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Saw a Weatherby Vanguard in .257 Weatherby on Alaskaslist.com and decided to buy it for one of my nephews. His parents are very poor so he's been borrowing rifles from uncles and neighbors to hunt with. This would really be appreciated.
Call fellow and tell him I work 7-on and 7-off will express mail the money order, cashiers check or cash to him Thursday morning, only he will have to mail it to me as I live remotely. Starts telling me he wants to look at my DL and have a copy of it, needs bill of sale to be signed with witnesses, background check. Holy [bleep]! This guy is acting like I am trying to sell him a bomb or something. Okay, it is his property but, this is a $500 sale.

I cannot understand this full-on retardation of society.

If I sell a firearm, I will accept cash or money order or cashiers check. You can mail it to me and I'll mail you the firearm no problem. And I will send you a sidearm through third-party carrier.

Geez...
Yup, some act like they need to do the cops' job and "protect themselves from what you are going to do."
Just sell the rifle. Cash in hand. Rifle in hand, done.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Just sell the rifle. Cash in hand. Rifle in hand, done.

Did you read the OP?
Originally Posted by TheKuskokid
Saw a Weatherby Vanguard in .257 Weatherby on Alaskaslist.com and decided to buy it for one of my nephews. His parents are very poor so he's been borrowing rifles from uncles and neighbors to hunt with. This would really be appreciated.
Call fellow and tell him I work 7-on and 7-off will express mail the money order, cashiers check or cash to him Thursday morning, only he will have to mail it to me as I live remotely. Starts telling me he wants to look at my DL and have a copy of it, needs bill of sale to be signed with witnesses, background check. Holy [bleep]! This guy is acting like I am trying to sell him a bomb or something. Okay, it is his property but, this is a $500 sale.

I cannot understand this full-on retardation of society.

If I sell a firearm, I will accept cash or money order or cashiers check. You can mail it to me and I'll mail you the firearm no problem. And I will send you a sidearm through third-party carrier.

Geez...



Also, bring your Hunter Safety certificate, and an orange Elmer Fudd cap.
Ever since obama, its the latest thing.
I'd pass on that one. The nephew would be better off with a 30-06 anyways.
Originally Posted by SuperCub
I'd pass on that one. The nephew would be better off with a 30-06 anyways.


Bingo, especially if he's low on funds. The good old '06 (or .308) would be THE budget minded big game hunting rifle. Cheap(er) ammo available everywhere.

Jeff
I too would pass on the 257 Weatherby. Like the two previous posters. Weatherby ammo is expensive. Nephew would be better off with a 308win,270win or 30-06. That way ammo can be purchased any store that sells ammo. Just my opinion.
I won't sell without a copy of DL.... just CYA for me later down the line. YMMV.

Wtby reloads about as cheap as any other. LOL. Put 100 TTSX and life will be grand.

Across the counter its not cheap though.
What do you think you are protecting yourself from?

Especially when it is not required?
Court view is any seller's friend up here.

https://records.courts.alaska.gov/eaccess/home.page.2

(The seller is aware of what is out there on the internet I would assume?)
Originally Posted by ironbender
What do you think you are protecting yourself from?

Especially when it is not required?



Same I do when selling a vehicle or anything else. Just a start of some kind of trail that says I ain't hiding it anymore.

I realize its not required. And trust me, the data isn't going to just be flopped out there for anyone, but say my vehicle is involved in DUI, manslaughter, and the purchaser never transferred it? If push comes to serve and me selling it is not good enough, I'll at least be able to point them to the next "owner"
Donnie at Bowman Arms in Fairbanks has a Browning Hi Power Safari on sale in 30/06. I won't tell you the price but if it doesn't sell for him today I am picking it up tomorrow. It carries a 4X Lyman Alaskan Scope. Pretty hard to beat that for an old school do everything rifle. Its not salt wood either.
I usually do face-to-face transactions when I sell a firearm, and ask for a signed bill-of-sale just to prove that from that point onwards I no longer own the thing and am not responsible for whatever some bozo does with it. I'm not the law, so I don't ask for background checks, etc and I always pass on any sale that wants to do that.
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by ironbender
What do you think you are protecting yourself from?

Especially when it is not required?



Same I do when selling a vehicle or anything else. Just a start of some kind of trail that says I ain't hiding it anymore.

I realize its not required. And trust me, the data isn't going to just be flopped out there for anyone, but say my vehicle is involved in DUI, manslaughter, and the purchaser never transferred it? If push comes to serve and me selling it is not good enough, I'll at least be able to point them to the next "owner"

The difference here on a vehicle is both sides report their respective sides to DMV so they can do their jobs as cops...

As an FFL I have been contacted a couple times by BATFE looking for ANY activity by particular persons. That is over the course of 35 years here...

Never have understood the drivers license copy thing...
you might not understand, but it makes me feel a bit better. And thats MORE than good enough for ME. No disrespect intended. and likely some of that comes from asking for one every time we run a fire call for our records, its kind of ingrained so you know who is who so to speak.

A signed bill of sale would be good enough though, even though thats not required.

Recently I bought a couple of lowers face to face and provided my ID to the seller so he could prove he no longer owned....though he did not ask for...

And I hate paperwork with a passion.
Money--------->

<------------------Rifle



Why make it any harder than that?
Okay folks didn't want to get anything going. I was just disappointed. I would completely understand if someone just told me it would be too much a hassle for them to box it up and mail it when they can just do a 30 second face-to-face in Anchorage. I understand the convenience aspect. I have been turned down a couple of times because I live outside of town.

Yes, I reload, and I wanted him to have something that would let him be different and proud of it. I'll see if I can sneak something past the wife next time I go into town.
Posted By: hanco Re: So I Wanted To Buy A Rifle.. - 09/23/17
You pay

You take the rifle away!
Originally Posted by ironbender
Money--------->

<------------------Rifle



Why make it any harder than that?


Works for you I"m good with it. I guess a life of having to account for stuff when the SHTF makes me weird at times. I just wished I never went to work for government either in the end... I just thought small towns would have some sense... evidently nothing in government does...

Kusko, sorry to hear about how it all went down.
Seriously, why should it be any different than any other thing one can buy on Craigslist.

FTF is legal. What happens afterward is not the seller's problem nor business.

If the buyer is a jackwagon and you suspect so, don't sell....yanno just like any other damn thing.

No offense Jeff, but playing into the antis wheelhouse is stupid. Just say no. Sell it or don't. Simple.
hell you couldn't offend me, if that hadn't occurred to you.

And if you don't know by now that I enjoy the discussions then you are slower than I thought. LOL. That might be the Bulleit talking tonight.
Moping at home, 83 and 90 humidity. Sucks. LOL.

Sometimes you guys have to straighten me out or you might not let anyone but Carolyn in....

Saw a horse trailer from Seward at Glennallen and it made me think of you..... Dunns I believe was the name on there... Don't know why I think of you every time we see a horse trailer.
Originally Posted by rost495
hell you couldn't offend me, if that hadn't occurred to you.

And if you don't know by now that I enjoy the discussions then you are slower than I thought. LOL. That might be the Bulleit talking tonight.
Moping at home, 83 and 90 humidity. Sucks. LOL.

Sometimes you guys have to straighten me out or you might not let anyone but Carolyn in....

Saw a horse trailer from Seward at Glennallen and it made me think of you..... Dunns I believe was the name on there... Don't know why I think of you every time we see a horse trailer.

Cause I'm a horses ass? smile

there........in before art and Randy!!!
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by rost495
hell you couldn't offend me, if that hadn't occurred to you.

And if you don't know by now that I enjoy the discussions then you are slower than I thought. LOL. That might be the Bulleit talking tonight.
Moping at home, 83 and 90 humidity. Sucks. LOL.

Sometimes you guys have to straighten me out or you might not let anyone but Carolyn in....

Saw a horse trailer from Seward at Glennallen and it made me think of you..... Dunns I believe was the name on there... Don't know why I think of you every time we see a horse trailer.

Cause I'm a horses ass? smile

there........in before art and Randy!!!

Not by much... was typing...
You should let him keep it...
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by rost495
hell you couldn't offend me, if that hadn't occurred to you.

And if you don't know by now that I enjoy the discussions then you are slower than I thought. LOL. That might be the Bulleit talking tonight.
Moping at home, 83 and 90 humidity. Sucks. LOL.

Sometimes you guys have to straighten me out or you might not let anyone but Carolyn in....

Saw a horse trailer from Seward at Glennallen and it made me think of you..... Dunns I believe was the name on there... Don't know why I think of you every time we see a horse trailer.

Cause I'm a horses ass? smile

there........in before art and Randy!!!

Not by much... was typing...


My first thought when I read that as well! smile

...........now why is that? :0

Jeff
So predictable, youse guys are. smile
Originally Posted by TheKuskokid
.....Starts telling me he wants to look at my DL and have a copy of it, needs bill of sale to be signed with witnesses, background check. .


It's because very few people educate themselves on the gun shipping requirements. So, they try to do what they think is right. But, having no knowledge, they err on the side of ignorance & put meaningless restrictions on the transaction.
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