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Posted By: vapodog more gluing - 07/10/18
So I find this piece of maple and it says.....turn me into a .308 Winchester.....

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The barreled action is 100% Howa....as is from their factory. I bought it from gunbroker and when I tookit to the range using the original Hogue stock, it was very accurate and I wasn't at all sure I wanted to monkey with it......But monkey I did and when it was done the accuracy had actually improved.

It is now the most accurate rifle I've ever owned.....with 150 grain Barnes TTSX bullets and 51.5 grains CFE 223 powder it will consistently hit dime size targets at 100 yards
Pistol grip cap and for end tip are cocobolo as I like the red color with the maple.

The wood came from Potsdam Minnesota

Stock routing by Dennis Olson of Plains Montana

This will probably be my elk rifle this fall
Posted By: kingston Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Spectacular spalted maple!
Posted By: Owl Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Beauty eh !
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Spalted Maple is beautiful, but you have to stabilize it.

I see spalted wood in the butt stock, straight grain in the action and forearm, which is exactly how I'd want it.

What did you have to do to stabilize the spalted area, or was it already done for you?

Would like more info on Dennis Olson, web site, etc.

Very nice. You done good... cool

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Here's a link back to where the "gluing" discussion began.

I still love the widow's peak forearm cap that you do.

www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/12757265

DF
Posted By: butchlambert1 Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Dennis does great work. He did the metal work on my 458Lott.
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Spalted Maple is beautiful, but you have to stabilize it.

I see spalted wood in the butt stock, straight grain in the action and forearm, which is exactly how I'd want it.

What did you have to do to stabilize the spalted area, or was it already done for you?

Would like more info on Dennis Olson, web site, etc.

Very nice. You done good... cool

DF



Spalted wood is highly prised for its unusual patterns and colorations, but it's not necessarily easy to work. "Spalting" occurs in an early stage of the decay process, when various colonies of fungi stake their claims to a piece of fallen wood. The characteristic blue-black lines that run through spalted wood actually represent the lines of demarcation between incompatible colonies of micro-organisms and, while beautiful to look at, they mean that the wood is in an early to mid-stage of decomposition.

: "Assuming the spots aren't too mushy, you can pot them with a wood hardener designed to soak in and stabilize rotted wood. They come in two versions — a one package pour on and a two part thin epoxy with names like "Woodrot" (which I use) In my opinion, the epoxy is the better of the two. You can get some from System Three in Seattle — they have ads in most of the woodworking magazines. Once stabilized, you can treat it as any other wood. The epoxy will affect the way it takes stains, but most folks don't stain spalted wood. It will not affect finish adhesion, and rarely affects glue adhesion.

I have used spalted Maple in panels of wood in my house and did not stabilize it.....the stuff has been there for 15 years with no further decay noticible. I'm of the opinion that if the wood is not "punk"....able to be penetrated with the fingernail..... it will stop decaying after the oxygen is cut off by putting a good finish on the wood.
Posted By: drano 25 Re: more gluing - 07/10/18
Stunning. Well done.
Posted By: keith Re: more gluing - 07/10/18

Spalted wood is very, very dangerous to work with.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Originally Posted by keith

Spalted wood is very, very dangerous to work with.

Please explain. Dangerous as to one's health or dangerous as to not knowing what you're going to be cutting into, what lies under the surface?

Vapodog,

Did Dennis do the external shaping as well? If so, what pattern did he use?

DF
Posted By: 22WRF Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Damn nice work Forrest, but I think I would have added a little bit of stain to make it a bit darker, Best thing about it is that you sourced the wood In Minnesota!
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by keith

Spalted wood is very, very dangerous to work with.

Please explain. Dangerous as to one's health or dangerous as to not knowing what you're going to be cutting into, what lies under the surface?

Vapodog,

Did Dennis do the external shaping as well? If so, what pattern did he use?

DF


Dennis did a 95% inlet leaving me rough and finish sanding, recoil pad install, forend tip and pistol grip install, sling swivel stud install, and finally finishing and checkering. However it's far from a drop in....there is a lot of work involved after Dennis gets his work done.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
He said they don't stain well after stabilizing with the two part epoxy treatment.

So, it may have been a train wreck had he tried to stain it. Looks pretty good to me as is.

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Originally Posted by vapodog
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by keith

Spalted wood is very, very dangerous to work with.

Please explain. Dangerous as to one's health or dangerous as to not knowing what you're going to be cutting into, what lies under the surface?

Vapodog,

Did Dennis do the external shaping as well? If so, what pattern did he use?

DF


Dennis did a 95% inlet leaving me rough and finish sanding, recoil pad install, forend tip and pistol grip install, sling swivel stud install, and finally finishing and checkering. However it's far from a drop in....there is a lot of work involved after Dennis gets his work done.

You sent him an uninletted, shaped blank?

Did you do the profile, the outside shape?

DF
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Originally Posted by 22WRF
Damn nice work Forrest, but I think I would have added a little bit of stain to make it a bit darker, Best thing about it is that you sourced the wood In Minnesota!


I stained a previous maple stock and said "never again"....these things are to ones personal tastes and I'm now of the thinking that if I don't like the wood "as is".....I'll use something else.

I understand your differing here.....but it's just my mean streak coming out against the companies making wood stain.
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
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You sent him an uninletted, shaped blank?

Did you do the profile, the outside shape?

Yes, I sent him a crudely shaped (via band saw) uninletted blank.....Dennis' routing furnished 95% of the final shape.....he even did the shadowline cheekpiece.....rough but clearly merely needing sanding.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Is that a certain pattern you chose?

Looks great.

DF
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Is that a certain pattern you chose?

Looks great.

DF
I like the shadowline cheekpiece.....so if it's available I ask for it....it almost always is but on occasion I just get a regular cheekpiece.

Dennis seems to be able to make almost anything.....but ask him before sending wood....one can wreck a "C-note" in just shipping costs if you don't.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Spalted wood can be lighter in weight.

Is this the case with this one?

DF
Posted By: SuperCub Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
While I do not normally like maple stocks, I do like that a lot.
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Spalted wood can be lighter in weight.

Is this the case with this one?

DF


Yes....kt's a fair amount lighter than walnut.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/11/18
That would be a plus, IMO. Most of the spalted wood is in the butt stock, looks pretty solid forward.

Dense maple is about as heavy as walnut, IME.

The lighter weight is just a bonus for a beautiful stock.

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: more gluing - 07/12/18
Originally Posted by vapodog
Originally Posted by 22WRF
Damn nice work Forrest, but I think I would have added a little bit of stain to make it a bit darker, Best thing about it is that you sourced the wood In Minnesota!


I stained a previous maple stock and said "never again"....these things are to ones personal tastes and I'm now of the thinking that if I don't like the wood "as is".....I'll use something else.

I understand your differing here.....but it's just my mean streak coming out against the companies making wood stain.

What finish did you use?

DF
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/12/18
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer


What finish did you use?

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Posted By: 1911a1 Re: more gluing - 07/14/18
Originally Posted by SuperCub
While I do not normally like maple stocks, I do like that a lot.


I'm the same way about maple, But that stock looks great.

vapodog, did you also do the checkering?
Posted By: mooshoo Re: more gluing - 07/14/18
love that rifle super nice wood!
Posted By: Bella1 Re: more gluing - 07/17/18
Fantastic job!
Posted By: vapodog Re: more gluing - 07/17/18
Originally Posted by 1911a1
Originally Posted by SuperCub
While I do not normally like maple stocks, I do like that a lot.


I'm the same way about maple, But that stock looks great.

vapodog, did you also do the checkering?

Yup...it's quite a process....nice to have something to do when it's not decent weather outside to be somewhere else. I'd rather be fishing but checkering is rewarding too.
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