can't seem to find any true big bores in stainless steel/synthetic. They are all blued and wood. Only one I can find is the 416 ruger. Just wondering if there are any alternatives at a reasonable price (under $2000) By true big bore i mean anything larger then 375 H&H. I deally a .458 lott in stainless would be nice.. i mean barrel and action stainless. Even if the stock is wood that doesn't matter to me.

Polska - at one time Remington had a stainless steel @ kevlar stocked M700 big bore in .416 Rem Mag and (as I re-call) .458WM from the Custom shop - don't know if they still do. Also, they did have the M798 Zastava mausers in matte stainless steel and laminated stocks with clean barrels. Alas, no longer. Regards, Homesteader

Marlin Guide gun .45-70 in Stainless and be done with it...

not that you are going to be needing even that anytime soon in summer school.

No chain maille today?

ss M70 and rebarrel?

E R Shaw will build one of thier MarkVII rifles in several big bore calibers (416 rem & ruger, 458 win & lott) in stainless/synthetic for under a grand. They quoted me an 8 month wait time though.

Rem XRC II comes in 375 H&H or RUM for well under a grand.

Also, there are still a few stainless/laminate Number 1's on the market in 375 H&H, 416 Ruger, and 458 Lott.

There are also a fair number of New Haven 70 Classic Stainless models in 375 H&H on the market in the $1000 range. I wonder if that rifle will make a comeback anytime soon at the SC plant???

I think browning still makes a stainless 375 too.

So there are a fair number of options in .375 cal, but Ruger did somthing very special indroducing a stainless steel .40+ caliber rifle. I hope they are wildy successful with it.

ER Shaw is building them. I just checked on getting a 375 ruger stainless with walnut built and it was quoted under $800. Their guns are really nice too. I was quoted a year to year and a half wait time though. Thats the way to go in my opinion.

I just checked out his web site. What action is he using and does he do left handed guns?

you should be able to find a Win M70 SS Synthetic in your price range for sure...just keep watching for them in the classifieds...usually from about $1,000-1,200 range

Not that hard to find a Classic Stainless in .375 H&H, but the initial poster stated the following;

"By true big bore i mean anything larger then 375 H&H. I deally a .458 lott in stainless would be nice.."

you can check out the custom shop of Winchester and Ruger! Also take a good look at CZ rifles too. I myself would go the model 70 Winchester route and always have in past decades.

Yea I know. it was the remington 700 SPS Safari or something like that. It was a nice one. I should look around for it maybe on gunbroker or someone is selling one somewhere. I checked their custom shop and they only go up to .338 or .375's now, nothing bigger.

Thanks Homesteader.

I don't know how to re-barrel. Or what that entails

Awesome dude. I will check into it. I mean i'm leaning heavily toward the ruger. Ruger is an awesome company, I also hope they are successful with it.

Homsteader, I found out the name of the rifle it's called the remington 700 safari ks ss in .458 win mag. Can't find it anywhere

I went to Shaw guns and asking them to quote me on a stainless matte 18" barreled right hand 458 lott on a synthetic. Also having them quote different barrel lengths. And with a muzzle break on the shorter barrel lengths like say 18 or 20"

That's why we have gunsmiths.

In your case, all that's required is money. As for the gunsmith, knowledge, talent, and a lathe, are good for starters.

i'm gonna be getting a quote from E.R. Shaw for a 24" matte stainless barrel and reciever in .458 lott with synthetic stock. i'm curious how much it'll cost.

here is a suggestion which was given to me and which I followed for the sort of work you need:

PM forum member Redneck. He can guide you through the process at a most reasonable rate and, in the end, you'll get what you want done correctly.

and if you're looking for a receiver i.e. action please look no further than a M70. find a classsic in either blued or ss and part off the barrel etc it comes with to reduce your overall expenses.

Jeff

I have a stainless Remington 700 XCR with a McMillan Mountain Rifle stock (painted olive) in 375HH that I have been considering putting on the market. It has a Leupold Vari-X III 1.75-6 in Leupold DD mounts. Total package weight is 8 lbs 4 oz. The whole pkg for $1200.00 shipped to your FFL. If interested, shoot me a PM. I can get pics to you too.

RH

Thanks dude, but i'm looking for a .375 H&H

Thanks

E.R. Shaw just quoted me at under $1000 for a .458 lott stainless matte with synthetic stock, not sure the action, this is with a muzzle brake and for any barrel length from 18 - 24". And without muzzle brake under $800. I'm not sure what actions the use, unfortunately the head salesman is on vacation so I can't ask any detailed questions. I want something that is CRF

From the web site, they look like Savage actions. Could be wrong.

Yes I checked they are savage actions. They must make their own .458 lott action out of stainless steel, cause I don't know any out there made by savage or anyone else. Unless they somehow re-make it I don't know i'm not an expert on this stuff.

Sound ideas there... and a push feed...
Wise choices.
Suprised though no bayonet lug?
I hope your chain maille doesn't chew up that recoil pad too much.
Of course then again you're 7'13" 270lbs of twisted steel, and fury... you'll likely be running it with a crescent steel butt.

Good luck with your endevours.

since the m70 factory profile is the same for the 375, 416 and 458 class why not find a ss 375 and have it rebored and be done with the [bleep] around?

Because that would be easy and logical... if you follow Polska's post at all thats two things sorely lacking.

Himmelrr, don't you dare sell that poor innocent rifle of yours to this guy! Makes me think of selling one's daughter to the arabs.

Everyone who is not contributing positively will be notified to moderator. This is not fair for people reading this thread who have to sort through it all. If you just want to come on here to make yourself feel better by insulting me, which really, has no effect, thats fine.. but think about the other people who have to read that crap. You people need to grow up and get a life. Obviously something is missing in your life that you spend all your time getting revenge on people over the interent.

Seriously, buy a lightly used Winny 70 classic .375 H&H and have it modified to a .470 Capstick. You can load up plinkers for it or load it with big solids to kill anything that breathes. I bought my current .375 with that in mind but went ahead and kept it .375. I will build a Cappy someday, it's my heart's desire.

But truly, the .375 is awesome. I check out ammo shelves no matter where I go and there's always .30-06, 7mm mag, and .375 H&H. Anything else, you might as well handload so the Cappy makes sense. Why mess around with little dinky .45 cals when you can do it correctly.

Polska,

you swamp the fire with asinine questions.

The "solution in search of a problem" is your signature style.

Take this recent example - the reson why the market is not flooded with stainless .40+ bores, is because these bores are really only not over the top in Africa - for maybe two of the big five. Africa tends to be dry and warm and if not, there is always a camp/car close by and friendly folks with big white teeth to do a "bwanas" bidding with an oily rag - point is you do not need stainless there.

Second, the boltaction is for these circumstances second pick - behind the double rifle.

Mark that for your next go around - a stainless big bore double. With or without ejectors?

For the in-the water-hippo charge...

Thank me not, I am here to help a guy out.

The sad part is - having yourself a stainless bigbore bolt is so ridiculously easy, it is not worth starting a thread.

Go ahead and have one build. Start a thread on that.
Post pictures - show yourself a DOER rather than a TALKER and you will find the reactions to your posts change in kind.


Now go ahead and report me to the moderator, geez.

Polska, you start these bullschitt threads looking for advice then when you get it from folks with experience, you ignore it and get indignant.
You're like a guy who only reads about getting laid, and tells everyone who'll listen how much tail he pulls.

You live in upstate NY, and post threads about wearing chain maille to fend off attacks from big bears, and mountain lions.



As far as needing to get "revenge"... You would have had to do something to require revenge to be sought. Acting stupid falls far short of that measure. I am just pointing out the ignorance of your posts. You know like an 18" barreled .458 Lott. I feel bad for those who have really "been there done that", and waste their time giving a tit like you help or advice. You wont listen, and you wont do anything anyway.

Now you'll probably post here, and tell me that if I want to settle this like a man I can come to upstate N.Y.
So let me preemptively tell you know two things...
1. Don't talk shchitt you aren't prepped to deal with because some folks are grown azz men. Grown azz men who can afford plane tickets, and actually are from upstate N.Y. and travel regularly.
2. Quit acting like a child, sit the [bleep] back, and listen to the advice some are giving you before you pipe up to act a fool.




Please feel free to report my actions to any mod here that you see fit.
Crying to the teacher is always funny, and usually solves things.

report folks to the moderator? does this mean you're gonna take your ball home, too? c'mon buddy... you asked an initial question and then made the whole thing a lot harder than it needs to be. and going the way of shaw with a lesser quality set of components for a rifle which, if applied to its potential, may be called upon to save your bacon one day makes little sense. if you can get past being given a hard time for being well, kinda stupid to be frank, you'll read some good advice in the words of fellow forum members.

AGAIN, the easiest way to go here is to find a ss M70 in 375 and do one of the following:

1. have it rebored to your 458 class cartridge since there is enough meat in the factory barrel to do so or,

2. send it to someone like fellow forum member Redneck to rebarrel and clean up the action, or

3. send it to one of the good barrel makers and have them do the same thing.

your top end expense should be about $600 or so and you'll have a good, safe rifle. if you cannot afford to do so, get a 375 and learn to shoot it proficiently and you can save your money until you can afford the new barrel.

BUT, you do need to toughen up a little here on the playground.

Dude, it is a 375HH...try reading a little slower.

RH

himmelrr,
Can we start a collection to get you NOT to sell a gun to this kid?...

The gun is no longer for sale, it was a brain fart on my part...too much all-night flying.

RH

i'm tougher than you dude

I like it when you talk dirty.

No problem I meant to say 458 i'm not looking for a 375 and i'm not a fan of re-barreling.

Hey dipschit, you ought to go down to your high school and slap the schit out of your english teacher for they have truly failed you. Let me point out the obvious for you.
Himmelrr said the gun ain't even for sale after he thought it over some.

Wow finally some real feedback. I'm shocked.
Well I don't plan on just going to africa with this rifle. I want this to be used in north america too... i can hand load and lower the power level for deer or non dangerous game... or there is one company that sells low power loads so this rifle will have multiple uses and won't be sitting in a corner for 10 years until I go to africa

i meant to say 458

Damn you sure edit, and delete a lot of posts in a hurry.
Must be that teenage lack of confidence.

P.

good on you. Not many folks get to go by the time they are 27. Familys, careers - lifes even tend to get in the way.

Keep us posted on your build.

well i'm 25 now. Money seems to be the biggest problem now haha. Well I'm not a big fan of africa anyway... too hot for me. I'd rather travel through europe and russia.

notified

and you speak like a 25 year old.

i can see we have a troll lurking about.

Oh jeez stop you're scaring me now... .

Cabelas in Rogers Minnesota has a pristine Browning Safari Grade .458 Magnum for $1500.
It is a bargain compared to any new rifle on the market IMO.
whelennut

Thanks wheel. I looked on cabelas and couldn't find it.

So far i've decided on the following features for my custom rifle from E R SHAW:

1)24" 458 lott, stainless matte finish, no fluting, not sure of how to contour it yet have to talk to sales rep when he gets back from vacation next week

2)They use a savage 110 action supposedly, and I am requesting a controlled round feed action. In stainless matte

3) custom iron sights, probably from new england custom guns, I like their express sights, will go to a local gunsmith for this

4) barrel band will go to local gunsmith

5) Weaver base

6) synthetic stock

anything else such as trigger can be modified also, but will see how stock trigger works

they quoted me at 775 for the rifle with the features above
(no iron sights, no barrel band, no weaver). not a bad price.

It is in the Library which are used high end guns.

Be sure to fill us in on how that works out for you.

UPDATE, they can't build it the way i want, so i'm gonna either buy a 416 ruger alaskan or a cz550 american safari in 458 lott... not sure which yet, at some point i'd like both

Hmmm wonder who tried to tell you that before?...

Polska,

Have you ever fired a firearm, in such calibers..this is a serious question.

B8

Oh ,God........ I think I've got dementia......I thought we went through all this on another thread.........I must be going gargar.....JUST GOING TO SHOOT MYSELF!

Oh ,God........ I think I've got dementia......I thought we went through all this on another thread.....didn't I just say that...I was about about to do somthing , but I've forgot what!

No kidding...I just looked through another thread identical to this, thinking that was the one I posted in.

Oh god.....I'm back here again.........

Aaagghhhh! It's Groundhog Day....all over again.
Where's Andie McDowell?

Andie McDowell????

Where's Andie McDowell?!?

I'm paying attention now.... honest, I am!