I've SERIOUSLY got the bug for one... Already got a little cubbie hole in the safe for the $$$ needed.

Please post some up, specs, pix, groups etc etc.

Thanks!

Ps, please educate me on calibers available. I think they are short action only, correct? I have been thinking heavily on the 7wsm, I have a Kimber 300 wsm, and used to have a 270 wsm so looking heavily at the 7 as the 160 Accubond might be calling my name.

Here's your huckleberry.....7WSM.

Pat, that another one of yours? Review on it? Is it another Crusader?

That's a friend who hunts with me. He shot that buck out here this past November. It was a 300 yard broadside shot. 180gr VLD at 2950fps. That's the non typical with a few add ons. #3 Bartlein fluted bbl, Vias brake, Mcmillan Hunter's EDGE stock, custom paint. Badger M5 bottom.

The GAP Crusader is a larger, heavier tactical style rifle.

Mine's a .308, Bartlein #3, Edge stock. Two typical 3-shot groups, one at 100 and one at 500 meters:

Pat, did I read that right, 2950 with a 180 Berger?! That seems really quick! I could for sure live with that!

Smokepole, really good looking rifle and about what I'm looking for other then caliber.

Pat, Can your buddies rifle hold 3 in the magazine and still feed well?
I know most feed better with 2 down!

I could like one of those in 6.5 Creedmoor or 6XC.

I know what I would get !! That new 6.5 4s or 6.5 saum what ever you want to call it ! I call badass !! Isaac

I thought this section was reserved for "custom rifles and wildcats"??? That is little more than a fancy production rifle...
All kidding aside, I haven't owned or seen a GAP rifle that didn't shoot. George and crew are top of their game so keep stuffing hundreds into that piggy bank.

Lefty 308, Bartlein barrel, McMillan stock, alloy Badger M4 bottom metal...


1st 100 yard group-


500 Meters-


I have another on order in 260, only difference is a Rock barrel instead of the Bartlein.

Modified from the standard NT a bit. Edge stock, 22" tube, and a SS Rem action instead of the Defiance after swearing off custom actions a few years ago. (That has nothing to do with the Defiance/GAP actions, btw)

...ETA.....

.260 Rem running 123 Scenars at 2975.

I think you'd like a Defiance.......

Probably. The Guardian from R&D Precision is attractive with its ability to use AW mags.

Approximately what do these weigh? 260 specifically.
How about sustained accuracy (hot barrel)?

Might have to Faux one of these next.

That grey rifle, including Atlas bipod (12oz with rail section), scope (4-16x50 Viper PST @ 22oz), rings (2pz), and 10rd AICS magazine (7oz) weighs 9lb 8 oz.

GAP website says 7.3 # with a BC stock and rail attached, maybe less with an optional Edge tech stock!

What stock pattern is on the two with the green camo?

Edge compact.

5 shots with the 300 WSM GAP Nontypical...

they flat out shoot !



My next one, in the works already, is a 6.5 4S

Templar SA Hunter
6.5 Saum
24" fluted Bartlein barrel # 3, with Vias Brake
Manners SL 100% CF stock
R&D Precision M5 bottom metal
Tuned Rem trigger

Already gathering up the brass for it...

The 6.5 SAUM has been calling me for a few years and my resolve continues to weaken. A 127 LRX at 3150 should be less than top-end for good brass and barrel life, but still SCREAMING out to 800+ on game.

Curious what is 4S?

My next one, in the works already, is a 6.5 4S

Templar SA Hunter
6.5 Saum
24" fluted Bartlein barrel # 3, with Vias Brake
Manners SL 100% CF stock
R&D Precision M5 bottom metal
Tuned Rem trigger

Already gathering up the brass for it... [/quote]


Sweet baby Jesus ...... This is what I'm going to rebarrel too !!!!

Believe the Badger M5 mag holds 5 down and feeds slicker than you know what...

I ordered a 260 last month also. Templar action, Bartlein #3 barrel, Hunters Edge, M5 mag.

4S =

Super
Secret
Squirrel
S [bleep]

Understood......I don't need your people after me

Curious what is 4S? [/quote]

4S =

Super
Secret
Squirrel
S [bleep]

[/quote]

Classic!

I've got all the parts sitting here for mine - just waiting on getting the bolt back from having a Badger knob installed. The package should be sent off to GAP just after Christmas. I will do all the coating myself, so GAP will just be screwing on the tube and bedding the stock. It will be a .308. I'm pretty sure that GAP has that caliber down pat.

Rem 700 CM SA
McMillan Hunters Edge, ADL
Brux 30 1:11
Shilen trigger
Talleys
Leupold 3.5-10x40 with M1s

I only have about $1100 into the parts, not including the scope and rings, so by the time all is said and done I should have a "cheap" Non-typical

Curious what your or them figure that will weigh? Sounds like quite the rig.

Hey Bob,

I got all my parts together for a non-typical inspired 6xc build. Only diff is Crescent Customs is building it. I will be shipping all parts off tomorrow. Maybe get it in April hopefully.

I went Brux on the barrel 7.5 twist #3. I am excited.

Here's mine....





All scoped up and on the scale....



I wish I could shoot 3 shot groups like this every day...but I think the rifle could.



A 3 shot group at 760 meters:



I wouldn't worry about caliber too much. Whatever you get it in, it'll shoot. I wanted something low maintenance that would last forever so I went with a 308. Couldn't be happier with it.

Those Gap painted Edge Classics are so nice....nice shooting with a top notch rifle!

Nice shooting OSD! Beautiful rifle there....

What happens if you center-punch that steel?

You miss....

We had that plate specially made for shooting with Pat....

We are getting 3025 pretty easy with a custom shop Savage in 7WSM. We hit 3150 without real pressure signs but backed off as it HAS to be hot. Pretty easy to find loads for I thought.

grin... That is funny stuff.

This thread is baaad!

I am liking these GAP's some very nice rifles.

gary

OSD, I love that!! I got turned onto this config the first time I laid eye on Scenarshooters OD green rifle.

Is that a fixed 10x S&B and if so, had you any experience with a fixed 10 before you bought?

I am curious because I am thinking about one as well.

Nice shooting OSD and I likey that rig! As it sits it's about 9lbs so "all up" with sling and round it's probably close to 9 1/2 lbs would that sound about right?

Dober

tuam nice! Popular cartridge at my gun club.Guys use it or competition out to 1000.

My 260 NonTypical seems to do ok with the 130 Berger Hunting Vlds...

Yep...S&B 10X PMII.

It's an excellant scope. The glass is superb and the click adjustments are absolutely repeatable.

I'd always shot 6X fixed power scopes on my hunting rifles prior to getting the Schmidt. I have a 6X42 with CDS that can shoot long but this scope takes it out to another level.

The move up in magnification would only be detrimental (in my opinion) if you were into jumpshooting deer in brushy bottomland, or standhunting in the Deep South where a "long" shot is 50 yards. Niether of which I do.

For most all the Western hunting I've done, 10X was never too much scope.

Mark,

I imagine you're right about the weight. I'll get the scale out later on and see. It doesn't feel heavy though, and I think you'd like the way it balances with the EDGE stock. For the kind of accuracy it can deliver at longer ranges, most of the other rifles that can compete with it are heavy barreled "sniper" rigs that weigh twice as much all up.....

If I make it up to SW MT this spring I'll bring it by (if you're not too busy selling casas).....

FWIW if anyone is looking for one of these, I think Sendero man has one he might be willing to part with....

OSD-thx for the input, I'd love to shoot that rig. What's the scope weigh? And your stock is Edge fill correct?

Thx
Dober

Dober-
For comparison, my GAP 308 weighs right at 8 1/4lbs as she sits. I used the alloy Badger M4 bottom metal and of course the Leupold that is lighter than the S&B's. About to switch to a 3.5-10 with M1 and figure she will be just under 8lbs.

Thx Huntr, hope alls well in your camp my friend!

Dober

Mark,

The scope weighs 21 oz...add a couple more with the Talleys.

The stock is Edge fill and makes it balance just in front of the mag well. Perfect for carrying.

I've noticed the weights are all a little bit different. When I compared my NT to Pat's, at Icebreaker, mine had a slightly thicker tube at the same contour and weighed a few onces more- not that that made any difference whatsoever. It's the equivilent of a few cartridges.

Bottom line is it can comfortably be carried practically anywhere you are likely to be needing it and shoot as far and as well as you can. Actually mine can shoot further than I can- but I'm still learning.

Thx-good stuff my friend.

You and Mike gonna come this way come May/June?


Dober

Hopefully!

Can't say for sure yet, but we're working on it....

good deal, keep me in the loop

look forward to seeing you guys for a few, I'll have the grill fired up...

Dober

Will do.....Thanks!

Is GAP full-length bedding or free-floating the Non-typical?

If it's there standard bedding job then it's free floated!

About an inch of the barrel shank is bedded, the rest free floated.

Doesn't get much better than that....

Man... that bedding is like artwork. George rocks...

where the bedding comes up to the edges at the top of the stock do they paint that to match the stock?? I have seen this even match camo the stock is finished in. to me that is the coolest part of the bedding is getting the bedding compound that you can see on the very edge to match the stock.

Very nice

Given their long range accuracy and how well built they are I am surprised that some of the military sniper programs haven't went to a Non-Typical.

It would seem to me that such a finely put together 8 to 10 lb all up rifle would make more sense for field use than the 12+ pound rigs that are now fielded.

Thanks Scenarshooter very helpful. The original prototype Non-Typ was full length bedded. I'm guessing the barrel shank is about 1 1/4" - 1 1/2" past the lug?