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Posted By: Jordan Smith Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 03/18/20
I just noticed that they released the numbers today. A G1 BC of 0.838 and a G7 value of 0.422. That'll carry the mail!
Posted By: GregW Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 03/18/20
Goodness...
Requires a 7” twist? Faster?
8" minimum recommended.
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 03/30/20
Shoot that’s awesome, I’m gonna have to try that 190.
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC
Hah, you might be waiting a while. Minimum barrel length of 18” just to enclose the bullet so the tip’s not sticking out the end. wink
Posted By: Seafire Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 03/31/20
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


Why you wait, you could just whittle down a pencil or two and shoot those...

a 50 inch barrel and that puppy would really reach out there Pat...

on the other hand, maybe working with an arrow shaft might be easier...
Posted By: Teal Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 03/31/20
Finally - a bullet to take advantage of my 7-30 Waters.
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


Why you wait, you could just whittle down a pencil or two and shoot those...

a 50 inch barrel and that puppy would really reach out there Pat...

on the other hand, maybe working with an arrow shaft might be easier...


Even though I'll only get 2000fps at the muzzle, at 2778 yards it over takes my 135gr bullet at 3150fps at the muzzle, in retained energy and velocity.

Where is the point of "diminishing return"?

It makes me chuckle sometimes....
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


Why you wait, you could just whittle down a pencil or two and shoot those...

a 50 inch barrel and that puppy would really reach out there Pat...

on the other hand, maybe working with an arrow shaft might be easier...


Even though I'll only get 2000fps at the muzzle, at 2778 yards it over takes my 135gr bullet at 3150fps at the muzzle, in retained energy and velocity.

Where is the point of "diminishing return"?

It makes me chuckle sometimes....

Pat,

I think about that often. One of the many uses of a good ballistic calculator is to run the numbers comparing these sorts of scenarios. When a new and interesting bullet comes out, that's one of the first things I do when deciding if I want to give the bullet a whirl. For me, "diminishing returns" start to occur primarily when wind drift of the heavier, slower bullet exceeds that of lighter, faster bullets at ranges I'm going to shoot it at. Of course, if talking about a bullet to be used for hunting, if either bullet's velocity drops below the minimum velocity required for proper expansion at a distance less than the range I'm prepared to shoot game at, then that's also a case of "diminishing returns". I suppose the question can be thought of in the reverse direction, too; if a guy is dropping bullet weight and sacrificing BC in order to maximize muzzle velocity, where is the point of "diminishing return"?

If the increase in BC does not justify the increase in weight and the associated velocity loss, then that's the point of "diminishing return".

Because wind drift is my #1 concern, and since IME wind drift rarely goes up when switching to a heavier, slicker bullet launched at lower velocity (unless the bullet is poorly designed), I usually gravitate to heavier, slicker, and slightly slower bullets, as long as retained velocity is sufficient to initiate proper expansion when the bullet arrives on target (again, assuming hunting and not steel).

Thanks for bringing up the topic.
Posted By: TexasPhotog Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
I just noticed that they released the numbers today. A G1 BC of 0.838 and a G7 value of 0.422. That'll carry the mail!


That could be fun....
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


4 twist and bam. LOL. Sign me up
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
But the BC will be better if you run a SWFA turd 💩
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


Why you wait, you could just whittle down a pencil or two and shoot those...

a 50 inch barrel and that puppy would really reach out there Pat...

on the other hand, maybe working with an arrow shaft might be easier...


Even though I'll only get 2000fps at the muzzle, at 2778 yards it over takes my 135gr bullet at 3150fps at the muzzle, in retained energy and velocity.

Where is the point of "diminishing return"?

It makes me chuckle sometimes....



Apparently you have never been to Alaska. Try not being a private land stud and actual drifting a boat.
Posted By: kingston Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


Why you wait, you could just whittle down a pencil or two and shoot those...

a 50 inch barrel and that puppy would really reach out there Pat...

on the other hand, maybe working with an arrow shaft might be easier...


Even though I'll only get 2000fps at the muzzle, at 2778 yards it over takes my 135gr bullet at 3150fps at the muzzle, in retained energy and velocity.

Where is the point of "diminishing return"?

It makes me chuckle sometimes....



Ho Lee [bleep]

It's happening everywhere.

This place is troll central.

Pat, be prepared to learn them in their adding and subtracting. These dipshïts are running the stupid hard and dry.

Posted By: AKwolverine Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
But the BC will be better if you run a SWFA turd 💩

Whose sock are you?
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
40k I can skin an elk faster than you!
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by scenarshooter
I'm waiting for the new 335 grain 6.5 bullet that has a 1.525 G1 BC


Why you wait, you could just whittle down a pencil or two and shoot those...

a 50 inch barrel and that puppy would really reach out there Pat...

on the other hand, maybe working with an arrow shaft might be easier...


Even though I'll only get 2000fps at the muzzle, at 2778 yards it over takes my 135gr bullet at 3150fps at the muzzle, in retained energy and velocity.

Where is the point of "diminishing return"?

It makes me chuckle sometimes....



Ho Lee [bleep]

It's happening everywhere.

This place is troll central.

Pat, be prepared to learn them in their adding and subtracting. These dipshïts are running the stupid hard dry.



Testing Bin with Soros anti gun trolls running wild....Where’s Frud when you need him? Laffin. 😬😎
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
But the BC will be better if you run a SWFA turd 💩

Whose sock are you?


The one that your mom wiped up with.
Posted By: AKwolverine Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
But the BC will be better if you run a SWFA turd 💩

Whose sock are you?


The one that your mom wiped up with.

Creative ... for an eleven year old.
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
A 28 nosler or 7rum will show huge benefit from this new HD BC.
Anyone killing for freezer filling will never understand.
Posted By: Boogeyman Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
But the BC will be better if you run a SWFA turd 💩

Whose sock are you?


The one that your mom wiped up with.

Creative ... for an eleven year old.


LOL once a chick always a chick. Hint.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Hornady .284" 190 ATip - 04/01/20
Originally Posted by Boogeyman
40k I can skin an elk faster than you!


Elkslayer91 = Reference $40k bet

😎
Originally Posted by Beaver10


Testing Bin with Soros anti gun trolls running wild....Where’s Frud when you need him? Laffin. 😬😎


Yo Beav, wanna go halfsies on a box of these pop can bullets and a 1/5 of hooch. We can meet at Früds and have a broke dick shooting match.

If we combine our stimulus checks we may be able to swing it
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