The Director of Product Management at Remington Arms answers questions about the new startup.

I was kind of disappointed when he was asked the question about the Model 7, the 7600, and the 750 and he glosses right over them and talked about the 1100 and Versa Max.

Yeah bring back the 1100, screw the Versa Max and bring back the model 7 and 7600. Additionally, drop the 750 and bring back the 7400 instead.

Buddy has a 750 he had to bring back to Remington 3 times for not cycling(he's local to Ilion), and he was told when he brought it back by the repair guys that the engineers had their heads up their azzes when they designed the 750.

Can I hear a 7600 CARBINE in .35 Remington coming into production? I'll put an order for TWO of them right now.

Latest from Remington Arms May 4th, 2021

V3 and Versamax are indeed revolutionary and do need to be a major part of the brand. Some of remingtons only wins in recent years.

Needless to say id guess the days of the walmart express and ADL are likely gone

The jam-o-matic and the pump? Don't imagine those will be around.

It will be a shame to see the 7 go...2 short action bolts are not needed imho.

"Twist rates" was the best thing mentioned in the link.

I like the 760, but I don't think that model or the 7600, 7400, 1100, or 7 would have much market share these days. So why focus on them, when the 870 and 700 are central to their future success? Get the foundation right, then go for the fringe market if need be.

PS - I'm not a gun writer

Agreed. Focus on what really works and sells today. Focus on the basic upgrades to the 700 that other manufacturers have been doing for years. Rather than downgrade it to a cheaper Walmart price point upgrade it to sell at a reasonable increase with the features today’s consumers want.

I would think they will eventually bring back a Model 7 in some configuration or another. They were popular rifles.

Years ago I got a set of drawings to Bobby Brooks for improvements for the M760. Nothing was ever done, but it would be good to maybe try again today with the new management. My ideas were to use a square tube over a square tube for the slide instead of round over round. The way my modification is set up the free-floated barrel cannot ever be touched my the for-stock making the 760 have the same accuracy potentials as a bolt action. Other suggestions were to go back to the basic design of the older Remington M141 for the extractor and ejector. Lastly I suggested going to a slightly larger magazine well to take a magazine made from sheet steel .020" thicker, feed lips made for specific cartridge's and spring tempered. These ideas were all for an up-grade in longevity and reliability.

Lastly I suggested learning how to do good trigger angles and set them up for 3.5 lb pull weights before they are assembled, and if it costs a few dollars more to pay for that work it's fine, because the American rifleman wants a good trigger in a rifle that can shoot well. Give the shooters a trigger that doesn't need gunsmithing or replacement!

No answer ever came back to me, but that was a different man. Maybe the new man would listen? Doubtful because as of now I believe money to tool up even for small modifications is likely not there, but I still think my ideas have merit and that a Remington pump rifle made in the way I suggest would be VERY popular.

The reasons people don't choose pumps is largely a matter of accuracy (the square sliders and good trigger address that) reliability (the extractor and ejector I suggest are better than those in the 700, and the beefed up magazine, done from spring steel would cure all the problems we hear about in the 760/7600)

I wouldn't mind seeing the Remington 700 classics come back.

I'd like to see rifles made with faster twists to handle heavier lead-free bullets, (think 22-250 with a 1:9). I think more states will ban lead eventually.

Curious if LH 700 actions will be made.

If they sold stand alone 700 Actions I'd buy some and have fun building up some rifles.

Anyway, it's good to see them back up and running with at least their core products.

Since Remington has owned the center fire pump action market niche for longer than I've been alive, I can't see why they would give up a market niche where they are the only player. It might not be a large market niche, but as long as they can make a profit, why wouldn't they want to produce a product that has zero competition and produces a steady income stream?

Because there are 45 billion used ones for 350 bucks out there. Anyone who wants one has one.

and nobody under the age of 60 wants one

Ive come to believe the only area Remington was able to hold onto any market share was with shotguns. 870s are still the king of the pumps and the V3 and Versamax were darn good and pretty popular. I still saw a lot of clays guys buying 1100s as well believe it or not. The 1100 is still a very relevant gun imho.

700s have lost a lot of market share due to Remington's shenanigans and strong competition from companies like Tikka etc.

I hope the 700 comes back and takes its throne back...just don't know if it can.

Make that 1:8 and you might have something.

And few of us older than 60 wants one. We done learnt the hard way!

Really?? Where?? I guess you haven't looked at closed listings on Gunbroker much.

Put me in line for a $350 30-06 7600 carbine and let me know where to send the check or money order

Hey, I'm ahead of you, LMAO and I'll take the first 50 of them, just let me know where to bring the cash !!!

But 700s made them money. So when the CF rifles (bolt actions) start up...

Found a bunch for around that price in Pennsylvania gunshops. Call around.

If you guys are trying to find good prices on gunbroker for anything you're not going to find much luck

Buy them and post them here for those of us not in PA !!

I'll take a high gloss .270

Mike

Remington is re-entering a very competitive market with a damaged reputation and their flagship products have a damaged reputation as well.

The 870, 1100, and 700, when executed properly, are fantastic products with attractive prices. Ditch the rust attractant finish on the shotguns. Put a good trigger in the 700, and while I think the brazed bolt handle issue is overblown, just weld the damn thing. Remember that lightweight and twist is more important to buyers today than it was a few decades ago. Then QC QC QC. If a problem does come up. CS CS CS. Build the foundation with those basics.

Remember what you offer that others don't. The pump action centerfires are unique. They tend to be very accurate as well. Synthetic and stainless or cerakote sells today. Seems "guide guns" are still a thing and tactical does as well. A 7600 "guide" model or "tactical" model perhaps?

Build foundational products correctly the first time. Stand behind them. Innovate into niche segments with little competition.

That may be so in some parts of the country, but dealers in Maine are paying over $500 per unit for clean, original, 760s and then selling them for a healthy profit.

Nu h h derrr. Herrr. Lol.

How many firearm companies have you worked for?

Ever hunted anything in New England? Prices for them are up over $800 now for a good one. Carbine might go $1k.

I rarely see 760/7600 in shops here anymore and when I do they run about $700 and up.

And as Pintsofcraft said, carbines run over $1,000

Make that Carbine with a 20" bbl and you'll have the perfect short range deer rifle.

The Fudds will go nutz over that one, including me.

Black bear on bait and hogs too.

You taking language class from Big Stick ?

Laugh at you.

Jerry

I’d be a buyer too 😉

Well, those were disappointing answers. The whole thing was grey middle management speak. There was no definite specific goal described in the whole thing. You are not going to pin that guy down.

In my humble opinion, I think there is a much bigger market out there for a good pump action rifle like the 760/7600 than the bolt guys realize.

Ain't no way the "Amish Machine Gun" is selling for $350 in Pa, they are too highly prized. And if they are, give me the LGS address or a link and I'll buy them for $350.

I agree fully !!!!

The whole time he is answering your questions with words like "Legacy" or "sustainability" or "moving forward" if you don't keep your eye on him, youll turn around and find him swallowing you like a python..."foundational" gulp "focus driven approach" gulp "consumer trust" gulp

None here in the South for $350. have I seen in years.

Jerry

You can call me a "cross shooter"



I like bolts & pumps.

There is a 6mm Rem & 30-06 that CAN'T be bought.
The other 2 are not likely to be sold either.

I was skeptical of the pumps at first even tho my Dad had a 760, 30-06 as his only rifle for years.
They proved their value to me.
6mm Rem, 270 Win, & 30-06 shoot accurately the SAME loads as bolt actions.

Jerry

Grice had them for that amount...used.

I don't give a damn if you believe that they were there or not. Fact is they were.

Moved on from Remington many years ago. Too many others that don't have issues, or will shoot from the box. Saying that, the wife does have a couple. An older 870 Light Weight Limited and a Model 7. Both are good. Remington was one of the few makers that had something for a short statured person that was balanced. I hope they can come back, they did have many very good offerings. The later ones not so much.

I'm with you Jerry, I like pumps and bolts.
And I like the Jamomatic I have in .308 that functions flawlessly, so much so that I just purchased another in 270 I'll be picking up tomorrow.
7MM Rem Mag, 270 Win., 30-06, 6MM Rem., 308 Win, 35 Rem., it's all good !!!!

Not too long ago used 760 and 7600 rifles were common in the pawn shops here. And somewhat occasionally in local forums. I paid $200, but I think $300 was more typical. I haven't checked in awhile though.

I'm partial to the 760 corncob with front swivel on the tube, not the barrel. Cool rifles, and I dig the design. But I still think that guys that like pump rifles already own one or several. Most new shooters (coworkers or friends) that I help are interested in a Ruger American, not a pump action.

Obviously Remington has the sales numbers and will plan accordingly.

I hope they bring back the V3. I need some shims for mine. IMHO the 1100 should be a given.

HOLY PRESSED BASKET WEAVE BATMAN!

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You can call me a "cross shooter"



I like bolts & pumps.
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They are not just queens either.

6mm Rem



270 Win - 22 steps



30-06



They work.

My example of one is a 1980's 30-06 Rem pump that I bought new that would not reliably extract after being sent twice to an authorized repair center. It got sold and I moved on. Nice concept if it worked for the spray and pray crowd. My bigger question is are the Rem primers going to be made again???

When I was a kid there was a family of road hunters that cruised around where I hunted looking for easy shots, regardless of whose land it was. they all used Remington pumps. thats what I always think of when I see one. Redneck road hunters.

Looks like some 1100 parts on the right of the gun cabinet bottom

Actually it's a rubber band holder from a set of old Uncle Mikes scope covers.

Ah thought it was part of the gas system...

Remington will initially manufacture the products that are the most profitable, and expand from there. That doesn't necessarily mean the most profit per unit, but the products that can generate large revenues with high profits. I don't know for sure which models those are, but I'd guess it would be 870s, 1100s, and lower-feature versions of the 700.

As a "re-startup" business, that's what they have to do in order to generate cash flow to invest more into their business, and expand the product offering from there.

The Remington 760 family of pump guns are typically quite accurate, more accurate than most other comparable lever and semi-auto sporting rifles chambered for cartridges in the 270/280/-'06 power range. When you're jump shooting whitetails in heavy cover, carrying a rifle that allows for quick follow up shots often gives the hunter a better opportunity to punch his tag. Besides, they have been proven time and again by people like the Benoits and Berniers.

IIRC, Layne Simpson has written articles that praised the 760/7600 for their accuracy once the trigger pulls had been improved.

You regularly see Remington 760/7600 series rifles in the hands of deer/bear/moose hunters in northern New England, New York, and in PA because semi-autos have long been restricted there.

You said 45 billion musta been 4.5 billion or even million

I keep hearing how bad late Remingtons are. I have or had shot several that were really good shooters, 2 6.5 CM, 1 6MM CM, 1 308, and 1 300 WM. All were much better than 1" at 100, The 2 6.5's the 6mm, and the 308 6" and sometimes a bunch better at 600. I would like to see them come back. Also have some from the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. .223 - 30/06. Some shot as well as the later 700's but none shot better.

Look at what people are buying, no one wants that kind of light and handy bolt rifle these days, the modern consumer likes heavy rifles preferably with a metal chassis, heavy barrels threaded for a suppressor and top it off with a bipod and 4-16x or better scope. It's a short walk to the tree stand.