Top rifle is chambered in 30-30. The seller claims it is from the 40's. I do not have a serial number. What is it? An E? An A short rifle?

The 99E replaced the 1899A Short Rifle 1899H solid frame, but it wasn't made in the 40's. Last made in 1934. The 99C replaced the 1899A Short Rifle, and the 99C was last made in 1927.

I would guess it's a late 1920's or 1930's 99E from what I can see.

Thank you, sir. I thought it would be earlier than the 40's as well. Isn't an E fairly hard to come by?

Seller is asking $1200 each for the rifles. That's insane for the EG, and I think high for the 30-30 as well. I was thinking of making him a lower offer.

99E's are hard to find, yes.

If the serial number is 1940'ish.. could be swapped or replaced stock.

As Rory says, not from the 40's. 1934 E was the last solid frame straight grip rifle, except 99H, and it certainly isn't an H. (Westfield guns excluded.)

From the photos I can't really tell barrel diameter or whether front sight has raised ramp. Could be a 99C (1922-1927).

Could be. They aren't real common either, are they?

Don't you all think $1200 is excessive?

As always, "is it too much for you?" Or do you like 'em and want 'em?

IMO, Too much for both with the case.

Too much missing info.
Top looks burnt. s.n.? match?
Bottom fore is blond, proud...replaced? D&T original?

I'd find out the serial number, check to see if numbers are matching, make sure it doesn't have a tang crack, make sure it hasn't been D&T'd and make sure the toe hasn't been chipped. A lot of what ifs for me.

Is it worth 1200? Certainly not if it has any of the above issues. If it doesn't, I'd call it a 700-800 rifle. But with the $ that's being flashed around the 99 market right now it's getting so I have no idea what any of these things are worth....

Rory, the short rifle morphed into the 99C (solid frame) and 99D (takedown). These had the rifle weight barrels. the 1899H (lightweight) morphed into the 99E (solid frame) and 99F (takedown). Both had the lightweight barrels until 1926. With the advent of the medium weight barrel in 1926 the 99C and 99D ended and the 99E and 99F continued with the new medium weight barrels. This was the end of the rifle weight barrels and the lightweight barrels. The only difference between the C and the E and between the D and the F were the different barrels. There was no need to continue with the C and D since they would have been the same rifle as the E and F.

Thanks, David.. had a brain fart. Too much shoveling/snow cleaning apparently

99C - 99E, and 99D - 99F differed on sights as well as barrel weight. 99C/99D had dovetail sights with front blades, 99E/99F had the integral sight bases. They could have continued the 99C/99D with dovetail sights like they did with the 99H, but nobody had been buying them anyway. With the low 99E sales, probably the only reason they continued carrying the 99E into the 30's is because there was no hardware that was different than on other models. 99F buttstock and 99A forearm and you have a 99E.

I agree. I’ve little to no interest in the eg. looks like oil stain on the 30-30 wood to me.

Thanks to all who’ve commented.

Anybody know what kind of scope mount that is?

Early Redfield, I think. The hole spacing for attaching the front of the mount is not the same as we use now. The mount that is on it is the only one you can use. It does have two piece rings.

I'm going to need to read that when I'm not so tired. Good info.

That info is in my book but probably not as condensed as the post.