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Posted By: elkhunternm 7x57 - 08/07/16
Having a 7x57 built.

Specs....

Dumoulin Mauser action

American Walnut stock 13 5/8" LOP

Shilen barrel #2 contour 22" long 1-11" twist for the 140 gr Nosler Partition & Sierra.

Leupold 2-7x scope & Talley rings.

Fluer de lis with ribbon.

1" red recoil pad

Grip cap

Be ready in a year. Will be a long wait. smirk

Posted By: patbrennan Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
If it was me I'd run a faster twist than that, no downside to it. That is a slow twist for a 7mm caliber cartridge.
Posted By: bea175 Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
why the slow twist barrel on a cal that does its best with a 160 gr bullet or heavier?
Posted By: doctor_Encore Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
The 1980 model Winchester M-70 FW in 7X57 was twisted 1/8 3/4,can't recall reading on the fire anyone having accuracy issues with the 140/150 bullets. Now the long throats is a separate issue.

Doc
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
No cheek piece,fore end tip,iron sights and engraving.

The twist rate is what I want for the 140 gr Nosler & Sierra bullets.
Posted By: roundoak Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Ken,

Talk to MuleDeer about setting up a 7x57 to shoot 140 grain bullets. I don't recall all the details but he was not completely happy with the custom rifle he had built.

Don't know the twist on his barrel, but I believe he had it reamed for a short throat.

Wayne
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Have two other 7mm Mausers and use 160's in those. This one will be for the 140 gr Nosler Partition and Sierra.
Posted By: bea175 Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Should be a great hunting rifle with 140 gr bullets
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Intend to use it next year for deer season,if I draw a tag,which should happen.
Posted By: bea175 Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Post photos of the rifle when finished
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Will do,but a reminder,it'll be a year from now.
Posted By: EdM Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Ken,

Who is doing the work?
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Bedeaux gun shop in Alb.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Ken,

Interesting project.

Seems you're convinced eleven twist will shoot 140's better than std. 7x57 twist.

Fill us in on the decision process.

DF
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Decision process..... just cause. wink
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Originally Posted by doctor_Encore
The 1980 model Winchester M-70 FW in 7X57 was twisted 1/8 3/4,can't recall reading on the fire anyone having accuracy issues with the 140/150 bullets. Now the long throats is a separate issue.

Doc


I've got one of those 1980 models. I have yet to find a bullet weight it does not like.
I prefer the 140 Partition, for Deer, though.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 7x57 - 08/07/16
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Decision process..... just cause. wink

laugh

Gotcha... cool

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything... blush

DF
Posted By: RevMike Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Wait!! How'd I miss this a couple days ago??
Posted By: ingwe Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Originally Posted by bea175
why the slow twist barrel on a cal that does its best with a 160 gr bullet or heavier?



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.


If you want to shoot 130-150s....break out your .270...
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Cause it's my rifle (and money) and that's what I want. wink
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Tell'em, Elk... laugh

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by bea175
why the slow twist barrel on a cal that does its best with a 160 gr bullet or heavier?



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.


If you want to shoot 130-150s....break out your .270...

Ouch... shocked

Below the belt... blush

DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Well geez...putting a slow twist on a 7x57 is like getting a date with Heidi Klum and asking to go out with her ugly sister instead....


( Or if theres a .270 involved...her ugly brother...)
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by bea175
why the slow twist barrel on a cal that does its best with a 160 gr bullet or heavier?



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This.


If you want to shoot 130-150s....break out your .270...

Ouch... shocked

Below the belt... blush

DF
Yup, cried with comment! cry
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
Well geez...putting a slow twist on a 7x57 is like getting a date with Heidi Klum and asking to go out with her ugly sister instead....


( Or if theres a .270 involved...her ugly brother...)
Well geez,have two other 7mm Mauser's that I use 160's in. I want one for just the 140 NP and Sierra.

And again,my rifle and money.
Posted By: ingwe Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
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Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Been a rough day.
Posted By: ingwe Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Well....at least you didn't buy something gay on the sly.... whistle
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
It was either a 7x57 or a .338/06.
Posted By: ingwe Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
If its gonna be a classic design, 7x57 is what to go with. The .338-06 is great...but really suited for SS/Syn.

Classic cartridges belong in classic guns...
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/09/16
Wood stock with some figure in the kester and Mauser action.

When I go up there again I will take pics of stock (if it's there) and action.
Posted By: PatagoniaHunter Re: 7x57 - 08/10/16
Hi elkthunternm,

Of course its your decision and money. I, and I presume, all others who are saying a 1:11" is unnecesarily slow twist even for a 140 grs bullets in a 7x57, are trying to colaborate with you. Nothing else...
To me, having used the 7x57 in 3 rifles since 1972, 1:11" twist is in the edge, as I said, even for 140 grs bullets.

Anyway, good luck!
Posted By: mudhen Re: 7x57 - 08/10/16
It ought to be hell on pygmy mice (Baiomys taylori)!
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/10/16
grin
Posted By: Son_of_the_Gael Re: 7x57 - 08/10/16
Sure hope that twist rate still works for you when the Feds outlaw lead.

Just sayin'

Gonna be a nice rifle for sure though.
Posted By: mathman Re: 7x57 - 08/10/16
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Cause it's my rifle (and money) and that's what I want. wink


To paraphrase Inspector Clouseau: Ahhh, the old "It's my rifle/whiskey/steak and my money, so I'll screw it up the way I want it" ploy. grin
Posted By: Savage_99 Re: 7x57 - 08/10/16
While your waiting find a classic ready made!

The Brno 21H's came in 7.0 and are a mauser type.

Mine has a 21" bbl. and the factory scope mount.

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Posted By: tarheelpwr Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
Sure hope that twist rate still works for you when the Feds outlaw lead.

Just sayin'

Gonna be a nice rifle for sure though.


He'll be fine. 1:11 will handle 120 monos just fine if that happens.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
True,do have 2-gun safes full of other firearms. wink grin
Posted By: taylorce1 Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Cause it's my rifle (and money) and that's what I want. wink


There you have it!

Originally Posted by ingwe
The .338-06 is great...but really suited for SS/Syn.

Classic cartridges belong in classic guns...


I have one in Stainless M70 Classic and one not a 03A3, but it isn't blue either. I picked up the 03A3 used and I'd do some things a little different if I were building it. However, it got my feet wet with the cartridge and I've enjoyed it ever since. I consider .338-06 a classic cartridge

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Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
.338-06 is a nice rebore project for a tired '06 with enough steel in the tube to not end up too thin.

Less costly than a new barrel and they shoot pretty good.

DF
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
When I had my Montana rebarreled by Pacnor I had them chamber in 7mm-08 with a 1 in 9". It shoots 120's very well. I finally decided to try some 162's in it for reduced wind drift, and I'm glad I have the faster twist.

If'n I was gonna build a 7-6.8 Ingwe, I'd also suggest a one in 9", but hey it's your rifle grin
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
7-6.8 Ingwe

Now, that's a very interesting round... laugh

DF
Posted By: GSPfan Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
I just took every of a custom 275 Rigby with a 1:10 twist and it will cloverleaf 140gr Sierra's. I went with a classic stalking rifle theme. Pics are on this thread under a stalking rifle and on the Winchester collector forum.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/11/16
Seen that,good shooting GSPfan.

Posted By: Borchardt Re: 7x57 - 08/14/16
With 23000 posts on this forum alone, I don't see when you will have time to shoot it.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/14/16
I will. wink
Posted By: DesertMuleDeer Re: 7x57 - 08/14/16
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Having a 7x57 built.

Specs....

Dumoulin Mauser action

American Walnut stock 13 5/8" LOP

Shilen barrel #2 contour 22" long 1-11" twist for the 140 gr Nosler Partition & Sierra.

Leupold 2-7x scope & Talley rings.

Fluer de lis with ribbon.

1" red recoil pad

Grip cap

Be ready in a year. Will be a long wait. smirk



I bet it will turn out nicely. Roy builds a really well balanced hunting rifle. I saw a 7x57 that he built on an early commercial Oberndorf that was incredible.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/14/16
Yup,really liked what I seen at his shop. Just had to have one made for myself. grin
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: 7x57 - 08/15/16
Mention custom 7x57's and I always think of this one. It was built by Jaeger in Jenkinstown, PA, on one of PO Ackley's left hand Mauser actions. P.O. had 150 RH and 50 LH made up a number of years ago, at a factory in Japan - according to DeHaas' book.

Despite the wrong handed bolt, I nearly kept it anyway. I finally sold it for a nice profit to a collector of left hand Mausers, who was utterly delighted to have it.

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Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/15/16
Nice rifle Pat. smile
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: 7x57 - 08/17/16
The stock was shipped out for semi-inletting.
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