the case straight up. Just seems like a design flaw, asking for trouble eventually. And it’s unnecessary, if they just would have put the blade over at the 8 o’clock position originally we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Worst of all, Sako/Beretta’s failure to address the issue is bothersome.

All that is just my own personal mental hang up. I could be convinced to own a properly functioning Bavarian Carbine in Swede. To me, it’s by far the most aesthetically pleasing full stock rifle out there.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/06/19
geedubya, you're my hero. That's a beautiful pair of Sauer rifles.
Posted By: Mac284338 Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/06/19
202 vs 85, interesting reading. I have a Sauer 100 and an A7 Roughtech. The 100 is almost half the price of the A7 and the quality is better to me. I know, off-topic but maybe a bit valid regarding manufacturers.
Posted By: Sakohunter264 Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/06/19
I own four Sauer 202s. Let’s just say they are part of my retirement plan.

Very nice rifles indeed, made of the finest quality metal and wood available.
Posted By: Bill in NE Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/06/19
I always thought 202s were custom made for me.
And my kids.
Palm swell, cheek piece. Svelte.
Altogether we have 6 rifles.
Barrels include 4 chambered 6.5x55.
2 barrels in 308, a 30-06, 9.3x62, 6BR, 30BR, 223, 300 Win Mag and 375 H&H.

But I don’t throw them across the driveway to break in the barrels.
I don’t lay them in a pond to photograph.

I like 202s.
Hint.
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/06/19
Sauer is really nice but heavy so I went the Sako 85 route.

I’ve had 4 of them, I still have 2.. a 260, and 280 AI / 9.3x62 switch barrel. both with Krieger Barrels in Mc stocks... smile

Posted By: Oldelkhunter Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/06/19
Originally Posted by Bill in NE
I always thought 202s were custom made for me.
And my kids.
Palm swell, cheek piece. Svelte.
Altogether we have 6 rifles.
Barrels include 4 chambered 6.5x55.
2 barrels in 308, a 30-06, 9.3x62, 6BR, 30BR, 223, 300 Win Mag and 375 H&H.

But I don’t throw them across the driveway to break in the barrels.
I don’t lay them in a pond to photograph.

I like 202s.
Hint.


Blasphemy grin
Posted By: castnblast Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/07/19
I have both and like both. They have somewhat different ergonomics - stock fit, handling and balance. I'd suggest you get one of each in hand before you make your buying decision. And I have had a couple Sakos that needed stronger extractor springs, a $5 part. But have never needed to do anything whatsoever to a Sauer. They just work properly and shoot straight.
Posted By: old_willys Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/07/19
Originally Posted by Skydawg
I have three Sako 85’s, Barvarian 7mm-08 Swarovski Z3 3x9, Barvarian Carbine 6.5x55 Leupold 6x36, Grizzly 8x57 Leupold VX 5HD 1x5, and I have never had an ejection problem with any of these rifles. All have optilock one piece low mount rings.

Same here 3 85's and none had ejection issues
Posted By: ghostrider272 Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/07/19
Have only handled the Sako 85s. Nice rifle, but I struggled with the Sako scope mounts (used them on the AV series), too bulky. I own 4 Sauer 202s (1 RH, 3 LH). For those who feel they may be a bit heavy, find one in the alloy frame. I have 3 alloy frame and they lighten up the rifle quite a bit. As far as barrels go, I had one made by Benchmark and am still breaking it in, but the interchangeability of the barrels along with the quality of the rifle is what has me hooked on them. My RH 202 is the lightweight alloy frame with built in scope bases and a synthetic stock. Nice rig for the right handed shooter.
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/07/19
If you become a gunsmith or know a good one you can make your Sako 85 a switch barrel. smile

Bed the stock better than a sauer too...

I did. smile
Posted By: Paradiddle Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/08/19
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
The 202 is a great rifle but it has been replaced in the Sauer line by the 404 so if you're looking at one, take that into consideration. Barrels still remain available, mostly in Europe but some are here in the US, as well.


404 LOL! Does anyone in Germany use the internet?
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Sauer 202 vs Sako 85 - 02/08/19
No ejection issues with a Sako 85 in 270 Winchester, one of the ones known for the issue. Don't have a 202, but do have a 101 select. Sauer's are very well made, The 200/202 are switch barrels and kind of a funny setup to me, but they do work very well. They are expensive as are the barrels. Nice things usually are.
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