LGS has a Savage 170 in 30-30 with deer engraving on the receiver. Having never owned a 30-30......... Well, before I take a second look at it I would appreciate input from those who have already played in the 170 arena.
From what i have seen they normally go for around $300 - $325. The model 170 in 35 Remington goes for more and seems harder to find. Tom
I have an as new 170 in 35 Rem. I personally love the tang safety. The wood and pressed checkering is nothing to write home about, but the gun carries well, shoots straight, and is a great deer rifle for where I live here in New England. I think the Remington 760s eclipsed the 170 in popularity, that being said, money couldn't buy my little 170. It wears a vintage Redfield 2-7, looks nice shoots good, oh, and it says "SAVAGE" on it, that right there is worth a little something in my book.
Rich
The last deer I shot with a .30-30 was with a Savage 170 with a Bausch & Lomb scope with adjustable mounts. They do rattle like hell but are decent guns. I would love to find a carbine in .35 Rem
I believe they made a rifle and a carbine. I had a 30-30 carbine as a kid and it never let me down but as others have said, they do sound like a Chinese circus when you carry them. The forend rattles on them worse than a 760 Remington.
I knew a guy who, on a dare, participated in a match at the CBA (Cast Bullet Assoc.) nationals around 40 years ago with a .30-30 170. He did quite well shooting against a couple dozen guys using .30 bolt guns and single shots. Finished around 6th or 7th place as I recall. Regardless, it was an astonishing feat. But I don't recall anybody running out to buy a 170 real quickly either.
Never owned one but always thought they would be a great rifle for stillhunting whitetails with that tang safety and a low powered scope. Might be a bit of a handful in 35 remington, no experience with that cartridge either.
Doing online searches, I see several references to feeding problems, especially with the 30-30. Personally, I have never had a feeding problem that a strict died wouldn’t cure, but what fun is that?
Perhaps I will get a few snap caps & run them thru the gun at the store.
I recently bought a 30-30 here for $325 IIRC. A scratch on the stock otherwise very nice. A couple of range trips and I had zero issues feeding my handloads with the 150 gr TSX. A two inch rifle without tinkering loads. I took it on the hog hunt but did not get a shot.
I had feeding problems with mine. After firing I could not pull the slide back without first pushing it forward.
Accuracy was so-so. One of my friends liked it anyway so it's moved on.
I'd buy a .35 though. Never heard of many or any problems with them.
There were parts changes to the lifter and some other parts after the initial version, that might be the reason some have feedign issue and others don't. I do not think the 35 cal was offered in the earliest version so they would all have had the updated parts and they seem to never have reports of feeding issues. Rattling forearms was somewhat was address in later versions by adding a spring loaded cross bar that pushed back on the forearm when the action was closed, they still could rattle if turned side to side but the front to back rattling was reduced.
I also find I have to push the slide arm forward to release the action when dry cycling - not sure if the recoil when shooting would be enough to release it or not. These are made on a shotgun action and it might have been some safety issue for them.
Mine fed fine but it dang sure rattled like crazy
JMO, But I'd give a dump truck load of 170's for one Remington model 14.
Holy friggin crap! Look at what the 170s are going for on Gunbroker plus compare them to the prices the Remington 141s are going for. Have people lost their ever loving minds or what?
At least you can remedy the 760 rattle. Replace the Oring in the fore end.
Holy friggin crap! Look at what the 170s are going for on Gunbroker plus compare them to the prices the Remington 141s are going for. Have people lost their ever loving minds or what?
In a word, yes.
Mine sounded like a single cylinder Johnny Popper pulling a spike tooth harrow over a rocky field.
Holy friggin crap! Look at what the 170s are going for on Gunbroker plus compare them to the prices the Remington 141s are going for. Have people lost their ever loving minds or what?
In a word, yes.
And that's a lot of money for a 250-dollar gun!
Mine sounded like a single cylinder Johnny Popper pulling a spike tooth harrow over a rocky field.
Mine sounded like a pulp wood truck
I already have a noisy Ithaca 37 that keeps the deer from bothering me. If I carry both the Ithaca 37 & Savage 170, would their noises cancel each other out?
I keep looking at a 170 because every time I pick one up it points real nice. Maybe it’s because I am a shotgun guy.
I already have a noisy Ithaca 37 that keeps the deer from bothering me. If I carry both the Ithaca 37 & Savage 170, would their noises cancel each other out?
I keep looking at a 170 because every time I pick one up it points real nice. Maybe it’s because I am a shotgun guy.
You might be able to “rattle” in a deer with them. Mine wasn’t bad accuracy wise but I did buy it for under $300. I would dang sure not pay over $500 for one and to me that is too high unless it is a .35 Remington NIB
I already have a noisy Ithaca 37 that keeps the deer from bothering me. If I carry both the Ithaca 37 & Savage 170, would their noises cancel each other out?
Only if they were 180-degrees out if phase. So you would have to carry them with the muzzles facing away from each other (just kidding).
I have to concur that given the choice, I'd take a Remington 141 over a Savage 170 every day of the week and twice on Sundays. And I'm a Savage fan (my primary, almost the only one that ever gets used, deer rifle is a 1950s Savage 99 in .300 Savage), and not particularly enamored with Remingtons. But the difference in workmanship and quality is significant. And the 141 isn't nearly as noisy, either.
Here are some ideas to quiet an Ithaca 37. I am not familiar enough to know if it works on the 170 .
https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=183354Also my BIL puts rubber bands between the yoke & forend on his 37 to check the forend travel.
I had the Revelation model (made for Western Auto), decent gun. no issues except as noted previously.
I have one I bought in the late 1970s for deer hunting in 30-30. It shoots well, feeds without a problem (don't use pointed bullets) well, and is not noisy. Good gun, low price when I bought from a LGS for about $100.
I've owned several 170s in 30-30 and one in 35 REM. They are reasonably accurate, certainly Minute-Of-Deer out to 300+/- yards. The only problem that I've had with them has been broken extractors, but if the extractors aren't broken they are reliable rifles. I don't think that they are a particularly strong action design, since they aren't much more than a Savage Model 30 shotgun in .410 reworked to be a rifle, so I'd stick to factory ammo or reloads at conservative pressure.
It looks like prices on the 170's have gone crazy also !!!! I was at a friends shop yesterday and he had a mint 170 in 35 rem,has it on gunbroker and had bids of $1125 on it !!!
It looks like prices on the 170's have gone crazy also !!!! I was at a friends shop yesterday and he had a mint 170 in 35 rem,has it on gunbroker and had bids of $1125 on it !!!
Still time to get it Don!
It looks like prices on the 170's have gone crazy also !!!! I was at a friends shop yesterday and he had a mint 170 in 35 rem,has it on gunbroker and had bids of $1125 on it !!!
Still time to get it Don!
And you wouldn’t have to pay shipping!
I have no interest in it !!! i sold one to my cousin a few years back for $350 in almost the same condition . Im no fan of remingtons ,but when it comes to pump rifles there the way to go.
I think Savage built 170's for use on hunts on and around farmland. A foray into audio-flage. That's why 170's sound like a hay baler.