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Savage Model 1920 250-3000 (250 Savage) in poor condition. Bore has pitting, but rifling is visible. It shoots reasonably well, but I recommend against shooting and its probably better for parts. Has what looks like original factory aperture/peep sight, original metal butt plate. Stock has been repaired at the wrist at some point, checkering is worn. No idea of the value, so asking $100 plus shipping, but open to offers.

So what would you offer if you were the first guy viewing the post? whistle
I would pay the asking price.
Yep, I would hand over $100. Soynds enough like ai could be comfortable shooting it once checked out
It sold while you were asking.
"It sold while you were asking."

You sure??

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Is this a real question?
Yes, the question is a real one though I have purchased the firearm. And the funds have been accepted.

So would you only offer him his asking price when the seller acknowledges not knowing the true value of the firearm...
$100 man, just pay it.
Originally Posted by olgrouser
Yes, the real question though I have purchased the firearm. And the funds have been accepted.

So would you only offer him his asking price when the seller acknowledges not knowing the true value of the firearm...


Absolutely. I'm looking for a project rifle and I expect to pay more than 100$ for one, no matter make/model/caliber
Not looking for a project - I want the 1920 rifle as a wall hanger for the man cave.

The firearm came from deep within the Canadian BC interior. Wished it could talk...

(like the repaired stock with a complete break at the wrist? how about the cap protecting the muzzle? bet it was a trapper's tool at some point)
Peep sight is worth more than $100, last I knew. I wouldn't have hesitated.
Bert,

I'll give you $200 for it!

Doug
Bert,Im supprised you didn't try and talk him down !!!! grin grin I think the least i ever paid for 1920's was $400 and they both had the peepsights on them, which were creeping up toward $400 on e-bay. My buddy at the scrapyard had a guy show up the last week wanting to sell a couple guns to be scrapped. He had been to the police and they wouldn't scrap them ,they sent him to the junkyard. The 2 rifles paid him $1.65!! crazy crazy A crazy gun scared liberal who inherreted them i believe. One was a marlin levermatic in 22 magnum in like new condition, My brother bought it for $500 and was happy to get it. strange times. You did really well on the 1920, Im betting it will shoot well. Don
Originally Posted by Rakkasan
Bert,

I'll give you $200 for it!

Doug


Bingo Doug! I gave him double his asking price because the seller really did NOT have an idea of the gun or the peep sight's worth.

As stated earlier, I only want the rifle for a wall hanger in the cave.

AS previously stated that sight would bring 300, maybe 400
I’d have paid the man, put the rear sight on my 1920, and sold the remainder of the package for $300.
That peep sight is missing the knob for the windage, should have gotten a few dollars off.

It looks like there is s cap on the muzzle, is it thread for a silencer? (suppressor for those that get particular).
To answer your question if the seller was someone who didn't know much about guns but was selling it for a need then yes I would have said the rifle was worth a lot more than what was being asked and wished them my best. You know, like maybe the widow or kids of the original owner. But if the seller was just some schmuck clearing stuff out then I would have kept my mouth shut, paid him my Franklin and been on my way.
Thanks for clarifying that Gene. I was getting ready to yell, SUPPRESSOR, so loud you could here me from Maryland.
Yep, suppressor. I have an 1899 in 250 with a cap on it.
Originally Posted by JoeMartin
I was getting ready to yell, SUPPRESSOR, so loud you could here me from Maryland.
I assume you are using a slang use of the word and not the dictionary definition. by itself suppressor does not really apply without another word or two included with it to show it refers to sound.

sup·pres·sor /səˈpresər/
noun: suppressor; plural noun: suppressors

- a person or group that deprives others of power or prevents something from happening.
"suppressors of free speech"

- something that prevents the development or expression of a feeling, process, etc.
"that great suppressor of talent and imagination: fear"

- a device that partly or wholly eliminates electrical interference.
"the computer and phone line are plugged into a surge suppressor"

Maxim named his invention a 'Silencer', Parker-Hale called them 'Sound Moderators'... so I guess the correct term will depend on which one was intended to fit the gun.
maxim+silencer

silencer+definition

Bubba at his finest - better than the proverbial compass-in-stock abomination.

Pretty sure it was a cap to protect the crown:

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Doesn't look anything like my BSA rifle with the threaded muzzle for the P-H moderator...
That looks like an original Maxim protective cap, so it probably is for a Silencer and not for a Moderator or a Suppressor.

This picture show the drive on adapter but threaded barrels used the same cap. The cap that is fully knurled is probably not original.
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I had a 1920 with a cap but it had square threads.
When you get sick of looking at it on the wall shoot me a note, I'll put a new stock on it, blue it and get it up and running again.
A friend has his Grandad's Winchester 94 (1920s) with a threaded barrel. After Gramps died they looked hi & lo for a device that would screw onto the barrel, never found nuffin'.
Originally Posted by mad_dog
When you get sick of looking at it on the wall shoot me a note, I'll put a new stock on it, blue it and get it up and running again.



Got a new barrel for it too? smile Bert said the bore is roached.
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by mad_dog
When you get sick of looking at it on the wall shoot me a note, I'll put a new stock on it, blue it and get it up and running again.



Got a new barrel for it too? smile Bert said the bore is roached.


I have one. But it’s a 300.
Originally Posted by olgrouser
Recently posted ad:

Savage Model 1920 250-3000 (250 Savage) in poor condition. Bore has pitting, but rifling is visible. It shoots reasonably well, but I recommend against shooting and its probably better for parts. Has what looks like original factory aperture/peep sight, original metal butt plate. Stock has been repaired at the wrist at some point, checkering is worn. No idea of the value, so asking $100 plus shipping, but open to offers.

So what would you offer if you were the first guy viewing the post? whistle


if i had my eyes open it would have stayed in B.C.

norm
Originally Posted by norm99

if i had my eyes open it would have stayed in B.C.

norm


Ya, saw it when I woke up and it was already gone to Bert, there was a nice Stevens 410 SXS that went quick late that night as well.
I had a 300G that was threaded with the same cap on it.

Joe
My 22HP with the factory threaded barrel and cap.

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Don, do you have any UGLY guns? That one is a beauty!
Originally Posted by Loggah
My 22HP with the factory threaded barrel and cap.

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Probably too early to be an AB Grade 1899H based on the front sight, but same options (except the thick hard rubber buttplate). What a beautiful rifle! Ever letter that one?
Its a 1899H made in 1912, i have a letter, serial 125421 first year of the 22 HP.

Originally Posted by Loggah
My 22HP with the factory threaded barrel and cap.

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Beautiful!
Interrupted threads?
Interupted threads where the barrel threads into the reciever, and interupted threads where the maxim silencer would screw onto the barrel.
Originally Posted by GeneB
Originally Posted by JoeMartin
I was getting ready to yell, SUPPRESSOR, so loud you could here me from Maryland.
I assume you are using a slang use of the word and not the dictionary definition. by itself suppressor does not really apply without another word or two included with it to show it refers to sound.

sup·pres·sor /səˈpresər/
noun: suppressor; plural noun: suppressors

- a person or group that deprives others of power or prevents something from happening.
"suppressors of free speech"

- something that prevents the development or expression of a feeling, process, etc.
"that great suppressor of talent and imagination: fear"

- a device that partly or wholly eliminates electrical interference.
"the computer and phone line are plugged into a surge suppressor"

Maxim named his invention a 'Silencer', Parker-Hale called them 'Sound Moderators'... so I guess the correct term will depend on which one was intended to fit the gun.
maxim+silencer

silencer+definition

Yes, the Maxim's were created and marketed as silencers. But Hollywood killed that - their depictions of silencers made it seem as though guns were totally silent when fired with one, when in reality it just dampens the noise enough not to hurt your ears permanently. They did such a bang up job of spreading disinformation that silencers were included in the 1934 National Firearms Act, even though they were practically never used in actual crimes. Even today when it's trivially easy to create an adhoc suppressor, criminals don't do it. So the gun industry changed the term to "suppressors" - short, if you will, for gun shot volume suppressor - in order to fight the ignorance created by Hollywood and the anti-gun fanatics. Suppressor is a much more accurate term than silencer.

This is like arguing that the Savage 1907 is actually an automatic pistol and not a semi-automatic pistol, because Savage advertised the 1907 as an automatic. So are the anti-gunners correct when saying that criminals using automatic weapons all the time? No.. the terms 100+ years ago were frequently inaccurate.
Originally Posted by JoeMartin
Don, do you have any UGLY guns? That one is a beauty!


Nope! I've got the ugly ones!
I also had a H in 22HP that had a cap on the end of the barrel. I think it also was a 1912-13 rifle, it was a plain Jane, not like Don's.
Originally Posted by saddlering
I also had a H in 22HP that had a cap on the end of the barrel. I think it also was a 1912-13 rifle, it was a plain Jane, not like Don's.

I passed up an 1899H in 30-30 at Tulsa one year that was capped. A lot of original blue on it, but a couple holes on the side from a side mount and I walked away. Should have bought it. Talked to a suppressor guy here and he said adapters could be bought that would fit a new suppressor to an old Maxim threaded barrel.
Saw a 22HP with the threaded muzzle in a pawn shop in Ocala, Fl., that looked like it had been dragged through the swamps too much. The pawn shop owner was hyping it as having belonged to a poacher in the early days of Marion County.
Originally Posted by Rakkasan
Originally Posted by JoeMartin
Don, do you have any UGLY guns? That one is a beauty!


Nope! I've got the ugly ones!


Haha. It would probably be fun to have an ugly 99 thread.
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