I am at the age where I just got back from my last PD shoot in the TX panhandle.Thought I would give ya'll first shot at a savage model 112 single shot 22-250.Lam stock and 20power leupold before I go to gunbroker $850 firm ffl to ffl or come get it in Arkansas.Pics on request.If not allowed delete.

no thx......

the Savage action alone will sell better........

112 LA or 12 SA ?????????

Only thing worse than a 250 in a p/dog field.......

is a 220 Swift.............

But that's me......

Got to go with this also, might as well bring a 243.

What do you have against the 22-250?

I have read some ignorant chit on lots of outdoor sites but this one rates right up there.

Have to 2nd this question out of couriosity,we don't have have PD's here but love the roungd for other varmits.
Too big?

Too much boom/recoil. Does it kill PD's? Well, sure. But it is nice to have a repeater when the shooting is good, and one that you can see the carnage thru the scope makes it a whole lot funner....

Doesn't mean its the only gun in the town.

I found shooting Rock chucks with my 22-250 over a long day I would get awful tired of the boom, losing the sight picture in the scope from recoil , and I would have a sore shoulder from shooting prone all day long. Moved to a 223AI and lost a little bit of range, but all those other issues went away. I can watch the damage in the scope, lighter recoil by a bit, and quieter.... I still use the 22-250 occasionally, but not nearly as much ...

Recoil???? Wow..

This.
The recoil, although slight, accumulates over the day and is not much fun by the end of a really busy day.

I haven't really noticed the recoil of the 22.250 over the course of a day, but then it may be how I am loading it.

My three main powders are RL 7, H 322 and Benchmark, the heaviest charge is 33.5 grains of Benchmark with 50, 53 and 55 grain bullets...
30 grains of H 322 with 60 grain bullets, 53 gr, 50 gr bullets..
30 grs RL 7 for 50 thru 60 grainers... 33.5 grains of RL 7 for 40 grainers...

These are my most accurate loads in each of the ones I have.... recoil and sound is less than the usual 35 grains of so with 4065, 4895 RL 15, and similar powders...

have started using 2015 also, in the same 33.5 max load range....

and yeah, depending on what I am shooting at out in the field... Blue Dot loads get used also... 19 grains Max Load...

if that gets too much, there is always a 223 in the truck. with Blue Dot loads for that also...

my biggest issue is not recoil after a long day, its scope squint... That ended when I started going to 30mm Tube Scopes...

You may be right on the loading. I'm not particularly recoil sensitive, but that 22-250 after about 50-100 rounds laying prone watching and shooting at rock chucks really does a number on my shoulder. Never in any other position like sitting or kneeling, but in some fields those bastids can see you a long way off, so prone and long shooting is the only way to sneak a shot at them.. wish I could find some new rock chuck hunting spots, most of my old ones in Central Oregon have closed down and finding new ones has gotten pretty difficult.

I stumbled on a load by accident quite some time ago. My older Rem 700 with a 12 twist just didn't like heavier bullets, never could get them much below MOA, which just isn't going to work when shooting chucks and ground squirrels at 400+ yards... I bought some Varget for another rifle and it didn't work out, so I tried it with the 22-250 and some 40 BT's and started immediately printing little bitty overlapping holes. A little pressure on the fore end of the stock and it is as good as it is ever going to get ..... the load of 39.5 grains came right off the powder canister and registered exactly what the label said it would over my Chrono- 4180 fps right on the money... really launches the chucks into orbit....

Bob

Tikkanut: I have been using Rifles in both 220 Swift and 22-250 Remington calibers, IN "Prairie Dog fields", VERY successfully for more than half a century now!
In fact right at 55 years - again, VERY successfully!
For you to say publicly something as ignorant and uninformed as you just did, damn near takes my breath away!
Do you have ANY idea how stupid you make yourself sound?
For Pete's sake man delete you bizarre and uninformed post before anymore people see it.
Sheesh - no, DOUBLE SHEESH.
Sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Lol varmint guy thinks someone other than himself is making themself look stupid.

Um, ok.

No less than our own John barsness himself has stated many times that recoil is cumulative and a 22-250 can feel uncomfortable after a while.

As usual varmint douche has missed the point in his clueless old man rambling and still doesn't know that most of think he is a dumbass (dumbass).

Sheesh. (Sheesh)

If you've been on a good p-dog hunt, you know the feeling at the end of the day. Headache from eye squint as well as from the muzzle blast. You're also getting bombarded by the sun and the wind usually. I'm talking a full day here. This is where the .223s and smaller shine. When you get into large bolt face stuff, it's going to wear you down. No, a .22-250 doesn't have much recoil. However, the cumulative effect of fatigue will take you off of your game.

It has been awhile since I’ve shot the prairie dog towns in Kansas, but 200-300 rounds of 22-250 (main gun), 100-200 rounds of 222 (secondary) and both 25-06 and 7mm rem mag for 40-50 a day were common. I never remember having recoil fatigue issues.

But you don't remember seeing your hits thru the scope , except for the 222, either....

read the other posts......field weight 22-250 or a Swift in an infested p/dog patch ?

Barrel will be as hot as the gates of hell.....

Experienced dog shooters know that....

Along with the noise & recoil....much better choices for 2-300 rd mornings in a p/dog patch

To say that a 22-250 is the best choice for a single gun on a good town would be ignorant. I agree.

To say a good 22-250 has no place on the same town with multiple guns available is just as ignorant.

I only shoot dogs abut 90 to 100 days a year and may not have the EXERIENCE tikkanut has. I can't remember the last time I shot dogs and only took 1 gun. Even when I fly to Colorado to shoot dogs I take at least 2 guns and often times a 22-250 or a 22 Dasher is one of the 2.

I've only entered 2 competitive dog shoots. 1 in Colorado before they made that illegal, Nucla / Naturita I won top male shooter, ( my deceased wife won top female shooter) we were both shooting Remington sponsored VS 22-250's, and one in Montana where my partner and I placed 2nd over all and won 1 of 2 portions of the competition. I shot a 22 Dasher for the most part in that comp.

Lots of experience on this board, lots of opinions as well, along with a few second hand opinions.

Good luck to the OP with his sale, and good shooting to all.

I believe that 22-250 is the ultimate varmint rifle. I also use .223 and 17 HMR for pdogs. I used to take my 25-06, but always leave at home anymore. Good shooting

I really like the 22-250. It's great for the long shots. I was shooting PD's near Amarillo, the rancher only allowed 22 LR's. I took my 22-250 one day when I knew the rancher would be there. I let him shoot it at a PD. From that day on 22-250's were allowed.
The 22-250 can be used for bigger game successfully too. You won't regret getting a 22-250, my opinion.

I like a 22-250, but I’d think a 223 would be better if you are shooting a bunch. Do PD shooters only shoot one rifle or have several to let the hot one cool. Maybe pour water down the barrel?? I’ve never been, sounds like a good time.

On my annual trip to Montana, I take 3 rifles to shoot the dogs, .223 for most of my shooting, 22-250 ai and a .243 loaded to 4000 FPS. I have never had a day where I shot over appx 300 rds from all combined.The .243 obviously has the most recoil and can get tiresome, but is the most fun, most explosive! Usually the sun and wind are more problematic than the recoil. As far as muzzle blast I shoot them all suppressed.

ALWAYS have at least two rifles, so you can shoot one while the other cools.

For dogs I would always have a .17 Rem in the mix, never would I want to shoot earsplittin loud n boomers all day long.

I used mine for deer. 1:8 twist for 80gr slugs.......
Of course our whitetail deer aren't all that at large.

All the time.
If your 22-250 kick you that hard, something else needs adjusted. ...Hold, weight, stance, load,.....My 10 year old grand kids watch the theatrics thru the scope. It's part of of the final step in training.
FOLLOW THOUGH.

Or 3 or more. A 223, 204 and 22-250 is how I roll.
As others have noted the 250 is night ideal for a one gun guy.

agree, have taken a ton with the 22-250 1-9 twist Berger 70gr

Well I certainly ain't getting rid of any of my 22.250s any time soon....

I'd never go out to do volume shooting all day and just use the 22.250

really stupid to shoot ONE gun all day, and thats what suppressers are for

After years and years of wasting ammo on the prairies of MT and ND I have tryed them all
There Was a time when the 22-250 was king when the shots wer long and the wind was blowing then I played with 6-250
At one time I had 5 of them set up only 4 now. I even built up a nice sako HB in 220 swift as the ultimate long range rifle
Well that faded away for just the reasons stated by others just too much blast. I run good efficient muzzle brakes zero recoil
There ok if shots are strung out like 50-100 rds day but personally I start blinking and can’t see the hit. I find I like shooting the 222 more
Then came along the 20 cal and it’s killed the 22-;250 foe me
I still have a bunch of rds loaded and have shot throug a 20 lb keg of powder and down to my last 500 rds but after shooting a 204 and 20 Tac all that ammo is getting a lot of miles riding back home the swift I hav never botherd to developer a load for it because I probbly won’t shoot it

suppressers solved those problems for sissy's

For several years my godson and I would meet up in Buffalo,WY with my friend and his two sons (all same or year apart) then shoot at a ranch about 35mi east of there. We used .223, .204, .22 mag, 224 TTH, 6mm Rem, 17 HMR. I made sure everyone did not shoot too fast, swapped out rifles, etc. Even doing that, one kid shot my custom 6mm a bit too fast and fire checked a bit of the throat. I sold that rifle before it lost accuracy, felt it was way too big for what we were doing. We never shot past 400yds, the 223 and 204 were great for that. Lots of fun though, watching those teens enjoying themselves!

I'm leaving for PD shooting in a couple of days with my cousins. I'll bring a 17 Hornet, a 204, a 223, a 22-250, and a 22-250AI. The ranges I expect will be 100 to 600 meters. I like the bigger guns for the longer distances. I'll also bring a Colt copy 45 Colt and the first chamber or two will be with a shot cartridge. It's been a while, but at times the rattle snakes can be disconcerting.

I’ve burned the barrels out on a couple of 22-250’s in dog towns…. And I’ll keep rebarrelling them ! They are superior in the wind to a 223. Too many times I’ve laid beside my brother or nephew while shooting a very accurate 223 while they were shooting 22-250’s and gotten outshot. I’ll walk back to the truck and grab a 22-250 and my hit percentage goes way up. No, its definitely not the ideal one gun for a dog shoot but it’s still a damned fine caliber. I also admit to building a 20P and LOVE that thing. Shoots as good in the wind as a22-250 and I can still see the hits or misses. I may put a break on it next time… yeah it’ll be noisy but I bet I’ll see the bullets hit. As far as coyote huntin… it’s hard to beat a 22-250. Period.

When I ran out of small rifle primers for my 223, I wished I had a 22-250 since I had tons of large rifle primers and .224 bullets. I shoot ground squirrels and coyotes mostly and go through a ton of ammo.

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Nothing against the 22-250. However it’s way more muzzle blast, barrel heat and recoil than other very suitable PD rifles. I had and sold both the 22-250 and 220 swift in heavy barrel varminters. They worked fine, but with the negative attributes mentioned above, I’ll take the 204R, 223, 17 Rem, 17FB, any day, in a PD town.

Have both the 22-250 and the swift they are great in their own place. That place doesn't include fast action high volume dog shoots in a big town. For that environment 223 is hard to beat
Any barrel can be burned out and there is no need for it. Cost of casings is a factor favoring the 223 and it s recoil that let's you keep the dog in your field of view. A few good dog shoots will teach anyone that. .
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