180 Partition Prot. Pt. vs. spitzer

Helped a buddy’s son reload for his 30-06 to hunt a rut bull elk tag last month. He specifically wanted to use 180 gr Partitions, but I only had Protected Pt blems which we used. He’s slightly built so I used a below book max load likely in mid 2600’s. He shot a nice 5x5 at 70 yds right behind shoulder broadside. Double lunger clipping a rib on exit. His dad—my buddy—said exit would looked similar to entry. Lungs were toast. Bull made it about 75 yards before his legs gave.

I don’t think the Prot Pt are tougher construction (due to their stated use in 300 Win Mag) but is that wrong?

The Protected Points are not "built" any tougher. The 180 gr Protected Point PT was desighen for the 300 Win Mag. It allows the bullet to be seated further out of the case because of the flat point

Originally Posted by fremont

Helped a buddy’s son reload for his 30-06 to hunt a rut bull elk tag last month. He specifically wanted to use 180 gr Partitions, but I only had Protected Pt blems which we used. He’s slightly built so I used a below book max load likely in mid 2600’s. He shot a nice 5x5 at 70 yds right behind shoulder broadside. Double lunger clipping a rib on exit. His dad—my buddy—said exit would looked similar to entry. Lungs were toast. Bull made it about 75 yards before his legs gave.

I don’t think the Prot Pt are tougher construction (due to their stated use in 300 Win Mag) but is that wrong?

What are you talking about? The protected point was made for the 300wm due to most mag constraints and staying within SAAMI specs to maintain and not exceed a 3.340" OAL. They weren't made because they are tougher than the regular ol 180gr partition.

I always read the protected point was made for the 300 H&H.

Sounds like classic Nosler performance to me, caliber-ish size exit wound with a lot of stuff messed up inside.

The lower impact speed of your toned down load would likely lead to less expansion.

Animal ran until it's BP dropped to zip, then it died. Seems like typical partition performance - not a bad thing.

Originally Posted by outahere

The lower impact speed of your toned down load would likely lead to less expansion.

On their website, looks like Nosler claims the bottom of Partition velocity window is 1800 fps which is certainly below the 06's velocity at 70 yard impact given 2600 at muzzle. Their picture of a mushroomed 1800 fps Partition looks about 2x caliber.

Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter

Originally Posted by fremont

Helped a buddy’s son reload for his 30-06 to hunt a rut bull elk tag last month. He specifically wanted to use 180 gr Partitions, but I only had Protected Pt blems which we used. He’s slightly built so I used a below book max load likely in mid 2600’s. He shot a nice 5x5 at 70 yds right behind shoulder broadside. Double lunger clipping a rib on exit. His dad—my buddy—said exit would looked similar to entry. Lungs were toast. Bull made it about 75 yards before his legs gave.

I don’t think the Prot Pt are tougher construction (due to their stated use in 300 Win Mag) but is that wrong?

What are you talking about? The protected point was made for the 300wm due to most mag constraints and staying within SAAMI specs to maintain and not exceed a 3.340" OAL. They weren't made because they are tougher than the regular ol 180gr partition.

Aside from the tip, is the rest of the bullet the same as the other, specifically the location of the ogive?

Originally Posted by SuperCub

Aside from the tip, is the rest of the bullet the same as the other, specifically the location of the ogive?

No. PP bc .361 while spitzer .474. Resulting shorter manual recommended COAL for ‘06.

As the name suggests protected point to keep the rounds in the magazine from battering the tips on recoil it also allows an increase in case capacity if your chamber conformation allows you to seat it out. Mb

As long as there's an accubond, I see no need for a tipped partition personally. The partition was already one of, if not the most reliable hunting bullet on the planet.