Figured this might be a good idea as a place to see what everyone is blowin to pieces and what they are using to create the pieces. Post your pictures and stories here!
I finally broke the ice this evening. We had a big bbq out at my grandparents and I got an early start on thinning out the gophers in and around the yard for our wedding this summer. Also have a badger that dug a hole about 20 yards from that house that I need to assassinate. I killed 5 or 6 tonight but only took pics of these. We are headin up to the ranch tomorrow to do a recon mission and see what is out up there.
Killed both with my Marlin 981T 22lr. Cant use anything much bigger due to other houses, horses, cows etc around the area.
Just found out that the renter up at the ranch has seen a couple wolves multiple times. He saw them right in the hedge row right behind the house(dark spot in the middle of the pic I sent you the other day) yesterday evening. One was black and the other gray. Why couldnt this have been a couple weeks ago!?
I was a guest of a fellow forum member over in Klamath County Oregon on the California line today...weren't as many as we hoped for this morning...
did get a probable on a rock chuck...my host, Andrew had to leave about 1:30...
about 2 PM tho, they started coming out all over the wood work..
gotta get back into the zone, but after 100 rounds or so in a couple of hours, I was getting back into it..
at first was just winging them.... but finally started to get that highly desired red mist...
got home and managed to get sunburned today...but had a good time..
thanks again to Andrew ( ACLakey) for having me over...
Sorry I had to leave so early but I had a great time. Come back in a few weeks and the little ones will be out and the alfalfa will be greened up....then the killing will begin.
What's the 22RF ammo of choice? I've got such a mish mash of rimfire ammo I need to look at just picking a couple different ones and just stock up. The Federal bulk seems to be as good as anything for general shooting but what about Velocitor vs Stinger, does one work better than the other on gophers?
Not really. Unless you step up to the Stinger type stuff, but that's too pricey for real volume shooting.
I bought a case of some stuff from the Bitterroot this year and dumped half of it into a zombie can. I have four 10/22's to feed, so commonality is more important than anything else. As long as they hold minute of gopher to 50-75yds, you're good.
I think it depends upon the rifle you shoot... Andrew had a really nice 10.22 package... I was starting off with a Model94/22 with a 6 power Weaver on top...which is real accurate...
shooting gophers with a 22 LR tho, wasn't a real thrill...I like my CZ which can head shoot them...then they flop around like a fish all over the place...
I winged one yesterday with the 223, and went out to look at it, and it was still alive, so I put the rifle barrel right above its head and fired and it still flopped around like a fish even that close...
did the same thing to another one, this time using a 17HMR... and it flopped around like a fish also...
neither round still motivates me shooting little squeakers...no fun for me personally...
the 10/22 of Andrew's, along with his simple set up of stool and cross sticks makes a good practical set up...
early in the season, but as always, their was tons of 17 HMR brass gleaming the sun back at you all over the fields we were on...
gotta admit, if the 17 HMR was $5.00 a box, I'd shoot a lot more of it...
...that flopping around like a fish, we've coined that "flipperin'". One day out shooting 'dogs with a friend there was a marginally hit one doing it's best to flop it's way back to it's hole. My buddy couldn't quite spit out the correct word for it and it came out "git that flipperin' one". It was so funny at the time I couldn't shoot for laughin'. The term stuck and is still good for a laugh.
Checked out the ranch this morning. We(my two brothers and I) shot probably 50-60 in an hour or so. Still will be a couple weeks before the rest start comin out. I was shootin my 77/17 Mach 2 and 22-250, younger bro was shootin a 22 mag, and youngest bro was shootin his Anchutz 17 Mach 2.
My 22-250
Result of a 50gr Btip to the face. Just his head was stickin out of the hole.
Nice! I only saw 2, up here, we're usually a little behind. But one the first shot on the first gopher of the season my son opened one up with an Aguila out of my 10/22.
Nice! Brothers were pissin me off and wouldnt let me get out to shoot the 22-250 much. Shot a few more with it but couldnt find them for a picture. Next time Im bringin my 4 wheeler trailer with a shooting table of some sort and blastin away. I get tired of driving through badger holes after about 5 mins. Id rather sit and shoot and then move if needed instead of cruisin the whole place.
That is my style as well. Benches and LR sniping. Although both are fun and I try to do some of each on each outing. My Avalanche interior is FULL of 22LR and 22WMR empties rollin and rattlin 'round
This is something my Dad has always wanted to do. Now that he's retired, I hope to put something together for him! Is there public land or landowners that would be receptive to hunters?
I dont know about Washington but most farmers/ranchers will let guys shoot. Considering the person asking, ground conditions, etc. It sounds really bad but the way a person looks/acts says alot about how that person might treat another persons property.
This is something my Dad has always wanted to do. Now that he's retired, I hope to put something together for him! Is there public land or landowners that would be receptive to hunters?
Down this way its not that hard to find places to shoot..
don't know how far you are up in Washington...but I am sure there are places to be lined up easily in NE Oregon also..
This is something my Dad has always wanted to do. Now that he's retired, I hope to put something together for him! Is there public land or landowners that would be receptive to hunters?
over here its not hard to get permission for gophers(technically Richardson's ground squirrels).....prairie dogs can be hit or miss and at this point i dont have permission for any private land towns but their lil cousins are so common i dont spend any real time looking for prairie dog towns to shoot over.....
gophers tear up gravel roads pretty good and most farmer/ranchers like them thinned out....in high school(late 90's) my buddies and i had access to a dozen ranches and it was preferred if we showed up as often as possible....
We live about an hour and a half from Portland. My inlaws are in PDX, so we are in Oregon quite a bit. My Dad's retired now, so he can go whenever. Finding time to do a knock and talk would probably be the best thing. It would just suck to be unproductive because its a long trip otherwise.
PM sent, with my phone number. Call me after Church today and I will help you with some specifics. Plenty to go around! Several guys from here at 24hrcf have pm'ed me wanting help, there is NO shortage of good places to shoot or targets. I have been considering going into the guided varmint hunt business but for now I think I will just take guys from here for just some help with travel expenses to get to the killing fields and back because that is my limitation these days, lots of time but no gas money. Also need help lifting bags of ammo, shooting benches etc due to my health. I Especially want to take those from here who are taking a kid or a Dad. I have a soft spot for such things
BTW i got my first gopher of the season.......but i used the wifes GMC Yukon XL and smoked it on Highway 2 over by Browning MT this morning hope to head out to my uncles after work tomorrow 22 in hand and see whats out....
I got about 20 Richardson's in mid Feb -- males were just coming out. We've had plague so the populations are a fraction of what they once were. I have to hunt for them now.
My favorite 22 LR shell is the WW Power Point. A bit more accurate and it hits harder than most as it's a 40 grain with a huge hollow point.
Big time, I learned long ago to get out and do my scouting and landowner relationship work and find my spots all on my own. I do not like to rely on others to do things for me.
One of my best finds "field of dreams" is something like 36 sections of contigous pd's. I find it worth the time and effort to get out and never consider it a waste of time if it's a dry run.
I have a fair number of chuck colony's that I found the hard way as well. My best summer was 431 chucks or something like that. It was a bit rough on the old 7 Mag tube....grin
Sheridan: we just got about 350 of them west of your position by a tad...
Shooting is slow so far...still a bit early.
drove almost the length of the Hiline yesterday as we went to Kalispel this weekend for the state Walleyes Unlimited banquet.....the drive home was rough, saw plenty of gophers and i hadnt thrown a gun in the Yukon before leaving cause we had a full load as friends went with us
Sheridan: we just got about 350 of them west of your position by a tad...
Shooting is slow so far...still a bit early.
drove almost the length of the Hiline yesterday as we went to Kalispel this weekend for the state Walleyes Unlimited banquet.....the drive home was rough, saw plenty of gophers and i hadnt thrown a gun in the Yukon before leaving cause we had a full load as friends went with us
lol...will work on getting up there for a day this summer.......course you could bring the kids down and meet the lot of us for a weekend on Fort Peck aswell...
will let yah know, usually start heading up there regularly mid May.....usuallly 3 families are camping together and though our kids are older than yours a couple more running around wont matter....
Its been pretty nasty around here. Cold, snowy, and windy so gophers havent been out much. Shot a few earlier in the week while out feedin animals at the ranch. Its supposed to be warmer this week but of course wind comes with it.
Went out to the range today to shoot some test loads. I was in the middle of shootin a group when I caught something moving out of the corner of my eye. I looked over and two male gophers were rollin around fighting less than 10 feet from me. The loser gave up and ran right towards me and I couldnt see him anymore. I failed to notice the hole right under the bench. I looked under the bench and he was about a foot away from my foot.
Tried to stomp him and he ran off to a hole about 10 yards away. I loaded up a 95gr Btip in my 243 and waited. He came out and stood proud and then some how took flight.
I lost the other one but eventually he came back out also. I loaded up a 140gr Fusion in my 7mm-08 and from about 10 feet away, he grew wings and exploded also. He took a 140gr does of Extenze and grew a little. lol This is how far he flew from the hole...he is straight back from the hole
Here they are after their little dispute was settled...I think its safe to say they are now BFF's lol
Here they are after their little dispute was settled...I think its safe to say they are now BFF's lol
Hard to tell which one was more effective.
Looks like the actual cause of death may have been severe trauma combined with fairly massive blood loss. Course you'd need a coroner to be more specific.
I killed a ground squirrel with my bow a few days back, does that count.
Someday I hope to do some varmint shooting like you guys are lucky to be able to do.
It only counts if there's massive carnage.
Three years ago I had found some local places to shoot squirrels on people's property. I had a .17hmr with an 8-32x scope on it. The ones we were shooting were between us and a little pond so our longest shots were 125 yards and shortest at about 60. With the big scope shooting off a rest I was making really neat head shots that were relatively clean compared to the body stomach shots my friend was making a mess with.
I was telling him I wasn't going to pick his up to put them in a bucket anymore, they were too messed up to pick up. He told me to stop being a puzzy and start seeing what massive carnage shots were all about. So okay, I started making stomach shots when I could have just as easily been making neat head shots.
I killed a ground squirrel with my bow a few days back, does that count.
Someday I hope to do some varmint shooting like you guys are lucky to be able to do.
It only counts if there's massive carnage.
Three years ago I had found some local places to shoot squirrels on people's property. I had a .17hmr with an 8-32x scope on it. The ones we were shooting were between us and a little pond so our longest shots were 125 yards and shortest at about 60. With the big scope shooting off a rest I was making really neat head shots that were relatively clean compared to the body stomach shots my friend was making a mess with.
I was telling him I wasn't going to pick his up to put them in a bucket anymore, they were too messed up to pick up. He told me to stop being a puzzy and start seeing what massive carnage shots were all about. So okay, I started making stomach shots when I could have just as easily been making neat head shots.
When I hit Oregon sage rats that have been eating wet alfalfa with my cute little .243 WSSM loaded with Varmint Grenades, there wasn't anything to pick up! Never saw such carnage, they literally disappeared into specks of red goo. Rat parts, soil fragments and bullet shrapnel cut a neat tunnel into the standing alfalfa like a tunnel boring machine. Never saw anything like it. Never thought about picking up the dead that don't disappear, as the eagles and hawks do clean up duty.
went out this morning before the wind kicked up......need to find new killing grounds, actually have finally succeeded in seriously thinning out those at my uncles....only had about a dozen killed in 90 minutes.....10 years ago woulda been 4 times that.....
Same-o here! Whenever "greenies" ask what we are going to do, I refer to it as a " Raptor Feeding Symposium"...not ONE has made the connection, even when I elaborate by telling them we see to it that meat is evenly distributed for the raptors to eat... I guess they think it comes out of a styro-package...
I don't doubt that. Some of those guys are so clueless it actually IS funny.
I just paid for an Argentina hunt and (today) a pair of Swarovski binos so my "bullet budget" is as dead as Obama's campaign for a while. Looks like .22s for hawk feeding for the rest of the summer...
Stag, fallow, blackbuck, boar and (if time allows) high volume dove. I have a woody just thinking about it and its still a year out...assuming the mayans were wrong.
Yep, I'm super-duper stoked. All free range and I can kill any stag I choose, big or small, for the same price. No extra charge because he's gold medal or whatever. I paid more for my South African hunt than this trip too. Win win.
Till then I have to shoot prarie dogs and fish the Flaming Gorge to keep myself content...
Sounds like a good trip. If you don't mind a guy asking, what does a trip like that run? I'd like to give something like that a try and this summer is shaping up to be a good one on the roof (a little extra play money).
All said and done, with plane tickets and shipping of trophies back home, I will have about 8 grand into this. I stumbled across a stag and boar hunt for $3450, plus trophy fees for any other animals I desire (which in this case is blackbuck and fallow deer). I am going with an outfit who a friend went with a couple years ago and really liked. Be smart about things, like get European mounts instead of full shoulder mounts and don't get hung up on "expensive" critters and these trips are less than a guy would think. A passport and airline approved gun case would be needed as well, but I already have those so those are not an expense this time.
For instance, I am not shooting an axis deer because they are 2 grand plus, and their antlers are not real special (I do like their coats though). Same reason I didn't shoot a nyala in Africa. The "money to horn" ratio isn't good. If a particular critter floats your boat, fine, but don't go crazy with several "expensive" critters.
As awesome as Alaskan moose antlers are, the trophy fee alone is way more than this entire trip.
cheaper the just shoot an axis in Texas......want one cause the coat is cool and heard from many they are about the best tasting critter, but one can be had free range in Texas for less than $2k....
anyway, sounds like a neat trip, cant wait to see the pics....kinda would like to do Argentina cause its one of the few places with huntable Pere' Davids deer....wild antlers on those guys....
Just got back from the killing fields, did all my shooting with a .222 and a .204...and did not take any pics of blown up gophs to post ( just my choice...) however, a good time was had by all, except those with buck teeth...
A couple scenes...
the .204 works on Jacks...might be bad news this easter....
Well Easter is going to be a little late this year...
thanks to Ingwe, they have to recruit and train another Easter Bunny!
glad my kid is old enough, that he's off the Easter Bunny's list anymore... otherwise, he'd be disappointed like the rest of the kids in the country will be.....
Saw another egg stasher headed for the house. This time I 204'ed him like ingwe. His basket went ass over tea-kettle when the 40 grainer entered his brisket. Friggen colored eggs everywhere......Good thing I stopped him before he got close to the yard......
You guys are sick. I kind of like you. I like the term "Flipperin' ". We call it "Doin' The Chicken" or a "Boogey Woogey Shot'. (Coined by my son when he was about seven.)
Our sagerats (Beldings Ground Squirrels) are up in force. Now that I'm taking hunters out, I don't get to shoot as many as I normally would but I get as big a kick out of watching others launch them as I do launching them myself. When I do shoot... a .204 with 39 gr SBK's and a .17 HMR with Hornady 17 gr V-maxes. When the little ones come out the first of May, .22's rule.
Rockchucks--.243AI releasing 105 gr Bergers. Had a called hit at 1018 yards last week but couldn't find it. No Body, No Count. But, it was fun anyway. We limit our early season RC's to 1000 yards or better. We don't have that many so it makes it pretty easy on the resource.
Sounds like you MT boys are doing more GS's than PD's? Love to go back to Wyoming and kill some PD's again. That's my kind of vacation!
How's that 981 servin' you? Got a good mind to trade in my Jam O' Mattic savage 64 and get one. Does she get good groups? Don't mean to thread steal but it's hard to find info on these.
The trek to the Goose lake area on the California/Oregon border was an annual trip for a long time and I miss it a bunch, can remember one year going through 3500 .22lr in 4 days with probably 80% hits. We thought we might shot out some fields but some buddies hit the same field a week later and could not tell we had ever been there.
I still think the best launches I have seen were the 110vmax out of the .308 or 30-06.
I've been waiting for the damned weather to clear to be able to go over again... it has been constant rain for 30 plus days now...
I sure hope the Forest Circus is happy as a clam, as their favorite pasttime in their Chicken Little World is running around all spring and summer with their hair on fire, screaming "Fire Season Fire Season!!!"....
I have been hitting them hard since March out here. I have been out 7 times so far & a tad under 1300 rounds lower. Just like last year making free dinner bites for coyotes & badgers. I need to keep up on my reloading, but still have 3300 rounds at the ready. Its nice that I only drive 35 miles to be in the center of them by myself.
As of last Monday, 7 days ago, Not really fully up and around just yet in NE Oregon. Got a few, but not the hundreds we usually get there. Planning on trying again this Saturday with a couple of guys from here.
A good 'ol Marlin 39 of any vintage is a good 22 to have. Stupid accurate and it carries easy on those days you feel more like you're deer hunt'n than varmit hunt'n...
...that flopping around like a fish, we've coined that "flipperin'". One day out shooting 'dogs with a friend there was a marginally hit one doing it's best to flop it's way back to it's hole. My buddy couldn't quite spit out the correct word for it and it came out "git that flipperin' one". It was so funny at the time I couldn't shoot for laughin'. The term stuck and is still good for a laugh.
We call it "Trouting" like when you pull a trout out of the water and onto the bank. eg.- "Hey, he's troutin'" or "He's doin the trout!"
Well, don't know if piney[red] squirrels count in this thread, but here in Indiana they are unregulated, and pretty much considered a pest. My buddy's woods/pond area is lousy with them. Heres 2-3 pics of ones I managed to get with my little H&R Sportster 22 LR. I won't even tell you how many I missed, except to say they are fast little boogers.
For those of you who don't know, they are about the size of those 13 sriped ground squirrels. Here in hoosierdom, we call em gophers.
Pretty cool maddog...I didnt know they were unregulated there...good deal, if I was there Id be hunting sqwuirrels year round....its one of my favorite things. And oh, yeah, the Bubba Buddy is skooum..
Can you make me one for my .222 that holds a thousand rounds?
I saw a BIG JackRabbit at the end of the day while coming in out of the field... it was running thru the brush... how high its head was I thought it was a lab at first...
one of those Jackalopes they talk about????
didn't take any pics as the wife had the camera today... as it was prom night for Seafire jr...
late start and got over to Klamath at 2PM.... however from then to about 7 PM, I manage to get off about between 850 and 900 rounds via the 10/22...
interesting thing tho, in the next 15 minutes I killed 12 + sage rats, that were climbing on top of a dead seagull... don't know what for... but this was at about 75 yds, so they presented a good target for the 10/22... so Bang...
lotta "pups" out.. many of which found out they were in for a short existence.....by I had multiple holes where I had 3 to 5 dead sage rats around the same hole...
AC Lakey and his family had been out shooting before 1 PM, and I am sure they got a lot of them...but so did I in the afternoon and early evening... and I left with zillions still out there...
Yeah, there were plenty out yesterday. We took a couple hundred a piece which made for a good day for sure. The little ones are defiantly out which made for some fun, as Seafire said you could usually get four or five off the same mound before they figured things out. Yesterday I went to the same spot with some friends and had a similar day. Today would be another epic outing but I have other obligations. This is a fun time of the year for sure!
Thanks, dober. I had one previously and traded it toward an AR back about '78-'79. Missed it ever since. So, I picked up a nib one last year and put 'er in a HS stock. Been replacing guns I regret selling, the last couple years. 63 s&w, colt peacemaker, 1911, marlin lever,and the 600......
Don't tell anybody this, but I tripped one of those Marlin lever .22 thingy's with no safety and they call it a Mountie or something? Anyway, this is what I bought with the money.
I had fun No problems with any gear, great weather, the company wasnt too bad The numbers were down but between the three of us we still managed to kill more then a few, we werent keeping a body count but the I'd say well over 100 but I'd guess 200 would be pushing it. Wade had the camera so we'll have to wait for him to post any pictures.
PS. Safariman, thanks a bunch for haveing us over again this year I realy had a good time.
Where the hell you get those up in the desolate north?
Not as bad as microwave pork rinds...
Our IGA's beer selection is second to none. And for what could be the third time in my life, I'm not joking.
Sierra Nevada absolutely my favorite. You guys out west need to get you some Southern Pecan from Sweet Magnolia if you like that stuff. I will make you drive down here for a refill
I had fun No problems with any gear, great weather, the company wasnt too bad The numbers were down but between the three of us we still managed to kill more then a few, we werent keeping a body count but the I'd say well over 100 but I'd guess 200 would be pushing it. Wade had the camera so we'll have to wait for him to post any pictures.
PS. Safariman, thanks a bunch for haveing us over again this year I realy had a good time.
Safe to say a grand time was had by all bipedal mamilians.
I really think that 200 is closer to the correct body count.
Best of luck. I found a great place Saturday, but holy Toledo, a lot of my best spots are completely dried up.
Travis
Sounds like a real glory hole. Sorry to hear about the dried up spots. They heal with time. When you're able to hit it again try Kennedy's in Harlem. A short drive and new prospects.
DT: wind was blowin' like normal...about 20 mph.... Gophs all gave up and went under at noon...wtf? Some were gathering nest building stuf so I suspect they are undergournd nesting....
Winnie: looks like you got more accomplished today with that bow that Turdcutter is able to prove...
How's that 981 servin' you? Got a good mind to trade in my Jam O' Mattic savage 64 and get one. Does she get good groups? Don't mean to thread steal but it's hard to find info on these.
I have a 981TR. I hit 8 of 9 shots on sage rats at 160 yards yesterday with no rest or bipod (The miss was my fault - wind). It will hit shotgun shells at 200 yards and I have made a couple of one shot hits on a quarter at 200 yards.
Like all 22's, you have to match your ammunition to the barrel. Also, I had to bed the receiver (The synthetic stock comes with pillars)to get this accuracy. Most shoot 2-4" groups at 100 yards out of the box. Bedding the receiver will reduce a 2" group to 1.25". The Model TR like mine can be made more accurate than the T by bedding the tube. A group of 4" indicates uneven barrel expansion and you have about a 50-50 chance of buying one in this factory made condition. Mine shot 4" out of the box but I applied the fix.
Bedding is for flowers, plastic is for toys, stainless steel is for sinks...It all means nothing if the gun doesn't look good and then turn the critters into soup...
The wind REALLY picked up here this afternoon. Glad I didnt take the boat out!
Originally Posted by ingwe
Werent as many gophs on the front either...this must be a down year in their cycle...
I think that might be the case this year. Although, a couple more weeks time could change that. Seems this time of year there are usually more out though. Babies should be coming out in a 2-3 weeks Went and got my boat from the rance a couple weeks ago and brought little bro with our 17HM2s. We drove all over the big field and probably only shot 30 or so. Their numbers were nothing like usual.
Seafire: there was lots of that going on, but for whatever reason, I don't want to post pics of disarticulated pieces....trust me, it was hard enough to find those five that were still relatively intact enough for a photo
Seafire: there was lots of that going on, but for whatever reason, I don't want to post pics of disarticulated pieces....trust me, it was hard enough to find those five that were still relatively intact enough for a photo
Going all PETA on us huh?
no worries...
Simple explanation: you're a gentleman.. I'm not...
Doesn't weather influence the point of impact when you use a wood stock? What year did they stop using wood stocks?
Travis
Who cares about weather, point of impact is all that matters. When you have Palsy, you have every shootable target covered at one time or another. They haven't stopped making wood stocks, they just don't ship any to Havre because of the type of person buyng guns up there would just burn the stock for warmth anyhow.
Oh, and another thing about cycles, they have 2 wheels...
Cycles with rabbits and gophers is like cutting the end of your roast before you roast it, a total myth. Any small game blaster worth his salt knows that regardless of weather, April is the worst month for shooting these harmless creatures.
They are nesting now and having babies, May will blossom with a new crop of critters that will make you wonder why you even wondered...
Not the spots I'm seeing. Them fellers are g-o-n-e gone.
Travis
O.K. Smarty, try a few miles east of Havre, like up around Turner. I will bet you a six pack of skunky beer, that any gophers you aren't seeing are still there, or blown farther east due to the wonderful winds you guys endure in that Highline paradise...
next time you are over this way for your dog training stuff in Phoenix... drop down to Ashland then... they'll love ya!
just remember to bring your Birkenstocks.. and have an Obama 2012 on your Luggage..... and I can guarantee ya, you'll end up getting lucky with a 60 something year old hippie chick or two...
Not the spots I'm seeing. Them fellers are g-o-n-e gone.
Travis
O.K. Smarty, try a few miles east of Havre, like up around Turner. I will bet you a six pack of skunky beer, that any gophers you aren't seeing are still there, or blown farther east due to the wonderful winds you guys endure in that Highline paradise...
I'm not being a smart ass. I do shoot in Turner and around Hogeland. The numbers are way down. I'm not comparing the last part of May in 2011 to the last part of April 2012. This is an apples to apples comparison and the numbers are down.
Nope, I got it stuck in the garden trying to pull out the roto-tiller, I am going to have to wait for dryer weather to get it out.
I was thinking that maybe they could move that shoot down to Reed Point, where I will be turkey hunting, then after first light and filling my turkey tag, I could dazzle you guys with some of my shooting prowess and my 1903-A3...
No, they are managed as a trophy fish in the gorge. A limit of 8 and only 1 can be over 24 inches.
Burbot/ling on the other hand MUST be killed if caught. Signs posted at most access points make it very clear. I pulled 2 ling through the ice this year that were 32" plus. They are a realitively new exotic and are growing like shrooms in chit with all the food in that res.
Lakers are quite good, at least the ones around here are. Some people say they are oily but I have not found that to be true.
Ling are equally as good. Strange considering the rotted crap they eat. Kind of like catfish.
Strange how in fish we people eat the predators/scavangers and turn our noses up at the plant eaters like carp (at least in civilized countries), but in terrestrial critters it is reversed. I'm throwing up just thinking about preferring coyote steak to elk steak.
Holy Crap its dry over here. I have only seen a few babies out and that is only where the grass is relatively close to water and growing good. Everything else up here is crunchy. If we dont get rain we are screwed.
DT: We just made a big loop through Browning, then on to Chester, then back around to Augusta...the numbers are low, didnt see very many young ones, and it is dry....however the alfalfa is getting high enough to hide the gophs, and the wheat will be there in a couple weeks. The best part of the season is almost over and a quick count says I only shot about 1450 rounds of centerfire, and a couple hundred rimfires....thats a slow week, let alone most of a season....
DT: We just made a big loop through Browning, then on to Chester, then back around to Augusta...the numbers are low, didnt see very many young ones, and it is dry....however the alfalfa is getting high enough to hide the gophs, and the wheat will be there in a couple weeks. The best part of the season is almost over and a quick count says I only shot about 1450 rounds of centerfire, and a couple hundred rimfires....thats a slow week, let alone most of a season....
No doubt. I hardly shot any at all. There are a bunch of baby gophs in the school yard at the school I work at in Conrad. My finger gets itchy every time I see them. I guess its creek fishin time <grin>
Killed about 200+ squeakers last few days with 2 other guys. Shooting in southern oregon. They were everywhere! My fiocchi 40gr .223 vmax is devastating on them lol
Had a good squeek season here in Northeastern Calif. Numbers were not as high as last year, but still damn good. Lol I would include pictures but everytime I get extra money for a camera I buy a rifle instead. Ed
The sun reflected off the aviators and confused it. Then it realized it was about to be shot buy a dude running around the prairie in boxers. So it shcit it's guts out in a last act of defiance.
The sun reflected off the aviators and confused it. Then it realized it was about to be shot buy a dude running around the prairie in boxers. So it shcit it's guts out in a last act of defiance.
Nice cover. But we both know you raped it to death. Savage...
Nothing special really -- just a factory 700 SPS 223 bedded and pillared in a Remington Sporter McSwirly (60 orange, 20 gray, 20 black). Scope is Leupold VX2 3-9x40 CDS.
Put a new stock on the .22 a week or so back, and had to get it bloody. Got more chickmumps (or as bodei would say, Ictidomys tridecemlineatus'es).....
I can see what you mean by the blood and gut photos. I have a couple pics of a trapped coon with an arrow sticking in its side, as well as a few others that I have no desire to show.
I hate being nonchalant about my hunting to appease the hippies, but I also won't go out of my way to give them fuel.
was that here in So Oregon, over near Klamath or in No California... the terrain looks strikingly familiar....
so do the results...
great video... and especially liked the American Flag and eagle at the end...
last time Iron Eagle and I went out, we had an Eagle over across the field that seemed to be in the same spot for hours...didn't seem to move, so talk about patience..
he was still the entire time, I actually walked over toward it to see if it was a decoy to scare away the sage rats from a water pump over there...
it stayed almost perfectly still as I walked about 500 yds or so across the field to verify one way or the other...it took wing when I got about 100 yds from it...
but it had seemed almost perfectly still for almost 3 hours...
Yeah, its between KFalls and Macdoel. Lots of eagles around there. I wanna hit the rock chucks next time. I shot four different areas this year and all four were outstanding.
funny thing is, I missed. But the shockwave and ensueing craterization of his immediate area, seemed to do the trick. kinda like a battleships 16 inch shell landing next to ya......
I shot a rattler from about 2 feet away with a .38 special shotshell. Blew a baseball sized crater full of dust where his head was...
Problem was..I missed too! The pattern must have gone all around, but not on him. When he pulled his head out of that dust crater, let me tell you, he was open for business!
I have a question for you, what 22lr round do you use for varmints?
My rabbit was taken using a 36 grain plated hollow point, the hole you see is the exit. I want something that will blow the crap out of squirrels.
22 Magnum froom my PMR30 makes some NASTY holes and gut bombs, but you cannot buy those or own them in Californication due to the 30 round magazine. Since you already had a mega sweet 22LR revolver, might shoulda got its twin, perhaps with a longer barrel, in 22WMR. THEN we would be talkin some hole damage. But then there would be less rabbit left to eat, and them is GOOD eatin. My 22WMR blows the squirrels nearly in half <G>
All progress in the developement of varmint cartridges reached its all time perfection and pinnacle with the introduction of the 222 Remington. Someday ya'll will see the light and enter varmint shooting nirvannah.
nirvana is mighty fine, but orgasmic nirvana 'feels' better.....the 204 was developed just for that ejaculative reason.
Yes. The .17 Rem and .222 are the calibers that pampered great white hunters sit around discussing in smoking rooms with a Cuban and brandy, while they tell you how great it was, back in the day. The .204 is a rock star. You don't wanna hear how many he abused last night and today looks the same.
No, no no.... The 204 is the wannab look alike Rocks star who brags about what or who he did but is actally lying like a dog. The REAL rock star is the 22-250AI- Abuser of little critters extrodiaire. His uglier big brother, also an abuser of mighty sorts is the 22 Cheetah aka 22/243
No, no no.... The 204 is the wannab look alike Rocks star who brags about what or who he did but is actally lying like a dog. The REAL rock star is the 22-250AI- Abuser of little critters extrodiaire. His uglier big brother, also an abuser of mighty sorts is the 22 Cheetah aka 22/243
Now you are sounding like a Leonetti's sipper.......
No, no no.... The 204 is the wannab look alike Rocks star who brags about what or who he did but is actally lying like a dog. The REAL rock star is the 22-250AI- Abuser of little critters extrodiaire. His uglier big brother, also an abuser of mighty sorts is the 22 Cheetah aka 22/243
Now you are sounding like a Leonetti's sipper.......
Originally Posted by ingwe
Nope...the .204 IS a Rock Star...and I'm a groupie...
Pendleton bourbon or a plain lime MArgarita for me,
22-250 does rock. I have one, in "sucks". I do like a little "mist" in the weeds at times. Wish it was AI. Will be some time when this barrel is toast.
Nope...the .204 IS a Rock Star...and I'm a groupie...
so ya got a 204 running 32 VMAXEs at 4200 fps...
and then I got where I can run 35 grain NTXs at 4200 also out of a 223...and an AI or 22.204 might be able to pump that up some more....with a bullet that is longer than a 32 grain V Max...
I still say a 223 has more choices available and with the right bullets equal a 204...
plus with an Ingwe painted stock... I say they would be equal!
I'm deeply hurt that you guys didn't have the common courtesy to congratulate me on the new 'World Record Largest Prairie Dog Ever'. I think he'll out-score the one that's advertized all the way across Kansas on I-70.....
See if I ever pat you suckers on the back for YOUR trophy kills.
Guess I better go find a needy family that wants a years supply of fresh meat for the freezer.......
while on the subject, do folks consider goats the enemy in your neck? I think there is genuine grower hate here. Hay growers anyway. When asking permission it's usually "shoot them all".
I've been too damn busy chasing these things around to bother much with varmits. I wish there were rock chucks around here...I'd be way more interested in chasing them around instead of burning $100 worth of diesel to go play with forest grouse. I never thought I would say it, but I miss the Bitterroot's hunting, though I see more elk around here on any given weekend than I will see all season actually looking for them in the Bitterroot.
I dont usually even take gory pics, but i was cleaning my camera, and it went off, so I saved the pic for just this occasion, and for gulo. I harvested this noble game animal is as a humane way as I could...I vaporized his entrails...
Figured this might be a good idea as a place to see what everyone is blowin to pieces and what they are using to create the pieces.
You might want to tone this sort of talk down. As a life-long hunter, I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt you're not doing any of us any favors.
Tell Ingrid Newkirk and Sarah Mclachlan "Hello and GFY" when you guys are done discussing these photos that all our crippled cows and broken front shocks asked me to post
Good stuff! You know guys, I shoot plenty of varmints, too. I could take plenty of pics like this as well, and the scene doesn't bother me at all, after all, i've seen people in the same condition. All I am suggesting is that, as they taught us in combat, only an idiot puts ammunition in the lap of the enemy.
I couldn't find a rodent this afternoon, to save my azz. Did see this little bug-eating varmint darting around the prairie, tho. At first, I figgered to cotch him and put him in a jar, as a pet. After a fruitless and wind-sucking chase and tripping over the dog into a yucca, I finally decided he got the best of me. As we were both catching our wind, I unlimbered the pistoly and let one fly from about 10 feet. The result surprised the heck outta both of us, him more than me......grin
I wish I was video'ed during the capture attempt, from first dodging and darting in failed attempts to grab him, to then dancing and chasing going for the stomp, to ending the ordeal by cheating from distance.....
purty proud of the headshot, whilst outta breath and heaving....
You haven't seen the 'great northward push' of chickmumps either, have ya? I reckon not.....Mainly because my job, is to keep the buggers in check and to keep them from moving north to bother my nieces in bozeman and helena. They's askeered of rodents......The pickin's are getting slim. Only one chickmump today, but the gals is safe from scary dreams yet again.....
I'm just 'wacky' enuff to not want to walk the prairie with a bench and stool on my back. That said, I'm a weenie so I don't mind packing stix....and a milk stool if the cactus is bad.
At least you didnt show any cacti with their pithy guts scattered all over the place...
Yes, I admit to killing cacti in my younger days. Since I switched to Barnes I only wound them and they live to splatter carnage over another day. We all know coppers don't kill schitt.
This-un had his domicile decorated with skulls and bones for halloween. Musta been the neighborhood haunted house. Oh well, now there will be more blood, guts and bones available to spook all the little trick-o-treaties....
We're stocking up for squirrel pie... Ordinarily we'd drop 'em in the Fry Daddy, but we've got a big family shindig next weekend so we figured we'd donate a squirrel pot-pie, or two depending on how many we can kill!
Nash is still ducking his head for that little discretion. He was lectured long and hard about the questionable character displayed by those types of people who will shoot eating squirrels with shot. (nearly blind old men with single shots are excused} He has assured me that from here on he will only be using .22s, traditional black-powder rifles, or his bow. It always pays to keep right after these boys in these matters.
Just stumbled onto this thread. Lack of hay cutting this year killed my groundhog hunting. This was a video I shot in the spring and a picture of one of the last groundhogs I shot with the 243win this year at 350yds followed by one of the first at 311yds. The others are with the 17rem I was breaking in. I guess the varminting will be over for me until next April except for a few grey squirrels here and there. Hopefully I can pistol whip a few next week with the MKII Ruger.
A few with the 17rem Model 7 after coyote hunting. All three were taken off the sticks with the bottom one getting a head shot at 98yds.
Ben, that looks yummy. What are the green things in it? I had some green things hanging out of this mornings bounty. Somehow, its not as appetizing as yours....
In March, Cedarville Chamber of Commerce actually has a shindig where folks can go out and shoot them, while the town and citizens open up opportunities....
once you know a few folks, usually a phone call that you are coming over is all it takes...
Ft Bidwell is also crawling thick with the little varmints...
Up there it is usually stop and ask..., see a property crawling with them, go knock on the door and ask.. people are pretty friendly... and they definitely want to get rid of them...
don't be a slob and get a phone number for return visits and you're good to go..
Upsman, I live in Modoc County. It is easy to find a place to shoot almost anywhere in the county, even the northern part of Lassen County. See squeek, knock and ask, or go to the local coffee shops and ask if anyone knows places to shoot. Go to Calif. Pred. Forum and ask there. I have made many posts on the subject (Modoc Squeek Shooter). ED
What do you do,,, pen raise those dam things? Our Gofers went under two months ago.
You're gonna love that cartridge but that stock's gotta go. Any luck finding one yet? I wonder if a good sanding and some dark stain would cover that green?
Pen raise? No, I live on a ranch that was infested with them.
Emphasis on the 'was'....... grin
No luck finding a walnut stock yet. But, the green plywood feels good and it's kinda grown on me, so no big hurry. I did think about slopping a coat o' paint on it, but won't. Does need the trigger lightened.
These aren't the skwirls that you are used to. These are blacktail prairie dogs. You'll see them up yearround and all winter during sunny days. win/win.....
A few pasture pups were out playing in the snow. Had to 'darkside' a few with the new hornet for ingwe......The customary red 'fan' of the bigger cartridges was somewhat missing with the diminutive 'green hornet'.
The 'Green Whore-gnat' stretched her legs out at a shade over 300. The 20 gr. V-max still had enuff poop to phoogin' near decapitate pot-bellied ol' Grampa.....
I'm ready and waitin on mine. My godfather is having two built, one for each of us. I kept telling him to wait and they would be available soon, but he couldn't stand it. He bought two 77/22 hornets and took them strait to the smith to have them rebarreled. Last I heard, the smith was waitin on a reamer. Can't wait t get it! Just have to decide on a scope now!
Same same. Not many out this summer up at the ranch. Was to cold for a while then got so hot early in the summer so the weather didn't cooperate. The guy who leases out the place to graze his cattle didn't put them in until later also so the grass was to high most of the time. I was busy enough ridding my grandparents yard of the suckers since we had our wedding ceremony and reception out in their yard. I had a blast stalking and waiting until each one would come out. Almost got to the point of mounting a gun rack on the mower too. Lets plan something for sure this summer and ill let you rub your grubby paws on the ho'net!
Nope. I went nuts right before rifle season reloading for all my other rifles. I haven't even thought about this one yet. Couple more weeks and deer/elk season will be over and I'll break it all out and serif I can put some test loads together
Dang,,,,,, You're gonna have yours worn out before Adam gets enough scientific reloading data stored to actually take his out and kill something with it.
Walked the whole crick trying to find the rogue, cow-slapping porkypine. Nuthin' doing.... So I popped out of the bottom to whack a ground dwelling rodent, instead....
I saw at least 25 squirrels, both fox and grays, whilst I was out deer huntin this morning... Little stinkers knew I wasn't going to shoot them with my big loud muzzleloader and scare all the big bucks off so they came in to about 20 yards and sat on their haunches... If only I had had a .22 or Judo point with me! Just wait til I tag out...
I've been making a calling stand on the bottom, before feeding for the last few days. Wanted to use the whoregnat in closer-quarters than the open prairie provides. Then this guy shows himself at a little farther than I wanted, but wouldn't come in. Had to poke him at about 130yds, and he run aways after the hit. Piled up maybe 50 yds from impact.....
still need the porky, a swift fox, turkey and a 13 striped ground skwirl. Only then, will my prairie slam be complete..... The turkey and swift may take a couple years.....
I've been making a calling stand on the bottom, before feeding for the last few days. Wanted to use the whoregnat in closer-quarters than the open prairie provides. Then this guy shows himself at a little farther than I wanted, but wouldn't come in. Had to poke him at about 130yds, and he run aways after the hit. Piled up maybe 50 yds from impact.....
I know coons travel in troupes alot of time but I had a pard down in Clyde Park that was checking on a racket his chickens were making in the barn one night, went out with his 10/22 and killed 23 (!) coons....
I often suspect his invitations are actually a ploy to kill me.
Thoughts?
Travis
I told Rancho to send you pictures on his phone, he said he didn't have your phone number. There were a few other things he said, you may want to PM me to find out what that really was, an open forum such as this can't be violated with such information...
I don't even HAVE my hornet yet! I ordered direct from Savage and it wont get here for another month or two. I wasn't expect on shooting anything that day since it was storming so bad, but dumb, wet badger decided to walk close to where I was parked. All I had was my pistolas. My hornet will get to work over the spring squirrel population. Hoping for a short winter...
First critter with my reloads. Bad thing is, I lost one of my loaded mags outta my pocket, somewhere on the sneak. Will look for it again this afternoon....
Yes, Nash did hose it down... Looks like a drowned rat now! We got a grinner in a coon trap a few minutes ago... Nash poppedd it, and I think he needs to make a hat out of it, with the little rat tail hanging down in the back!
First critter with my reloads. Bad thing is, I lost one of my loaded mags outta my pocket, somewhere on the sneak. Will look for it again this afternoon....
The more I see that Ruger of yours Don, the more I keep thinking about it being at the top of my short list of wannas..
I was thinking the Ruger 17HMR would be a nice sized package, to have a 17 Fireball single shot on for a while...
then Ruger comes out with that 17 Hornet... which is close enough to what I was looking for..
I've even been on the look out for a 22 Hornet locally, and consider an aftermarket barrel....
I've been checking the local shops, and those that order whatever ya want on line, say there is a waiting list for those things...
that is the first gun I've been motivated over in a long time..
and every time Don posts pics of more critters its taken, it just ups the annie!
My gopher shooting pard had one of them built on a Ruger hornet years ago and Ive seen him kill thousands with it. It is just about Model Perfecto for gophs....
Also, I guess due to the small powder charge he has over 10K rounds down the barrel with no signs of degradation...
Planing a trip to hunt the Sage rats, never been so I would like to know were to go South Dakota,Kansas etc...What should I bring, take. Should I get a guide or hunt public ground. What should I pay a guide? Will love to here what you guys have to say. Thanks
I'm thinking I might have to break out the paint in the spring and add some tan and green to my stock. More of a multi purpose camo instead of solid white
Ingwe, hopefully the new call and the triple deuce will draw yote blood tomorrow. If not, I'll go back to where I went this morning and found where they were digging out in a hay field and lay some Montgomery #2s and/or Montana #3s and have my sweet revenge.. You got your Foxpro yet?
If'n I still lived closer that could be arranged... Are the coons still running out there? We haven't seen any tracks or any sign and are worried they diseased out. I was wanting to try out the coon fight sound on my Spitfire and go doggin' 'em too.
Coons is the reason I bought the foxpro...gotta load coon fight sounds into it. Not much sign of coons here now, until the temp gets over 30 degrees.... You guys gonna eat your coons?
best dog rifle IN THE WORLD...the original .17...the only "real" .17.
DH, I don't have a 'real .17' anymore. Do you think that a 'pretend .17' of the 'Fireball' variety, would stand any chance of gettin' one of them doggies? Just the name,'Fireball', sounds kinda vicious to me....
She'll be here next week. Think it's worth a try? Or do I have to stick to stuffed aminals, with the fake?
They get skinned and the carcass gets thrown or used for yote bait.. We had in a good friend in Montucky while we were there and he and his bud killed a coon and cooked it in a fire in their dugout. He said it was really dry and lean, which surprised me because I'd always heard they were really greasy. Breaks coons got it tough and don't have much fat, I guess..
here's a pic that 'slave put up. Look at that cool scope. It even has those twisty things on top for long range. Is that neat, or what? If you wanna swap glass, just to be cool, I'd take that one of yours off yer hands...
Oh,,, I like that allot, but you're right in that it needs more appropriate glass. Just not mine.
Nothing wrong with those twisty things on top of a heavy, long range, Gofer gun but they're pretty much useless on a walking varminter. Course, that just my opinion and the next guy might like em. To each his own.
That FB should round out your Ruger collection nicely. Good luck with it.
Since the furball won't be here for a few days, I figgered to fill in with the whore-gnat again. 20 grain vmaxes just pencil thru at 350 yds if no bone is hit. This guy was a stud-booner-boar-burrower. Beats the hell outta shooting teddybears.......
So mtcurman...these calls you make...are the reeds fairly freeze proof? Does the sound get distorted by blowing too hard? (shut yer trap guys...) I way prefer mouth calls when targeting coyotes. Bobcats I prefer my foxpro.
Took 3 rds from the whore-gnat to knock him outta the tree. Should have had the much-more-powerfull-er, but still woefully inadequate-er, 17 Fireball for todays little expedition.....
I was sitting in my car, plinking the little bastids off the top of the turkey feeder with my 15-22. The scope was evidently too high above the bore.grin. Now I really hate 'em......
I was sitting in my car, plinking the little bastids off the top of the turkey feeder with my 15-22. The scope was evidently too high above the bore.grin. Now I really hate 'em......
My son also got a passenger mirror on my Subaru Forester a few years ago. He accomplished the feat with my Ruger 22/45 pistol shooting at a running gopher. Probably because he shoots with the "wrong hand". I still say the vehicle door makes for a very nice rest for "Montana Drive By's".
And a veddy good dinner it was.. The triple deuced squirrel joined the wabbit in a pot pie, minus the crust. Mom found she didn't have a pie crust, but we all wanted a pot pie, so she just made the filling and made corn pudding for the side.. It was delicious!
'years ago', ain't makin' it here. Please remove this antiquity and put it in the proper year of the preceding century. thanks!grin
Did you get the mouse IN the cabin?
OK, boys. Plug them ears now.....
That picture predates the existence of the Campfire and a lot of the posters here. The mouse was in a drawer in an old cupboard in the cabin. Shooting buffalo at great distances is not near the sport that it is to shoot a mouse in a drawer...
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) of what happens when a broadhead is introduced to a squirrel's head. I'll try and duplicate it tomorrow.
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