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Posted By: DonnieSpradling 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
Just bought a 280 AI and I am looking for any good reloading recipes that anyone may have that are constantly shooting under 1 inch at 100 yards
Posted By: dave7mm Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
My load that I used for a very long time on deer.
Was 64g of H4831 with a 140g Nosler Ballistic tip and a CCI br primer.
I used Rem cases,bought quite a few and sorted by weight.
Rifle was built by Nelson Berger..Walts brother, and had a Douglas no.4 barrel.
It would typically shoot sub MOA at 400 yards.I shot 3 to 3.5 inch groups at 400 yards.
At 500 it would do MOA if you took your time and watched what you were doing.
Hope this helps.
dave
Posted By: handwerk Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
My two main loads have been:

54g RL 17 Barnes 145 LRX CCI LR primer

62g RL 22 Barnes 150 TTSX Fed. LR primer
Posted By: bwinters Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
Try Re 23 under a 160. Re 26 was pretty good, had more velocity, but Re 23 had better groups.
Posted By: MallardAddict Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
Currently shooting 55gr of R17 and a 168 Berger hunting but plan to swap it to 162 ELd’s and R26 this spring
Posted By: nyrifleman Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
Kimber Montana, Reloader 26, new Nosler brass, Federal 210 match primers and the 160 Accubond.

Velocity measured by LabRadar.

60.0 gr averaged 2935fps, .6 MOA
60.5 gr averaged 2982fps, .74 MOA
61.0 gr averaged 2997fps, .68 MOA
61.5 gr averaged 3046 fps, .3 MOA

Temperature was 12 degrees, all groups were three shots.

I settled on the 61.5 load, which was repeatable. I've shot around 20 groups with that load, all have been sub MOA.

Currently working on another Kimber (Select Grade) which is showing promise with the 150 Ballistic Tip and 62.0-63.0 gr 7828SSC. This one needs more range time to dial in. Velocity is a shade under 3100 FPS.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
H4831sc and 150 BT has been my go to.

Heavier and I like r22

H4350 was great with 120’s.
Posted By: smokepole Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
My Kimber shoots the 150 ballistic tip well using Nosler brass, Fed 210s, and 62 grains R-26. Around 3,050 mv.

Also the 160 Accubond with R-26.
Posted By: beretzs Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
Originally Posted by smokepole
My Kimber shoots the 150 ballistic tip well using Nosler brass, Fed 210s, and 62 grains R-26. Around 3,050 mv.

Also the 160 Accubond with R-26.


My little brother is just starting to work with his Kimber and shot one round with 60 grains of H4831 and a 150 Swift and got 2957, hopefully he has some test targets soon, but I'd be happy as heck to have that load shoot well for him. Nothing much better in my opinion than that sorta speed with a great bullet in a rifle that goes 7.5lbs all up..

If it doesn't perk with 4831, I am pushing him to try 26. You guys seem to be hammering with it and about any bullet.
Posted By: bwinters Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
beretz - 150 Aframe or Scirroccoo II?
Posted By: fredIII Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
I’m running 162 eld at 2940 with 58 grains of imr7828 cci 250 and Norma brass. Shoots in the .3” if I do my part.
Posted By: beretzs Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/18/19
Originally Posted by bwinters
beretz - 150 Aframe or Scirroccoo II?


Scirocco..

I like them alot for hunting. I know they aren't the sleekest but man do they expand widely and penetrate real well.
Posted By: bwinters Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
Thanks! Been chewing on that bullet for my 280 AI.
Posted By: beretzs Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
If you can get it shooting, I like it alot for it's terminal performance. I wished Swift made a 175-180 Scirocco for my Mashburn. Probably could sell of the stockpile of Bitterroots I have.
Posted By: GregW Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
168 Berger VLD, 57.0 H4831, Nosler cases. 2,820 from a 22" 9 twist. Stacks them out there...

My main killing rifle...
Posted By: Tejano Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
Do a search there are some lengthy threads on 280AI loads. I am using R26, R22. VV165 and MRP currently. Will try R23 and 16 eventually but no need to now.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
Thanks for all the info guys I will probably try all these loads to get a good idea of what this rifle likes. Some really interesting loads were given that I hadn't even thought of. Never even thought of the Swift bullets.
Posted By: beretzs Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
Originally Posted by GregW
168 Berger VLD, 57.0 H4831, Nosler cases. 2,820 from a 22" 9 twist. Stacks them out there...

My main killing rifle...


Thanks Greg. Passing that onto my buddy using the 168 ABLR in his Kimber.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/20/19
Never really shot the 280AI much but I got a good deal on a Savage rifle in this caliber I just hope I get my money's worth out of it.
Posted By: dave7mm Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/21/19
Donnie
I actually have two.
My second rifle likes 120g Nosler Ballistic tip over 58.5g of Norma N204.
Norma case.
CCI-BR primer.
At 500 yards you need a outright bench gun to better it.
just sayen...

dave
Posted By: hillbillybear Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/21/19
My .280 AI likes the 120 grain Nosler Ballistic tip over 61.0 grains of H4350 and a Federal 215 primer. 3325 fps from a 23 inch 9 twist Shilen barrel and will shoot 1 inch groups at 300 yards.
Posted By: smokepole Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/21/19
HB, just curious, have you shot anything up close with that load, and if so, how did the bullet perform, as far as bloodshot meat?
Posted By: dave7mm Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/21/19
Not HB but..
I was acctracted to it,the 120g BT, because of the accuracy.
They are supposed to have a very heavy jacket and not explode like the BTs of old.
I got a bad feeling about them as I made what I feel was a very good shot,A lung shot and never recovered the deer,
Acted like ball ammo.
dave
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/21/19
I have heard some people say that the Savage rifles are pretty accurate and then I have heard people say that they don't shoot nowhere near as good as other gun manufacturers
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/22/19
Is that out of a Savage rifle
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/22/19
63 gr VV N165, 140 Accubond @ 3200 fps in my 23” Lilja barrel. That load shoots one ragged hole in my gun.
Posted By: claybreaker Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/22/19
Originally Posted by bwinters
Thanks! Been chewing on that bullet for my 280 AI.


I think you may a few of those.... I was hoping for a free report when you load'em smile

Be Safe,
Posted By: hillbillybear Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/22/19
Originally Posted by smokepole
HB, just curious, have you shot anything up close with that load, and if so, how did the bullet perform, as far as bloodshot meat?


Killed deer as close as 15 yards and so far (32 deer with this rifle) all of the 120's have exited. No excessive bloodshot or mangled meat.
Posted By: keith Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/23/19
in a 26", 9T, X Caliber barrel, 175g Nosler accubond is really a great shooting bullet with IMR 7828 with 215's. I am shooting 30/06 Lapua brass, neck turned. This bullet really creates a lot of damage on deer 300 and under for a bonded core bullet at 3000 fps.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/23/19
My Savage has a 1:9 twist 22 inch barrel on it the short barrel is what concerns me with it
Posted By: hicountry Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/23/19
62.0 h4831, 140ab, f215

Way sub moa in 3 different rifles.

Not a screaming load but hovers around .5" in my Law 280ai
Posted By: donsm70 Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/24/19
Tag for future reference, but my LAW in 280ai shoots the factory 162 ELD-X very well.
donsm70
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/24/19
Does anyone have the 280AI in a 22 inch barrel
Posted By: MadMooner Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/24/19
Mines 23”. 22” wouldn’t bother me a bit.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/24/19
Good that makes me feel better about this barrel
Posted By: GregW Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/24/19
Originally Posted by DonnieSpradling
Does anyone have the 280AI in a 22 inch barrel


Read this thread a bit more closely.....
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/24/19
I see now where you said your rifle had a 22 inch barrel
Posted By: C_ROY Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/26/19
Originally Posted by DonnieSpradling
Does anyone have the 280AI in a 22 inch barrel


I have the short action equivalent a 7mm SAUM and it has a 22.5" bbl
Posted By: WiFowler Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/26/19
I have 3, 280AIs.

Without a doubt IMR7828 (or 7828SSC) has proven to be the go to powder behind the 160 class bullets. Tried for a long time to get the Reloader XX (insert number here) loads to perform. Ultimately, I the temp sensitivity of Reloader pushed me to 7828. Haven't looked back since.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/27/19
From reading everyone's imput on accuracy I am getting really excited about my choice to give this caliber a try. I have seen a lot of you posting about excellent groups. I just hope I can achieve these results
Posted By: drano 25 Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/27/19
Lots of options with the 280AI. Mine likes the 140 BT over RL22 & RL23 at a scoche over 3200 fps. Also had great results with a 150 ELDX & RL26 @ 3120ish.

If you use RL23 in this cartridge, get a drop tube if you don't have one. The density makes it a tough to get enough powder in the case.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/28/19
My old kimber Montana liked 7828 with 150 partitions or NBTs. I never could get that rifle to like the 162 amax or other high BC bullets. Maybe that's why I don't have it anymore. I picked up a CA ridgeline this winter but haven't shot it yet. I plan to try 180 elds first in it.

My Montana 7wsm loves 162 amaxes with 7828. I'm going to try the 180s in it this summer too. The 180s work well in my 28 bowler so I hope some of my other rifles like it too.

Bb
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/29/19
Originally Posted by C_ROY
Originally Posted by DonnieSpradling
Does anyone have the 280AI in a 22 inch barrel


I have the short action equivalent a 7mm SAUM and it has a 22.5" bbl



Wish I had one. I love my Ackley & it is so very accurate. But, I would more love a 7 RSAUM.
Posted By: Otter6 Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/30/19
My Pac Nor barreled Remington loves 59 grains of Imr 4831 and a cci 250. Yields just over 3,000 fps and 1/2" groups.

The 120 ttsx over 58.5 grains of RL17 and a cci 200 turns in an average velocity of 3,290 fps. Again 1/2" groups.
Posted By: 280Ackleyrized Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/30/19
Originally Posted by Reloder28
63 gr VV N165, 140 Accubond @ 3200 fps in my 23” Lilja barrel. That load shoots one ragged hole in my gun.

This^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 03/31/19
I would be very pleased with one ragged hole
Posted By: Hammerdown Re: 280 AI handloads - 04/02/19
Originally Posted by DonnieSpradling
I would be very pleased with one ragged hole

When you get that, it kinda makes you feel good.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 04/02/19
I got that out of my new 300WSM
Posted By: AussieGunWriter Re: 280 AI handloads - 04/05/19
Originally Posted by DonnieSpradling
Does anyone have the 280AI in a 22 inch barrel


Yep, mine is a 22" using an XTR Model 70 featherweight with the 8.75" twist and rechambered.
Posted By: DonnieSpradling Re: 280 AI handloads - 04/05/19
Sounds like a nice one
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