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Posted By: ironbender Tenderizer - 10/13/14
Grilled some boneless porky ribs last night.

the striations in the meat led me to believe they might be a bit on the stringy side, so i used a tenderizer blend.

Ingredients: salt, dextrose, papain, and tricalcium phosphate. no added salt and it was too salty when done.

Are there tenderizers where the enzyme 'is not' the third ingredient?
Posted By: eh76 Re: Tenderizer - 10/13/14
Meat Tenderizer
Posted By: eh76 Re: Tenderizer - 10/13/14
Substitute for Meat tenderizer
Pineapple juice, papaya juice, wooden or metal meat mallet

Read more from GourmetSleuth.com: http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/ingredients/detail/meat-tenderizer#ixzz3G3tQbTeF
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/13/14
Have you used the gadget?

I know those juices will work, but will spoil for as often as they are used, and I don't drink umbrella drinks. wink

Posted By: eh76 Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Yep I have used a jacard and and a tenderizing mallet.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
I meant the hole puncher.

Who ain't used the hammer? wink
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
jaccard is the way to go


Posted By: Boggy Creek Ranger Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Agree with that if you don't have a cuber
Posted By: srwshooter Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
hobart. i've used all the cheap tenderizers and nothing works like a hobart. they ain't cheap,but they are the best.the lem hand crank model works fairly well.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
A cuber and a tenderizer are two separate things
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
A friend has one like that with a blade shape rather than a round point. Haven't found one like that locally.

Intuitively, it seems the blade style would work better. Does it matter?
Posted By: eh76 Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
http://www.mrtenderizer.com/
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Thanks, guys. I'll order this Jaccard w/ free shipping from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Jaccard-20034...8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Mister+TENDERIZER
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
I use the jaccard on brisket aint gonna do that with a mrtenderizer
Posted By: srwshooter Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
that thing sucks. mrtenderizer ain't worth buying.

this is the cheapest model i'd buy. i had on that worked pretty well on thin cuts.

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/stainless-steel-vertical-tenderizer/butcher-meat-tenderizers
Posted By: 284LUVR Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Originally Posted by ironbender
Thanks, guys. I'll order this Jaccard w/ free shipping from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Jaccard-20034...8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Mister+TENDERIZER


I have the exact same unit. Mixed feelings from junk to so so based on recommendation Alton Brown' s Good Eats.

Ran a side by side comparison on some sirloin from the same steak.

Worked the damn thing like a sewing machine for about 3 minutes on one piece without much difference between the two.

JMHO
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Originally Posted by srwshooter
that thing sucks. mrtenderizer ain't worth buying.

this is the cheapest model i'd buy. i had on that worked pretty well on thin cuts.

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/stainless-steel-vertical-tenderizer/butcher-meat-tenderizers

That's nice and all, and LEM seems to have a good rep, but I'm not spending $250 (220 plus shipping will make it close to 250 into my mitts) for an occasional use item.

Hell, that's a couple bricks of 22 rim! smile
Posted By: eh76 Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Originally Posted by srwshooter
that thing sucks. mrtenderizer ain't worth buying.

this is the cheapest model i'd buy. i had on that worked pretty well on thin cuts.

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/stainless-steel-vertical-tenderizer/butcher-meat-tenderizers


it was a joke...... nobody has a sense of humor on here anymore but then maybe you bought one and speak from experience laugh
Posted By: 284LUVR Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Originally Posted by eh76
nobody has a sense of humor on here anymore.


I miss DIYguy.
Posted By: jpb Re: Tenderizer - 10/14/14
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
A cuber and a tenderizer are two separate things

I've Googled, but I have found several devices that use both names for the same device... and terminology seems to vary a lot.

Can you explain the difference between a tenderizer and a cuber in terms so simple that even a dumb ol' Swede can follow?

John
Posted By: srwshooter Re: Tenderizer - 10/15/14
only differents i see is some press the meat to flatten and tenderize it. the 200.00 plus cuber from lem and my 2700.00 hobart(that have 50.00 in)both have metal knives that actually cut part way thru the meat. the flatten and cut to tenderize.
Posted By: Boggy Creek Ranger Re: Tenderizer - 10/15/14
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
A cuber and a tenderizer are two separate things


Absolutely correct George but we are talking about tenderizing tough cuts of meat aren't we?
Posted By: Boggy Creek Ranger Re: Tenderizer - 10/15/14
Originally Posted by jpb
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
A cuber and a tenderizer are two separate things

I've Googled, but I have found several devices that use both names for the same device... and terminology seems to vary a lot.

Can you explain the difference between a tenderizer and a cuber in terms so simple that even a dumb ol' Swede can follow?

John


John both devices actually DO THE SAME THING, tenderize tough cuts of meat. A rose by any other name deal. With a cuber the blades cut into or through the meat (depends on width setting) and flatten it as the meat is rolled through. Do it several times and you have cubed steak which is what most all chicken fried steak is made of.

A Tenderizer such as a Zacard just pokes relatively small holes in the meat but does not even it out unless you are using a hammer which is not advisable. You just keep stabbing it as long as you want to.
Posted By: jpb Re: Tenderizer - 10/15/14
Thanks for the clarification on cuber vs. tenderizer guys!

John
Posted By: srwshooter Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
they both try to do the same thing but nothing works like a hobart cuber.
Posted By: antlers Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
Depending on what part of the country you live in, you can actually buy papaya nectar at the grocery store, on the Hispanic foods aisle. It has the enzyme papain in it, which is an excellent tenderizer. The nectar is a liquid that you can soak the meat in, like a marinade. It does a great job on beef steaks. I've not used it with other meat. I've always marinated the steaks in the papaya nectar for an hour or just a little longer, but not much longer. Works great.
Posted By: mathman Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
I don't want to cook steaks that need to be chemically or mechanically chewed in advance.

If an unmolested steak isn't tender then it was cooked too much or wasn't very good to begin with.
Posted By: sse Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
Originally Posted by eh76

I'm gonna get one of those...along with a ricer.
Posted By: 284LUVR Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
Ricer ?

Please explain,sse.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
tater masher
Posted By: 284LUVR Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
Thanks, I remember now.

Used to make wicked good home fries as well.
Posted By: AkMtnHntr Re: Tenderizer - 10/16/14
Originally Posted by ironbender
Grilled some boneless porky ribs last night.

the striations in the meat led me to believe they might be a bit on the stringy side, so i used a tenderizer blend.

Ingredients: salt, dextrose, papain, and tricalcium phosphate. no added salt and it was too salty when done.

Are there tenderizers where the enzyme 'is not' the third ingredient?


Yeah, a BFH. lol
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/17/14
Will a 12#er do?

I just need a striker - I'm an old fugger. wink
Posted By: eh76 Re: Tenderizer - 10/17/14
Got studded snow tires?
Posted By: AkMtnHntr Re: Tenderizer - 10/17/14
Originally Posted by ironbender
Will a 12#er do?

I just need a striker - I'm an old fugger. wink


Maybe you should use a 4#er and hit three times. Suck it up old timer. lol
Posted By: nighthawk Re: Tenderizer - 10/19/14
Originally Posted by ironbender
Grilled some boneless porky ribs last night.

Um, wet cook (meaning covered) and finish on the grill? I do that a lot to save time, can ignore when in the oven or slow cooker. Did that just the other day with "country ribs" which were on sale - cut up shoulder. Perfectly tender.

Still use MSG for beef if I end up with tough stuff for the grill, as in a tasty cut for teriyaki. Sparingly or you'll get mush.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Tenderizer - 10/20/14
It was country ribs in the case I posted. I ran out of time to do them in a crack pot or a low'n'slow oven.

Sprinkled them w/ powdered/granulated tenderizer. If I use it again, probably should be rinsed or H2O soaked for a short while prior to hitting the grill.
Posted By: Raeford Re: Tenderizer - 10/21/14
Yep, just rinse them.
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