Out doing a bit of testing this morning, the 230 OTM's went 2867 fps in my 300 Win with a 28" Krieger 10 twist barrel with 78.0 grs. of Retumbo, easy extraction and normal case head expansion.

Still packing 1725 fps at 1000 yds here at sea level Okleehoma, three went into .221" with no wind, C.O.A.L. ran 3.625"

Been hankering hard for some 210 LRAB's but gave up on em, these should do fine for all NA game hunting and steel banging.

Those should do the trick. Have you tried the 215 hybrids?

No on the 215's, but have heard good things about them, ideally I wanted to build a LR elk hunting load for my 300 Win, the more research I do on the 230 OTM's the more I like them for hunting.

Seems they do a nice job on elk from the various 300 mags, a 230 traveling near 2900 is a pretty serious stick.

I had very good results with the 230's out of my 300 RUM last year. Moose, Elk, Deer and coyotes were fodder for the big bullets.

Great news Bones, was wondering about firsthand killing reports with this bullet, seems if I do my part it 'WILL' handle the rest.

Many Thanks
Gunner

While not conclusive we shot two cow elk with the 230 match target hybrids last year with excellent results.

The 230 gr OTM and target versions have many threads with successful performance on a variety of big game hunts. a recent hunting report is from a guy that went to Africa using a 300 RUM and the 230 target hybrids:

http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/230gr-berger-used-africa-success-138852/

DAMN!!!, taking out tough zebra and wildebeast is a true testament, looks like the OP and my vels are comparable too, good to know, many Thanks AZ.

Gunner

They work really well on Long Range Steel as well...

SWEET! good shooting RCA.

Haven't you guys heard, with the "new" bullets on the market, all that is needed is a .243 for elk, and a .223 for all else..

On Oct. 15 I used a 230 grain Berger OTM Tactical Hybrid to take a 6x5 bull. .300 Win Mag, range 350 yards, muzzle velocity 2775, impact velocity 2400 fps +or-. Bullet hit directly on the near side shoulder bone just above the "knee" and under the wide "blade", made a mess of the lungs near the heart, and I found this in the hide on the far side with no further bone hit. Retained weight 81 grains. The bull went down when hit, no tracking needed, the near shoulder was completely unhinged. You can see that in the pic.
The Berger seemed to do it's job to the vitals well even after the initial contact with the heavy part of the shoulder bone.

Looks like they work good on elk too!

Nice bull!

Just built a .300 hunting gun and have been debating on which bullet to shoot. The 230's shot so well I may have to go with them. I have 2000 208 A-Max though .....


Hmmmmm...

I was gonna use my 22 Hornet but didnt wanna be labled a stunt-shooter.

Very nice bull WC, thanks for the report and pics.

Kissed 10 thou in and bumped powder + half grain and got 2900 even, accuracy remains constant.

This should be a boondocker backup elk load.

How did you get that?



Travis

The dude who won got drunk and it fell off the back of his truck when he drove off.

I hit pressure pretty early with H-1000. My load is 70 grains and off the lands quite a bit. 2750fps

2900 is smokin'

10-4, 28" Krieger and Retumbo, casehead expansion remains the same too at 4 thou.

Hope the brass lives at these levels.

Scored 600 210 gr Nosler ABLR, test comparisons between the two to begin shortly.

BTW, just been eyeballing the two and despite what the box says, I dont believe the 210 ABLR to have a higher G1 than the 230 OTM, G7 on the Noz wont be that high either.

Flight will tell the rest of the story.

What does OTM stand for?


Mike

"Open Tip Match"

Ah thanks Gunner

Yo welcome.

2900 is cruisin out of a 300 win. I'm only getting 100fps more out of a 30-378, RUMS are running at 2950, 26" tubes.

My thoughts too, 28"s of barrel [no brake] and Retumbo seems to be getting along very well with the big 230 OTM's so far.

Foamed out the barrel after 30 rounds fired with very little fouling residue, another plus.

Gunner
I can't find the post now but Brian litz tested the BC of all the accubond long range bullets. It was very interesting and I'll try to find it. He tested a lot of rates of twist also.

The 30cal in a 10 twist were fairly close to published.

Thanks 805, sounds like a bunch of very informative reading, hope you can find and post it for us.

Litz's results were a .646 G1 and a .331 G7 in a 1-10 twist for the 210 ABLR.

Its on long range hunting forum. I just can't locate it yet.

John- do you have the chart Bryan posted? It was pretty interesting seeing the SG with rate of twist changes?

HAHA, as expected, the .730 is a bit inflated. lol

805,

Yeah, I've got the results. Don't want to post it here due to copyright stuff, but it is interesting. The ABLR that comes out best is the 129 6.5, which in a 1-8 twist is basically dead-nuts as advertised.

There's a bunch of excellent info on how twist affects BC in Bryan's latest book, MODERN ADVANCEMENTS IN LONG-RANGE SHOOTING, VOL. 1. In fact the entire book is full of great research and results. For anybody who has his first book, this one's a great follow-up and just as essential.

805, is it here at the 'fires long range hunting forum or somewhere else on the www?

Thanks
Gunner

I need to get that book, especially if I'm gonna start playing with the wind and bullets again.

Thanks for the hit MD.

Gunner here you go!
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/nosler-lr-accubonds-bc-testing-results-137554/

John
I am planning to get his book very soon. I know Bryan is also testing the matrix bullets as well. I can't tell you how many times he has explained or helped with so many questions I've had. Great guy!

Thanks 805, 'bout bed time here, will read that in the morning over a hot quart of 115 octane joe. lol

TTT, here you go Strick9, a whole thread on the 230gr Bergers from my 300 Win Mag.

Good enough for me Gunner, I will try some Retumbo in the Rum and see what shakes out. Thanks partner!