To suppress? A shame to cut up an old classic but it seems my best option. Thoughts/suggestions?

Both the Ruger American and the CZ 455 have versions with threaded barrels. Either would suit your purposes.

The Marlin is a lot of gun for the buck and I learned how to modify the trigger. I lightly hone the sear surfaces, cut a quarter coil off the trigger spring until I get the pull I want. I cut a nail and put it inside the spring, acting as a trigger stop to control over travel. One screw removes the trigger and the parts are easy to see and work on. And, the one's I've worked with will just about shoot one hole groups. What's not to like and the price is right. And, you won't feel bad about cutting and threading the barrel, something you may not want to do with a Cooper or similar...

DF

T/C Contender Carbine

My wife bought me the 455 American after I told her to buy me the 455 American. I have to say, it has kicked an awful lot of ass.

I'd definitely consider the Ruger American though. Bolting one of those into a Boyds would be awfully tempting.




Travis

I'm with DF. I like my Marlin and it's a shooter. The savage isn't bad either.

Being that I'm stainless guy, that pretty much limits the field to Marlin or Savage. I prefer Marlin, because the factory stocks fit me better. If you were going to swap stocks for a Boyds, either would do. The current count of rimfire bolt guns shows 13 Marlins and 18 Savages.

Thanks for the suggestions. Was thinking along the lines of a Remington 541.

Savage

I threaded the barrel on my Ruger 77/22. Nice gun but not that expensive and extra barrels are not hard to come by if you want to turn it back to original. Personally when I'm not using a suppressor on it I have an AR15 birdcage flash hider on it, it looks kind of neat on a bolt gun.

My Tactical Solutions 22LR (10/22 clone) has a threaded barrel.

Well, if you want to talk about 10-22's...

Walther barrel cut and threaded.

DF

That's a nice rifle DF.



Travis

Nice rifle but am thinking a bolt.

This thread needs persuasion porn.






Travis

My CZ is the most accurate of the six .22's in the house..

Yeah, a bolt gun is quieter.

With this Ruger, the loudest racket is usually the bullet strike followed by the cycling bolt. I do have a buffer pin instead of the steel one for the bolt to hit. That cuts down some of the noise.

It's pretty accurate. Rem Sub Sonic, 50' indoor range. I can adjust the parallax for 50' with this scope. ER is short and you can see how I set the base back over half an inch, drilled and tapped new holes.

DF

77/22 is the closest thing to a "real" rifle you're going to get into without serious money on the table. The CZ is next in line only due to the fact that they don't use 10/22 mags. Really can't go wrong with either of those offerings. The RAR is dang nice for not much money too.

I work in a Marlin service center and quite frankly, you couldn't give me one of their current production rimfires.

I'm a fan of the 77/22. I've thought real hard about picking one up (I've had ... several .. but only a .17 HMR at the moment), then having it cut to 17" and threaded. At them moment, though, on that action I'm thinking either .22 magnum or .357.

The only Marlin rimfire I'm really interested in is a friend's old 1894 lever action .22 magnum ... I didn't even realize they made them. I can't seem to talk him out of it ... scrooge.

Tom

What is the triggers like on the Rugers? Does the 77/22 and the American have the same trigger?

They are not the same. The American's is similar to the Savage Accu-trigger.




Travis

The 77/22 is my favorite for a nice, classic hunting .22, but for your idea, I'd suggest the American for sure, with a CZ like Travis' next. The CZ will likely shoot a bit better, but costs more.

More persuasion porn:

Is that a factory synthetic stock, Travis?

Another option - one you don't see very often. Ruger M77/22 Target. It now has a 6x SWFA SS up top. The target is at 100yds.

Yeah buddy. I had to open the channel a bit but other than that it has been 100% serviceable.

The stock on my dad's RAR is a hunk of schit.



Travis

I own an Anschutz 54 and a CZ. But It would be a disgrace to cut and thread either one. The Ruger American is probably a good choice.

Without question, the RAR is the most accurate 22 I have ever owned or shot.
I literally am shooting squirrels in the T zone at 50 yards.
Mine loves 36 gr cci MM.

More PP:

When your dials look like this, and you're still hitting rats, you know you have a relatively consistent platform in your hands.






Travis

Deflave, what scope is on the 455??

Excellent thread. When I came back to the US two months ago and retrieved my guns from 20-plua years of storage, it was painfully apparent that my Browning T-Bolt .22 is what they call a "salt gun."

Browning sold a number of guns back in the 1960s or 70s with stocks that had been soaked in salt water. Over time, as many of you know, these started to corrode the actions and barrels.

It definitely did mine. What I have today is a "shooter." the interior is clean, but the exterior will never look good., no matter what I do. It does have a nice peep sight. I could even throw on a low power scope.

What do you think? I could see threading this barrel and using it for critters to protect my Jack Russell dogs. I heard the coyotes again last night.

Setting up a rifle to use is always best for a non-collector piece - IMHO. I would thread.

Cutting a CZ barrel is bad business - the barrels taper down towards the muzzle -cut off the taper and the accuracy goes with it.
Buy a rifle that is suppressor ready -I have a cz 455 like Deflaves waiting on the feds approval for the suppressor.

Huh? What?........

I'd just buy a RAR predator. They are already threaded. Don't make this chit any harder than it has to be...

Leupold M8 6X42 with M1's.




Travis

I'd just buy a threaded version of the CZ or RAR or whatever you want.

Buy the time ship your barrel and have it threaded, you'd be half way to a whole new rifle anyway.




Travis

If it were mine, I'd hit it with some naval jelly, prime it, and cover it with Rustoleum or other durable paint; maybe one of the epoxy types. Somebody on here doubtless has dealt with a similar situation.

I've lusted after one of those for a while, but none of the sellers I've queried was willing to certify their gun as salt-free. A couple didn't even respond.

Good handle, Anjin-san.

There are a mess of pre-threaded, factory 22s to be found. I like my Browning t-bolt for a bolt action. However, my 10/22s are more fun to shoot and all are equally accurate. I would recommend tuning up the trigger on any of your 22s for better accuracy. The CZs are nice, but I sold mine. Just like the Browning and 10/22 better.

I have not shot the Savage, but hear great things about the trigger and the price is nice.

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You can do a search @ rimfirecentral -the CZ pro's say the bore of cz rimfires taper down the last few inches of the barrel.
I think I read that the taper starts about 4" from the muzzle.

I was going to buy a CZ Scout to keep from cutting the barrel on my cz style -glad I didn't do either.

Did you know that some top end pellet guns have a smoothbore barrel with only the last couple of inches rifled.

what ammo does it like?

Sycamore

That's pretty cool stuf there flave..

I have a local Smith that threads my barrels for $90 AND he makes a custom thread protector. Told him his price was low but... Wait time is a couple of weeks or less.

I adore my CZ 452 American.

CZ is good for the money/accuracy. If you want the best Anschutz.

All of it.



Travis

That's pretty good. I was figuring $100 for the work, $40 for the round trip.

Follow your heart.



Travis

Tell that to the gophers. Grin...



GFY,
Dave

There are some factory-threaded CZs around. Even a handful of 512s, semi-auto, but they seem to be 1/2-20, so you'll need a thread adapter for most cans.

I went through a Savage FV-SR. Spent way more time and money than expected trying to make it not an embarrassment in fit/finish and smoothness. OK results in the end, but it turned me into a CZ man for rimfires. Worth paying more in the beginning.

The 455 Synthetic American/Suppressor Ready versions are 1/2 X 28 now.




Travis

CZs are, to employ modspeek, uberkool.

If the Germans had used CZ Americans or Varmints during WWII, you folk in the US would all be speaking German instead of ebonicals.

Now that everyone has accepted the superiority of Euro-gewehr, let's watch this.

Apology to all who've read this thread. Went to the local gun shop this afternoon and it is pretty obvious where all of the current offering lie. They have a bunch of Savages, not a bad rifle for the price, and RAR with are also OK, just don't ever see myself warming to a T-bolt but they are nice rifles. The CZ is the one running out in front of all the rest.

The didn't have a Tacticool in stock but the Lux, Sporter, and Mannlicher were all nicer than the competition. CZ is offering a "Combo" in their sport verison - a 22lr AND 17HMR barrel which one can own for a little over $500. I've asked my local guy to give me a price on the combo and a Tacticool(dumbass name)with two barrels.

Probably a good choice. I wanted the Tacticool initially but ended up getting the sporter type.




Travis

You know they sell a factory version in a Manners stock as well?

Not sure how much you wanted to spend.




Travis

I own a room full of rimfire 22s. The CZs are hands down the m most accurate.The BRNO #1 is my favorite but it is not threades. I also have a 456 which is a cutdown Model 4 target rifle. The BRNO #1 will group 10 rounds in 1" at 100 yds when I do my part.I have an old Remington 34 that was threaded when I got it. It is pretty accurate as well as a 241. A friend has a threaded #1 and he routinely kills rock pigeons with it. They sit still for 3 seconds.A Savage 87 might be a good choice. They are accurate and great off hand shooters-and cheap.

A Remington 541 is a good rifle, but they made a lot of them and I wouldn't feel I was desecrating a classic by threading the barrel. Think of it as "upgrading" it and go for it.

I wouldn't cut on my grandfather's target rifle or an antique rifle, but anything else I have is fair game. I'd probably suppress my 39a if it weren't for the need to remove the suppressor to load the rifle.

Never mind, I was presuming you already had the Remington.

No apologies needed, it was fun. I guess I wouldn't/couldn't thread a CZ FS rifle either.

Does the combo come threaded?

CZ's Tacticool model comes with a threaded 16 1/2 barrel. I only see the Sporter offered as a combo and it is not threaded. I asked for a price on a Tacticool with both an extra barrel.

Manners stock for a CZ 455 is $521 = pass. I'll put the money into a scope.

Having looked at the threaded CZ 455s, I am coming around to the idea that it makes much more sense to go with with one of those –– despite the all-in cost including can and license –– rather than horse around trying to modify my Browning T-bolt, (I'd have to lose the pretty fine peep sight to thread the T-bolt.)

It cost me a pretty penny (don't ask!) to get my four little JRTs to the US, not to mention how the kids would feel if we lost any.

Another option might be something like a Benjamin (Marauder?) .22 or .25 PCP air rifle, but it might not be very fast to put into action.

My yard is very hilly and while neighbors are not that far away, I'd almost certainly be shooting into the ground or a backstop. It is very rocky, though, so that might be a concern. BTW, we have cougars around here too.

Anjin,

Just get a can and the threaded 455 American Synthetic. You'll never look at BB guns again. Buy lots of sub-sonic ammo too. There is nothing like 'em.




Travis

I have an RWS model 48, a side cocking .177. It is accurate, has a decent trigger and with light pellets in the right conditions will deliver a sonic crack. I don't find it all that much fun to shoot although starlings hate it. I'll try peddling it when my CZ is setup.

I've decided against the 17HMR barrel, it just doesn't work for me.

I will look into it. BTW, had the family in the car at 9 pm last night and we all saw two coyotes run across the road as I turned into the two-laner just off the Turquoise Trail that leads to our house. It was about 1.4 miles away, but I heard them howling again at 5:15 am.

The two coyotes looked to be at 30-35 lbs. each and they sure moved fast. In a pack, as no doubt they were, they'd be a handful for my dogs.

If you want them dead, now is the time.

They'll only get smarter once the season starts.




Travis