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Posted By: moosemike Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/17/14
I just ordered a new one in .270 Win. I see the barrels are finished in gray now as opposed to the old almost chrome finish. My question is are the new AW finishes as durable as the old ones? It almost seems like a barrel coating now and not true stainless?
It's not a coating, just a rough bead blast. The finish doesn't last all that well on the new rifles, prepare to see lots of scratches. The first one hurts the most! grin

Though it seems like the recent rifle matte finishes are better than those from a couple years ago. A guy could almost scratch those with a fingernail.
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
It's not a coating, just a rough bead blast. The finish doesn't last all that well on the new rifles, prepare to see lots of scratches. The first one hurts the most! grin

Though it seems like the recent rifle matte finishes are better than those from a couple years ago. A guy could almost scratch those with a fingernail.


I was afraid it wasn't going to be durable. eek Does that mean that it will rust everywhere it's scratched?
MOstl likely rust where it is not sratched..the bead blasted finish holds condensation.
Nah - it shouldn't rust any different than before.
I hope this thing isn't going to be a POS as it's costing over $700 which is more money than I ever shelled out for a rifle before.
It won't be a POS.
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
It won't be a POS.


Glad to hear that.
I believe they use Aluminum Oxide beads to bead blast the barreled actions on the Hawkeyes. I think the MK2's are just in their raw, if not polished, state. The metallurgy is the same. You'll not see any rust.
Mine has been out in some downpours and hasn't had an issue with rusting.
Posted By: GSP814 Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/17/14
I think you will like your All-weather 270!
Posted By: JMR40 Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/18/14
Some liked the polished metal look. I didn't and consider the dull finish a huge improvement. Because the texture is a little rough it will smooth up in spots that rub against surfaces and create a shiny spot easier than the shiny metal.

I could care less the Rugers are all work horses, not show horses anyway.
I like the target grey finish...
Originally Posted by JMR40
Some liked the polished metal look. I didn't and consider the dull finish a huge improvement. Because the texture is a little rough it will smooth up in spots that rub against surfaces and create a shiny spot easier than the shiny metal.

I could care less the Rugers are all work horses, not show horses anyway.


Good point.
The target gray finish was very nice. I was hoping that they would just switch to that for all their stainless rifles when they decided to get away from the polished stainless.

Originally Posted by huntsman22
I like the target grey finish...


Is that what the Hawkeye All Weather comes in or is that something else?
It's a gray coating that comes on some of the MKII's, hawkeyes and VT's.

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That's pretty cool. I haven't seen that finish on a 77 before.
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
The target gray finish was very nice. I was hoping that they would just switch to that for all their stainless rifles when they decided to get away from the polished stainless.



+1, I agree.
Originally Posted by moosemike
I hope this thing isn't going to be a POS as it's costing over $700 which is more money than I ever shelled out for a rifle before.


Don't worry, I'll bet you will like it quite a bit.
Posted By: cal74 Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/18/14
My all weather .204 has been out in some nasty crap, haven't every really gone out of my way to take care of it.

It's remained rust/corrosion free. It's also one of the most accurate rifles I own.
The matte finish on the Hawkeyes is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!

Ruger should have NEVER changed their finish on the original stainless rifles like the MK/IIs!

HUGE MISTAKE GOING THE THE MATTE FINISH!
Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
The matte finish on the Hawkeyes is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!

Ruger should have NEVER changed their finish on the original stainless rifles like the MK/IIs!

HUGE MISTAKE GOING THE THE MATTE FINISH!
please explain why you feel that way.
Posted By: mmgravy Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
Huntsman is right... that original finish was as tough and durable as it gets.

I took a good friend who was confined to a wheel chair deer hunting for a dozen years that had a M77 stainless in .25-06. It was modified to be shot with his mouth and controlled gun movement with a joy stick. And he certainly could shoot that rifle. He shot a dozen deer with it out to 250 yards over the years we hunted and at the range each year would shoot multiple MOA groups. He was an avid deer hunter before being confined to the wheelchair and when we finally got him out hunting again he didn't want to miss a single minute. As a result we hunted through rain and snow and that rifle was drenched many times. When his death ended our hunting together, the rifle didn't have a speck of rust on it nor a single bruise in the metal finish despite being used hard.

I wish I could say the same about my new Creedmoor. It hasn't been hunted at all and has more "rubs" in the finish than that old .25-06 had after years of use.

I would take the old finish any day over their new matte abortion.
I like the old stainless too and the Target Gray was tough as nails. I've owned a few of each over the years.

As to the new finish, it doesn't bother me. It does show some rubs and maybe freckles a little, but those are character marks. If one wants a Ruger, buy the rifle and not fret it.

The new stainless finish hasn't deterred my opinion of a great rifle.
I prefer the matte finish to the shiny.

The old shiny finish sucked as it shone in the sunlight like a lighthouse across the open sea. But it was fixable with a bead blaster or a can of spray paint. Same with the new finish if it gets scratched and you're worried about such things.

Shiny finishes are for Flavor Flav's bling, not hunting rifles.
Posted By: bwinters Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
I have 3 of the new All Weather. I've hunted the SS UL hard over the past 2 years. The finish does acquires "marks" but it hasn't rusted despite numerous rain/snow events, bloody hands, and plain ole sweat.

As another plug, I did a header into a boulder this year while dragging out my deer. Muzzle first into a boulder. Took a pretty good ding on the outer edge of the barrel but didn't bend the barrel and with a file and fine-grain hone took out the ding. I had to move the scope exactly 1 click - a plug for their mounting system and Leupie scopes as well. I've also dropped this same rifle from a treestand - wasn't tied to the rope as well as it should have been. I dropped one of my other AW Hawkeyes in the dirt/mud while deer hunting in rough terrain. Wiped it off with snow and water, checked the bore, good to go.

These things are dang near indestructible. I'm a big fan of the M70 but the new Hawkeyes are a very good rifle. I have 3 AW Hawkeyes, 3 SS M70's, a Marlin 1895, a M700, and a M98. Guess which ones get hunted the most?! wink
Originally Posted by moosemike
Originally Posted by Dixie_Rebel
The matte finish on the Hawkeyes is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!

Ruger should have NEVER changed their finish on the original stainless rifles like the MK/IIs!

HUGE MISTAKE GOING THE THE MATTE FINISH!
please explain why you feel that way.


The new matte finish is very easily marked or scratched and shows every little scrape. In short, it just looks horrible because of how easily it mares.

The original stainless on the Ruger MK/IIs NEVER had problems like the matte finish. I have hunted for decades with Ruger rifles which had the original stainless and never, not once, did a deer spook from them. And, the original stainless looked and held up sooooo much better!

Also, I agree with the other poster, the "Target Grey" Ruger used to have is an excellent finish! I wish it was still available. My Ultra-light has the Target Grey finish and it still looks great even after being hunted hard for many years!

Ruger should have kept the Target Grey and the original stainless. Their matte finishes flat out STINK!
Posted By: Brad Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
Originally Posted by prairie_goat
I prefer the matte finish to the shiny.

The old shiny finish sucked as it shone in the sunlight like a lighthouse across the open sea. But it was fixable with a bead blaster or a can of spray paint. Same with the new finish if it gets scratched and you're worried about such things.

Shiny finishes are for Flavor Flav's bling, not hunting rifles.


The old polished SS finish (non bead-blasted or greyed) was the worst finish I've ever seen.

About ten years ago I watched a guy across a sage flat during antelope season. His rifle was emitting light like the aforementioned lighthouse. I thought to myself "Ruger." Sure enough, when our paths crossed he was toting a boatpaddle stainless 7em-em.
I agree Brad. My elk hunting partner uses one that is awfully shiny. I always thought his tactic was to just scare them to me laugh.. The target grey finish is pretty good though:

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Posted By: Brad Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
BSA, I couldn't believe it took Ruger as long as it did to go to a bead-blast finish. I've always liked the Target Grey best, but its only available on certain rifles. I believe it's actually a blued finish on SS.

Ruger SS is the most corrosion resistant stainless of any firearm on the market. Stuff is so hard, a lot of smiths refuse to work on them where any milling is involved.
Posted By: 338rcm Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
I've had 8 of them( stainless Mark IIs) bead blasted at $35 ea, no big deal
Posted By: BCSteve Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
I'll concede that the shiny MKII finish showed scratches and rubs less with the glossy "chrome" finish but not a big fan of the look on a hunting rifle. I had my MKII bead blasted shortly after getting it. I just got a .375 Alaskan, the finish is rougher than my bead blasted MKII and it will show some wear but I'll take that over a "chrome" rifle.
I believe that. I actually didn't mind the ss finish on my AW 308. It seemed to be pretty durable:

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The synthetic stock was alright, but I like wood better so I slapped it into this Hawkeye wood stock which wasn't too bad. All in all, the Ruger Hawkey AW rifles are pretty good if you don't mind the heft.
Posted By: PitkinCO Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
I've got an all-weather in 35 Whelen from the run they did about a year ago and I believe it's the target grey finish, although it's my only ruger so I don't have any others to compare to. Haven't had it out in any real nasty stuff yet but it sure looks nice.
Posted By: Deans Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/19/14
I have a MKII all weather that I had bead blasted to knock the shine off the stainless finish. The finish is a slightly darker which I like a lot more and is in my avatar.
Deans - I've enjoyed an M77 All Weather in .338 Federal for a number of years now. Finish is durable and a dull matte. When Ruger begins shipping the American All Weather's I hope my .243Win (or maybe a 7mm/08) proves just as durable. Homesteader.
Hmm...I guess all the animals I've killed with my shiny MKII's have been stupid or something.

Put me down as one who likes the old finish too...
BellyDeep - "I guess all the animals I've killed with my shiny MKII's have been stupid or something." Guess you didn't notice them wearing shades - LOL. Homesteader.
All three finishes work fine.

The shiny is most durable--easily bead blasted if desired.
The grey is the nicest--but not readily available.
The matte is scratchable--but all your doing is shining it a little, not really wrecking it.
I did always feel the old "chrome" finish was something that would be a bit out of it's element when taken afield on a sunny day. I'm sure it's perfect for rainy coastal Alaska.
Posted By: coop4u2c Re: Ruger Hawkeye All Weather - 01/20/14
All the superficial or small scratches on my all weather .35 whelen were all taken care of with a little love with a scotch brite pad. Just blends right in.
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