Looking for a versatile big game load for the 7-08. 140 grain as a minimum and good enough for antelope to maybe (rarely-if-ever) elk.
What say you? I was thinking about the 150 grain LR Accubond at 2800 fps or 162 ELDX at 2700 fps if I can get them to shoot at that velocity.
The 150 would be a good elk load. I'd use a 140 without much worry.
Any actual loads with velocity/accuracy results would be cool
I am using Hornady 139 BTSP and Nosler 140 BT in mine. Getting 2750+ with 45.5 H414 and Hornady; 2800+ with 46 H414 and Nosler.
I have a hankering to try Hornady 154 RN’s, but they discontinued them. If I was wanting a bigger critter load I would try the Hornady FB 154 or 150 Partition. The Speer 145 HC ain’t bad either. Then again, my favorite ice cream is vanilla.
The last 7-08 for which I worked-up a load was a fussy SOB. Here's how it washed-out in the end:
So what is your final load? I'm guessing 48 grains of Big Game, but not sure. I ask because I recently bought a Nosler 48 Liberty rifle in 7mm-08 and am working on 140 grain bullet loads for it. In my rifle, 46 grains of BG gives me 2,800 even. My old favorite load of 43 grains of WW-748 is about 30-40 fps faster. Same for my other go-to load, 47 grains of WW-760. I would prefer using BG as it is less temp-sensitive.
Bullet: 140 grain Barnes TTSX
Powder: Ramshot Big Game
Charge: 48.0 grains
Brass: Hornady, 3x fired since virgin and annealed
Primer: CCI 200
COAL: 2.800
Rifle: Rem 700 Cabela's Mountain Guide (22" barrel)
This rifle has been slow with every powder/bullet combination I've tried. I'd have stopped at 2,800-ish if I had gotten there with another powder, or a lesser charge of this one. As it was, I was usually in the low-mid 2,600's, even near max with CFE223, R15, Varget, H414, and H4350.
Surely one of those would have worked well. Nope. Magnum primers will tighten groups with ball powders. Nope. Of course a Barnes likes a good jump to the lands. Not in this rifle.
I'm grateful for all the advice I've received. I just had to run through all the permutations with this quirky rifle. I'm kind of unsure why I bothered, other than being really curious... and more than a li'l stubborn...
FC
Once I found this load, I took it as a backup on a goat hunt (with an elk tag, too).
I'd betcha a cuppa josé that you'll find a load much more quickly than I did.
Keep us posted.
FC
41.5 Varget, 140 accubond @2800fps.
140 grain Partition or Accubond
47.5 gr Big Game
WLRM
2.805” COAL
2880 fps MV
I’ve killed deer elk and antelope with this load.
150 ELDX
46.2 gr Big Game
WLRM
Forget the BTO but it’s a little long
2790 fps MV
Deer and elk
Tikka rifles. Loads are max so work up.
Elk to 409 yards, deer to 541 yards, only speed goat was 311 yards.
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I am working up a load with 140gr. Hornady interbond. So far 4451 at 48 gr. in Rem brass with wlr primers looks good. 2880 fps in 3/4" but I have to confirm this with several more groups.
140 AB, my dad’s best bull
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150 ELDX, 409 yards, my nephew’s first bull
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311 yard goat, 140 AB
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Buck on the right, 541 yards, 140 Partition
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140 Partition, 346 yards, DRT
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There’s more. You get the idea.
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2880 fps in 3/4" but I have to confirm this with several more groups.
3/4” is unacceptable
Red Death, 150 ELDX
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Red Death, 140 Partition
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Red Death, 140 AB, 200 yards, kinda windy
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Superlite, 140 Partition
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You have to give Tikka and Pharmseller credit the two can shoot! I'm the mossback here pushing 42.0 grains of BLC2 under a 140 grain Partition for just over 2700 fps out of my 18 1/2 inch barrel. It gets even worse I like 40.0 grains of IMR 4895 under the 150 grain Ballistic tip for right at 2600 fps. If I draw my Wyoming Mulie tag this rifle will be backup and rock climbing rifle.
Looking for a versatile big game load for the 7-08. 140 grain as a minimum and good enough for antelope to maybe (rarely-if-ever) elk.
What say you? I was thinking about the 150 grain LR Accubond at 2800 fps or 162 ELDX at 2700 fps if I can get them to shoot at that velocity.
Akin to asking..."what kind of mileage do green pickups get?". Hint. Congratulations?!?
Projectile selection is predicated upon RPM,Throat Geometry and COAL latitude.
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
Laughing!...............
Decided to first try the 140 Nosler Accubond. Will advise of results----after Blizzard!
Akin to asking..."what kind of mileage do green pickups get?". Hint. Congratulations?!?
Projectile selection is predicated upon RPM,Throat Geometry and COAL latitude.
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
Laughing!...............
Bless your heart Larry, for saying the same damn thing, in the same damn way, on the same damn thread, twice within 18 hours.......Your beginning to sound a bit like the Magic Eight Ball with a canned response for every possible Campfire question. Or you've been snorting too much sawdust again. Hint: Whatever, Laughing at your canned antics. Have a sparkling day Sunshine.....
I'm loading the 120 grain and 140 grain Barnes TTSX for my 7mm-08. It's a Howa 1500 with a 22" barrel. I'm using IMR 4895 for both (that's what I have), 42.0 for the 120 grainers and 39 grains for the 140 grainers. Right out of the Barnes manual. No pics, but very pleased with accuracy and terminal performance (only deer so far). I've been told by an Idaho elk hunter that either of those works perfectly on elk.
Bless your heart Larry, for saying the same damn thing, in the same damn way, on the same damn thread, twice within 18 hours.......Your beginning to sound a bit like the Magic Eight Ball with a canned response for every possible Campfire question. Or you've been snorting too much sawdust again. Hint: Whatever, Laughing at your canned antics. Have a sparkling day Sunshine.....
Slowroll,
Pardon facts upsetting you so. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your Whining Dumbfhuqktitude never wanes,in it's Magnificent Oblivious Splendor. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying.
Hint.
Laughing!.............
And another thread gone to poop. Oh well
Akin to asking..."what kind of mileage do green pickups get?". Hint. Congratulations?!?
Projectile selection is predicated upon RPM,Throat Geometry and COAL latitude.
Bless your heart for trying though.
Pardon them facts upsetting you.
Hint.
Laughing!...............
Broken record...LOL
The facts or you do not upset me anymore Lawrence.
Broken record...LOL
The facts or you do not upset me anymore Lawrence.
Kchuntis,
Your keyboard is slurring.
Akin to asking..."what kind of mileage do green pickups get?". Hint. Congratulations?!?
Projectile selection is predicated upon RPM,Throat Geometry and COAL latitude.
Bless your heart for trying though.
Pardon them facts upsetting you.
Hint.
Laughing!...............
Match the bullet to the game.
RPM,Throat Geometry and COAL latitude is for paper punchers or do nothings like you bs.
This javelina did not care one bit about RPM,Throat Geometry or COAL latitude.
![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/dhIADTI.jpg)
elkchunt,
I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that besides being a CLUELESS Fhuqk,that you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit. Didja' yet again "forget" about your Imaginary Pretend Ignore? Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon ALL things The Rifle,being well beyond your "means","abilities" and "comprehension".
Bless your heart for trying though.
Hint.
Laughing!............
Decided to first try the 140 Nosler Accubond. Will advise of results----after Blizzard!
Not to rain on your parade but I've been trying for some kind of accuracy with the 150 gr. ABLR in three 7x57s and a .280 Remington. I got an easy 2800 FPS from the 7x57 but no luck getting decent groups. I don't think it's a twist rate problem as on rifle has a 1in 8.5" twist. Not sure what the Ruger and Winchester twists are. Kind of surprising as the Winchester M70 FWT has been a tack driver with every thing else I've tried. Apparently some people have good luck with them right from the start. So far I just haven't been so lucky.
Paul B.
Gunning Nuzzlers,is akin to pulling spark plug wires out from under the hood.
Hint..............
Gunning Nuzzlers,is akin to pulling spark plug wires out from under the hood.
Hint..............
They got me in the P100.
Apparently you're just a [bleep] archer.
Cite the Nuzzler that'll hang with the .284" 180 ELD.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
I could find out my buddies load for his 7-08 with 120 grain TTSX. He's a cow killing fool with his Ruger and that bullet. However, I'm sure the AB will kill just as well.
Have only seen (5) .284" 120 X's flung towards Mooses and they all punched a tag.
That being said...we've come a Looooonnnnnggggggggggg ways baby and the 180 ELD is simply a fhuqking Phenom.
Hint.....................
Decided to first try the 140 Nosler Accubond. Will advise of results----after Blizzard!
Not to rain on your parade but I've been trying for some kind of accuracy with the 150 gr. ABLR in three 7x57s and a .280 Remington. I got an easy 2800 FPS from the 7x57 but no luck getting decent groups. I don't think it's a twist rate problem as on rifle has a 1in 8.5" twist. Not sure what the Ruger and Winchester twists are. Kind of surprising as the Winchester M70 FWT has been a tack driver with every thing else I've tried. Apparently some people have good luck with them right from the start. So far I just haven't been so lucky.
Paul B.
I tried several different recipes with the 150 ABLR. No luck in accuracy despite a darn good attempt.
The vanilla AB is a great choice.
The 150 ELDX also shoots lights out and kills right now.
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Hey Lawrence:
What deer or antelope is going to care about any of these things from 20 - 300 yards????
Find ME wrong now. Every time there is a question about loads bullets guns you quote super high BC, twist, throat etc. Yes they have their place but not all mandatory for all hunting.
Dude, you act as if someone handed you a 30-30 and a survival pack, you would literally starve in the woods.
And in conclusion why am I sitting here trying to educate a lepton?
Kchuntis,
Your "understanding",bears less than ZERO upon Facts & Physics. Hint. Congratulations?!?
I get it,that you are a Brokedick Day Dreaming Do Nothing DUMB Fhuqk,that only "shoots" her mouth and Imagination,which is what your "experience" is predicated upon and that's the ONLY reason it is soooooooooo fhuqking FUNNY! Hint.
Pardon my shooting it all and then some...if only to your WELL founded Insecurities and chagrin. Hint.
Be SURE to make ALL the excuses you need,to "justify" your EPIC Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint.
Bless your heart for trying.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
2880 fps in 3/4" but I have to confirm this with several more groups.
3/4” is unacceptable
Red Death, 150 ELDX
Red Death, 140 Partition
Red Death, 140 AB, 200 yards, kinda windy
Superlite, 140 Partition
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Show off!
I like both the 120 and 140 NBT's. Been going 140 mostly for a while now. Seems to be a very tough bullet but I have only shot deer and hogs with it. Zips right through even big hogs. However, I could give a rats ass about BC as I am not shooting at game over about 300 yards. I don't think a bonded bullet is necessary for the 7mm-08.
The 120 Barnes shoulda be great.
I like both the 120 and 140 NBT's. Been going 140 mostly for a while now. Seems to be a very tough bullet but I have only shot deer and hogs with it. Zips right through even big hogs. However, I could give a rats ass about BC as I am not shooting at game over about 300 yards. I don't think a bonded bullet is necessary for the 7mm-08.
The Dumber you are...the "better" Nuzzler is. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Laughing!................
I like both the 120 and 140 NBT's. Been going 140 mostly for a while now. Seems to be a very tough bullet but I have only shot deer and hogs with it. Zips right through even big hogs. However, I could give a rats ass about BC as I am not shooting at game over about 300 yards. I don't think a bonded bullet is necessary for the 7mm-08.
The Dumber you are...the "better" Nuzzler is. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
Laughing!................
See did I not just tell everybody that these bullets will NOT work.
They do not Jive with Lawrence's geometry, throat, or RPM. These kinda bounce off deer at 200 yards from a 7mm-08. LOL
On a serious note I have taken a lot of game with the 7mm-08 and the 120 BT at 3030 fps via Varget. I was just trying to minimalize my components. Too many guns
Kchuntis,
You "forgot" about your Imaginary Pretend Ignore,went right to being a fhuqking snivelling "victim" and didn't cite a fhuqking thing germane to projectile selection. Hint. Congratulations?!?
On top of that,you lied about your Imaginary Pretend Ignore and flaunt your very WELL founded Insecurities. Hint.
Bless your heart for tRYINg.
Hint.
Laughing!.................
Hey Stick,
I have not posted much over the years and that is probably a good thing. I am no expert just an outdoors-man. I am the jack of all trades and the master of none. I hunt ( mammals and birds ), fish ( fresh and saltwater ), take photos, view wildlife, hike, work to provide for the family,
fix stuff around the house and the mountain house, and help folks less fortunate than me among other things. I'll admit, I am not an expert at any of it. So I have a serious question. Why do I need a ELD-X for a shot at 300 yards or less? I like my 25-06. I don't know I just do. I also like the 7mm-08. I tend to use the 25-06 more just because when I was a kid I wanted one. It works. I like older stuff and it always worked. I don't care about the latest and greatest. Critters tend to die when I pull the trigger. I know you shoot long range and have a lot of experience and shoot a lot and are good at it. so at ranges 300 yards and below why should any one care about these high BC boolits?
While the Ballistic Tip may not be the sleekest long range bullet out there I have used the 150 grain .284 version on all sorts of game and some pretty long shots too. That bullet has always shot well, penetrated plenty and killed stuff quickly. I have to say the 150 gr. .284 and the 180 gr. .308 Ballistic Tips are fine bullets for the vast majority of hunting situations. I could say the same thing for Partitions, Speer Hotcor's, and Hornady Innerlocs. Pick the bullet suitable for the game hunted, use it within it's capabilities and things will go well.
Hey Stick,
I have not posted much over the years and that is probably a good thing. I am no expert just an outdoors-man. I am the jack of all trades and the master of none. I hunt ( mammals and birds ), fish ( fresh and saltwater ), take photos, view wildlife, hike, work to provide for the family,
fix stuff around the house and the mountain house, and help folks less fortunate than me among other things. I'll admit, I am not an expert at any of it. So I have a serious question. Why do I need a ELD-X for a shot at 300 yards or less? I like my 25-06. I don't know I just do. I also like the 7mm-08. I tend to use the 25-06 more just because when I was a kid I wanted one. It works. I like older stuff and it always worked. I don't care about the latest and greatest. Critters tend to die when I pull the trigger. I know you shoot long range and have a lot of experience and shoot a lot and are good at it. so at ranges 300 yards and below why should any one care about these high BC boolits?
You don’t need a 150 ELDX. Realistically I don’t either, but my rifles really like them, so I figure what the heck, I’ll use them.
To be fair, they really like everything, so if I had to use a 140 Partition for all of my hunting I would be content to do so. My longest shot, in fact, was a big mulie fork at 541 yards. No way to get closer and I had practiced extensively out to 600 yards. Bang flop, 140 Partition, double lung and exit.
BC, sectional density, coriolis effect, blah blah blah, unless you’re shooting at 1,000 yards or more. And I’m sure as hell not.
P
Cite the Nuzzler that'll hang with the .284" 180 ELD.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
And Fotis, if you change your mind about trying the 120 Ballistic Tip, I can have a box on your way with load data. On the house.
Same load, different rifles
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Ain’t much gonna survive a poke in the ribs from a 120 at 3100 plus.
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You Dumb Kchunts can't even zero a scope.
Hint.
LAUGHING!................
To 500 yards any Nosler factory load is flatter than the 180 Hornady.
Wind Drift?
Hint.............
Cite the Nuzzler that'll hang with the .284" 180 ELD.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
Why does it have to for under 300 yards. Are you that obtuse???
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
Cite the Nuzzler that'll hang with the .284" 180 ELD.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
Why does it have to for under 300 yards. Are you that obtuse???
I'm rather enjoying your slur.
Hint................
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
I might give that a try. Have everything on the shelf. What sorta speed out of that combo? 2600-2700?
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
Do you have any load data and velocity numbers with the RL26 in 7mm-08?
Cite the Nuzzler that'll hang with the .284" 180 ELD.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...............
Why does it have to for under 300 yards. Are you that obtuse???
I'm rather enjoying your slur.
Hint................
I'm enjoying your deflecting bs.
Pardon my shooting it all and then some.
Hint.................
Right and the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.
Your Stupidity,rests solely upon your narrow shoulders.
Hint.................
When it comes to stupidity,you're the tops,bs.
elkchunt,
Besides being CLUELESS,you are also a Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit...due your Imaginary Pretend Ignore. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart.
LAUGHING!..............
Them that can't,simply MUST plagiarize. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart...you Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit!
LAUGHING!...................
Them that can't,simply MUST plagiarize. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless your heart...you Lying Piece Of Fhuqking Schit!
LAUGHING!...................
![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/aLoE2cT.jpg)
Them that cain't...simply MUST Google.
Hint.
Laughing!.............
Them than can do.
Where are the pictures of your trophies from winning benchrest matches or any other competition?
Fredrica,
Pardon your Brokedick ways precluding your owning a 223AI and suffering a SCHIT "mount".
Bless your heart for TRYING.
Hint.
LAUGHING!.................
elkchunt,
Just keep on TRYING to not schit your pants.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...........
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
Do you have any load data and velocity numbers with the RL26 in 7mm-08?
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 180, Hornady ELD-M 28503
Useable Case Capaci: 43.304 grain H2O = 2.812 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-30.0 78 33.60 1745 1217 19650 6733 80.1 1.897
-27.0 82 35.04 1829 1337 21814 7251 83.3 1.817
-24.0 85 36.48 1916 1467 24250 7757 86.3 1.740
-21.0 88 37.92 2004 1606 26996 8244 89.1 1.665
-18.0 92 39.36 2095 1754 30102 8702 91.7 1.592
-15.0 95 40.80 2186 1911 33626 9125 93.9 1.521
-12.0 98 42.24 2279 2076 37637 9502 95.9 1.450
-09.0 102 43.68 2373 2250 42222 9826 97.5 1.373
-06.0 105 45.12 2467 2432 47488 10090 98.7 1.299
-03.0 108 46.56 2561 2621 53570 10287 99.5 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 112 48.00 2655 2817 60637 10410 99.9 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 115 49.44 2748 3019 68909 10460 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 119 50.88 2841 3227 78674 10486 100.0 1.039 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+09.0 122 52.32 2935 3442 90318 10494 100.0 0.982 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+12.0 125 53.76 3028 3666 104375 10482 100.0 0.927 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+15.0 129 55.20 3123 3899 121579 10448 100.0 0.875 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
elkchunt,
Just keep on TRYING to not schit your pants.
Hint.
LAUGHING!...........
So,by your dodging the question,you have no trophies from shooting matches.
Just what I figured.
You Drooling DUMB Fhuqks are a hoot! Hint. Congratulations?!?
Does being CLUELESS about twist rate,throating and COAL...make your Stupid "better"?!?
Bless your heart.
Hint.
Laughing!.............
So why are you wasting your time with us clueless people????? Because you have no life you pathetic little gnome
Ooooopsie!.............
![[Linked Image]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/692/lzvq.jpg)
You Drooling DUMB Fhuqks are a hoot! Hint. Congratulations?!?
Does being CLUELESS about twist rate,throating and COAL...make your Stupid "better"?!?
What good is any of that if you can't shoot? What good is it if you get beat by a "clueless fhuqk"?
Pretend as you must.
Hint.
LAUGHING!............
Pretend as you must.
Hint.
LAUGHING!............
Get out that Kodachrome Larry, post those awards & club championships.
Or you can pretend you know how to shoot instead of just being a JBM diddler.
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
I might give that a try. Have everything on the shelf. What sorta speed out of that combo? 2600-2700?
I was getting 2740, I got quickload help from the guys over on nosler forums. I settled on 52.0grs of rl26.
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
Do you have any load data and velocity numbers with the RL26 in 7mm-08?
Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 180, Hornady ELD-M 28503
Useable Case Capaci: 43.304 grain H2O = 2.812 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-26
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-30.0 78 33.60 1745 1217 19650 6733 80.1 1.897
-27.0 82 35.04 1829 1337 21814 7251 83.3 1.817
-24.0 85 36.48 1916 1467 24250 7757 86.3 1.740
-21.0 88 37.92 2004 1606 26996 8244 89.1 1.665
-18.0 92 39.36 2095 1754 30102 8702 91.7 1.592
-15.0 95 40.80 2186 1911 33626 9125 93.9 1.521
-12.0 98 42.24 2279 2076 37637 9502 95.9 1.450
-09.0 102 43.68 2373 2250 42222 9826 97.5 1.373
-06.0 105 45.12 2467 2432 47488 10090 98.7 1.299
-03.0 108 46.56 2561 2621 53570 10287 99.5 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 112 48.00 2655 2817 60637 10410 99.9 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 115 49.44 2748 3019 68909 10460 100.0 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 119 50.88 2841 3227 78674 10486 100.0 1.039 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+09.0 122 52.32 2935 3442 90318 10494 100.0 0.982 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+12.0 125 53.76 3028 3666 104375 10482 100.0 0.927 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+15.0 129 55.20 3123 3899 121579 10448 100.0 0.875 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
I only used it with 162's never really thought about 180's until last night..
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
Do you have any load data and velocity numbers with the RL26 in 7mm-08?
My data is 52.0 gr rl 26, 162grvhornady, rem 9 1/2 LR primer, I was avg 2740 FPS. I got quickload help from guys over on nosler forum.
Oooopsie!..............
![[Linked Image]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/AOORN4.jpg)
Rl26 with a 162 out of a 22 inch barrel will have rethinking anything 120 or 140.. some rl26 with that 180 eld-m chit you won’t be talking about 6.5 cm no more
I might give that a try. Have everything on the shelf. What sorta speed out of that combo? 2600-2700?
I was getting 2740, I got quickload help from the guys over on nosler forums. I settled on 52.0grs of rl26.
That’ll work. I’ll check it out. Thanks 79S!
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I would look hard at the 150 gr. Scirocco. Controled expantion design with a BC of 0.52 and good weight retention. Should be compatible with the twist in the 7MM-08 with a 22" barrel. My .280 Rem has been up to the task on 4 bulls pushing a 160 gr. Win. Fail Safe load (2800 FPS + or minus) that was discontinued back in the 90's. The .280 is only 90 FPS slower (+ or -) then a Rem 7 Mag. with the same load. Your 7MM-08 is even more efficent with slightly less velocity generated from a smaller case. Resulting in a lighter, shorter, quick pointing rifle with less recoil and muzzle blast. What's not to like? The elk might know the difference on a well placed shot.
Many great choices.
On goats I’d run a 120/140 BT, though a plain 139 does fine and runs almost as accurately.
I’ve run a bit more Varget than others- fine in my rifles using partial sized brass. WW cases hold about 1.5 more though much of my R&D used RP which are lesser quality.
On deer/hogs and elk. A 140 AB would be my 1st choice to 400 yds. And if accuracy proven- a 120 TTSX right with it. Partitions are never a poor choice.
In 150s many forget or skip the BT. It’s a sleeper. I’d much rather run it than a non bonded 140. Much game that will be hunted and fall to 7/08s will be taken using 120-150s. The 162 and heavier have a place. True LR. Dope has to be worked out like anything else. Gains can be had in wind and residual energy. BC and SD matter - but construction likewise.
In 120-140 Varget achieves good MV and accuracy. IMR 4064 matches speed but prints tighter groups IME.
In the end for many 7/08 users a 139 SP/BTSP or 140 AB can do the bulk of work.
On goats and especially deer one sleeper many forget - the 130 BTSP Speer. I might rather it over 120 BT on longer shots. Accuracy test would determine.
What kind of powder do we need to light under them 180s and how fast will the boolits go?
What kind of powder do we need to light under them 180s and how fast will the boolits go?
Does twist become an issue at this weight?
Well, I loaded up some 140 BT's with some Rl17. We will see!!
Big Game. Say it with me. Big Game.
I will buy a pound if the rl17 fails
The rifle hated rl17. At least with the 140 bt
The rifle hated rl17. At least with the 140 bt
Any updates?
Big Game. Say it with me. Big Game.
Yes, this stuff rocks in a 7-08
Big Game. Say it with me. Big Game.
Yes, this stuff rocks in a 7-08
Hey! or it could be the Tikka
Big Game. Say it with me. Big Game.
Repeat after me, read my lips...
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I know I am a bit late to this party, but my best 7-08 load is 47.0 grains of H4350 under a 140 grain Nosler BT or Accubond with a Federal 210 primer. Getting right around 2750 fps out of my Browning A-bolt.
Big Game. Say it with me. Big Game.
Yes, this stuff rocks in a 7-08
Hey! or it could be the Tikka
Nope, works great in my Remington Model Seven. Lol
Anyone tested BG under a 154sst? And let it be noted, I'm already starting to play with the 120bt, and 139btsp atop BG.
Anyone tested BG under a 154sst? And let it be noted, I'm already starting to play with the 120bt, and 139btsp atop BG.
Not a 154, but a 150 eldx. Excellent results on multiple deer and one bull.
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I know I am a bit late to this party, but my best 7-08 load is 47.0 grains of H4350 under a 140 grain Nosler BT or Accubond with a Federal 210 primer. Getting right around 2750 fps out of my Browning A-bolt.
Half a grain more of BG gives me an additional 100 fps.
Which doesn’t suck.
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Best load for me so far is 42.3 gr of varget, 140 gr accubond, 2850fps out of a t3.
44gr of big game and 150 eldx gives me 2700 FPS and just over an inch, ES was all over. about the same result as rl17. Meh
Best load for me so far is 42.3 gr of varget, 140 gr accubond, 2850fps out of a t3.
44gr of big game and 150 eldx gives me 2700 FPS and just over an inch, ES was all over. about the same result as rl17. Meh
That's the ticket IMO. Hard to beat AB's in any caliber.
My wife shoots a 7mm-08 savage and I have a Ruger Frontier that my kids use. To simplify the ammo situation both rifles shoot the same load so I don't have to worry about mix-ups. Both rifles shoot a 140 accubond over a healthy charge of Varget around an inch. They have killed deer, elk and antelope just fine with that combo.
I did some shooting last year with the 120 BT out of the Ruger Frontier and was super impressed. Honest 3/8" groups and terminal performance was great on deer and antelope. If elk were never on the menu I doubt I would ever shoot anything other than the 120s within conventional hunting ranges. I am sure they will kill elk fine but I have a lot of confidence in the 140 accubond.
I load 160 gr. NP’s over 47.5 gr of RL19 at 2.815” for a MV of 2756 fps with excellent accuracy in my X-Bolt.
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