New action from American Rifle Company

The style maybe not be for everyone but while most all others are jacking their prices these guys are offering a lot of innovation for a killer price.

I see a 20br/20bra/20gt shooting Berger 55s in the near future

ARC Coup De Grace

It's like they said "how could we make the ugliest action possible," and didn't stop designing until finally adding a butt plug bolt handle.

I'm curious with Remington 700s becoming available once again and the economy seemingly not on the best footing, if the custom action market will cool off.

HAHA, that's pretty funny... even though I'm going to buy one.

Man I don't know about Remington.... With the economy and Remingtons new promise to make a better QC'd product, I can't imagine the actions being that much cheaper. I guess we can only wait and see... I sure hope they can though.

I get the point in their bolt knob - watch a PRS guy guy run the bolt sometimes - they like to come up with that right index finger to initiate bolt lift, while keeping the thumb to the right of the pistol grip area as well - providing a small valley there to do so - its an idea about that work I guess. It's not for me tho, like the look of the KW shifter. Local gunsmith has built a couple Mausingfields and I saw one - seemed decent.

I do like that they are offering the ARC bolt head size.

Gotta agree with this. Pretty sure you could leave one of those laying around and the odds of getting stolen are quite low.

Remingtons have gone up in price compared to years past, but are still fairly reasonable. For example, ADLs at Sportsman's are going for $570, and if purchasing one in a desirable round like a 6.5 Creedmoor, a guy could probably trip the barrel and come in for less money. Anyway just a thought, not trying to dissuade someone from a custom action as they certainly have their desirable attributes...other than the butt plug, but I guess folks waiting in line at a match could use it as a way to keep themselves entertained.

Capitalism at work and on full display here. Great idea and going to sell a ton of them. I'm sure I'll have another lefty built with one.

Opinions are like, well, you know the rest... No, it doesn't have the svelte lines of a nice Win 70 or other similar custom actions but there is, to my eye, a certain attractiveness to it. However, I'm the kind of guy who prefers to build, hunt and shoot with AR15 and AR10 rifles so there is that. This action offers features a Remington or any of it's clones do not such as CRF, interchangeable bolt heads, easy cleaning, maintenance, built in 20MOA rail, and integral recoil lug, already 'blueprinted.' The only thing a POS factory 700 had going for it used to be the inexpensive price but even that is gone with plenty of other factory rifles that shoot better, cost less and don't have QC issues.

ARC is a 1:20...

The Zeus or Curtis is 1:16.

Talked to a friend on these last night... he said they are GTG... and that ARC is a great company.

He also respects Curtis.

He aldded that the 12 week lead time on the three Zeus actions he ordered in 2021 is actually at 56 weeks (and counting) presently.

Saw where he plans to launch a lighter weight version also. I used a Nucleus on a small caliber hunting rifle and along with a #2 Hawk Hill found it about right. Be anxious to see the lighter one when he gets around to it.

That'd work for me - easy to swap out the bolt knob.

And given the price, they're going to get prettier and prettier to folks with each passing day.

there. I fixed it for you.....grin

I'm telling you, when I started looking at them yesterday my first reaction was, "MEH". Then the longer I stared the more I liked

You and me both. Although I would like a Mausingfield.

I think a lot of the distaste with ARC actions comes from that bolt knob they use, which can easily be changed for $30-40. They are their own style with 10-32 threads, but there are some options out there.

For sure. I've also heard, not to knock that bolt knob until you try it... a lot of people like it once they use it.

Reminds me of my youth and girls !

That action has a lot of great stuff going on for the price.

The bolt knob looks like a baby pacifier, but ergo wise, they are skookum.

Always wondered why he didn't make one with the same functionality with a better look.

I can work that one fast. I'd not change it out.

My only issues with it are the fact that it only works with DBM (AICS or AIAW) and conical breach barrels. I don't shoot PRS and the target shooting I do is to prepare me for hunting.
I have yet to find a AICS/AIAW set up where the mag doesn't sit way below the stock line and doesn't rattle. I can't have that in a hunting rifle.

If you are looking at standard short action rounds and don't need an OAL over 2.85, these are great. If I'm sitting somewhere or just shooting, mags that protrude don't bother me to much. If I'm carrying the rifle, a protruding mag irritates me to no end.

https://mdttac.com/308-6-5-creedmoor-mdt-polymer-aics-magazine-3-rnd/

Hawkins Hunter DBM & Mags

Yep. Anything that gets built from here on out (strictly hunting stuff for me) gets that setup - no more BDL bottoms.

I've only one rifle with an AICS type mag - a 22lr so it's not really important but would a little bit of moleskin on the mag tighten it up - no rattle?

My AICS mags don't rattle in Hawkin Hunter bottom metal. Use them for all manner of hunting.

Amen brother... I happen to know a guy that sells them too

As other have said, Hawkins Hunter is what I used on my last build, really secure magazine latch, takes a good bit of effort to release mag, flat bottom, no big mag in the way. I carry a cheap polymer in my pack for a quick reload if needed but not really necessary.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102437975?pid=912178
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1024379340?pid=376361

FYI, to anybody interested. I am a dealer and I sell these.... I also offer FREE SHIPPING

Good to know, thanks!

Thanks Ryan !

I can attest that the Midway Nitro Express shipping has nothing on REDVANES.

Haha thanks Buddy

The looks grew on me too, I've tried the bolt knob on a mausingfield, and the design works well for running the action fast. The owner of ARC and designer of the action is posting interesting design information in the running thread over on the Hide, I believe he says black versions of the knob would be available for folks who don't like the heat treat straw color. I've been wanting to try the Archimedes action for a while and it looks like this one has most of the features (including the camming bolt handle if you want it) at a great price. The coned breech requirement for smaller cartridges means you can't use any existing prefits, but they seem well aware of the importance of getting some off the shelf options available, are publishing the tenon print and working with some suppliers to get that moving.

PVA is working on prefits right now! Just had an instagram post about it

My gripes too!

Hawkins Hunter BM and mag:

Next issue please.

Was discussing the ARC models earlier today with SKANE as a result of the huge price increases on the Defiance anTi and Tenacity. While the ARC may be fine actions, they are about as hidilous looking as it gets. I'd rather spend my money on a blueprinted Rem 700 than any of the ARC actions.

It’s as “ugly” as all the other custom actions folks gush over. Only ugly I see is the bolt knob and you can change that out.

-gasp- glory be…..they offer nitride without charging more or adding wait time.

you guys looking to get a action now why dont you look at borden or pierce
pierce starts at 995.00 and looks good

I read that long actions have to be modified for the Hawkins Hunter DBM - what exactly does that entail?

Differents strokes. Personally, I like them. Would like them better without the integral rail. Love the bolt-shroud.

It all sounds a little silly doesn't it? I guess some folks are all about the look, you don't hear them discussing the pros and cons of actions actual features do you?

When the owner of the company talks like this, he is assured of my business...

Wasn't his Mausingfield the most expensive commonly available action when it came out.

May very well have been so but based on the options and specifications it offered, it was, and remains, unique in the marketplace. Adding features like CRF, built in recoil lugs etc didn't come cheap. I believe it raised the bar for other action manufacturers and ARC has consistently improved their offerings to where they are today.

One redeeming quality is the name, which may prove to be a harbinger of things to come for Defiance as this action pulls sales which otherwise may have been destined for a Tenacity.

Yes, He got me a couple delivered real quick !

The rest of that post was even better.

"Thanks for the kind words.

I've always had reverence for companies, or more appropriately teams of smart people, that can offer amazing products at prices that reflect the vestiges of capitalism and the specialization of labor. As an example, pull your phone from your pocket and call someone on the other side of the planet, or disassemble your Glock, or drive your car. And all this still in a world retarded by the unnecessary friction that is corrupt, unjust governance. Imaging a world with less friction efficiently pushing back against entropy. The possibilities are awe inspiring.

But in regards to bolt actions specifically, I can only surmise that my competitors are just not proficient makers and that their prices reflect their inefficiencies. So all I ask from you, the customer, is that you pass judgement. Evaluate the offerings honestly and critically. Reward with your dollars those who perform. I think you'll make the right decision.

Ted"

The proof of any actions worth is how it performs and functions. That's what separates reality from rhetoric.

When buying any action that's outside of the norm as regards the firing pin, cocking piece and other one off pieces, I'd encourage buyers to purchase any of those item that may be needed as spares in the future.

Good shootin' -Al

Perhaps the Fieldcrafts with the recent Barrett sale would be a perfect example of that. May be hard finding those parts in the event you need one.

Sourcing of parts is a really good question and it seems that subject isn't often thought of when building custom rifles. What will happen 20 years in the future if the manufacturer of a one off custom action is out of business? One only has to look back to rifles of yesteryear to see the issue. If a person wanted a custom rifle 60 years ago and decided to use a Pre-64 Model 70 or Mauser 98, parts are still available even today. If they had chosen a Shultz & Larsen 54 action for their build, I suspect parts would be a wee bit more difficult to find. That's for full on production actions, not actions from a small shop. Maybe something to think about when contemplating a custom.

This is spot on. For this reason, I think there's still a place for factory actions produced in mass and used as a custom.

To each, his own. I don't think its a bad looking action and ARC makes some really, really quality innovative stuff.

The reason I mention sourcing parts is because I've been in that situation with a custom action.

Fortunately, the firing pin, spring and cocking piece were modified XP100 . With a bit of machine work, I was able to get the action back in service. 15 years later, it's still going strong.

There's a lot to be said for how the Kelbly's and others do their actions..designed around the 700 ignition pieces.

Good shootin' -Al

Al,
You speak wise words. Suspect a lot of rifle builds are done with the action du jour with not a lot of long term planning on whether parts or components will be available in the future.

I just bought a 700 foot print action for a new built that uses non-700 ignition pieces.

Any guess as to what else is on the way? -Al

Preorder starts tomorrow. ARC is going to be a busy shop for a bit.

Hard on the eyes. For those that are ordering one? What project you planning to put together?