We're getting close to sending this book to the printer, probably in the next week or so. Eileen will have the words/pages set up this week, and then we just have to add the photos, which have already been selected.

One thing we're running into which needs to be mentioned. The title is Gun Gack IV, the Little Book of Rifle Handloads That Work. It's about loads I've found to shoot accurately in more than one rifle of a certain chambering over the years, sometimes a LOT of rifles. There are 50 cartridges included, ranging from around 20 very popular rounds down to a handful of rare ones. Each chapter is a short essay followed by a load chart.

We knew it would be a smaller than the previous three BIG Gun Gack books, which are about the size of a Gun Digest Annual, around 400 pages in the same 8-1/2 by 11-inch format. This book will be a lot smaller, around 250 pages in a 6x9 inch format--but something happened that we didn't anticipate: Book publishing has been affected, like everything else, by the recent supply-chain/inflation problems. We found this out partly through ordering another printing our first RIFLE LOONY NEWS book. It turned out the company didn't have enough paper on hand for the entire printing, so shipped us 25 copies to get by on while they waited for another paper shipment.

Of course, paper costs more now, and so does shipping. We won't know exactly what the price will be until the books arrive, due to both the final printing and shipping costs not being available until then. As a result, even though the book will indeed be smaller than the BIG GACK books, the price may be similar. Oh, and one other thing that's going up, naturally, is postage rates, which will apparently rise before the books arrive. But we'll provide the best deal possible--and right now fuel prices are starting to drop a little...

Let me know if you want to be put on the pre-publication list, which means when the books show up I'll PM everybody and let you know they're here. As always, the price on www.riflesandrecipes.com will include media-mail shipping in the U.S., and the books can be ordered through the site--or if you prefer ordering from an actual human, by phoning 406-521-0273.

Thanks,
John

Sign me up, John.

John, I'd love to purchase one. Please add me to the list.

Good shootin' -Al

Please count me in John - thanks

Sign me up. I want a copy. Wish I had it now since I have to work up loads for a new 06.

Yes

TAG

I’ll take one.

Count me in for one.

Please include me on your PM notification list.
Very interesting hearing about the issues you are encountering in publishing this loading reference.

Any chance you can put up the Table of Contents to whet our appetites ?

Thanks

Please put me on the list

John,

Please put me on the list as well. Looking forward to it!

Reserve one for me

I’m in.

Joining in here.

I'ld like to be included!

Add me please.

Please add me to the list...

Me too please.

I'm in, thank You.

JB,

Have you given any thought to offering a digital format book? I have no idea what that encompasses, but it would help with the paper and mailing costs.

Regards,

Manny

Please put me on the list, Mule Deer

Thanks, sign me up.

Add me to the list. Thanks.

Craig

Please add me to the list as well

John - absolutely! Sign me up for a copy please.

Regards, Guy

I'd like a copy.

Thank you

Manny,

Yes, we have. Unfortunately, the two methods of digital publishing have problems. One method allows the work to be easily pirated, and the other method tends to mangle numbers--which is a BIG problem with handloading books, as well as the cookbooks Eileen writes.

However, we may eventually digitally publish some other books.

John

Add me to that there list...

Hi John-
Please add me to the list.

Sign me up, please!

Me, too!

Ditto the table of contents listing cartridges you’re listing loads for

Please sign me up for a copy.

Put me on the list.

I would like a copy

Please

Please add me to the list, John.

Sign me up

I'd like one, thanks.

Add me to the list

Please put me on the list.

Dean

Please put me on the list.

Thanks

Please include me on the list!

Brian

Sign me up, thanks.

Put me on the list for one.
Thanks
Cliff

It looks like pre-sales are favorable!

Please add me to the list.

Please add me to the list.
Thanks
Jim

John,
Put me on this list. Look forward to another good read!

Mickey

I'm in for one.

Can you cheat a little and give me your best 55gr. .223 load using H335, CFE223, Tac or Xterminator?

Sign me up, please. Thank you.

Please put me on the list. Thanks.

Sign me up please

Please put me on the list.

Thanks,
David

Sign me up also
Thanks

Please include me in the pre-pub list - thanks MD & LTF!

put me on the list

John,
Please add me to the list also.

Bruce

Thanksto everybody! Have you all on the list.

For those who missed it the first time I posted the list of cartridges, here it is again:

Chapter 1: .17 Hornet
Chapter 2: .17 Remington Fireball
Chapter 3: .17 Remington
Chapter 4: .204 Ruger
Chapter 5: .22 Hornet
Chapter 6: .22 K-Hornet
Chapter 7: .221 Remington Fireball
Chapter 8: .222 Remington
Chapter 9: .223 Remington
Chapter 10: .22-250 Remington
Chapter 11: .220 Swift
Chapter 12: 6mm PPC
Chapter 13: .243 Winchester
Chapter 14: .250 Savage
Chapter 15: .257 Roberts
Chapter 16: .25-06 Remington
Chapter 17: .257 Weatherby
Chapter 18: 6.5 Creedmoor
Chapter 19: .260 Remington
Chapter 20: 6.5x55
Chapter 21: 6.5 PRC
Chapter 22: .264 Winchester Magnum
Chapter 23 .270 Winchester
Chapter 24 .270 WSM
Chapter 25 .270 Weatherby Magnum
Chapter 26 7mm-08 Remington
Chapter 27 7x57 Mauser
Chapter 28 .280 Remington
Chapter 29 .280 Ackley Improved
Chapter 30 7mm Remington Magnum
Chapter 31 .30-30 WCF
Chapter 32 .300 Savage
Chapter 33 .30-40 Krag
Chapter 34 .308 Winchester
Chapter 35 .30-06 Springfield
Chapter 36 .300 WSM
Chapter 37 .300 Winchester Magnum
Chapter 38 .300 Weatherby Magnum
Chapter 39 .303 British
Chapter 40 8x57 Mauser
Chapter 41 .338-06
Chapter 42 .338 Winchester Magnum
Chapter 43 .35 Remington
Chapter 44 .358 Winchester
Chapter 45 .35 Whelen
Chapter 46 .350 Remington Magnum
Chapter 47 9.3x62 Mauser
Chapter 48 .375 H&H
Chapter 49 .450-400 3”
Chapter 50 .45-70

I don't often volunteer to be on another list.

Pls list me!

Me too John

Add me to the list.

GreggH

I think I have already signed up for something like this in the past, but if not, please put me on the list!
Thanks,
Rex

Yes please add me.

I’m in for one as well John! Thank you!

Tom

I'll take one please.

One for me please!

I think I've already put my name in the hat for this, if not I am NOW.

Thanks

Deans

I would like one as well, please.

I'm in, of course.

Greg Perry

I'll take one to add to my collection ...........

I would like to be on the list

Please include me on your PM notification list.

Certainly, in fact most certainly.

i'm in. thanks

Please add me to the list as well.
Thanks

I'd love a copy.

Put me down.

Thanks,

Warren

I’m in John!

Can’t wait to read/study the latest “issue” of Gun Gack!

Elk Country

John,
Thanks for the reply. Put me on your list too please.
Manny

Count me in John!

Should already be on one of the other list, but in case I’m not please sign me up.

Sign me up

I'll take one too. Thanks

Yep, Please put me down for one as well!

MD I couldn’t help but notice that Chapter 28 was Not listed, and also coincidentally that the 280 Rem / 7mm Express was dropped from the original list. Hmmm, Adding the 7 mm Saum perhaps
This Topic probably deserves its own small book to adequately cover the subtleties revealed.
Also, glad to see coverage of the .338 ‘06

I'd like one also
Thanks

John, I would like to get one.

Please sign me up for one (1) copy. Thank you.

Thanks, guys!

Should also note that this is not a "new list." It's the same as the one I posted about a while back, but we're adding to it now that publication-time is closer.

338Rules, I probably accidentally left Chapter 28 .280 Remington off the chapters because the list was too long to copy-and-paste in one batch. Thanks for the catch--I fixed the post.

I would love to have one sir!

MD Thanks for Clearing Up that Mystery !

At first I thought there was some sort of conspiracy, to the effect that there were no general loads that shot well in the 280 . Only rifle specific tailored hand loads, Yikes.

Resting easier until Gack IV publication is in hand.

“ To Err is Human, but to Really Screw Things Up Requires a Computer “

Please put me on the list

I would like a copy!

Please add me to the list.
k2nd

Please add me to the list! One of my favorite MD articles is “Loads that work”. I saw it published in Handloader (if I remember correctly) and it has a permanent place on my reloading bench for reference. It was updated I think years later and I have that article on my bench as well. Great info!

I need to amend John's announcement of his new book, Gun Gack 4. I won't have it ready for the printer until August 1 at the earliest. Then it's a 4 to 6-week process of back and forth with the printer to get everything right, and a week to ship it. That's a perfect-world estimate. And I won't have a price for the book until I send it to the printer. (Paper costs are going up, paper supplies even costing delays, postal costs are going up later this month, and shipping it to us is costing more, all things out of our control.) However, once that's done, I'll give my tech guy everything he needs to set up a page for the book, so you all can pre-order.
That's probably more than you wanted to know about the printing world.
One more thing. I'm setting the book up right now in InDesign, so we can give it to a couple of our rifle loony friends to fact check the data, and me to read and edit for typos etc. So if you still would like to be on "The List' just tell John right here, email me at [email protected] or text me @ 406-521-0273. I love to talk on the phone with anyone who'll give me respite from the computer, but it's time away from getting the book ready. If you're not comfortable with computers and texting, just give me a call. I get it.

Keep cool everyone. Summer heat is a sign hunting season is just around the corner!
Eileen

I'm interested. Please add me to the list.
Thanks
Wyomike

Sign me up too.

Please add me to the list! Thanks

Geez, according to the responses I wish I had approached JB to buy up the futures of this book on the commodities market. At this point he and Eileen would probably want too much $ for me to corner the market now.

I'm in for a copy as well. Thanks.

Any chance we can get a peak at the Table of Contents ?

Posted it 19 hours ago on page 6 this thread, #17400639.

Please add me to the list, MD.

Please add me to the list

Please add me to the list as well. Thanks

Add me to the list John, thanks.

John,

Please add me to the PM list to buy a copy of Gun Gack IV, the Little Book of Rifle Handloads That Work. Some interesting cartridge choices.

John,

Please add me too, for what I'm assuming is the fourth installment in the Quadrilogy of Gak (in cycling the TOG initialism).

Tony

Please put me down for one.

see page 9 of this thread.

Go ahead and add me to the list. I'm sure it will be worth the wait. Counted about 13 cartridges that I either own or reload for a friend. Thanks for the update; based on initial pre-publication interest this one looks like a good seller.

I always try to write about a variety of rifle/handloading subjects, so tried to provide info on most popular/standard rounds, plus some more obscure ones--which tend to result in more experimentation.

Thanks!

I assume its you who called the first three the Trilogy of Gack when talking to her on the phone.

John

Did you include the 351 and 401 Winchester self loaders?

Add me to the list.

Looking forward to it even if the 6mm Rem. didn't make it in. Per an inline conversation we had here a while back I heard it was under consideration. I had mentioned that someone would be whining about it if it wasn't in there, so let me be the first official whiner, (still want a copy, though).

Add me to the list please! Was happy to see the 260 Rem on the list, and the 35 rem and 358 Win which all 3 help keep the deer population in check around here!

I’d like a copy as well

Add me to the list John.

Please add my name to the list for two copies.

Please put me down for one.

not sure if i am on the list ? but please do Pete53

I'll take one, please.

Thanks,


Okie John

My bad.

Scrolled right past it getting to the bottom of the thread.

I'll take one, thanks

Easy to understand! I am somewhat surprised by the number of responses.

On the side will also note have added everybody to the list.

Yep, that was me, John. And I did have to ask Dha Google, what comes after trilogy...

Tony

I’m interested as well John. Thanks.

John please add me to the List! John

I’ll take a copy. Thanks for putting this together.

Please add me to the list as well.

Thanks John.

Bill

Sign up Seafire, to send one to Oregon...

Look forward to receiving and reading it John...

will go to the site you listed and put my order in there, and with payment if payment instructions are there...

Thanks for all you do for each of us Campfire Members... it is well appreciated...

and Kudos to your wife, for editing it for ya....

Please add me to the list
Thanks John

I’d like to get a copy.

Please add me to the list.
Thank you

StarchedCover

StarchedCover,

Put you on he list, along with everybody else who asked since I last checked....

Thanks!

Sign me up.

Put me down for one!

Thanks in advance,
Steve H.

Sign me up I'll take one.

Sign me up, please!!!

Sign me up for a copy. Thanks.

John

Please don't leave me out - I'll beg Eileen (The CEO)

Mark,

You're already on the list!

But so have been several other people who asked--including one who's asked four times. Apparently he wants to be very, very sure!

i migt have missd this answer ? how soon will this new book be out ? thanks ,Pete53

Maybe September, but more likely October.

It's hard to tell, partly because as I noted in an earlier post, "supply-chain" problems are also hitting the printing industry. When we recently reprinted the RIFLE LOONY NEWS, THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, the printing company we used didn't have enough paper for the number of books we ordered. So they printed and and mailed 25 to get us by until their next paper shipment arrived.

All of which is also part of the reason we won't let everybody on the list know UNTIL the books actually show up here. Autumn is also when the vast majority of books are sold in the U.S.

John

great info ! thank you ,Pete53

I'll definitely take one.

Add me to the list as well.

Me also.

I'm interest in those one too.

Sign me up please.

Thanks MD - could you please put me on your list?

Please add me to your list John. Thanks.

Sign me up please.

Make it 2 also- son wants one. Haven't got ahold of SIL, he may also. I'll find out.

Added all the latest names!

Thanks,
John

I'd like one, as well, please.

Please add me to the list
Thanks

Mark

I have the first three. Add me for the fourth.

Put me on the list John - thank you.

PennDog

Please put me on the list.

1 for me please

John please add me to the list as well

Put me down

Have everybody on the list who's asked so far!

Thanks,
John

Please put me on the list.

John, please add me to the list

Please add me to the list!

John, please add me to the list also

Please add me to the list!

Thanks, guys. Have the list updated....

John

Add me to the list, John. Thank you

Thanks, Jorge.

Please add ne to the list.

Thanks

Lou

John,
Thanks for the opportunity. Please put me on the list as well.
Rob

Got all caught up with yesterday's requests. Thanks!

Please add me to the list; looking forward to the read.

I'd appreciate being added to your list John. Really enjoyed the first three.

Good morning John, put me on your list also. Thanks.

John,

Please add me to the list.

Thanks

Have added both you, and Dave93, to the list.

Thanks,
John

Please add me to your list.

Thank you,

Jeff

Please add me
to the list John.

Please put me on the PM list as well.

Just updated the list again. Thanks!

Please put me on the list.

Stan

How do I aquire this?

You'll be able to order it when copies arrive from the printer. At that point we'll let everybody on the list know the copies have arrived, what the price is, and how to order--which can be done either through our website, www.riflesandrecipes.com, or by phoning 406-521-0273. (Or at least that's how most people order. A few still snail-mail a check!)

Right now we're still putting the book together. It's all written, and the photos have been selected, but Eileen needs to put it together on her computer, ready to be printed. We hope to e-mail it to the printer by mid-August--and it usually takes about six weeks for the printing a shipping, so the copies should be here in late September or early October. We're thinking probably October, due to the present supply-chain problems, but it might be earlier.

We put together a pre-publication list like this for several reasons, not least being some idea of how many people are interested, which provides an idea of how many copies to print. But it also gives the folks who are really interested the first chance to order--and receive their copy.

About 75-80% of the books sold in the U.S. each year are sold in November and December, obviously due to Christmas. When that big push starts it takes longer for books to be delivered, so we try to deliver them earlier and quicker to those customers who really want one.

This can be handy for me because I've just picked up one new Speer load manual and probably need a few more handbooks. I ve got the Lyman no47 and the Cast Bullet Handbook and old lyman and speer manuals from way back. I lost my access to manuals and equipment when my shooting partner died awhile back.

Please add me to the list

EastMS,

Have you on the list!

Thanks,
John

I'm in for one too, thanks.

Have you down as well, too!

John

Please add me to the list!

John, please add me to the list too, thanks.

Please add me to the list. Thanks!

Definitely put me on the list John.

John-

It's not clear whether the list is to port or starboard. Regardless, please include me in (on?) it.

Many thanks.

--Bob

Please add me to the list.
Thanks!

Dancing Bear,

Got you down, along with everybody else who asked yesterday.

Thanks,
John

Please add me to the list.

Thanks,
Jerrod

Put me in as well.
Thanks MD.

I am in as well.

Thanks to all--have added the latest names to the list.

John

I'm in also.

im in also

The list has been updated to include the latest requests. Thanks again!

Im in!

Ngrumba,

Added you. Thanks!

please add me to the list
thanks Steve

reo, I added your name....

Thanks,
John

I need one

The list is updated. Thanks!

Count me in.

John,

I’m a go for number 4 also. Please add me to your list.

Rod in Fairbanks

Thanks for the requests! Have everybody on the list.

John, please add me to the list.

While I wait for the new book, I'm anxious to read Modern Hunting Optics. I'll send an order later today.

Jason

Please add me to the notification list - sounds like a great addition to the library!

Thanks for the additions, guys.

John,
Please put me on your notification list. I definitely want a copy of this one.

John,

add me to the list also...

cheers,

seafire

Add me to the list.
Thanks

Please add me to your list

Thanks
Kevin

please add me to the list

Please add me to your list

Have added all the new names.

Thanks,
John

Include me on your list John. Thanks, Roger

Add me to the list please.

Thanks,
David

Hey John, I've been offline this summer and just found this thread. I believe I am already on the list but if not please put me on it!

Thanks
Scott

Scott,

Your memory is good: You are indeed already on the list!

We've had some minor delays in getting the book to the printer, but still plan on it appearing during October at the latest.

John

John, I would love to purchase a copy.

Added your name, thanks!

Thanks to a couple of guys for their PMs. Am all caught up again!

Eileen and I spent a couple hours today working on the printer's computer copy. Still hoping to have copies by around October 1st, but it may be a week or two later.

John

Looking. Forward!

Thanks!

We will probably be e-mailing it to the printer very soon. Right now we're finishing up the latest edition of RIFLE LOONY NEWS, so Eileen can send it to our subscribers tomorrow.

John,
Please add me to the list of it is not too late.

John,

Please add me to the list.

Thanks

You're tantalizing us by mentioning a sale in the Rifle Loony News mailing and not yet offering Gun Gack IV for order.

No reason or need to add me to the PM list - I have everything on the Rifles and Handloading section and most of Hunting Adventure and much of Cookbooks despite having my meals brought around in styrofoam these days; to which add such things as magazine articles reminiscent of Robert Ruark's Old Man and the Boy with tales of taking a '97 after birds - I'll be ordering as soon without a PM as with.

Although I've seen past iterations of loads that work in books and on Loaddata I'm hoping for something new on the .30-40. I suppose because in the Krag any .30-40 load would be the equivalent of a drastically reduced load in other military cartridges even of the era such as the .303 Brit I'm finding nothing for heavy bullets with powders newer than 4350 and Reloader 15.

Clark,

Thanks for buying the books you mention!

But apparently you mis-read the announcement in RLN: The book hasn't even appeared yet, and we won't know exactly when it will appear or the price until we receive copies, probably in October.

The .30-40 and .303 chapters mention how much handloading for both rounds is similar. While both H4350 and IMR4350 appear frequently, there are also loads using Accurate 2015, H414, IMR3031, Ramshot Big Game, Varget, and VV N540.

Have added all the names of Campfire members who PM'd me in the past few days.

Thanks,
John

Hi John, please add me to the list.

Have you down, thanks!

Need one for the grandson for Christmas.

Please add me to the list.

Thanks, guys. Have you all on the list.

We're getting very close to sending the book to the printer, mostly just rechecking details. Looks like we'll probably have copies in early October--if the printer doesn't run into supply-chain problems.

John,
If it's not too late, please add me to the list. Thanks!

Please add me to the list.

thanks!

Add me to the list
Thanks
Mark

If it’s not too late add me to your list!
Thanks John

Have you down.

Will be adding names to the list until we receive the actual books. The folks on the list will be first in line.

Just ordered mine

Add me to the list as well. Looking forward to it.

Thanks! Added your name.

John

I find copying your loads greatly improves my outcomes! Sign me up!

Good to hear about your outcomes!

The list is updated.

If you would JB I'd like to get on that list also. Magnum Bob

Please put me down for one as well!

Please add my name to the list for one copy.

Thanks, RS

Hi John, please put me down for a copy.

Gotcha!

Thanks,
John

Hi John, please add me to the list.

Please add me to the list. Have a nice weekend.

Steve

Have you down, guys!

Please add me, too!

You got it! Thanks.

John: please put me down for a copy! Thanks!

Hello John

Would you put me down for one also. I keep losing the magazine....:-(
Thank you

Graeme

Hi Graeme,

This includes a number of loads with newer powders than the magazine article--if you can find them!

Thanks,
John

Please put me down for a copy.

Regards,

Larry

Please add my name.

Any info on release date? I have not read back through the thread. Just thought about it today so I thought I might better check.

We have had a few delays in getting it ready for the printer, due to unforeseen circumstances, but Eileen plans to e-mail it to them this week--and we usually have copies delivered about six weeks after that. So if everything goes as planned, mid-October.

Thanks for the update JB!

You're welcome!

Still on schedule right now. We're going to check everything one more time and zap it to the printer.

Hopefully not too many Enduron loads in there.

Good one, Mathman. That was funny!

That stated, if there are many Enduron loads in the book it wouldn't bother me too much. The historical data could maybe be useful to some. Or, a story in itself of extinct powders?

Man, this Enduron situation is worse than the RS Big Game shortage awhile back. And that sucked bad for some.

Enduron seemed like the stop gap for some of the Hodgdon Extreme powders, but now they are gone all together. Can't get too dependent on any one component?

Gonna look at that today, since we're giving one last proof-check before zapping it to the printer. I know there are some Enduron loads, but not many compared to Hodgdon, Ramshot and Alliant, or even Norma or Vihtavuori.

Plus there will be some Endurons in various loading rooms for a while. Checked my supply, and have almost-full jugs of 4166 and 4451, plus 2-3 pounds each of 7977 and 8133, which I don't use as much.

But am sure as hell NOT going to include them in any upcoming handloading articles!

I have enough 4451 to assemble a bit over 400 rounds of a couple of particular hunting loads for my 243 and 6.5 CM. I'll be fine for a long time.

I'm late to the game, but please add me to the list. Thanks!

You're added!

Thanks,
John

John

Based on the response here you might have to order a second printing. I think you have hit the target audience perfectly.

I own more books written by John than any other author!

One rifle

onerifle,

Glad you like my books!

As I mentioned in a much earlier post, one reason we do this is to get a handle on before-publication demand. Between this list, and the one Eileen's been compiling, we already have close to 300 requests, so will probably order at least 1000 for the first printing--and maybe more.

John, Please add me to your list. Thank you

I can think of only one author with more books on my shelf than John. He is Konrad Knopp, and if you consider my screen name you may know why. John's books get opened a lot more than Konrad's these days.

Looks like I've been away too long from this site. I'm in for a copy plz

Thanks very much!

Have added those who requested to be, both here and in PMs.

Are they ready for sale now J.B?

It still looks like mid-October....

Just making sure I'm on your list. Don't recall getting a PM. Thanks

Just checked, and no you weren't on my list--though you may be on Eileen's, who's also keeping one. So I added you!

The PMs I mentioned referenced a couple dozen guys who PM'd me to be added, rather than posting publicly on this thread.

Thanks,
John

It bothers -saddens - me to read of a first print order of only 1K given a population over 332,403,650 people in the U.S. of A. and many more literate in English around the world. Not a personal criticism I hasten to add; rather more power to you and wishing your sales numbers matched even one percent of some folk's YouTube subscriber count.

I'd have hoped to see far more copies of your books in print. Maybe we will eventually. The Thor Power Tool decision and a myriad of other influences have been hard on book publishing small and large. Bob Hagel's book was the last that comes to mind by a major publishing house - Knopf - and reprinted by Wolfe with other books by specialty publishers.

Put me down too please.

I'm in for one as well.

Clark,

I can assure you that our little publishing company is doing fine. In fact it has funded at least half of our retirement investments, one reason we started the company a dozen years ago.

We rarely order more than 1000 books at a time, and sometimes as few as 250. There isn't much of a price break when ordering more than 1000, and often none at all, so ordering more at a time only results in complications--and even more expenses, such as storage.

Right now we have almost 20 different books in stock, between Eileen's game cookbooks, my gun and hunting books, and the paper copies of RIFLE LOONY NEWS. About half are stored in our garage, and the other half in what I facetiously call the "warehouse," a 5x10 foot storage unit a few blocks from our house.

That's the big advantage of so-called "on demand" printing: Any time our supply of a certain book gets low, we can e-mail our printer and have another batch delivered within a month. Some of books have been reprinted several times, especially the first one we self-published, Eileen's SLICE OF THE WILD, a "cookbook" that covers big game from field to table, including the science of meat care, how to butcher, what's different about the meat from various animals, and 100 recipes. It just keeps selling--but there was no economic advantage in immediately printing as many as we've sold since it appeared in 2009.

The real puzzlers in our stock of books are the paper copies of RIFLE LOONY NEWS, the quarterly on-line magazine we both write. We started publishing it on riflesandrecipes.com, at the same time we published SLICE OF THE WILD, and when anybody subscribes, they get free access to all the previous issues on the website.

But after about three years, a few subscribers suggested we publish a printed book of all the issues of RLN. There were several reasons, such as wanting a copy for deer camp, where there was no Internet access, or to put in the bathroom instead of a pile of print-outs. (One guy even sent us a photo of his stack, next to the toilet....)

So we asked other subscribers if they'd be interested, and many said yes. So we put published a collection of the first five years, which filled an 8-1/2x11 inch, 269-page book. This was easy to do, since all the issues were already on Eileen's publishing program--but we still had doubts about how well they'd sell, so only printed 250--and had to order another printing within a month! The second volume, containing the next five years, has also sold well.

Oh, and I added Elvis and 308ld to the list.

Thanks, guys....

John,please add me to the list. Thanks

John, please make sure you print a third volume of RLN. I prefer the paper version, too.

Greg Perry

Please add me. Thanks!

jmh3,

Have you on the list!

The book is now in the hands of the printer, so we'll have a better idea of a delivery date fairly soon....

Me too. I don't subscribe but buy the book version every five years.

John,
I would like to be put on the list.
Thanks

Put you down, Casey. Thanks!

I’m currently loading for .223 Rem, 243 Win, 280AI, 7Rem Mag, 30-06, and 300 Win Mag. Looking forward to reading anything you have on those plus others.

Here's the list of cartridges covered, for those who haven't seen it. (Have posted it here already, but it's probably buried way back in the pack by now!)

.17 Hornet (both Ackley and Hornady)
.17 Remington Fireball
.17 Remington
.204 Ruger
.22 Hornet
.22 K-Hornet
.221 Fireball
.222 Remington
.223 Remington
.22-250 Remington
.220 Swift
6mm PPC
.243 Winchester
.250 Savage
.257 Roberts
.25-06 Remington
.257 Weatherby Magnum
6.5 Creedmoor
.260 Remington
6.5x55
6.5 PRC
.264 Winchester Magnum
.270 Winchester
.270 WSM
.270 Weatherby Magnum
7x57 Mauser
7mm-08 Remington
.280 Remington
.280 Remington Ackley Improved
7mm Remington Magnum
.30-30 Winchester
.300 Savage
.308 Winchester
.30-06 Springfield
.300 WSM
.300 Winchester Magnum
.300 Weatherby Magnum
.303 British
8x57 Mauser
.338-06
.338 Winchester Magnum
.35 Remington
.358 Winchester
.35 Whelen
.350 Remington Magnum
9.3x62 Mauser
.375 H&H
.450-.400 Nitro-Express 3”
.45-70

wow ! i like the list a lot should make us looney`s smile ! thanks John

Dang it. No 338 Fed. Oh well, it is the only one in my gun safe that is not covered. I am still buying the book though.

Also no .405 WCF or 45-90 - oh well I am pretty far along with those calibers and need no more help with them.
Both have been proven on PG and DG in Africa, so maybe I could trade that load data for a book?
I also shoot 45-70 in both my 45-90 rifles , so they keep me pretty busy.

Can provide you some .338 Federal loads--and in fact published seven in the first BIG BOOK OF GUN GACK, in the chapter titled "Kinder, Gentler .338s."

But didn't include the cartridge in this book for two reasons. First, I've only handloaded for one .338 Federal rifle--and didn't get much feedback from other hunter/handloaders on the results. This book is based on loads that work in more than one rifle.

This lack of feedback also suggests that the .338 Federal isn't very popular, and may even be dying--or dead. My take on the round was that it duplicated the muzzle velocities of the .30-06 with similar-weight bullets--but didn't shoot as flat at longer ranges.

I also never could see any difference in "killing power" between it and the .30-06, despite the slightly larger diameter of .33-caliber bullets (which is basically equal to wrapping a .30 caliber bullet in a typical business card). But that's also because the longer I hunt big game, the less difference in "killing power" I see in most cartridges, unless the bullets are a LOT different in both diameter and weight.

No doubt this will result in some disagreement....

DANG! No .35 SLR??????

maybe the next book can be : THE UNPOPULAR CARTRIDGES OF THE WORLD ? > i have a few too but i think J.B. did a excellent job with his selection of cartridges

No disagreement here. Thanks for the explanation. You did not have to take the time to do it but it is appreciated!

You're welcome!

Things are progressing with the printer--they'll be e-mailing back their layout any day now, so we can check it over and give the go-ahead.
So we're still looking at mid-October for the copies to arrive here.

John, is it too late to be added to the list?

I think I am on the list, but if not, add me please

You're both on the list. Thanks!

Please add me to the list as well. I’ve been keen for this ever since you wrote the first Handloads That Work article years ago. I’m still impressed. Especially that .300 Savage load with 165gr and 42gr RL15. I’m pretty sure that’s where I first came across it. That’s a stunning shooter in the 3 rifles I’ve tried it in and in the rifles of a couple buddies I’ve passed the recipe on to.

Add my name please.

Please add me to the list as well


Thanks

Please add my name, I'll take one.

Thank you

Have all you guys down. Thanks!

Add me to the list as well.....

Mike,

You were the first person to ask to be put on the list!

Hmmm. I thought I was the first to pipe up on page 1 of this thread. I did so even though I suspect .43 Reformado, .30-30 Wesson, and the Marciante Blue Streak won't be covered.

Thanks John....CRS!!

Yep, you were the first to respond on this thread!

But had already started a list, due to quite a few people asking to be notified ASAP in PMs. But you're still #44 on this "big" list....

Also won't be covering the 9x72R, even though I have considerable experience with it--but only in Eileen's O/U combo gun. However, Capital Sports recently got in a hammer drilling in 16x16/9x72R, and nobody has purchased it YET.... We shall see what transpires.

Please add me to the list. Thankyou.

Sent request to be added via PM.

Thanx

I’d like to purchase a copy.

Frank Shaw

Thanks!

Put your name on the list, and will notify you when we're ready to take orders.

Have added all the recent names, whether posted here or sent in PMs.

Thanks!

List has been updated once again. Right now we're still waiting to see the printed proof-copy, which should show up very soon. After giving it the OK, the books will be printed and delivered to us ASAP.

Just saw this............I'd love to purchase a copy. Please put me on the list, also.

Please put me down for a copy John.

Thanks

Can't wait!

Please put me down for a copy also.

Thanks

Please put me on that list. On my way to Horrible Fright to buy a couple Bauer Modular Rolling Toolbox for powder storage.Making room for all my books in 1 place I hope.