Time for another custom build. This will be the last one for a while.

Hart #2 3/4" Remington Contour Barrel
Remington CM Action
McMillan Edge Stock
PTG bottom metal

On the fence here. Can't decide between a custom 30-06 Vs. 300 H&H. I have both a standard and magnum action. Your opinions are greatly appreciated.

Get the .300 H&H.

H&H

If choosing the 300 H&H have you found accuracy to be superb?

30-06 is boring, the 300H&H is cool retro, but if there was another choice, I'd go 308 Norma mag just to be different... . You'd also get better brass life than the H&H with similar performance..

yep 300 H&H

I passed on a pre-64 M70 300 H&H a few years ago. Didn't realize the value at the time, and it would have been a good buy at sticker price. I regret that one. Every day.

H&H

Anybody ever rent a reamer from 4H. I like the looks of the 308 Norma as well. Brass is also available. Never really considered this cartridge before.

Bro, the H&H has got panache' - had a M70 PF come through my hands... wish I still had it if only for the cool factor!

That will be a light rifle in 300 H&H depending on scope choice.

Currently building a 30-06:

PTG Serengeti Reamer
McM Compact Swirly ADL w/ 14.5" LOP
Defiance Rebel LA
Obermeyer blank - Rock #3 dupe @ 23"
.250" lug +.75" shank
Bat SS trigger guard
Timney Trigger
Talley LW
6x42 scope

If doing a 300 magnum I would go with Standard fill vs Edge. The 30/06 should be fine with Edge.

300 H&H no doubt. Then again I only own 3.

30/06

Those that think cartridges are sexy need some serious professional help or a prostate.

300 H&H improved (Weatherby)

Don't know what you would consider "superb" but it will be accurate enough for what ever you're gonna hunt with it.

you're sitting on two actions and this is going to be the last one for a while?

the only reason for a mag is to flatten trajectory...but it's real easy to load a 300 H&H like a 30-06....

What about a 30-06 A.I.. Nosler is showing 2985 fps with a 180g bullet using RL 22 from a 24" barrel.

What do you want to do with it? If weight is a concern, then the 06. Basically you are buying about another 200-250 fps with the H&H w 180gr bullets. Both of mine (on 70 actions, sorry) go about 3000-3020 fps with them. The 06 of course is a "gold standard". As to AI, nothing I would ever consider.

I was at the same crossroads last year.

I had donors in both bolt faces. I ended up choosing the H&H. I was considering a 300 Win Mag also.

A number of reasons.
1. 30-06 is too practical (boring), and the H&H has some panache.
2. I already own a bunch of 30-06 improved. ie 270's.
3. It would be replacing the last 338-06 I sold. Going to use 180-200gr bullets exclusively.
4. A natural match to my 375 H&H. Both have Echols legend stocks. The 300 should be done shortly and was planning on posting pics of the pair when completed.


With all that being said, go with what you like. There is no wrong choice.

I have a 300H&H and my only complaint with it is the cost of factory ammo. Obviously less of a factor if you enjoy reloading.

Why? A friend has a 30-06 AI and loves it. I, for one, have the 300 H&H and love it.

I just don't think they bring anything to the table that another standard cartridge can't match or best, not to mention their weirdness makes it tough if one is on a hunt in BFE and needs ammo.

I like the H&H myself but it would have to be in a Model 70 or Mauser action.

If it's going to be a heavier rifle, say 8.5-9.5 lbs. w/ a 24-26 barrel, I'd do a 300 H&H. If you want a 7.5-8 lb. rifle with a 22-24 inch barrel, I'd do an '06'. E

Mine is on a Model 70 classic action with a clean pac-nor #2 at 24", cerakoted midnite blue. Dropped in an Echols's Edge fill legend stock.

Topped with dual dovetails and a Leupy 2.5-8.

Should be done shortly and am currently trying to find some of the new Hornady 180gr GMX's.

Heading to Africa in June for a PG hunt and plan on using the 300 as a primary.

I appreciate the nostalgia connected with the 300 H&H, but if the goal is to eventually shoot it, I like the 300 Win as the more useful round. I don't have much patience to locate rare or seasonal brass.

Any of my 300 Win rifles can easily become a 30-06, but if you are going to use the rifle, with the exception of extreme long range, there isn't anything the others do that the 30-06 won't do as well with today's bullets and powders.

The first (and only) practice load that I worked up for my .300H&H.

Well it looks like the 300 H&H has the commanding lead. I handload all of my own ammo, so this is not a consideration. How do you guys feel about the recoil in a 7lb rifle? I own a 416 Taylor, and it's not horrible to shoot.

[quote=jorgeI]I just don't think they bring anything to the table that another standard cartridge can't match or best, not to mention their weirdness makes it tough if one is on a hunt in BFE and needs ammo.


Part of the utility of a properly chambered AI rifle is that you can use factory ammo in a pinch, but I know that you already knew that Jorge .........

Jason,

You've often heard me say, "I'm a short range meat hunter.

just fer schitz n' giggles, an oldie,but a goody IMHO.

http://reloadersnest.com/article_300hh_oct2803.asp





Best,


GWB

300 H&H! I've always had a thing for that round.

Have an H & H in a number one.. Cool round great game rifle..
Once you get a supply of brass you are set.. 06's are common as dirt, the H & H has CLASS!!!

300 H&H for sure........nothing else has it's cool factor.

It's actual ballistics might fool you & will almost surely bring a smile to your face.

MM

That sounds pretty sweet right there...

If you are serious about "retro" then it would be the 30-06
If you want the original retro 300 H&H ballistics then get the 30-06
If you want easy to find ammo and components then get the 30-06

Could be a "bottom line" here, somewhere...

DF

I'm thinking,------30-06

Ya think Phil may know something...

DF

Between those two, it would be 30-06 for me as well.

If I only used the .30-06, I would have given up shooting and hunting 20 years ago..

If I only used 30-06 for the past 20 years, I would have been able to afford a number of hunts around the continent, instead of a cabinet full of unused rifles.

I have a cabinet full of rifles and they are used... I have also made a number of hunts around the country and out of it..

Ya'




never had a problem with the effectiveness of the '06



when used.



JAPPFT,


GWB

True, no doubt.

Practical, no doubt.

But, so un-Loony...

And, I didn't say boring. One can do a lot of creative stuff with the '06.

But, that compulsive Loony disorder afflicting so many here just won't allow such practical, sensible solutions.

DF

Start with an upscale action with features such as a M70 type safety, CRF etc and put that Rem aside for a target rifle.

As to the 30-06 vrs the 300 H&H. Well I got a 300 HH in a pre 64 many years ago. I shot it and loaded for it and put it aside and never hunted with it.

Meanwhile I hunt with lighter, handier 30-06's.

So get a 300 if you can afford it but have a featherweight 06 ready and sighted in.

That old M70 300 H&H weighs 9 pounds 2 ounces with it's 3.5-10X Leupold, sling and 26" barrel.

Well said Phil.

I'm as guilty as the next gun geek of thinking the '06 is passe' at times, but it's actually the rifle, more than the cartridge that sets the "tone." A 1940's M70 would warm my heart in ways that a rack full of new warning on the barrel rifles never could...........while ALL chambered for the same old .30 Gov't.

With today's bullet and powder selections, there's nothing that a .30-06 won't do, and do well. Of course the same can be said for other old classics like the 7x57 and 6.5x55. The Super-Thirty is a great round too though, and it'd be my first choice for a long action build...........just because I could.

What will it weigh?

Some live where its a skosh intemperate(as in colder than a witch's tit)............





May, in the shade. LOL


some live where one can get a little hot under the collar

Quien Sabe?

GWB

How much for the Scout

I do not know, will weigh it when I get it. Was going to do a post on it after load work up.

I did get to handle it before the cerakoting and it feels fantastic in the hands. Hoping to have it by the end of the week.