I've been shooting my Bobby Hart built 7-08. I got it last year, killed a deer with factory 120 NBT's as I hadn't gotten around to checking it out. It shoots a solid MOA.with those factory rounds.

This past weekend, I shot 140 VLD's over B.G. and StaBALL, both very accurate, StaBALL with the edge. Didn't have time to clock'em, will do that later. Was looking for groups.

I also shot 140 SGK's over 42.5 Varget and 45 B.G. Those loads grouped in the .2's with Varget, .3's with B.G. Uncanny accuracy that frankly surprised me.. I was using my 4 wheeler as a bench and the range was 110 yds. Not the best set up for that kinda precision. I'll post a picture of that set up one of these days.

Question: has anyone used the 140 SGK on WT's. We like to chest shoot our deer to save meat, so hopefully not a lot of bone and muscle involvement. MidwayUSA reviews give this bullet high reviews. It's the older HP version, not the newer one. I'm thinking it'll perform sorta like a VLD, pretty expansive with quick kills. Would appreciate hearing your experience with this bullet on game.

DF

I use 140 Sierra Pro Hunters over Varget but wouldn't hesitate to use SGKs....especially at 7-08 velocities. Sounds like your gun also likes Varget.

Using them in my 13yo son's 7-08. 39.6gr RL15 which is not a hot load, but it is the listed accuracy load in the Sierra manual. Haven't chrono'd to see what fps it's running, but probably 2650-2700 out of the 20" barrel? By far the most accurate bullet so far in that gun. He's killed 4 WT's, most around 100lbs, and a 175lb black bear, all between 25-100 yds All were direct shoulder shots so none went more than a few yds. Last one a few weeks ago, little buck. Broke shoulder, exited and heart looked like jello. Maybe 1" exit hole.
I use the 165's and 180's in .30-06 still too. Just never had Sierra's fail like some have. Our deer, on average, are smaller than a lot of areas though.

It will work but just know Sierra claims the HP version of the Gameking is a little "harder" than the soft point version.

I would have no issues using them. A bud uses the SP variation in a 280 and kills deer like lightning has hit them.

Thanks for that info.

MidwayUSA reviews were very supportive of this bullet and how well it performs. One guy reported good exits on WT’s even thru a shoulder. The reviews on the newer version weren’t as good as the HP version, which isn’t what I would have expected. Nothing like first hand experience.

DF

DF,

I'm confused about what you mean re newer and older versions. Could you elaborate a bit?

m

I was thinking the SP was the newer version, not sure, so lets say HP and SP...

Sounds like I'm not the only one confused...



DF

The lead pointed Game King (boat tail) and Pro Hunter (flat base) have been around "forever" as far as I know. I was loading them in the 80's for my father and they were fine on deer. I just did a little looking and I believe the hpbt Game King in 140 gr. came out around 2012. I'd have no qualms about trying them on deer at 7mm08 speed.

Same here with 140 Pro Hunters over 43.25gr Varget. My Tikka T3 loves it and it's done well on deer.

I guess I was calling old, new and new, old...

Thanks for the correction.

That HP SGK is surprisingly accurate in this rifle. So, if it's as good as the Midway reviewers say, may be a good choice for WT's and hogs.

Varget and B.G. both worked well with it. May need to try StaBALL, which was slightly more accurate than B.G with the 140 VLD, both loads going sub inch.

DF

I watched my friend shoot a couple deer and a coyote with the 150gr .308 version out of a M88 .308. Deer went right down ans stayed down. Bullets obviously opened up but held together well. The shot on the coyote was going away at 125yds and hit it in the middle of the back. Hit the spine at a flat angle which put a big hole in the hide, but it continued down and through the front of the animal. If I didn't use the 139 Hornady BTSP, I would use the SGK in my kids 7-08s and my 280.

I haven't been keeping up like I used to, so I thought a new Sierra development might have caught me unaware.

The hp Sierra Game Kings have always had a "fat" tangent ogive, not the best for BC but usually quite easy to get to shoot in just about reasonable rifle.

I appreciate the info. Even with not the best B.C. for LR shooting, this gun and load are primarily for WT's and 300 yds would be about the max shot.

With the accuracy I'm seeing, and with an elevation turret on the Conquest, I may be able to twist to a fairly LR scenario. That will be another project for another day. Ballistic tape for the turret may be the next thing once I settle on a load.. Twisting out to 500 would be about the limit. Beyond that, I'll get the 26 Nosler or the 6.5-284 out of the safe.

DF

Bobby Hart Rem 700, 7-08 in Hunters Edge, Timney 501, 3-9x40 Conquest with turret in Med LW Talleys. Hart barrel with Rem sporter contour.

Yup I do like the looks of this set up!!!!

DF i gotta ask. why didn't you stick with the 120 bt's? what kinda on game performance did they do for you? thats what is stoked in mine and my sons teeker 7mm-08's at the moment. gonna get him to bust a front axle and see what happens @100 yds.
Big Ed

Years ago I tried some 130 Game Kings from a 270. I wound up killng several whitetails with them. I never caught one and never had to shoot anything more than once.

They were cheap and accurate. I doubt you could push them too fast with your 7-08.

If nothing else, you could test them on my favorite test medium - hogs.

Big Ed,

I have shot a number of deer and hogs with the 120 BT from my 7-08. It is my favorite killing bullet in that round. I've had great on game performance from them. I don't have experience with the 140 SGK in 7mm but loaded a bunch of the .277 140 SGK HPBT in my .270WSM at over 3000 fps. I as worried but tried them on game. They worked great!

The boy's gun is damn near identical except barrel. 700, McMillan hunters edge in olive, timney, milled follower, Zeiss conquest 3-9x, Talley's, but OEM barrel soon to be rebarreled to a hawk hill 1-8".

Excellent question to which there is no logical answer, other than a goofy Loony chasing after the “perfect” load.

Ha! Over thinking it, for sure.

I may do exactly that and call it a day. Too many like you, JGRaider and others, whom I respect, advocating that bullet. I killed my buck last year with a 120 NBT factory load; worked great. Meat in the freezer.

DF

I bought a box of them a few years ago. Never have shot any. I also use the 120BT and have killed several deer, hogs, and antelope. Never once have I questioned the bullets performance. So, no need to move away from what works. I haven't had this magic with all BT's however. Never again will I try the 95gr 6mm version on game. Maybe I got a bad box, but my magic there is with the Sierra 85gr HPBT, the kin to the one your referencing. Thus the reason I bought a box. Let us know how it turns out. BTW, nice gun. What does it weigh?

I have used the 140 grain BTHP Gameking out of a 7mm/08. Don't have the rifle anymore, but would not hesitate to use that bullet on Whitetails as the three or four I took with them were all immediately impressed.

7# 14 oz, as you see it. Balances and handles great.

DF.

I use GameKings in 308 and 7mm08. They are accurate and kill stuff dead.

I liked 120 TTSX in my 7-08, but that bullet is waaaaay to expensive for killing deers.

I used to shoot the 140gr Gameking HP in a 270win and it was a great killer. BC kind of stunk, but it was rough on deer.

A good "economy" bullet these days is the 140gr Fusion in 100ct boxes. I've found them to be accurate and they are always a good performer on game in the 7mm-08.

120 gr. TTSX at 3,450 fps out of my 26 Nosler, 120 E-Tip about the same performance.

Pig bought the farm, lots of damage. Probably wouldn't be as severe at Creed and Swede speeds, or even at 6.5-284 speeds.

Different caliber, but I would think less damage at 7-08 speed with 120 TTSX.

DF

Used to use the 165 gr HP game king in the 30-06 back around 1980. Yep, they shot very well. And the bottom round in the mag well did not get its nose smashed after it had been there for five or six tactical reloads killing whistle pigs.
I quit using them after Nosler introduced the ballistic tip.

Just got back from the back 40, shooting several guns, including the 7-08.

Two stand out groups. One was with old Hornady 139 SP's, bought at NA Guns in East Baton Rouge in the '70's. I was using Horn Max of 47 gr. Pw Pro 2000 MR and shot a .4" three shot goup. Price on the box is $12.70 for 100 bullets. That one was a surprise.

The other was the 140 gr. SGK HPBT over 42.5 Varget. That one went .4", also. Throw in the .2" group earlier, that's pretty good for a LW hunting rifle.

This gun shoots so many combos well, it could cause a "Loony dilemma" deciding...

Then there's always that old, boring 120 NBT killer bullet that also groups extremely well...

DF

I figured an aggregate group size, (3) three shot groups, all not on the same day.

I averaged,.27", .4" and .69", came up with a 9 shot aggregate of .48", not bad for a 7#, 14 oz hunting rifle. Not sure if it's the Hart barrel, the way Bobby Hart put it together, or that fine Dirtfarmer bedding.

Guess it all came together with the 140 gr. SGK HPBT and 42.5 gr. Varget with 210 primers.

I think I'll use that load this season, work up 120 NBT loads later.

DF

No......

I'm gonna and will report...



DF

Purchased a box on Hornady Superformance 139 SST ammo in 7mm-08 last week. The very first round would not fire. I recocked the the firing mechanism three time and the primer did not fire. I checked the round after waiting a few minutes. The primer showed normal indention form firing pin. The rest of the ammo fired perfectly but group sizes were average. This ammo fired thru 20" bbl T/C Venture compact averaged grouping 1.6" at 100 yards. The rifle does better with other factory ammo. This ammo will NOT go hunting with me due to misfire.
I have hand loaded SST bullets for 270 winchester and 243 remington. Never had a problem with performance on deer. I may reload using SST bullets again but no more factory Hornady Superformance ammo for me.

I don’t personally shoot a 7mm-08 yet, but I have been using the 120gr NBT when loading for my friend’s son. He dropped a doe at 75 yards in her tracks with the bullet exiting, which was expected. What I didn’t expect was for him to take a cow elk at 200 yards with the same load that also ended up exiting. Perfect lung shot and she went about 20 yards before piling up.

There is no reason, in a 7mm-08, to feel like you need any more bullet than a 120 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip for killing whitetail deer. I have used them for several years and have never lost a deer. Sure, sometimes they run 20 to 30 yds, sometimes DRT, but always dead. And they usually exit. I get about 3100 fps with my load and they’ve worked at 60 yds. up to 225 yds.