Have this partial box of Remington bronze points. Always heard not a good bullet. Was going to load some in my 30-06 for whitetail, but maybe stick to something else? Maybe a good varmint bullet, wolves ,coyotes ?
I would imagine that they have killed a lot of animals. I would also bet that they (like many bullets) have failed, and we will soon hear about those failures. (But maybe they haven't been used much recently, so we'll just get second-hand accounts.)
But they sure look "Bad Ass !"
Based on personal experience I would not use them on critters larger than a coyote. Certainly not on anything I wanted to eat or even find.
Many times I had a native from out in the village somewhere in rural AK come in looking for bronze points. To a man they all told me they wanted them for moose because the bronze tip was the bone breaker.
Loaded some years ago, killed deer fine.
Loaded some years ago, killed deer fine.
Same here, i loaded them in a 30.06 and my brother used them in a 300mag and we both killed a bunch of deer with them.
Never had any issues with them from a 30-06.
150 grain on whitetails.
I guess you could think of them as an early Ballistic Tip, just had a metal tip instead of poly.
I used them, in the late 80s or early 90s, 150 grainers in a .300 Savage at about 2550 fps. They didn't open up much, probably because the old .300 just didn't have enough velocity for them. I bought them cheap from a fellow who went to gunshows and bought stuff and resold it. I quit them for deer and went back to Speer Hot Cores or Hornaday Spire points (shot a lot of pre-interlock spire points out of that old .300). The bronze points made dandy practice bullets and shot very well.
If they’d bring ‘em out in a bonded version, how cool would that be? Boomers would line up to buy them…..
(I’m having a lot of fun with this Boomer schitt)
The original "tipped" bullet.
The original Ballistic Tip.
You beat me typing it
No one has mentioned BC; how can this discussion have any validity?
Many years ago I worked on a buddies ranch putting up hay and other stuff. He was short on cash and paid me off with a bunch of bronze tips in .270. I loaded them up and shot the snot out of a bunch of Mule Deer as well as coyotes. They worked just fine. I can't recall if I popped any elk with them or not. Could have but I just don't recall off the top of my head. I do recall that the bronze points were accurate and dropped bucks as well as anything else.
The original Ballistic Tip.
You beat me typing it
Same idea.....Not the same.
I had a few boxes years ago. I tested quite a few on diff medium. EXPLOSIVE
? Maybe a bad lot ?
Never hunted them. I too liked the idea and looks.
Jerry
I used the 150gn in my .30-06 for pigs at around 2900fps. They seemed to work fine.
Shot 4x5 whitetail with 150 gr bronze pts out of my 308 1 shot and a 75 yd run ,he dead. I've got 3 boxes of 130 grain BP's for the 270 and 50 180 grain .308's. I've heard they don't have a real high regard by the knowing but I'll give them a go. Mb
I thought them cool looking if nothing else.
They were cool looking, but not as cool looking as Winchester Sliver Tips, I remember shooting some of them, but don't remember what critters i killed with them if any ?? Rio7
I bought two rounds of .30-06 (150 grain Bronze Points) from a broken box in my (not yet born) wife's grandfather's store. I thought they were pretty cool looking bullets. I went out with my O3-A3 and shot a couple of woodchucks. One came running out of a hole in front of me, stopped and popped up. I hit it square in the chest at about 10 yards. It fell forward, then proceeded to gallop in about a thirty-foot circle, got back to where it started and dropped dead. The next one I shot was running away from me at about fifty yards. The bullet must have struck somewhere around the base of the tail. All I found when I got up to it was the head and two fore legs with about a two-inch wide strip of skin from its back. That's the extent of my experience with Remington Bronze Points.
BC? 30 cal. 150 grain bp .365. , 180 grain bp .412
BC? 270 cal. 130 grain .372. Mb
Now we have the definitive measure of a bullet's worth!
If you are selling, I will take them.
BC? 30 cal. 150 grain bp .365. , 180 grain bp .412
BC? 270 cal. 130 grain .372. Mb
Those don’t fit the queermoore.
Jwall remingtons own numbers 2006 catalog. Mb
Didn’t doubt you.
I spoke truth.
Jerry
bet the "Lead is bad" Cali regulator types could find something to complain about ..
The weird thing is I never saw a box for sale anywhere around here. Pointed core-lokt's, round nose core-lokts, power lokt hollow points, silvertips and power points all over but never a box of bronze points.
Many moons back used factory 150s in my old Browning shootamatic. Shot several deer with fairly spectacular results. I remember a couple of drops on the spot and a good 8 pt throwing water 6 feet in the air chasing a doe thru a bog. Till I shot him. Only stumbled another 30 ft or so. Died with womerns on his mind.
They sure worked well in my old Ruger .270. I walloped a lot of deer with them when Midway sold the component bullets. That rifle would dent the nose of softpoints sliding around back and forth in the magazine, so I thought that bullet would solve the problem. It did,and it flat-out knocked the deer down like they were electrocuted. I was sad when I couldn't get any more of them. For some reason, NBTs haven't shown me the same effect.
Hey Rat
I'm glad they worked for you AND I wish I had shot at least a few deer with mine in 270.
The only reason I didn't was that I never recovered one that was not erratic. OH WELL, too late now for sure.
I had bought 2 of so boxes from Midway as well --- way back there.
Live and Learn
Thanks
Jerry
Jerry, I shot one deer with a .30/06/180 Bronze Point, and it wasn't much different, it shellacked that deer like it had swallowed a Claymore mine. Then I ran out of those bullets, too. I was not happy with Remington at that time (I still haven't forgiven them for discontinuing those bullets). Oh well, life goes on, and there are plenty of other bullets to use. Whitetail deer just aren't that hard to kill.
I agree about 'hard to kill' at the same time I have had 'some' P P performance ON DEER from bullets that
1. killed the deer but 2. did NOT perform as advertised or supposed to.
IMO, just because you kill a deer and recover it does NOT mean the bullet did NOT fail.
Good Luck this seasons.
Jerry
It seems that all the crappy performance I ever had on deer were with boattail bullets. Hornady's 140gr. BTSP was especially bad, along with Sierra's Gamekings. I know, after I switched over to flat-based bullets, my problems all went away. I've had good performance with some boattails, but then bullets out of the same danged box would explode and crater on the deer.
Some folks swear by those 140 Hornadys (.277"), but I'll never use them again. Gamekings are hit or miss, sometimes they'll do the deed just right, and sometimes they don't.
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get Speers to shoot worth a hoot.
If they’d bring ‘em out in a bonded version, how cool would that be? Boomers would line up to buy them…..
(I’m having a lot of fun with this Boomer schitt)
I think your a Boomer.
Some folks swear by those 140 Hornadys (.277"), but I'll never use them again.
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get Speers to shoot worth a hoot.
NOT to derail or misdirect this thread, just answering ratsmacker:
I used the 140 BTSPs in Miss in the 80s and they worked fine FOR ME. I had a small PRETTY 8 pt mounted that I kilt using them.
Per speers, I got good accuracy with 270 W and 130 S BT but were EXplosive!!
The 180 30 cal S Hot Cors separated every time on WT from 180 yds------389 yds for me. ONLY fragments exited.
So, round and round we go.
?Maybe? I had bad lots. I don't use them.
Jerry
This is great info, thanks for all that replied. I have a box of 150 grain .30 Bronze Points that were my Dad’s and I wasn’t sure what to do with them - now I know!
I have a thousand NIB 270 130
500 NIB 30 Cal, not sure the weight, and about 500 laying around of different weights.
I have killed elk with these with no problem, I would use again if needed.
Just need to drag em out, and get em sold one day..
It seems that all the crappy performance I ever had on deer were with boattail bullets. Hornady's 140gr. BTSP was especially bad, along with Sierra's Gamekings. I know, after I switched over to flat-based bullets, my problems all went away. I've had good performance with some boattails, but then bullets out of the same danged box would explode and crater on the deer.
Some folks swear by those 140 Hornadys (.277"), but I'll never use them again. Gamekings are hit or miss, sometimes they'll do the deed just right, and sometimes they don't.
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get Speers to shoot worth a hoot.
Funny enough, the two bullets that I have had the worst luck with were both Speers. One was the 6.5mm 140gn that would not shoot in a vary accurate Mauser M12 6.5x55 that shoots every other bullet very well. The other was the 7mm 145gn Grandslam that shot three inch plus groups in a very accurate 7x64. I tried the Grandslam in another 7mm rifle, my Number 1 7x57, and same result. That rifle is a 1.5 inch rifle but no luck with the Grandslams.
But the only bullet that ever put three into the one hole was the Speer .30 cal 165gn BT from my .30-06 at 100m. That was a undoubtedly a fluke as I never did it again but that bullet did shoot just under the inch. Despite the bad luck with the 6.5mm 140gn, the Speer 6.5mm 120gn shoots brilliantly, as well as the 120gn Sierra, Ballistic Tip and 129 gn Hornady. Speer have given me the most inconsistent results from all the bullet manufacturers, whereas Noslers, Hornadys, Sierras etc have all shot well enough to be acceptable for hunting. Maybe some of Speer's machinery is getting old or something?
My step father killed a lot of elk with .270 win. Rem. factory 130 gr. bronze points back in the day.
Don't see why it wouldn't work on white tails, keep the velocity up and put it where it needs to go.
Kenster99: I found out that the Remington "Bronze-Point" ammunition began production in 1939 but for the life of me and all the google-fu I can muster I can NOT ascertain when the Winchester Silver-Tip" ammuntion began production?
Anyone have any information as to when the Winchester Silver-Tips began production?
I was just interested in who may have been "copying"/trying to keep up with who in these somewhat similar bullet/ammo offerings.
I have used both Bronze-Points and Silver-Tips on occasion in the past and they both worked rather well for me.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Kenster99: I found out that the Remington "Bronze-Point" ammunition began production in 1939 but for the life of me and all the google-fu I can muster I can NOT ascertain when the Winchester Silver-Tip" ammuntion began production?
Anyone have any information as to when the Winchester Silver-Tips began production?
I was just interested in who may have been "copying"/trying to keep up with who in these somewhat similar bullet/ammo offerings.
I have used both Bronze-Points and Silver-Tips on occasion in the past and they both worked rather well for me.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
The only thing "similar" about bronze points and silvertips is that they're both jacketed bullets.
Rem 742 30/06 2.5x scope low rings stay off shoulder bang flop. Ala.,Ga, Ms. Probably would not work in Penn.
Now I need to get out my camera and take a pic of my collection of 7mm Speer 175 grain Mag-Tips.