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Posted By: RinB 416 Taylor on GB - 03/08/24
Seller claims this is a Tom Burgess rifle. It is not.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...16-taylor-w-leupold.cfm?gun_id=102615097

Multiple reasons. Tom didn’t do stock work.
I had the metal work built and it wasn’t done by Burgess.
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/09/24
Hmm. Who did the metal work?
Posted By: EdM Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/09/24
OK.
Posted By: pathfinder76 Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/09/24
Those are Burgess ring’s it looks like.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/09/24
Thanks for the tip, i know i'd not like to buy a fake 1970 model Hemi Cuda either ; ]
Posted By: GSPfan Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/09/24
Originally Posted by gunner500
Thanks for the tip, i know i'd not like to buy a fake 1970 model Hemi Cuda either ; ]
Me either LOL I think the seller is in La La land price wise.
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/10/24
Chuck,
The rings were made by Thos M Burgess. At one time I had 5 sets. I used a set on that 416.
However the rest of the barreled action was done by another very good metal guy. I ordered it so I know.

I sold it and that blank to a friend who had it completed. The barrel band and front sight were install by the stockmaker who also installed the peep sight on the rear scope mount base.

Will buy you a drink of your choice if you can name the metal man.

The fellow who ordered the stock died. I lost track of that rifle.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/15/24
Did Dean Zollinger do the metal work?

Bb
Posted By: pathfinder76 Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/15/24
Originally Posted by RinB
Chuck,
The rings were made by Thos M Burgess. At one time I had 5 sets. I used a set on that 416.
However the rest of the barreled action was done by another very good metal guy. I ordered it so I know.

I sold it and that blank to a friend who had it completed. The barrel band and front sight were install by the stockmaker who also installed the peep sight on the rear scope mount base.

Will buy you a drink of your choice if you can name the metal man.

The fellow who ordered the stock died. I lost track of that rifle.

Belk?

And I wish I had a few of those sets of rings.
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/17/24
Stickley?
Posted By: cotis Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/29/24
That is a beautiful rifle. It always amazes me when someone recognizes a rifle on the interwebs that they previously owned. I guess when you get into uber high end stuff and big game rifles such as this the pond shrinks considerably. Unfortunately I do not swim in that pond apparently.

I wouldn’t buy the rifle just because the top scope ring screws are not clocked…. cool
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/29/24
Action work, scope bases, barrel, and barrel band by Ted Blackburn when he was personally making his bottom metal in Springville UT. Thos M Burgess made the QD scope rings.

Anybody guess who made the stock? I supplied the blank. It is true French from Tessier. The stockmaker installed the front sight and the peep in the rear scope base.

I had forgotten that Ted made the barrel band.

Hint, the stockmaker lives in the area around Kalispell MT.
Posted By: KEVIN_JAY Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/30/24
Fisher
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/31/24
No, not Fisher.
Posted By: CRS Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/31/24
Originally Posted by RinB
Action work, scope bases, barrel, and barrel band by Ted Blackburn when he was personally making his bottom metal in Springville UT. Thos M Burgess made the QD scope rings.

Anybody guess who made the stock? I supplied the blank. It is true French from Tessier. The stockmaker installed the front sight and the peep in the rear scope base.

I had forgotten that Ted made the barrel band.

Hint, the stockmaker lives in the area around Kalispell MT.

Dennis Olson
Posted By: AKwolverine Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/31/24
^Was going to suggest Olson as well, but isn’t he in Plains? And Speiser is Missoula.

Both “area” I guess. smile
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 03/31/24
No and no.
Posted By: 3dtestify Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/01/24
Monte Mandarino?
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/03/24
Mandarino is a fabulous stockmaker but he didn’t do this one.
Posted By: cotis Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/04/24
I’m out…
Posted By: EdM Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/04/24
Monte Kennedy?
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/05/24
Ed
Sadly, no. Mr Kennedy died quite awhile ago. Jerry Fisher told me on multiple occasions that he thought Kennedy was the finest stockmaker of all time. Jerry said Kennedy could inlet and shape a side lock shotgun or rifle with tangs from a blank with no hesitation.

Kennedy was the only person who Purdy would allow to stock their actions. I saw one magnificent .465 double which he did.
Posted By: RinB Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/05/24
Answer:

Lee Helgeland

There is a 458 on the Hallowell site. Look at the distinctive placement and shape of rear swivel.
My deceased friend, to whom I sold the metal, had a number of rifles completed by LH.

I wish I had kept that stick.
Posted By: 3dtestify Re: 416 Taylor on GB - 04/05/24
I’ve seen quite a few gorgeous Helgeland creations on Hallowell’s website.
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