338 Federal in lever action?

Think this one would ever be chambered in a 336 or the new 464 Mossberg?

The SAAMI pressure is to high to chamber in the 336 or 464. It could be handloaded to reduced pressure for those rifles but the factories will never offer it.

cutNshot The only future for the 338 federal in a lever action would be browning in BLR, the 99 Savage or the 88 Winchester, or maybe a new lever by some one. Cheers NC

The 338 Federals SAAMI of 62,000 PSI is way to much for the traditional leverguns..They were all tried as a prototype for the 454 Casull Leveraction and all failed at that pressure.

There is the 338 Marlin Express at only 47,500(?) PSI similar to Jack O'Connors... 338x57 O'Connor...

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Sometime after World War II Jack O'Connor, the Dean of American gun writers, proposed a new .33 caliber cartridge. He wanted to drive a 200 grain flat point or round nose bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2400-2450 fps. He felt that this would make an excellent brush cartridge for the deer and black bear hunter, particularly if available in a repeating rifle that offered quick follow-up shots.

O'Connor had done a series of brush penetration tests and discovered that the .348 Winchester performed well, but kicked pretty hard for a deer cartridge. O'Connor's concept was a medium bore cartridge with moderate recoil that the average woods and brush hunter could use for shooting deer, feral hogs, black bear and possibly elk.

Jayco

338 Express would it work ?

Here is a link with Chuck Hawks discussing the 338 Federal and 338 Marlin Express along with O'Connors, .338 OConnor.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/338_marlin_express.htm

Jayco

I had this 88 rebored into a 338-08, just necked up a 308 to accept 338 bullets, I can shoot 338 Federals through it but it
likes my hand loads better.
I'm a lefty, I like levers, I like levers that can do more than 30/30's or 35 rem's.

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Nice Rifle , in a great Cartridge ! Yes sir , she's a beauty !

The first 338 Fed I heard of was actually 338/08 built on a Winchester 88. I liked the idea so much that I bought a Win 88 with a ring in the barrel under the front sight just to convert it to 338/08. I made the mistake of shooting it before the conversion and 15 or so years later it is still a 308 Winchester.

Originally Posted by jbmi

I had this 88 rebored into a 338-08, just necked up a 308 to accept 338 bullets, I can shoot 338 Federals through it but it
likes my hand loads better.
I'm a lefty, I like levers, I like levers that can do more than 30/30's or 35 rem's.

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Really nice rifle.

Just get a Winchester 94AE in .356 Winchester and be done with it!

Rebarrel a Sako Finn Wolf if you can find one...

Originally Posted by ken458

Just get a Winchester 94AE in .356 Winchester and be done with it!

That would be the Big Bore 94. The only ones available on GB are caliber 375 Win, and one 307. There is one Marlin 336 ER if you wanna pay $1200. Winchester 88s are priced like they're gold plated, and Sako Finnwolfs are heavier than a dead preacher.

I say, just get the Marlin 338 express and be done with it for about $600.

FWIW, a year or so ago, I spoke to Jesse Ocumpaugh at JES Reboring about reboring/rechambering a Savage 99 in 300 Savage to 338 Federal, but he advised against doing it, as he had done a couple of them and the owners were seeing signs of high pressure with factory ammo.

www.35caliber.com

I have a Marlin 336 SD that Regan Nooneman rechambered from 35 Rem to 356 Win and like it. I can use either 356 rimmed or 358 rimless brass to feed it. Very deadly on deer with the 180 grain Speer FP and based on the penetration that I'm gotten from the 220 grain Speer FPs, I think that they would be perfect for anything bigger/tougher.

JEff

The factory BLR's are offered in magnum calibers. A rebarrel there might be possible to .338 Fed. The BLR is offered in the .325 WSM, that might work.

Originally Posted by Big_Redhead

Originally Posted by ken458

Just get a Winchester 94AE in .356 Winchester and be done with it!

That would be the Big Bore 94. The only ones available on GB are caliber 375 Win, and one 307. There is one Marlin 336 ER if you wanna pay $1200. Winchester 88s are priced like they're gold plated, and Sako Finnwolfs are heavier than a dead preacher.

I say, just get the Marlin 338 express and be done with it for about $600.

It just so happens that I am currently selling a Win 94AE Big Bore .356 (with no stinkin safety) for $625 on this very forum (classifieds)!! (I know, a shameless plug!)

Originally Posted by croldfort

The factory BLR's are offered in magnum calibers. A rebarrel there might be possible to .338 Fed. The BLR is offered in the .325 WSM, that might work.

The 338 Federal is based on the 308 Win case necked up, so a conversion would be easiest starting with a rifle chambered for one of the 308 family. A magnum rifle would be impractical to convert.

A rebore of a 308 would work. But why not buy a 358 as it's equal to 338 in the field.

Originally Posted by natman

Originally Posted by croldfort

The factory BLR's are offered in magnum calibers. A rebarrel there might be possible to .338 Fed. The BLR is offered in the .325 WSM, that might work.

The 338 Federal is based on the 308 Win case necked up, so a conversion would be easiest starting with a rifle chambered for one of the 308 family. A magnum rifle would be impractical to convert.

Rebarreling to 338rcm would work.

Natman

Do you know of what you speak? I am reading about problems with pressures in Sav 99's bored out from .308 to .338. BLR's are much stronger.

My comment was meant to purchase the .325WSM as an alternative.

Just because that a cartridge is blown out from a mother case does not make it safe to shoot in all the guns made for the mother case.

Originally Posted by croldfort

Natman

Do you know of what you speak? I am reading about problems with pressures in Sav 99's bored out from .308 to .338. BLR's are much stronger.

My comment was meant to purchase the .325WSM as an alternative.

Just because that a cartridge is blown out from a mother case does not make it safe to shoot in all the guns made for the mother case.

Let's take a look at your previous post:

Originally Posted by croldfort

The factory BLR's are offered in magnum calibers. A rebarrel there might be possible to .338 Fed. The BLR is offered in the .325 WSM, that might work.

The first and second sentences say in plain English that it might be possible to rebarrel a BLR originally offered in a magnum caliber to 338 Federal. You may have intended something else, but that's what you actually wrote and that's what I responded to.

Now as far a Savage 99s go (not mentioned in your original post, nor by me), somebody somewhere may be having a problem with a 308 that's been bored out to 338 Federal. If you'd include some links I could give you a better comment on it. I would point out that the 99 was offered by the factory in both 308 and 358, so there is no obvious reason why a 338 shouldn't work, given that the 308 and the 338 are loaded to the same pressure.