Soooo,

I've had really good luck with 135 JLK's in both of my 6.5 SAUM rifles the past few years, so I just duped the load, and BTO over to the Hornady offering.

Shot three at 100 here at home to see where the POI was,(all good)and headed out to a buddies range out in the hills.

60*F, wind 10-15 from the NW, mostly a headwind, with some push right to left, no mirage. There is wind here 90% of the time.



Nice setup, with a target rich environment out to 1100 meters.





I've got another couple hundred to play with....so far so good.

FWIW, they were 2/10ths flatter than JLK's at 1000, at the same velocity.

Schit, I posted the same pic twice...…..8/10ths holdoff for these three.

Thanks for the report Pat...

Curious how they'll do on flesh but I can guess...grin...

Great report. Thank you Pat

👍

Holy hell, nice shooting!

Did you have to soap them to get them that slippery?

Great shooting !

I'm seeing the same results. 5.7 at 1000 vs. 5.9 with JLK and very similar on the wind .1 to .2 less at 1000.

Going out to 1400 and 1700 to confirm BC tomorrow. IT's holding pretty true so far.

The local Sportsman's has the Sauer 100 rifles on sale in 6.5 PRC for $799? $899? something like that.

Is it worth getting a poor man's 6.5, or just save for the GAP?

If you have the funds... GAP is a no brainer.

If funds are part of the equation, I'd buy the Seekins Havoc. THink Cabelas has them back in stock. Havoc is production rifle that is basically a full custom.

Nice shooting!

Build one...

Thanks pat, I was just texting Mark and Fredrick about this combo, not too much this combo doesn't cover....

Pat, are you shooting at those ranges without an “adjustable parallax” scope? Just wondering, as I have a zeiss, rapid - z 600 reticle, but it has no parallax adjustments so I am reluctant to use it at longer ranges.

Great shooting!

Good to know...nice pics Pat.

That scope is set to be parallax free at 300 meters.....not adjustable. At 10X, and shooting long, there won't be any parallax problems. At least I've never felt handicapped, or noticed any.

It's probably more critical from 200 and in to have your eye centered up to take out parallax, than shooting at distance.

I run a few 10x SWFA's (w/ parallax adj) and I think the 4.2mm exit pupil does a lot to help keep me lined up square. I really like the 6x42 PMII (which I think is set to 100m)...I'd think the 10x would be very nice on an open country killing rifle.

The SB's are trite on erector latitude,in both 6 and 10x. Pard dumped parallax yesterday,to connect Beaver Dope up fhuqking CLOSE on a 6x MQ.

Hint.....................

Limited to one spin which is a little over 13 mils. It's enough for a fair poke.

I do love the 6x SWFA's parallax on a .22 for up close....and the extra erector latitude for not up close.

JCMCUBIC,

mine is 9.2 mils at 1400 yards with 135 Atip and 12.8 at 1700 yards

don't think 13 mils is hurting you ! grin

Yes sir, it's more than enough for what I do.

FWIW, I have the Sauer 100 in 6.5 PRC mentioned earlier and it may not be expensive (paid $799) but seems to be quality throughout and not the "poor man's" rifle. Shoots quite a bit better than the MOA expected so am impressed.

Pat how fast is the saum pushing the 135?

Fred I'm running 135 JLk's 3090 fps with 7977!

Thanks. Ran the 143eldx out to 1150 this afternoon everything is jiving and I’m at 3105. With 57.7 grains of RL 26.
135 should pick up a few feet.

Ackley what barrel length are you using and what cases.

24" Hornaday cases.

Very good. Thanks for the response.

3150 fps

Pat,
is the other rifle in your pic the lightweight 22 creed? If so, how are you liking it?

Pat...how do your rifles get the absolute schitt beat out of them? I think you're an Ag/Fed/Control guy? But do you just drag the rifles behind you tethered with some 550? Or have a daily contest to see how far out from the truck bed you can launch them and still make it in?

How? He uses them daily and actually hunts with them. To me a rifle is a tool that I’m going to use and it’s going to be scratched, dinged, chipped and used to hunt and get it done however possible. “Pretty” rifles are for museums!😁

All of his gear lives a hard life... you should see his thermos...

Figure I’m doing ok with my PRC @ 3064 with 130g SGC and under .05 MOA. 😎

I think his saum is a little like artwork created by a guy who loves what he does 😎

That port-side missing finish on the scope, action, and rings happens from being slung near a pack and riding next to a person in the pickup. Scuffs on the stock are from pack frames, knife-sheath or pistol holster snaps, seatbelts and the like. Then there's creeping to the top of a rise so as not to skyline yourself when stalking or starting a calling sequence.

Mighty wide gap between "Pretty hunting season toys" and "Working Rifle".

The Beer Cans can't hang with the 147.

Hint..............

Bull shït

Oooopsie.

Hint.................

143 dogs just for killing.

Chime in...if/when you "see" your first135,let alone "shoot" same.

Hint.

LAUGHING!...................

Gap didn’t take to them like the 143.

Got a wssm coming that will eat em.

Just so you can "say" you've "seen" one.



Hint..............

Just had to give the reamers a tune as necks need turn

Good to see you got the box open. Things are looking up.

I enjoy the FACT,that you've yet to touch a 135..let alone "shoot" one as per your Imagination.

Hint.

LAUGHING!....................

No one can ignore facts like you.

Oooopsie!

Hint..............

How did they do in your GAP4s. COAL. freebore ect?

🤭 feast your eyes.

Be sure to start a Thread,if/when you can afford a box of same. Congratulations?!?

Pardon case capacity being case capacity,if only to the chagrin of your furrowed brow and crossed eyes.

Bless your heart for Crying.

Hint..................

You saying you don’t?? Have a gap4s. When you get one let us know how it shoots. 😁😎😁.

You really don’t understand shoulder angle and pressure do ya.

Few things fhuqking funnier,than a Drooling Retard extolling her CLUELESSNESS. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING soooooooo hard.

Hint.

LAUGHING!..................

From the blow hard with out the rifle he’s pretending to know about.

🤭🤭🤭😂

Pardon my having shot more Custom Rifles on accident,than you ever would in 10 "Life's" of trying on purpose. Your CLUELESSNESS never fhuqking disappoints,in it's magnificent oblivious grandeur. Congratulations?!?

Be sure to "tell" me "more",as you save for a box of bullets.

Bless your heart for Crying.

Hint................

ya still ain’t got a gap other than the giant food hole in your face. LOL. Tell us about your range! At the boat junk yard.
PS I’m not a junk collector.

You haven't the "means","abilities" or "comprehension" to obtain a first clue. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for CRYING.

Hint.....................

ya still ain’t got a gap other than the giant food hole in your face. LOL. Tell us about your range! At the boat junk yard.
PS I’m not a junk collector.

17,000,000 acres.

You couldn't fill a gas tank less a Co-signer.

I enjoy your very WELL founded Insecurities. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for CRYING.

Hint....................

I own more acres in the woods than you?
Only a white trash pud would get giddy about public land being his oyster.
😂😂😂
Living in the great north making 220k a year and you live in a neighborhood and can’t keep a wife. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Yep you are Winning.

Your version of "woods" is fhuqking HILARIOUS!

I enjoy that you are far more comfy talking my money,than you are "your's". HINT. Laughing!

Poor poor(literally) Fredrica and her incredibly WELL founded Insecurities,that consume her 24/7.

Bless your heart for CRYING.

P.S. and by the way...I "only" get 6 months of Vacation a year.

Hint.

LAUGHING!..................

Been thinking about those...

Got a hefty supply of Alco ULDs in 6.5 and 7mm in stock, but will probably pick up some of the A-Tips, too.

Why?

Hint..............

Umm...because I said so...

Be sure to bolster obliviously,that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for trying.

Hint.

LAUGHING!...............

Your Mom tell you these were released in 2016?? Hornady did a fine job of "imitation"...we'll see.

Be a good Homeskillet and make us laugh...

BitchJoe,

I simply shoot the wares,you DREAM about. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heat for Whining.

Hint.

LAUGHING!..............

THAT all you can come up with????

YOU just say stupid sh*t...correction...deliberately stupid sh*t.



You probably are just an emotionally and mentally disturbed Liberal still mad at his hippie mom's failed abortion. Now go cry yourself to sleep, limp wrist.

BitchJoe,

They exist...I shoot same and you Drool. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for CRYING.

Hint.

LAUGHING!...............

ya still ain’t got a gap other than the giant food hole in your face. LOL. Tell us about your range! At the boat junk yard.
PS I’m not a junk collector.

Oh my...the Minimum Wage Kchunt retorts. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for Crying.

Hint....................

So you can feast your eyes on A GAP! Tell us about how yours shoots.

Mine does this at 100 💯 in the yard.

What chambering won't do that? Congratulations?!?

You could almost plagiarize the bullet ID,offa it's labeling. ALMOST.

Bless your heart for trying.

Hint.

LAUGHING!................

You should see my Handyman jack......

Probably elite Snap-on and made to lift tanks.

Don't mistake Scenarshooter for Fug Stick.

SS *uses* his rifles. Fug Stick *abuses* his rifles. Big difference.

True that. Plus Pat is a very friendly and intelligent guy.

Hey it's cool to take pics and record yourself abusing guns, I mean folks here really think Larry's hard on equipment because he's a dumbfuuck!!!! Oh and Larry's sooooo knowledgeable too!!!!

Scenar is the real deal.....

More Melting Brokedick Snowflakes Crying The High Pitched Blues. Congratulations?!?

The sound of which is certainly soothin'...you "lucky" kchunts.

Bless your hearts for Crying.

Hint.

LAUGHING!.................

From a Rez rich fatty with no gap4s

Pardon my owning,that which you TRY to "talk" about. Congratulations?!?

Few things funnier than a Brokedick Retard Whining about schit she can't afford...you "lucky" kchunt.

Hint.

LAUGHING!..............

Yeah, we certainly DON'T have the RV trailer you live in...


BTW, am hearing that the guys in Wasilla call you "Pecker Pole" and used to beat the Harry Reid out of you and you don't dare show your face out of Palmer area.

QueenJoe,

It's your Man Lust Imagination,simply Pretend with it in the manner you are most accustomed. Congratulations?!?

You Drooling DUMB Fhuqks are a HOOT!

Bless your heart for Crying.

Hint.

Laughing!...............

Pat,

I’ll swap you photos of jacks! <grin>