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Posted By: Lakerdreams 338 win mag expiriances - 09/14/10
hi, i got a 338 win mag this year for moose hunting ive heard that the 338 is a hard hitting round. i was wondering is it true or is it only good balistics?
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/14/10
The 338 Win Mag is like a 308 Win on steroids. There are many great bullets in the caliber with few ways to mess up your selection. Just like the 308, it works when it's used properly. Of course, as with a steroid enhanced football player, there is a cost which the user has to pay to play in the "big league". There's nothing wrong with an extra 70 grains of mass on the terminal end though, especially when it's moving faster too.
Posted By: 405wcf Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/14/10
Klikitarik hits it right. It has more "thump" but at a price of recoil. It is not magic and does not make up for poor shooting. I have used it for large African plains game...eland, kudu, gemsbok, Hartmann's zebra. The kudu ran 70 yds; the others were DRT.

I was shooting 225gr Partitions at 2800fps. A 300mag, 30-06, or 308 would have killed any of them. I suspect with the '06 or 308 they may not have been DRT.

I don't know what it takes to kill a moose, but I am sure you are not under gunned with a 338!
It is a hard hitting round (on both ends). But it's also very effective. Moose aren't that hard to kill if hit hard and in the right spot. I tend to think the 250 grain brings the best out in it and I use the Partitions. I haven't been disappointed on anything I've shot with it.
luisss:
My moose rifle is a .338 WM. It sports a Leupold 1.5-5x scope and my "go-to" bullet is a 225 gr. NorthFork. To me, the NF's are slightly more accurate than Partitions (nop flies there tho) and perform at least as good as the Partition. I have on my desk, a 225 gr. NF I found under the far side of the 1st moose I shot with it. That bullet is a perfect text book mushroom and weighs 218 grs. What's not to like. True, NF's are more expensive but you're not gonna shoot a box of them at the range either - use something else for that.
The recoil is an attention getter but I find that when shooting from the bench, I use a PAST recoil pad with no problem. While hunting, you won't notice the recoil.
Best of luck.
Bear in Fairbanks
I have a .338 and am new to the club. The only thing I can contribute is that recoil with the .338 Winchester is not that big a deal.

Now that said, I do have a decent recoil pad...
I am 6'3" and I weigh 230
I hit hard too

My .270 Browning kicked harder than my remington 06, 7mag and my .338. It was my first HP rifle so I've always wondered if there was a learning curve for me or if it really punched like I remember. IT's been along time now since I've shot it...all my guns "push" as opposed to a "smack" like that thing did.

I've become very fond of my .338 and it will see alot of field time this year.
Posted By: bigsqueeze Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/14/10
For many years. the 338 Win Mag has shown, that it will handle any and all N/A big game, AND it has the terminal ballistics to more than support that.

If you do your job behind a 338 Win, the 338 Win will do likewise.

I`d own a 338 Win right now, but my 300 WSM and 375 Ruger both overlap game capabilities with the 338 Win.
Posted By: ldmay375 Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/17/10
Originally Posted by luisss
hi, i got a 338 win mag this year for moose hunting ive heard that the 338 is a hard hitting round. i was wondering is it true or is it only good balistics?

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Luisss,---I believe, the 338 Win Mag is the 30-06's bigger brother. My opinion, "for my hunting", it is the best all-arounder for bigger game. I have a few other cartridge chamberings, larger and smaller; but to me the 338 Win Mag is the mythical all-arounder. Of course, this is with the usual qualifiers of using a good bullet and proper shot placement. No magic involved, just flat works. For me the 225 TSX is the bullet of choice. Yep, I am "a TSX believer", but each to his/her own. There are plenty of great bullets and factory loads for the 338 Win out there. As already mentioned, the 338 Win Mag flat works.

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Posted By: Tonk Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/21/10
I have shot several bull elk with a .338 Win mag and 210, 225, 250 grain bullets. I noticed that hits with the .338 win mag caused the animal to show it was hit by body language. My .300 Win mag with 180 and 200 grain bullets never caused this to happen.

Now on moose I never noticed the body reaction as with the elk but they sure never went near as far after being hit. Shooting a moose with a 250 grain .338 Win mag, one does not have to worry about type of shot on the animal, any angle will take that moose with a .338 Win mag and 250 grain bullet. I have used Nosler Partitons, TBBC and Swift A Frame bullets.
One of the best out there, I'd take it over the 300 win mag any day of the year and twice on sunday. Doesn't seem to kick harder than my 300 IMHO.
Posted By: Tonk Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/24/10
Now those that don't really know, can use those 275 grn bullets that Swift A Frame has listed and it turns the .338 mag into better solution for those big bears when needed. In my one .338 winn, I use 2 bullet weights for big game, the Nosler 210 partition bullet and the 275 grn Swift A Frame bullet.
Posted By: Colo_Wolf Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/24/10
About five years ago I bought a used 338 and the pad is a bit old and hard, without a past pad or anything else, have shot up to 100 in a day working loads. slight neck ache is all that I com away with. 5'8, 200lbs.

All around bullet is at 250 gr. Ever see an elk with a bad day look on their face, just hit em with that.
Here's my experience with a 250 grain bullet. One of the first groups I shot with this gun. Not bad for a ruger m77 MKII.
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Posted By: gunswizard Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/24/10
For many years a pre'64 Winchester M/70 in .338WM was my elk rifle, it had a Canjar trigger in it when I purchased it and was the best shooting M/70 I've ever owned. Groups like the one posted above were easy to accomplish with my load of choice which consisted of a 275gr. Speer RN over a healthy dose of IMR4350. Recoil was stout but with a good recoil pad was manageable, a well placed shot put them down for keeps. I shot a mule deer behind the ear at 30yds. once, the result was an instant total lobotomy and a dead deer.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/24/10


I'm going to show the Coyote that you took 2 days before the Moose with the 225 TSX from the 338 Win.




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And the meat blown into the trees behind the Coyote


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Posted By: jwp475 Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/24/10


Taken with 338 win mag


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Posted By: Tonk Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 09/25/10
The .338 Winchester magnum is one of the very finest big game calibers out there and very shootable with a little practice you betcha. I have hunted whitetail deer with 200 grn bullets and moose/elk with 250 and 225 grain bullets respectively.
The .338 is very much like a bigger '06. It will move suitable bullets fast enough that you can hit and stay on the animals, including deer to 300 yards without holding off the animal.

To move the heavier bullets faster than the 338 you need a lot more powder capacity and get a lot more recoil as a result.

I prefer the 225 grain bullets in the 338. I use Interlocks for practice and deer. I use Partitions and TBBC for bigger game.
Posted By: ironbender Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/06/10
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Posted By: JBabcock Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/07/10
I've used the 338 a bunch on all sorts of game. Grizzlys, Elk, and Deer. Plus a few coyotes. It works just as well as a number of other cartridges that have the same horsepower. I used a 300 Weatherby for about 10 years and I think my 338 kicks less than the Weatherby. All of these animals were killed with 210 grain Noslers. I love that bullet.

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It works just fine, if you do.
Posted By: JBabcock Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/07/10
Wow, should have read the link before I posted.
Originally Posted by JBabcock
I've used the 338 a bunch on all sorts of game. Grizzlys, Elk, and Deer. Plus a few coyotes. It works just as well as a number of other cartridges that have the same horsepower. I used a 300 Weatherby for about 10 years and I think my 338 kicks less than the Weatherby. All of these animals were killed with 210 grain Noslers. I love that bullet.

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It works just fine, if you do.

Awesome pictures JBabcock. Excellent example of what the 338 is capable of.
From my experience the 338 WM loaded with 250g bullets at ~ 2700 kicks pretty good, but it can be managed. I would say significant more recoil than the 300 Weatherby, but then I have shot the 340 WBY with 200g bullets and was surprised how little it recoiled.
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
From my experience the 338 WM loaded with 250g bullets at ~ 2700 kicks pretty good, but it can be managed. I would say significant more recoil than the 300 Weatherby, but then I have shot the 340 WBY with 200g bullets and was surprised how little it recoiled.

It makes sense that the 300 wby would kick more because you are using around 84 grains of powder compared to the 70 grains in the 250 gr. 338 win mag. Have fun with that 340 wby by the way: Didn't know they made one of those that didn't rip your head off when you pulled the trigger!!!!
Posted By: las Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/07/10
Yeah, old Roy found a bunch of marks with that one.
Wouldn't the 250g bullet have something to do with the amount of recoil too? If we go only on powder charge then the 300 WBY should recoil more than the 375 H&H with a 270 or 300g bullet.

The 340 had a classic stock and 26" barrel (same as my 338). I have loaded 225g bullets in the 338 with less felt recoil then the 250s.
Posted By: JBabcock Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/08/10
I had a 340 before my 338 WM. To much recoil for me. Everybody has their limit, and the 340's recoil was past mine.
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/08/10
I have used the .338 Winchester quite a bit in North America and Africa. It's a great round, but after a number of years my experience was that lighter bullets (200-210 grains)killed game under 1000 pounds noticeably quicker than 225-250 grain bullets. Some of this depends on bullet construction, of course.
+1 and I'm sure your not the only one.
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/08/10
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Just a Hunter
From my experience the 338 WM loaded with 250g bullets at ~ 2700 kicks pretty good, but it can be managed. I would say significant more recoil than the 300 Weatherby, but then I have shot the 340 WBY with 200g bullets and was surprised how little it recoiled.

It makes sense that the 300 wby would kick more because you are using around 84 grains of powder compared to the 70 grains in the 250 gr. 338 win mag. Have fun with that 340 wby by the way: Didn't know they made one of those that didn't rip your head off when you pulled the trigger!!!!


A 340 that hurts is a 340 that is either a mountain rifle, or is simply built wrong for the shooter. Properly stocked, barreled, and scoped, a 340 can be very manageable and not uncomfortable to shoot. Interlocks, Grand Slams, Gamekings, Xs, and Ballistic Tips have all worked perfectly out of mine in the taking of moose, caribou and smaller game. Anything the 300 Weatherby has over the 300 Win Mag is even more so when comparing the 340 and the 338. But you certainly don't need either to hunt very effectively in Alaska.
I was given my first rifle at 16yrs old and now right in the mid 50's, it was a Sako L61R .338 WM....gave that to my son when he was 16 as well. I find it kills just as good as any .30 caliber I have used, proper bullet construction and points of impact is a big key. Recoil is "subjective", some men are just intolerant to pain...of any kind. I find once you set your shoulder pad in the "right" spot it is not bad at all. As many here have mentioned to get to the vitals of an animal you "must" hit the vitals, simple as that....animals go down. I like heavier bullets than lighter ones, they for me have worked better in the field.

I have a liking to the .33's, own 4 here in my home but I have always been fonder of just about any .30 caliber,,.30-30's various aught six, .308, .300wm., 30-338 wm.....really bullet makeup and shot placement is key.
Posted By: ironbender Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/08/10
Originally Posted by JBabcock
I had a 340 before my 338 WM. To much recoil for me. Everybody has their limit, and the 340's recoil was past mine.


I've been told that those extra two thousandths make a world of difference though.
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/08/10
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It's always amazed me that the 338/340 are regarded as virtual peas-in-a-pod with one kicking much worse, while the 300 Win Mag/Weatherby deal are regarded as a worthy step apart. Yet the latter two are virtual case capacity twins while the larger two are more significantly different in volume.
Posted By: JBabcock Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/09/10
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have used the .338 Winchester quite a bit in North America and Africa. It's a great round, but after a number of years my experience was that lighter bullets (200-210 grains)killed game under 1000 pounds noticeably quicker than 225-250 grain bullets. Some of this depends on bullet construction, of course.


That's an interesting observation John. I don't have anywhere near the experience you do, but I do know that the 210 Nosler in the 338 WM has been magic for me. I read somewhere once that one of the Nosler's or maybe the guy that works for them, (Chub?) said that the 210 Nosler was their best bullet. I don't even try other bullets anymore. Just load them, and go shoot stuff. Keeps it simple for me! Plus, the 250's rock me a little more than I like.

I've used the 210 on Bears and Elk, and haven't needed anymore penetration than what the 210's provide. All but the Big bear went down at the shot, and the bear only went about 35 yards.
Posted By: omega666 Re: 338 win mag expiriances - 10/11/10
Not a thing wrong with the 338 win mag plenty of recoil yes packs lot of knock down power I have a Ruger no 1 in the 338 shot a few musk ox and the boy also. Mine was a great shooter the guy who I got it from shot over all best shot in a yearly shoot out at his gun club yes he did his part and with a simmons scope . I am a big fan of the 300 mag my self so are alot of USMC and Army snipers I use the 338 rum myself & the 375 rum good luck with it you may want to restock it if its a tad light.
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