Gentlemen, I'm hankering for a medium bore, and have been considering both of these fine cartridges. I'd like to hear some opinions of preference based upon experience. There are a lot of plus-minus lists I could make comparing the two of them, but I've had no experience with either one. Please share!

The "What for?" would be elk, deer, and bear in mountainous areas. And I have a caliber gap there. And because I NEED it (the spouse doesn't believe that reasoning anymore, but she humors me, and I expect the same here).

I'm currently leaning toward the Whelen at the moment for the ease of brass acquisition (reforming '06) and the fact that I already have several bullet molds up to 230 gr in 35 cal for plinking and some hunting.

I have several of both, I prefer the 9,3x62.

A 250 9,3 Accubond has a much better BC than the 225 .35 Cal Accubond. In fact, so does the 286 Partition.

I shoot cast in both. I have a 285 .35 cal mold as well as a 285 9,3.

On game (pigs and Whitetail), they perform similarly at the distances I have shot game at; all under 200 yds to date. On paper though the 9,3 has the advantage and I'd choose it were I hunting Elk again since my last Elk was taken at 250 yards.

Had a Whelen and now a 9.3. The Whelen gives more load options from 250grs on down, the 9.3 from 250grs on up, can form brass from 30-06 Lapua for the Whelen and 9.3 brass is available from Lapua..... either killsas well as the other.

So it really depends on the species hunted.

This ^^^^

Side note: 9.3x62 PPU brass found in the Prvi Partisan ammo is pretty decent stuff as well. And less costly than Lapua. Heck, you can buy a box of loaded 9.3x62 Prvi for less than $25 most days.

To me for a handloader the 35 whelen is the hand downs choice due to the selection of component bullets, parent brass and volume of load data. If you're planning to shoot cast, the 35 bore is IMHO hands down the best caliber due to the huge availability of molds from 90-280 gr.

That said, if you're looking for factory rifles and are planning to hunt internationally where you might need a rifle chambered in a round that you can get factory fodder for in country, the 9.3X62 win's the race.

Either round is an excellent choice for the larger game species.

If you have any thoughts of hunting Africa and buffalo the 9,3 is your choice, hands down. It works and is recognized and allowed most places. Actually, for $50-$100 you could use your '06 most of the time.

If hunting here the 35 gets the nod, IMO. I've used both and like the extra oomph of the 9,3. It can be brewed up to close to the 375 H&H FM or shot at some distance with 232gr and 250gr bullets. There are plenty of great 9,3 bullets offered nowadays, so the 35 doesn't have that advantage cornered.

I can actually find 9,3X62 ammo cheaper and more readily than I can the Whelen.

I was in your shoes for about 2 years now. first it was 338-06, then the 35 and I just stepped up to the 9.3. If I Ever make it to Africa or up north for the big bears. I want to have enough gun.
Just ordered the Sauer 100 classic xt in 9.3.
buds had one for $644. I've been eyeing donors but after all said and done, this is going to be sweet.

+1 more. I poured myself into analyzing the 338's, 358's, 9.3, and 375's and I concluded that it came down to the bullet construction. Most of the 358 bullets have American game in mind (deer, elk, modest size bear) and suited extremely well to those sizes of game. They will dump most of their energy into a shorter amount of tissue than the 9.3 and 375 bullets. There are exceptions, but spend some time looking at the SD's of most bullets in the 358 and 9.3 calibers and it will be obvious.

Honestly, it wouldn't have been a decision until Barness put out some 9.3x62 data that I saw a few years ago. It seems a shorter step from H&H loads than I used to think, at least with careful handloading. I can't say I'll never go to Africa, because I wouldn't turn down the chance, but it's not in the financial plans currently.

Some years ago, I put together a plan to get a Savage action with a std length mag and .473" bolt fact and put into a good stock, then get barrels in 25-06, 30-06, and 35 Whelen. I already have a very accurate '06, and no longer have any desire to own a 25 cal anything, so I'm thinking just a medium bore in the right rifle now. The right rifle will be a lefty, with a Bell & Carlson stock that Remington has used on some of its rifles (if I can get it in LH). Maybe a re-barreled 700LH. Not sure yet. Was looking at CVA singleshots in 35 Whelen on Gunbroker last night. May have to snack on a cheaper single shot until I can find or put together what I'm looking for. Since I'm in my mid-40's, I struggle to be happy with factory guns anymore. Seems like there is always something I want in a different configuration. The LH thing doesn't help.

I went to Midway USA and counted the number of jacketed .358s and the number of jacketed .366s
The 9.3s actually outnumber the .358 now.
But as was said above, many if not most of the 35s were designed with thinner jackets then the 36s so they would probably work a bit better on deer, but on elk and up the .366 seems to get the nod. That's an overview, not "thus saith the LORD". A Nosler Partition or a Barnes X is going to be about the same from either bore size if weight is close. The 9.3 is a bit faster in most cases for the same weight of bullet, or the same speed with more bullet weight and a bit more diameter.

Bullets go from 232gr to 320gr in .366"
They go from about 200 to 250 in .358"

You won't go wrong with either one.
Me personally, I like the 9.3 a bit more.

I was reading some reviews and guys are pushing 9.3, 250 accubonds ad 2700.
I also looked into the 35 reloading with RL15 and guys are getting close to that with 250gr.
But the 9.3 has More options to go heavy

I have both too, for your intended purposes I'd go with the Whelen, but, 320 grains at 2400 or 250 grains at 2600, boom, dead, boom, dead, they both work exceedingly well at everything I've pointed either at, and both provide equal accuracy.

Actually 35 cal bullets go from 180 - 310gr and if you include Cutting edge bullets both the Whelen and 9.3x62 have even lighter bullets available.

I have said it before that it is a lot like comparing a 270 Win to 280 Rem there really isn't much difference between them. If you are a heavy bullet kind of guy then the 9.3x62 might be the best, if you like bullets in the 200-250 gr range than maybe the Whelen is the one for you. Of course you could load a 275 gr Woodleigh in your 35 Whelen or a 232 gr Norma Oryx in your 9.3x62

I only have a 35 Whelen right now but would love to add the right 9.3x62 just because one day, they are both cool rounds.........

35 Whelen A.I.! Conundrum solved!

I used one for 20yrs, never had an issue with brass even though my loads, as it turned out later, were really up there! I could get 2414fps witht he 310 Woodleigh and R15; and 2750 with 250PT/R15/215M. My basic load was H322/200X/TSX/TTSX for 2950fps. I used 2015br/250X my first plains game hunt in south Africa and only recovered two- lengthwise shots on zebra and kudu. Next time I took the 35 WAI (3rd trip) I used the 200X, it did the same thing on game as the 250x! Its a good one, but I used new, fireformed brass for all my hunting loads and never had any issues. I also played witht he 9.3x62 and 286gr bullets. I never killed anything with it, but the 250gr seems to me to be more useful in the elk mountains. I was not as confident on longer ranges witht he 9.3 as I was the Whelen AI. Now, I know several guys who use 24" standard Whelens with newer powders and 180-225 and get wonderful speeds. So, if one isn't into the Ackley thing, that's a good choice. I did killa nice Eurasian hog with that 310 WAI load, at 30yds it made a 40cal entrance and a 75 cal exit hole, mush in between! I was impressed. I was also with my SIL when he used his 9.3x62 CZ carbine and the 286TSX on a 300+ pound hog at 20 steps that went between the eyes, through spine and stopped in shoulder (slight angle) recovered the bullet and it was textbook. It also "stopped" that hog right there! However, right next to it, a friend used his 30-30 Ackley and the Speer 170HC to do the same thing! So...have a ball!

I like Lapua and Norma brass.....

And if you include the .357 pistol bullets, you can go down to 110 and less. Swift makes a 158 A-frame which loaded over a case of Trail Boss will make a relatively quiet, short range deer load. At those speeds, a plain XTP would work, too.

Seems to me that as so often in a hobby there are logical rationalizations but emotional reasons actually settle the issue.

Logically, if you have molds and actually do shoot a lot of cast bullets that's an unmet argument for the Whelen. Even there I would, all else equal which it never is, prefer the 9.3x62 for hunting traditional game with cast bullets.

On the other hand there isn't that much to choose on the brass issue. .30-'06 can be readily fire formed, even indoors at least in the garage, to a perfectly workable 9.3x62 to take all the book loads.

I suppose like 6.5x55 there are differences between the inch and metric brass that may well matter at the margin but for all practical purposes and certainly in several CZ chambers the .30-'06 case does just as well in the 9.3x62 as in the Whelen.

I'm a Whelen guy, with a 700 CDL and 7600. Ain't nothing I'd hunt with a Whelen I wouldn't with the x62 and vice versa. Both very versatile cartridges.

I'm drifting to the Whelen today, because I already have molds, and because I'm quite happy with the slew of jacketed bullets out there in 35 cal.

I appreciate the continuing input, however. I likely won't drop any cash until the end of October anyway, so no decisions will be final until then.

I had 9.3x62 on a Model 70 action with a Lothar Walther barrel. It was very accurate with 232 Normas and both 250 and 286 TSX. I used Graf's brass and either RL15 or IMR4064. Performance on game was impressive. I bought a nice lightweight Sako Mauser in 375 H&H and let the heavier Winchester go.

I have had both and couldn't tell much difference. Plenty of heavier bullets (275-300) for both. Better selection of 200-225's for the 35.

I wouldn't bother with either again. Couldn't see much of an improvement over a 30-06 with 200-220's. When you need more than a 30-06 you should get a 416 or just be very precise with the 30-06.

Don't believe me...ask 458Win.

I have both

Find the rifle you like

Then see which caliber it is available in

The problem is the choice of rifles are very limited in those calibers.
Some deals pop up here and there, and then they are gone in a hurry.

Given that I am a lefty, I know of no recent manufacture bolt guns that are factory std in either caliber. It will be a semi-custom proposition.

OR you could buy a 338-06 which will kill anything in the lower 48, shoots as flat as a 180 06' and kicks less.

Heck I even have two and one is for sale---- cheap !

I have both in LH

1. Ruger MK2 LH 35 Whelen AI Rimrock stock converted to LH shoot 225 NP, and 250 Speer prob my most used rifle.

2. Win 70 LH 9.3 X 62 ,Pacnor 22" SS barrel, Mcmillion Edge stock 250 N AB or 286 NP

I'm probably not with the crowd. I went 35 Whelen. For one thing I too shoot cast bullets a lot. I own several 35 caliber rifles. 358 Win, 350 Rem Mag's, and a Whelen.

The heaviest bucket I use is 250 grain Nosler Partition and 250 grain Hornady Interlock. The detractors will say the twist rate is too slow for heavier bullets. Yet others will say that a 338 Win Mag best bullets are 200 - 210 grain.

I suppose it will depend on if you're going to Africa, if you shoot cast bullets, if 250 grain premium bullets are too puny for your needs.

SAKO has a lefty 9.3

there is one on gunbroker

I went with the 35 Whelen AI - you get very similar ballistics to the 9.3 and you can still shoot standard Whelen ammo in a pinch. I would certainly not be against the 9.3, but I had an '06 donor rifle and the smith had the AI reamer sitting there, so that made the decision a bit easier. Had a second one built because I had everything to reload already. Next one might be a 9.3.

I have owned a Whelen for a long time now but still haven't loaded a pistol bullet. Going to have to change that and come up with a Trail Boss deer load like you suggested.Should be a fun project.

Sports afield has a story on the 9.3 this month

I am loading 225g nolsers in the 35w and 230g perigine 9.3's In the next couple weeks
Hoping for 2800fps

I will tell u what happens

Zastava's 20" FS and standard 22" both are available in LH, and at very decent prices. In Canada, that is. I don't know about the States.

After having owned a M7400 Remington in .35 Whelen (and a single-shot NEF in .35 Whelen), I'm very impressed with that cartridge when the chamber/action allows long-seating of bullets. I'm talking 2550 fps to 2635 fps from the 250 Speers and Hornadys. Shot a good bear with the 7400 using a 200-X at 2835 fps.

I went looking for another .35 Whelen and came home with a 9.3 x 62 Tikka T3 Lite. It will fire the 286 Nos Partition at the same max speed as the 250 in the Whelen. Easily over 2700 fps from the 250 AB and over 2400 from the 320 Woodleigh PP. There is really not a lot of comparison between 3750 ft-lbs from the Whelen and 4365 ft-lbs from my 9.3 x 62. The 9.3 x 62 is readily available in Canada, as well as components for handloading. You would be hard pressed to find new .35 Whelens and ammo. Remington is the only source when available. It isn't all that popular on this side of the border. The 9.3 x 62 has become a hot number.

In my considerable experience with a number of mediums, including .338 Win Mags, a .340 WBY, .35 Whelens and a couple of .375 H&Hs, the 9.3 is the overall best in my view when ballistics, weight, handiness and recoil are all taken into account. And at over 2000 ft-lbs at 500 yards from the 286 Nos Part, it isn't just a medium-range rifle. Think of it as a .30-06 on steroids.

Bob

www.bigbores.ca

9.3X62

.35 Whelen

9.3x62

.35 Whelen

Indecision John?

Think John is saying...buy both.

That would be the RLS (Rifle Loony Solution), which I've often advocated and practiced myself in the past.

I was in a Cabelas in Hamburg, PA yesterday with the family, and while the kids were chasing each other around and shooting pop guns with a new friend, I talked about this very thing with my wife. It dawned on me that while I'm sometimes in denial about my Loonyism, she's very aware of and accepting of it. It was a touching family moment.

Skip the Euro trash and go American.

35 Whelen all the way. You don't need 117 different bullets, just one good one.

The good Col. hadn't even seen a 30-06 when the 9.3 was already killing things.

Betcha 10 9.3s for every 35W that has actually killed anything.

The 9.3×62mm (also known in the USA as the 9.3×62mm Mauser) is an 'all-around firearms cartridge' suitable for hunting larger species of animals in Africa, Europe, or North America. It was introduced by Otto Bock in 1905. At a typical 720.0 m/s (2,362 ft/s), its 286 grain standard load balances recoil and power for effective use at up to about 250m (275 yds). The CIP Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) for the 9.3×62mm is 390 MPa (56,500 PSI). [2]

The 9.3×62mm was developed around 1905 by Berlin gunmaker Otto Bock, who designed it to fit into the Model 1898 Mauser bolt-action rifle. [2] African hunters and settlers often chose military rifles for their reliability and low cost, but governments fearful of colonial rebellions often banned military-caliber bolt-action magazine rifles and their ammunition. The 9.3×62mm was never a military cartridge and so never had this problem. Mausers in 9.3×62mm were inexpensive and reliable, too, so their popularity in Africa grew quickly and became widespread.

The rifle "behind the door" in the German colonies.

Field & Stream or Chuck Hawks...

HuntnShoot,

When my book OBSESSIONS OF A RIFLE LOONY was first published, we had a table at a local gun show, with some books at one end of the table and some guns at the other. Several couples stopped and looked at the book, and one guy paged through it and then asked, "What's a rifle loony?" His wife said, "You are, dummy."

That's because he isn't aware he has a problem! Confessions of lunacy are quickly rationalized in our minds however and the confessions become an explanation of the mistakes we have made or our rational and not the characteristics of lunacy and the diseased mind.

Larry Root

Make mine a .35 Whelen, please. Killing deer and elk junkyard dead for 27 years. Happy Trails

Damn right beretz, I love both, and in the case of these two cartridges, a flat nosed 280 gr BBW #13 solid at 2500 fps, can't see why in hell that wouldn't fully penetrate an Elephants head, or a 158 gr XTP loaded down to 1800 fps in the Whelen for a kid or an elder dispatching deer with aplomb, talk about versatility.

I've always thought one of the Swift A-Frame pistol bullets coming out of a Whelen around 2400-2700 might be some wicked deer killers. No worries of coming apart and they just might be light on recoil too.

I've owned both and "to me" the 35 WAI was more equal to the 9.3x62 than the standard Whelen, but hey, I was loading it way hot too, come to find out. The 24" bbl 35 Whelen and newer powders really step it up into Ackley speeds ( but with normal pressure too) I've owned 3 9.3x62s, the first was a rebarreld Mod 70 FWT Classic and it shot well, but I didn't feel I had the range of my 35 WAI, at that time. I then bought my Marine SIL a CZ FS (he is of German descent) as a Welcome Home present after his 2nd tour in the sandbox. I shot it some before he got home. I later bought a beautiful Mod 77 African in 9.3x62, had it tricked out with bedding/trigger work, etc. Now here is what got me "puckered up"...I had misfires with factory ammo in both the CZ and the Mod 77! I "never" had a misfire with 35 Whelen factory loads and for sure, not with them Ackleyed. Since I had some factory ammo also misfire in a custom .404 Jeffry years before, I got "spooked" about the tiny/rounded shoulder on the 9.3x62 cases, as some are about the Whelen! ha My first 9.3 had a Lothar Walther barrel with a carefully cut chamber, so I chalked it up to factory chambers and factory ammo. I was in no mood to "fireform" each 9.3 cases as I was already doing that with the 35 WAI, so off went the African and the CZ is not my problem. But hey, I "love the idea" of the 9.3x62 and IF I ever have another it too will be a custom and I would use the 250gr for the range I wanted along with the 320 in the woods. That's just me. I used the 310 Woodleigh in that 35 WAI at 2400 (according to QL I was running about 70K!) I had "zero" what we looneys call "pressure signs" either, not with any of my 200x/250x/250PT loads, but they were going 72k!) I used those loads for 20yrs, and I consider myself "blissfully ignorant" and Blessed I had no blow ups or bulged chamber issues! ha I had that rifle converted/rebarreled to 358NM to get those same speeds "safely", then had to turn around a sell it...Obamacare. Now that I have a nostril above water, at least every now and then, I scratched my "Medium Bore" itch with another 338WM. If it ever needs a new barrel, it will be a 358NM too! So good luck, both are great rounds...

Jim's observations about the 35W AI are spot on. The 35 like most 400 W rifles has a tapered cartridge not needed in a modern rifle with good ammo.

As Mike Petrov's research proved the 400 W was damned by not using the correct Whelen/G&H chamber. With the correct chamber it works just great. Had the 35W also had the G&H chamber it would be a far better cartridge. The 35W AI addresses that issue in spades.

The 9.3 still has an edge in ballistics and the range of bullets. The 9.3 has killed lots of Buffs and Elephants, the 35W not so.

Since there is no shortage of nice FN commercial 30-06s out there for around $500, why not have one of each ? Still cheaper than a new 700 or 70.

Once again, a Campfire thread on two VERY similar cartridges ends of up even longer than average, and like a rock rolling downhill, collects slightly more moss.

However, DaShadows last couple of lines proves rifle loonies still have a very fine sense of proportion--as in, why not two rifles in very similar chamberings? This allows us to argue endlessly, especially about (maybe) 10% difference in powder capacity--which amounts to 2.5% difference in velocity with the same bullet weights. Which amounts to maybe 60 fps.

I say get one of each and keep whichever rifle shoots 286-grain Partitions the best and sell the other.

You bet beretz, on the other end of the Whelen spectrum is a mighty 250 gr SAF or Partition at 26-2650, that would smash holy hell outta anything short of Ele and Hippo out to 400 yards.

There is a 280 gr SAF for the .35 Whelen. It would be pretty good choice for eland and down.

Damn right Elk, nothing wrong at all with another 30 grains of hammer weight.

I don't get the talk of greater bullet selection for the Mauser round. Bullets under 100 grains to well over 300 seems to make the Whelen a candidate for greatest bullet selection, and surely it isn't outdone by a 9.3mm cartridge.

Woodleigh makes a soft-point and solid in .358". That bullet weighs 310 grains.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/5...weldcore-round-nose-soft-point-box-of-50

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/6...er-310-grain-full-metal-jacket-box-of-50

Just in case a elephant escapes from the zoo.

I have no doubt they'd work on Ele and Buff if allowed Elk, and you are exactly right HNS, a lot of different bullets from 100 to 310 grains, Squirrels to Moose with aplomb, accurate with manageable recoil, a very versatile cartridge to say the least.

Yup,plenty bullet choices for a .35 Whelen. There is still North Fork, Hawk and Kodiak .358" too chose from. A .35 Whelen owner has a smorgasbord of choices.

Pick one and go forth and kill big game with it.

Thank you for validating my decision to dump my 35s for 36s, John.

One thing that I might mention is that all five 9,3X62s I've owned, some just garden variety old Husqvarnas, shot much better than the 4 Whelens I've owned over the years. The worst of my 9,3s shot better than the best of my Whelens, and I worked like a dog to get the 35s to close up the groups.

Is the 9,3X62 inherently more accurate?

DaShadow: " The 9.3 has killed lots of Buffs and Elephants, the 35W not so." Maybe because the 35 Whelen is not legal for Big 5 in Africa but the 9.3x62 is in some countries?
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The 6.5 M-S and 7 Mauser have killed a lot of buffs and elephants, too. Likely thousands of them. American hunters say some weird, irrelevant stuff regarding African game hunting sometimes, I notice.

Bruce,

In my experience the 9.3x62 is indeed more "inherently accurate" than the .35 Whelen--and that's not just my opinion but that of one well-known accuracy gunsmith. Exactly that should be so is a mystery, but he often compares the 9.3x62 to a "big .308." They're that easy to get to shoot really small groups.

However, the other side of all this is exactly how small groups have to be in order to kill big game, especially BIGGER big game at, say, 300 yards, or even 400. Not many hunters chose either round for shooting beyond 400!

Maybe the anemic twist rate of 1:16 on factory Whelen rifles has something to do with that? My 1:12 Whelen was easy to get great groups with.

That's interesting, and surprising, John. I had no idea of the Mauser's reputation for accuracy. I can't fathom why, other than perhaps the shorter neck.

However, if I end up with a Whelen, and it puts select bullets into the groups that the '06's I've shot do, I'll be plenty satisfied. As you say, there's no call for a long-range setup using the Whelen or the 9.3x62. Maybe I could get a 1:8 twist .358" bore and talk Berger into some experimenting. Definitely would want the AI chamber then....

That has been my experience as well. I built more custom 9,3x62's for customers than any other chambering. All were incredibly easy to get to shoot. I kept a good supply of Prvi ammo on hand for test firing and never had a problem getting one to shoot sub MOA. I have several Husqvarnas so chambered that are also great shooters.

Given that I built Mausers, I didn't do many in .308, but I've shot a ton and would agree with that analogy. Irony is that most 9,3x62's have a fairly long throat and still shoot well. This really messes with those that insist that only rifles with a short jump to the lands can be accurate.

I'm going to hazard a guess here as to why this may be. The 9.3x62 usually comes in European guns which are typically better made than American guns, the Ruger's have a good reputation as well. For the longest time only Remington offered 35 Whelen brass which in my experience varies from lot to lot, some are good others are bad. The 9.3x62 brass again is often European and usually is top notch. I have started loading Norma 35 Whelen brass which has been real nice so far, much more consistent than Remington brass.

Anyway that's my guess as to a couple factors which might be going on here.

I would certainly own a 9.3x62 as soon as my Whelen wears out! And though I have only owned 2 different Whelens both have been capable of better than MOA 3 shot groups. They both had 1-14 twists and loved 250 grain bullets. Beyond all of that I really like the 250 grain Hornady RN. What a bullet, same goes for the Woodleigh 225 RN.

From the OP.

"The "What for?" would be elk, deer, and bear in mountainous areas."


How and why did this get to which has better heavies available and will be better for elephants?

( I would build a .338-06 )

z1r,

Very interesting that you've had the same experience as Charlie Sisk, the gunsmith I mentioned--and yep, European rifles and brass do tend to be of higher consistency.

But he builds rifles on whatever the customer wants, usually American bolt actions, especially Remington 700's and Winchester Model 70's, though he's also built 'em on Ruger 77's. He uses the same two brands of American-made after-market barrels on all his rifles (or at least he did, last time I talked to him about it) and buys most of his reamers from one company.

He's also the gunsmith who built my Remington 700 in the wildcat we co-designed, the 9.3 Barsness-Sisk the .350 Remington Magnum necked up. Like most wildcats, it's totally redundant, since its basically provides 9.3x62 ballistics in a short action, the reason we usually shorten the name to the 9.3 B-S. But we both use Remington brass, the same brand used in most .35 Whelens, and not only my rifle but the couple dozen Charlie's built for other people (including himself) are also very accurate, just like most 9.3x62's.

So I dunno!

John,

You have a much more vast connection with rifle lunacy but I was wondering if you have heard of anybody converting a 1895 Winchester to 9.3X62. I have a very much bubbized 1895 in 30-40 Krag that I purchased for $350. I thought that it might be a fantastic truck or boat gun if I had it converted and then cerakoted.

I've seen at least three that were converted from .30-06 to 9,3x62 which is a fairly simple rebarrel or rebore job. Converting form a 30-40 is more involved due to the .30-40's larger rim. You may need a new bolt and or other tweaks to he internals.

35-40 (30-40 rebored) is popular among cast bullet shooters. No reason why a 9.3-40 would not work. An original 95 is probably not up for 9.3x62 pressures.

You want to t/w Jesse. Top quality and fast turnaround.

http://35caliber.com/3.html

Allow me to "cut in" Kabok (:)) I know the 1895 was rebarelled/chambered tot he .375 Scovill (originally a necked up 9.3x62 case, later done with '06 brass) many have been done in the Whelen. Interestingly enough, the first time I ever "heard" of a 9.3x62 was about 45 yrs ago reading an article in some gunbook...the story was a one armed guy wanted a gunsmith to rebore/etc his Remington 742 to 9.3x62. He was going on a Brown Bear hunt and wanted all the "poop" he could get in a semi. The smith was writing the story and saying what all he had to do to get it to work right ( as did the gent who got a .458 winmag to work in a BAR) and the hunter got his bear. That got me to looking at both the 35 Whelen, 35 Brown Whelen and the 338/06 (really read up on that one and wanted one SO BAD) 9.3x62. Then, as a poor Bible School student in '87-'89 I read about Boddington killing that moose with the new Classic ( which I dearly love) in 35 Whelen. It was not until late '94 that I found a nice used one in the gun rack. By then I had read of the 35 Whelen Ackley ( I was a big believer in my 257 Roberts AI I had to sell later) so I immediately sent it off to Gary Stiles and had it rechambered. I worked up a load of 53gr 2015br/250X to 2550fps, went to South Africa in early '96. The farm owner had never heard of it, so I said "its about like the 9.3x62" and he smiled really big! I killed Blue Wildebeast, Zebra, Red Hartebeast, Kudu and the smaller Oryx. I only recovered 2 bullets, both from lengthwise shots on the zebra/kudu. I was amazed at their reaction when I pulled the trigger...they got that "OMG I've been shot!" look on their face! ha I I used the 200X in 2002 for Black Wildebeast (347yds) and another zebra (250yds) with the same effect as the 250x! Gotta love the Medium bores..

Hmm, they were chambered in .30-06 which operates at 4050 bar and the 9,3x62 operates at only 3900 bar. 50KCup vs approximately 49KCup.

For comparison

22" barrel
I did load the 35whelen to the max 110% full of r17, 3.34 oal, mag primers, 225nolser part.
2784fps, no sign of pressure issues, 59.9k is the calc'd pressure
7/8" group


Ran 275 woodlieghs, 3.44oal, mag primers, r17
2540fps, no pressure signs, 7/8" group also, 59k calc'd pressure
Went one grain higher 3" group
One more grain, bigger group again

Still working on the 9.3 testing

Kaboku68,

Here is a link to a Win. 1895 in 9.3x62 you might find interesting.
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8721043/m/7591084712

9.3x62

I also have the cz fs in 9.3x62. Extremely easy to reload for..it just seems to shoot most anything very well. Has taken elk, deer and pigs with very little bloodshot meat. If you reload then ammo is a non issue as components for both are readily available.
Neither is a slouch but id take the metric.

which page and what month publication?

I see what you did there.


Okie John