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Posted By: Calhoun Book question - 04/21/21
While I continue to gather photos for every variation... (ugh), and do more research.. one of the guys on Facebook suggested something.

Would there be any interest in a reduced size/content pocket reference that would contain updated date charts, models made each year, info for each model and variations (but not pictures of each variation)? Small booklet that'd be easy to carry through a gun show?

I've got enough info on all the models to go to print, just need to make a trip or two to get more photos for the complete book.

Thoughts?
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I had thought that is what you are doing. A pocket reference. ??
Posted By: diamondjim Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Pocket reference would be great.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Originally Posted by Southern_WI_Savage
I had thought that is what you are doing. A pocket reference. ??

It won't be a pocket reference, just a paperback reference. It was going to be a tad larger than Murray's in order for the pictures to be decent.

This would be smaller - 4 1/4" x 7 1/8". Not claiming the pictures will be great.. but you'd have the data with you. Anybody who's ever tried to carry a 6" x 9" Murray's through a gun show will know it doesn't fit in a pocket very well. This would be almost half the size of Murray's.

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Posted By: olgrouser Re: Book question - 04/21/21
A solid idea! cool

May I reserve copies 99 & 199 ??
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Copys #1895, #1899 and #99 will be available to all members for a reasonably inflated price. grin
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Here's a thought. How about offering the members here the opportunity to buy the same number of your book as they have for David's book(s)? For example, I have #399 of his first book with the same number on order for the new book. It would be neat to have the same number for all three books.
To keep people honest you'd probably have to get David to send you a list of names and numbers for his books.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I hadn't really thought ahead to sending out numbered copies. I suppose I could do that, though I'd probably reserve the really popular numbers for the guys who have helped so much by getting information to me for the book.

I think there's a few guys who probably have been rolling their eyes up this last 2 years going.. "Oh cripes, another email/PM/text from Calhoun!". grin
Posted By: deerstalker Re: Book question - 04/21/21
i'd buy one.
Posted By: Loggah Re: Book question - 04/21/21
How do you make a pocket book with large type for us old farts ???? grin grin
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I'll be selling numbered magnifying glasses as well with a very reasonable payment plan. grin

The font on these isn't bad. I've had to chop the number of words for each model, I didn't reduce the font.
Posted By: diamondjim Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I would take 3 and I don't need any special numbers........except in the fellow Nebraskan discount....... whistle whistle laugh
Posted By: saddlering Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I'd be in for one Rory!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Got to burn a couple vacation days this month, so got a 4 day weekend starting tomorrow. I'll get to work on it and see if I can't get the rest of the models reformatted for it. Then I'll start finding miscellaneous pictures to fill up the blank spots.

This may not be too long of a process.
Posted By: Lineman99 Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I’d take one also!
Posted By: triple_deuce Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Im in for one!!

Joe
Posted By: 300savagehunter Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I'll take one

Mike
Posted By: texken Re: Book question - 04/21/21
murray's book 3-5 to 3-84 would be great for me
Posted By: Blitz Re: Book question - 04/21/21
I'll take one also.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Originally Posted by texken
murray's book 3-5 to 3-84 would be great for me

Murray did a hell of a job back when all research had to be done by hand... but it drives me bonkers now to look at a lot of those entries and to know how much more accurate info we've dug up here for all the models.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Originally Posted by Loggah
How do you make a pocket book with large type for us old farts ???? grin grin

THREE EDITIONS!
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Sooner or later some wisacre is going to ask for an audio book version. And there's the Kindle users too. Maybe one in Braille?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 04/21/21
Large print version looks like a set of Encyclopedia Britannicas. Throw it on the lawn cart and head to the gunshow! LOL.

Hey I'd like any reference books Savage you fellas put together.
Posted By: eaglemountainman Re: Book question - 04/22/21
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Sooner or later some wisacre is going to ask for an audio book version. And there's the Kindle users too. Maybe one in Braille?


I would love a braille copy to place prominently on my bench at the range. Guys all up and down the line will be more anxious than a dog trying to pass a peach pit sideways.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 04/22/21
Originally Posted by Loggah
How do you make a pocket book with large type for us old farts ???? grin grin


Maybe he will make a special issue with a pocket on the back for reading glasses. grin
Posted By: JeffG Re: Book question - 04/22/21
print books are, .. so 15th century. How about a fully programmed small I-tablet, with chronological pages, serial number ranges for each model, and a single picture, then clickable links for further drop-down detail menus?
...or, maybe you could do fold-out pages...

Thanks for all Your work!! And I agree, more reference material will be great!! All ships rise with the tide! Sign me up for three copies please! I don't need a numbered copy, I'd be happy just owing you copy-right money for the rest of my life, (... a personal "Rory Hancock" dedication would be nice!)
Posted By: Savage94C Re: Book question - 04/22/21
I'd get one, take one, buy one, and be interested in one. ??? There's three for sure and a maybe. grin I would buy one though ifin ya did offer the book.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 04/22/21
I'll take one.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Book question - 04/22/21

Put me on the list for 2 copies Rory.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Book question - 04/22/21
So this would be like a new and improved Murray's book? I'm in!
Posted By: dsr1935 Re: Book question - 04/22/21
Great idea. I would like to have one.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/22/21
Originally Posted by gregintenn
So this would be like a new and improved Murray's book? I'm in!

Obviously both Murray's and mine are Savage 99 reference books and will talk about 99's, but mine isn't just an updated Murrays. In fact I think I opened Murray's book once while writing this, and that was just to see what he had for the precursor rifles - which won't be in the pocket reference at all.

This is more properly called the campfire pocket reference guide.. cuz I scrounged through a lot of old threads and had folks (Rick, Fug, Gene) digging through old notes for information on everything. I think I got Loggah to walk a few extra miles looking at his guns every now and then too. grin
Posted By: 513JAKE Re: Book question - 04/22/21
That sounds great. Sign me up.
Posted By: texken Re: Book question - 04/22/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by texken
murray's book 3-5 to 3-84 would be great for me

Murray did a hell of a job back when all research had to be done by hand... but it drives me bonkers now to look at a lot of those entries and to know how much more accurate info we've dug up here for all the models.


exactly, hadn't thought of that
Posted By: jsgwoodsman Re: Book question - 04/22/21
That sounds like a great idea and would become another valued "stays in the truck and travels to every show" reference book!!!
I'd take one or two.
Posted By: Malcolm Re: Book question - 04/22/21
Absolutely great idea for knowing what Savage you may find at s gun show.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 04/23/21
Rory, do you have a photo of a Rentzschke engraved 99F? I missed one at the Denver show quite a few years ago because I didn't know what is was. I'll send you a photo if you don't have one.
Posted By: eaglemountainman Re: Book question - 04/23/21

Rory, is there a time frame for release, or still too soon for that?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/23/21
Originally Posted by wyo1895
Rory, do you have a photo of a Rentzschke engraved 99F? I missed one at the Denver show quite a few years ago because I didn't know what is was. I'll send you a photo if you don't have one.

I don't yet, but I doubt I'll have a picture of one in the pocket reference. Probably need one for the full book.

Originally Posted by eaglemountainman

Rory, is there a time frame for release, or still too soon for that?

I'd sure love to have it for sale by summer.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 04/23/21
I wish every Tom Dick and Harry who will ever buy, own, borrow, inherit, or steal a Savage 99 buys one of these field guides. Aside from eliminating a lot of super-repetitive queries here and on FB, it would make Calhoun filthy stinkin' rich and he could then take us all out for ice cream.

Make a note that I'll take a copy, Rory.
Posted By: S99VG Re: Book question - 04/23/21
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I wish every Tom Dick and Harry who will ever buy, own, borrow, inherit, or steal a Savage 99 buys one of these field guides. Aside from eliminating a lot of super-repetitive queries here and on FB, it would make Calhoun filthy stinkin' rich and he could then take us all out for ice cream.

Make a note that I'll take a copy, Rory.


I'll second the ice cream proposal!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/23/21
Okay... we're talking like 2 scoops of generic ice cream here, right? None of that gun control Ben & Jerry's crap? grin
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 04/23/21
At least make it Breyer's! grin
Posted By: S99VG Re: Book question - 04/23/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Okay... we're talking like 2 scoops of generic ice cream here, right? None of that gun control Ben & Jerry's crap? grin


I'm thinking a couple magnum scoops. Maybe something along the lines of a 375 H&H!
Posted By: Loggah Re: Book question - 04/23/21
I dont know abut the ice cream unless its vanilla with maple syrup on it ! grin and i hope to helle that no one suggests owning a copy for each savage rifle owned !!!!! crazy crazy
Posted By: Blitz Re: Book question - 04/23/21
I like the ice cream suggestion. To keep it in the Savage vein, we could go with Turkey Hill. They make a killer mint chocolate chip...
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/23/21
Originally Posted by Loggah
I dont know abut the ice cream unless its vanilla with maple syrup on it ! grin and i hope to helle that no one suggests owning a copy for each savage rifle owned !!!!! crazy crazy

That ice cream place in Plymouth that had the maple walnut ice cream... oh, yum..

And yes.. everybody should buy one for each 1895, each 1899 and each 99 they own. Definitely good idea. grin
Posted By: Blackdragon64 Re: Book question - 04/24/21
Good Day All! New to the Campfire! I'd be interested in a copy or 2 myself! Thnx
Posted By: knivesforme Re: Book question - 04/24/21
I would-will purchase one.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 04/24/21
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I wish every Tom Dick and Harry who will ever buy, own, borrow, inherit, or steal a Savage 99 buys one of these field guides. Aside from eliminating a lot of super-repetitive queries here and on FB, it would make Calhoun filthy stinkin' rich and he could then take us all out for ice cream.

Make a note that I'll take a copy, Rory.

If he is going to get filthy rich he must have a different publisher than I have. I would have to sell almost a million copies of the Collector's Guide to get a million bucks in royalties. My next royalty check is due by next Friday. I bet they forgot to send it again.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 04/26/21
Originally Posted by wyo1895
If he is going to get filthy rich he must have a different publisher than I have. I would have to sell almost a million copies of the Collector's Guide to get a million bucks in royalties. My next royalty check is due by next Friday. I bet they forgot to send it again.

Definitely won't be getting filthy rich. But mine also won't be a reference guide you'll find on Amazon or in Barnes & Noble soon, because doing the "global distribution" thing through book dealers gives an immediate 50% of the book price to the dealer as profit and would remove pretty much all profit I made unless I bump the price up. Pretty much like they do to you.

So I'll probably sell a limited number of books myself for you guys and to take to gun shows/etc, and then there will be an online store available to buy your own copies from for as long as you want. It won't be a printing run of X number of copies.. as long as folks keep ordering it, the books will keep being made. Once the book is available I'll pass that online store link around.

Printed out a sample run on my printer last night.. 108 pages at the moment with all the models from 1895A to 99RMEF and date charts in it. Need to add checkering/engraving chapters, few other things at the end. It looked good. Have to clean up the photos to print brighter, shrinking them down has caused them to print really dark. Getting there, though.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/18/21
I can sit and work at the computer for 16 hours a day with no problems...

But, boy... do I hate working with pictures. A few hours of that and my eyes start going out of focus... Good thing I never had the urge to be a graphics designer.

Coming along nicely. Having to rework the pictures for the smaller page format, but have all the dates, models by year and model information in. About 75% done with reworking the pictures, then add in a couple of short post chapters - would like to include barrel addresses, but think I'll skip that for the initial release. Just don't have a complete set of info. I don't usually pay too much attention to barrel addresses, but that 99T in 22HP on GB with a barrel from 20 years earlier shows how useful it can be.
Posted By: Loggah Re: Book question - 05/18/21
My wife was a graphic designer for over 30 years!!! grin had her own printing business, and damned happy to be retired !!!!! grin grin
Posted By: Centennial Re: Book question - 05/18/21
Im definitely interested in 1 or 2. So glad i stumbled into this Savage 99 stuff...boy you guys are great!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/18/21
I've worked with them.. some of them are very interesting people. Course, there are very interesting IT people also. grin

I appreciate them more now. My eyes literally won't focus on anything more than 20 feet away. Time to get outside for a while.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 05/19/21
I know how you feel. I spent all day yesterday and today checkering. Tiny wooden diamonds are imprinted on my eyeballs.
Posted By: norm99 Re: Book question - 05/21/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Got to burn a couple vacation days this month, so got a 4 day weekend starting tomorrow. I'll get to work on it and see if I can't get the rest of the models reformatted for it. Then I'll start finding miscellaneous pictures to fill up the blank spots.

This may not be too long of a process.


i would be in for three , i'll give you the 3 consecutive numbers later ,, they are under 100

norm
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/26/21
Sent out first draft to a couple of victims volunteers who have offered to proofread it for typos and content. Still some work to do on it... but it's coming along! Got a 5 day weekend to add the few missing parts.
Posted By: JeffG Re: Book question - 05/26/21
Exciting news! Can we pre-order them yet?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/26/21
No.. until I get the proof copy in hand, I have no idea how much rework will be necessary on pictures/etc. So just trying to get to the point of being able to do that proof copy.
Posted By: texken Re: Book question - 05/26/21
did Murray make numerous mistakes or not, given with how he had to research for info.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 05/26/21
"i would be in for three , i'll give you the 3 consecutive numbers later ,, they are under 100"

You know that's going to double the price! laugh laugh wink
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Book question - 05/26/21
I'm still under the impression he's honoring David's numbers for matching sets. I'm in for 2, #22 and #23.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/26/21
Originally Posted by texken
did Murray make numerous mistakes or not, given with how he had to research for info.

Murray's books has numerous errors because he had to dig up all the information manually, and we've had 30+ years to refine our knowledge of 99's.

What Murray did was awesome, but we have much better information now.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/26/21
And I'm sure we'll find mistakes in mine. I'll probably start an errata list here here of corrections so that folks can print it out and put it in their book.

When the errors get to be serious enough, I can update the book and release a 2nd edition easily.
Posted By: saddlering Re: Book question - 05/26/21
Put me down for one Rory! Any number is fine, just sign it!
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 05/27/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
And I'm sure we'll find mistakes in mine. I'll probably start an errata list here here of corrections so that folks can print it out and put it in their book.


Not always errors. Often it is thing we just didn't know at the time. Those finds are what keeps the Savage levers interesting for me.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/27/21
Originally Posted by Rick99
Originally Posted by Calhoun
And I'm sure we'll find mistakes in mine. I'll probably start an errata list here here of corrections so that folks can print it out and put it in their book.


Not always errors. Often it is thing we just didn't know at the time. Those finds are what keeps the Savage levers interesting for me.

An error, to me, is just an incorrect statement. So Murray's had them, David's has them, mine will have them. We just don't know everything now, and some of what we believe is wrong. Date ranges are something that will continue to be refined for years to come probably.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 05/27/21
New knowledge just keeps cropping up. You reach a point where you just have to stop and get the damn thing published.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/27/21
Originally Posted by wyo1895
New knowledge just keeps cropping up. You reach a point where you just have to stop and get the damn thing published.

And that's the truth...
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by wyo1895
New knowledge just keeps cropping up. You reach a point where you just have to stop and get the damn thing published.

And that's the truth...


And then you'll feel like an idiot later when something you didn't know about becomes common knowledge and people talk about your book like, "He did the best he could with only the internet to work with" LOL
Posted By: GeneB Re: Book question - 05/28/21
Just make sure you cover yourself with a foot note stating "Found it on the internet so it must be true."
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 05/28/21
I want the overseas distribution franchise. Could you do editions in German, French, Russian, and Italian too? grin
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by GeneB
Just make sure you cover yourself with a foot note stating "Found it on the internet so it must be true."

Footnote on the Acknowledgements page says any mistakes came from Fireball. grin

Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I want the overseas distribution franchise. Could you do editions in German, French, Russian, and Italian too? grin

Only if google translate will handle.. and even then all those long German words would double the page count.
Posted By: Southern_WI_Savage Re: Book question - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I want the overseas distribution franchise. Could you do editions in German, French, Russian, and Italian too? grin

Portuguese?
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Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 05/28/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
[quote=GeneB]Just make sure you cover yourself with a foot note stating "Found it on the internet so it must be true."

Footnote on the Acknowledgements page says any mistakes came from Fireball. grin

Good call.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 05/28/21
Ima be famous!
Posted By: norm99 Re: Book question - 05/29/21
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Calhoun
[quote=GeneB]Just make sure you cover yourself with a foot note stating "Found it on the internet so it must be true."

Footnote on the Acknowledgements page says any mistakes came from Tinkerbell grin

Good call.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 06/04/21
Still have a few things to get together, but uploaded the 95% that is done (well.. hopefully is done) and ordered a proof copy. Get it back as soon as possible to find out which pictures won't work and which pages might need to be redone.

Life is good. Now just have to wait..
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 06/04/21
Good job.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 06/04/21
Proud of ya, Rory! I have booksellers across Antarctica lined up.
Posted By: ring3 Re: Book question - 06/08/21
I’d like one Rory. Add me to the list (if your keeping one).
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 06/10/21
Oooh... draft copies in hand! Don't harass me about the cover, I threw something together in 15 minutes just to get the draft copies printed. Though actually.. I'm kind of liking it.

And the pictures look FAR better than I expected. The print quality is amazing. If anything, I might have to reduce exposure on a few pictures that are too bright.

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Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Book question - 06/10/21
Excellent job Rory. I'm in for a couple
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 06/10/21
What is the width, length and thickness.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 06/10/21
Originally Posted by Rick99
What is the width, length and thickness.

4 1/4" x 6 7/8" x 3/8"

Some of the special grade pictures are pretty dark. I'll see what I can do about improving those.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 06/10/21
Murray's is 6x9x3/8" so about 3/4 the size. Sounds about right. smile
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 06/10/21
6" x 9" is "trade" size, pretty much the default and very common. I was thinking just slightly larger than trade for my full book, but since I'm doing this small version I might make the full book even a bit larger. We'll see.
Posted By: Loggah Re: Book question - 06/10/21
Looking good !!!! i'll only need a half dozen smile
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Book question - 06/10/21
I'm in for two.
Posted By: eaglemountainman Re: Book question - 06/10/21

Could I, please, get two signed copies, Rory?
Posted By: norm99 Re: Book question - 06/14/21
Originally Posted by norm99
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Got to burn a couple vacation days this month, so got a 4 day weekend starting tomorrow. I'll get to work on it and see if I can't get the rest of the models reformatted for it. Then I'll start finding miscellaneous pictures to fill up the blank spots.

This may not be too long of a process.


i would be in for three , i'll give you the 3 consecutive numbers later ,, they are under 100

norm


under my name 152 , then 153 154,154 with no names just signed by u thanks
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/09/21
The end is near... thank goodness! grin

Few fixes this weekend, review latest data for start/end dates per year, then upload and print off another draft.. hopefully it'll be good and ready by end of the month. If I need to make fixes after seeing the draft, probably mid-August.

140 pages, not counting the cover. Photographs aren't all that great, but it has the best I could do on the small format.
Posted By: Savage94C Re: Book question - 07/10/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Oooh... draft copies in hand! Don't harass me about the cover, I threw something together in 15 minutes just to get the draft copies printed. Though actually.. I'm kind of liking it.

And the pictures look FAR better than I expected. The print quality is amazing. If anything, I might have to reduce exposure on a few pictures that are too bright.

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For my two cents, I like your "threw something together in 15 minutes" cover.........looks Savage 99, rustic, huntin', and real nice!!! Ifin' you're taking a poll, I for it. smile
Posted By: bigolddave Re: Book question - 07/10/21
I'd like two copies.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/11/21
Proof reading.. sucks, but so necessary. Almost invented a 250-30000 cartridge for a dozen models.

I think I'd want a recoil pad for that.. maybe a vehicle mount. grin
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/12/21
It's... done.

Hopefully.

Final draft copies ordered. Unless there's a serious flaw, should be available to order online in a few weeks. Might be 5-6 weeks before I have any in hand to ship out.

I think I see drinking in my future tonight. A lot of sleep after that..

The pictures are what they are. At this small format, there won't be a lot of detail in many. But better than nothing, and most will be "okay". Buy it for the data. Then we can start improving on that, especially for postmils.
Posted By: saddlering Re: Book question - 07/13/21
Nice Rory, I'm I'm for one signed!
Posted By: savage24 Re: Book question - 07/15/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Proof reading.. sucks, but so necessary. Almost invented a 250-30000 cartridge for a dozen models.

I think I'd want a recoil pad for that.. maybe a vehicle mount. grin

That would be hard on barrels!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/15/21
I think the final count is 142 significant variations of 58 different models.

That's not counting things like the 800,000 rifles as a variation, different calibers as variations, different barrel lengths as variations, or counting very small groups of transition rifles, late rifles with a mixture of early model features, etc. So the blued DE's got a mention, but there weren't enough made to become a 'variation'. On the other hand, a few hundred octagon barreled 99C's were enough to be a variation.

142 production variations that were catalogued or made in significant numbers.

That's a lot of variations... wonder if we'll find more postmil variations?

PS: A few instances, like the 1927-1928 group of 99's that were made with a mirror blue, could be argued that they should be a separate variation. I noted the change, but in the end didn't make them a separate variation. I'd love to see the ledger entries for some of those..
Posted By: Malcolm Re: Book question - 07/17/21
122623 was a 1912 src. .303 that made it's way to B.C. and which is ,I believe a mirror blue though not much is left of the finish it shows that prospective. It needs to be reassembled ;at this point needing only a new saddle ring staple.
Incidently your book will be in demand and so will David's for a long time out there.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/17/21
Originally Posted by Malcolm
122623 was a 1912 src. .303 that made it's way to B.C. and which is ,I believe a mirror blue though not much is left of the finish it shows that prospective. It needs to be reassembled ;at this point needing only a new saddle ring staple.
Incidently your book will be in demand and so will David's for a long time out there.

Thank you. I hope folks find it useful.

And yeah.. your 1899F is the 3rd variation and would have had mirror blue finish and perchbelly stock. By serial number it would date to very early 1912, though guns didn't get finished in serial number order so it might have been accepted a bit later.
Posted By: nash22 Re: Book question - 07/17/21
I'll take one
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 07/18/21
It just occurred to me in a brief bout of sobriety that I have not requested a copy. My apologies. If available I would like one.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/18/21
Well.. I'll see if I can't find a spare, raggedy edged copy that's laying around after I ship all the rest. Anything for you, Roy! grin

No, there'll be plenty. No worries.

David is going to dig out his spreadsheet and send it to me here in the next couple of days for who got numbered copies. I'll try to stick with that so folks can have matching numbered books, at least for the first couple of months. I don't know how many empty slots are in that list, or how many folks won't be around to ask or maybe won't want a copy of mine. So if you don't have a numbered book from David Royal, you might need to wait a couple months before you can claim jump somebody else's number that hasn't spoken up. grin


If the proofs that show up this week look good, there will be a web site up almost immediately that you can order unsigned copies from. Delivery will probably take 3 weeks after ordering. If the proofs don't look good or need fixes.. might be another 2 or 3 more weeks for me to get new proofs after making fixes.

For those wanting signed or signed/numbered copies, I'll be posting up my address for folks to send a check to. I'll have to wait for a mass order to be shipped to me, and then ship them to you - so there will probably still be a 3 week delay before you get it in your hands. Joys of USPS. Yay.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 07/18/21
Should we refer to it as Rory's or Calhoun's book? grin
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Book question - 07/18/21

Originally Posted by Rick99
Should we refer to it as Rory's or Calhoun's book? grin


Good question, my vote is for ‘Rory’s book’.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 07/18/21
Reserve a copy for me also, Rory. Could've used this book 5-10 years ago when I was in the throes of the addiction, before I entered rehab!
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 07/18/21
The spreadsheet is a mess. I didn't write the numbers by some people's names. Fortunately I saved all the letters. It'll take a while but I'll get them together and send them to you.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/18/21
David.. we could just trust people to tell me the number they had.

We have a trustworthy bunch here, don't we? grin
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 07/18/21
uh huh
Posted By: Blitz Re: Book question - 07/18/21
I've got #53 of Davids book. So 53 it is!
Posted By: TomA Re: Book question - 07/18/21
I have # 100 and 101 of Davids book and will order 2 copies when they are available. Tom.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 07/19/21
#'s 13 to 19 went to a local dealer. I'll take #14. The other numbers are up for grabs.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Book question - 07/19/21

Rory, I’ll take two with any #, signed of course.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 07/19/21
I'm #8, but #1 would be okay, as well. wink
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
This is what I have so far for specific numbers to people. About 35 more for people who haven't specified a number.

And, sorry Rick.. already had you down for a number besides #1. Don't know who had #99, but you're getting that unless you don't want it.

Code
8	Rick99
13	wyo1895
21	JoeMartin
22	JoeMartin
53	Blitz
99	Rick99
100	TomA
101	TomA
152	norm99
153	norm99
154	norm99
199	olgrouser
399	Jaaack
Posted By: oldtimer303 Re: Book question - 07/19/21
#7 to oldtimer G W Pender303 to match my rifle and Wyo1895's book. Thankds GW
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Should have that in there.. sorry about that. It's in now.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: Book question - 07/19/21

Rory,
Will take the two lowest #’s that are available.
Ted
Posted By: KeithNyst Re: Book question - 07/19/21
My Number in David's is 375. I will take 2 Rory.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Originally Posted by Poconojack

Rory,
Will take the two lowest #’s that are available.
Ted

I'll put you on the waiting list for whatever is left open. Sounds like 13-19 will be if nothing lower.
Posted By: 450yukon Re: Book question - 07/19/21
I’ll take a signed one too, when you’re ready no # needed and will a US money order work from up North here?
Bob.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 07/19/21
#8 and #99...I'll take both.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Originally Posted by 450yukon
I’ll take a signed one too, when you’re ready no # needed and will a US money order work from up North here?
Bob.

Don't see why not, if the bank will cash it. Gonna have to work out shipping for up there, tho.

Yoohoo! I've gone international! grin
Posted By: Savage94C Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Rory---If available I'll take #28, my old badge number when I was a crime fighter! I don't have a numbered book of David's.
Posted By: Savageupnorth Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Rory,
I will take # 119 to match's David's book.
Thanks,
Bruce
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Done..

Oh, and I forgot. No un-numbered books. I'll do 500 cuz I like you guys so much, but after that if you want a signed book you'll have to catch me at a gun show or SavageFest or buy me a beer. I don't want to be shipping books forever.

This will increase the rarity of signed books and increase their collector values in the years to come, so it's really to help y'all out. grin
Posted By: riflegunbuilder Re: Book question - 07/19/21
I'd like one. Not picky about the number.
Posted By: Loggah Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Rory, I'll take 6 of them ,write whatever you want to me and Dick ,the other 4 dont need to be signed. smile i know a few gunshops that need education!!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Most gun shops need books with big pictures. Don't know if this will help that type. grin

I'll put it down though.
Posted By: 513JAKE Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Rory,
If this is the proper place and time to reserve numbers, I would like signed copies of #16 and another signed copy with the lowest available number. Please and thank you!

-Jake
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
It's the time to reserve numbers. Hoping the time to get them out the door is soon. Waiting... waiting... It's like watching that stupid progress bar on computer apps. It gets to 90% done and then stops there for 4 hours.
Posted By: diamondjim Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Done..

Oh, and I forgot. No un-numbered books. I'll do 500 cuz I like you guys so much, but after that if you want a signed book you'll have to catch me at a gun show or SavageFest or buy me a beer. I don't want to be shipping books forever.

This will increase the rarity of signed books and increase their collector values in the years to come, so it's really to help y'all out. grin

None of us will see the value increase......😂😅🤣

Oh. Three books. 58, 87, 91. If available.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Book question - 07/19/21
I don't want a specific number, but your lip prints in red lipstick would be a hoot!! (And don't forget the blank check to use as a bookmark!!)

A cool imprint would be to use a .303 case head as a rubber stamp under your signature.....
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Jim, gotcha.

gnoahhh.. I'm kinda liking that idea. Naturally it would be an SRAC 303 headstamp.
Posted By: diamondjim Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Make sure that check is signed......
Posted By: triple_deuce Re: Book question - 07/19/21
I will take a signed copy of any number Rory!!

Joe
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Since this is the time to reserve numbers I would like #399 to match my copy of David’s book.

Thanks,
Jack
Posted By: diamondjim Re: Book question - 07/19/21
Thanks Rory.
Posted By: Blitz Re: Book question - 07/20/21
I'd like to get 2 if possible. #53 to match Davids book, and 22, or 43 if available. If not, I'll take whatever is available.

Thanks!
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 07/20/21
Best way to make these collectible is for one of you high rollers to buy all the remaining ones and stick them in a box in the attic. LOL
Posted By: damnesia Re: Book question - 07/20/21
I'll take one, don't care about the number.
Posted By: Rakkasan Re: Book question - 07/20/21
Calhoun,

Number 77 for me please.

Thank you,

Doug
Posted By: Dale K Re: Book question - 07/21/21
I'd like #358 please, that'll match David's book for me.

Dale
Posted By: jsgwoodsman Re: Book question - 07/21/21
I’d like 2 please.
#70 and #71 if available.
Thank you!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/21/21
Rakkasan - 77
Dale_K - 358
jjsgwoodsman - 70, 71

Got 'em entered. The latest proofs have been shipped, hopefully everything will be good.
Posted By: Savage94C Re: Book question - 07/21/21
To 99er's on the forum/here and there. Back on the 19th (found on page 7 of this thread) I made a request for #28 of Rory's book. If there is any of you who have #28 of David's book and want a like number of Rory's, let him know. I wrote him a PM in reference to this. I have David's book but it isn't numbered, but figured one of you reading may want good Ol #28 (my badge number when I was fighting crime and corruption). Good day to all. Sav. 94C
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/21/21
I've got it entered as "if available". All good.

Once I start shipping I'll probably give folks a month couple weeks to pop up and claim their matching number to David's book, after that I'll start shipping books with unclaimed numbers.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/22/21
Another milestone hit.. final proofs are HERE!!! Well, I hope to heck they are final proofs.

I'll be going looking through them for glaring errors. But barring something major, I think the website to buy them will be up within a week.

And.. it will be available in both paperback (good for carrying in the back pocket for gun shows), and hardcover (good for a desk copy). Paperbacks are 4.25" x 6.875" x 0.375", hardcovers are 4.5" x 7.125" x 0.5"

Printer made it easy to do both, so I thought what the heck. The higher cost for the hardback is just how much more the printer charges, I'll make about the same off of either book.

I don't think the shopping cart will charge tax to folks from outside of Nebraska, so prices will be:

Web site: (shipping should be $5 or bit less for cheapest option, or pay for overnight if you want.. grin)
------------
Paperback: $21.99 each plus shipping
Hardcover: $28.99 each plus shipping

Signed copy: (I think I can get shipping under $5 for most of US)
-----------------
Paperback: $26.99 each plus shipping
Hardcover: $33.99 each plus shipping

[[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]


PS: A calendar similar to the one the books are sitting on will probably be available as well. Almost all the pictures are from Fug's collection, and will showcase the checkering and engraving styles for 1899's since I couldn't get good pictures of those in this small book.
Posted By: saddlering Re: Book question - 07/23/21
Sounds good Rory, let us know when you would like payment, and how!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/23/21
Probably put my address out for y'all next week.

But folks should consider this the countdown for reserving a book number that matches their book from David. In a couple weeks I'll match up the numbers I know about, and then starting the rest from the bottom and going up.
Posted By: ctw Re: Book question - 07/23/21
The calendar idea is a great one.
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: Book question - 07/23/21
I will take one too. Don't care about a special number.
Posted By: triple_deuce Re: Book question - 07/23/21
Signed hard copy #303 if available please. Thanks.

Joe
Posted By: kiwi Re: Book question - 07/26/21
I'll Book one Please
Shipping to New Zealand will be different than Quoted but may get a US address to post to
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 07/26/21
Graham, I can ship it to you if need be.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/26/21
Shipping a signed one shouldn’t be a problem, and ordering an unsigned one as well. No idea what shipping will be on them.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Book question - 07/26/21
Too bad there is no international 'Media Mail' rate.

Here's a link I use a lot to calculate postage. USPS Calculator
Posted By: kiwi Re: Book question - 07/27/21
Yes put me down for 2
1 Signed
1 Unsigned
Ill sort an address if all else fails post them to Rick & I will see when my man here can get back to the states
Cheers Graham,
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/30/21
Books ordered..

Working on getting a PO box for checks to be mailed to. Probably won't have it until Monday since I have to be there in person to show 2 forms of ID. Can't get a PO box without 2 forms of ID, but they want you to be able to vote without showing any? Sure, THAT makes sense.

So.. I should have an address to mail for y'all to mail checks to on Monday. Should have the books and be set up to start shipping signed books hopefully by 3 weeks from now.

Web site to order unsigned books is live right now. So if you'd like to buy any unsigned copies, head to:

www.savagelevers.com

Check back to the web site in a couple days, there's a calendar I'm waiting to get a proof of that I'll be selling as well. Pictures from the Fug collection... I'll enable it for sales once I see a copy. In fact you might want to wait a couple days to buy there and get the calendar with the unsigned book(s) for combined shipping, the calendar should be a treat if the pics printed well.

Web site orders may be slow, printing and shipping likely to take 2-3 weeks.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 07/30/21
My wife and I met Rory and his wife at Old Faithfull a few days ago. He showed us one of his prototypes. It looks good and is very informative.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/30/21
It was a fun talk! I should have kept count of how many times the wives rolled their eyes and said “I have no idea what they’re talking about!”. grin
Posted By: diamondjim Re: Book question - 07/30/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
It was a fun talk! I should have kept count of how many times the wives rolled their eyes and said “I have no idea what they’re talking about!”. grin


They aren't the only ones who roll their eyes at you Rory........... laugh
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/30/21
Jim, that’s not wrong… grin
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Book question - 07/30/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Books ordered..

Working on getting a PO box for checks to be mailed to. Probably won't have it until Monday since I have to be there in person to show 2 forms of ID. Can't get a PO box without 2 forms of ID, but they want you to be able to vote without showing any? Sure, THAT makes sense.

So.. I should have an address to mail for y'all to mail checks to on Monday. Should have the books and be set up to start shipping signed books hopefully by 3 weeks from now.

Web site to order unsigned books is live right now. So if you'd like to buy any unsigned copies, head to:

www.savagelevers.com

Check back to the web site in a couple days, there's a calendar I'm waiting to get a proof of that I'll be selling as well. Pictures from the Fug collection... I'll enable it for sales once I see a copy. In fact you might want to wait a couple days to buy there and get the calendar with the unsigned book(s) for combined shipping, the calendar should be a treat if the pics printed well.

Web site orders may be slow, printing and shipping likely to take 2-3 weeks.


You didn't have a mailing address before? LOL
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/30/21
I’d rather use an anonymous PO Box for 12,000 strangers on Facebook. Sue me.
Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Book question - 07/30/21
I placed an order for four books. I am getting very forgetful in my old age and I just know I am going to have trouble remembering where i put them.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/30/21
Thank you!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/31/21
Saw the calendar, and I think it’s a go for sales.

Each month of this 16 month calendar is a showcase of a checkering or engraving style, with almost all pictures coming from Fug’s collection (a couple pictures of my guns slipped in). The two B checkering styles share a page, the early fleur-de-lis and the later flame style.

So thank Fug for this - and for a lot of the info and pics in the book as well.

It’s available on the web page now so you should be able to combine shipping with unsigned books. I won’t be signing or shipping calendars - signing my name onto Fug’s stuff would be wrong.
Posted By: damnesia Re: Book question - 07/31/21
Tried to order one and pay via Paypal,but I get a message that says: "the account for the counterparty is locked or inactive" and I cannot complete the order
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/31/21
Aaahh… I don’t have a link to a PayPal account for me set up. Didn’t know that was an option truthfully. Shut down my PayPal account years ago when they started their anti-gun crusade.

Sorry. I’ll look into it Sunday hopefully.
Posted By: damnesia Re: Book question - 07/31/21
No worries. I'll pay by a different means.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Book question - 07/31/21
Most bank checking accounts include the Zelle service. This is a secure, cost free, electronic transfer.

Y'all should check that out.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 07/31/21
Using an online service to provide shopping cart/payment handling. A lot of options, but I don’t see Zelle.
Posted By: Centennial Re: Book question - 07/31/21
Rory,
We've never met but i would like to thank you for your hard work and and making this information easily available to us and future generations.

I have a hard, soft, and calendar on the way, cant wait.

Thanks again and may you enjoy much success!!

Ralph "Chip" Alger
Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Book question - 07/31/21
2021 or 2022 calendar?
Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Originally Posted by Longbeardking
2021 or 2022 calendar?


OK so I am an idiot. I COMPLETELY missed the 16 month info.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Originally Posted by Longbeardking
2021 or 2022 calendar?

Yes.. grin

Sept. 2021 through Dec. 2022.

And I probably wasn't clear before - if you order books or a calendar from the website, the printer will ship directly to you when they print it (5-9 day wait usually, I think). I won't handle it.

When you buy a signed book, it will be a book I've had shipped to my house, and that I will then ship to you.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Book question - 08/01/21
"When you buy a signed book, it will be a book I've had shipped to my house, and that I will then ship to you."

You need to post that on the website very clearly. Also the number requested which would be dropped at some point.
Posted By: Longbeardking Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by Longbeardking
2021 or 2022 calendar?

Yes.. grin

Sept. 2021 through Dec. 2022.

And I probably wasn't clear before - if you order books or a calendar from the website, the printer will ship directly to you when they print it (5-9 day wait usually, I think). I won't handle it.

When you buy a signed book, it will be a book I've had shipped to my house, and that I will then ship to you.


You were PERFECTLY clear. I am like a kid in a candy store. All I saw was the books are ready to order through the website is up. BINGO order os placed I have hopes for maybe a signature at a later date. I got a phone call from someone asking me if I was into the sauce. He told me it was a 16 month calander. Thank you, Rory, for your diligence.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Hey, Rory. I've been busy and keep forgetting to put my order in. I'd like one of each, hard and soft bound. If possible, my signed copies of both of David"s books are 22 and 23. If those numbers are available, I'll take them. If not, what ever you have is good.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Got back from our Yellowstone vacation last night that we had cancelled last year. I’m going to compile all the book number requests today. Should be no problem, Joe.

Stephen, I think we can get you a couple signed copies at some point. grin
Posted By: Blitz Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Let be the one to ask....

Where do we send the checks/MO's for ordering?

If we buy through the website, will you know who it is and assign the requested numbers?

Signed copies and price?

Inquiring 24 campers need to know!

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

I love this place...

Blitz
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Originally Posted by Blitz
Let be the one to ask....

Where do we send the checks/MO's for ordering?
I'll be posting an address tomorrow. Had to get back from a Yellowstone vacation to set up a PO Box, sorry.

Originally Posted by Blitz
If we buy through the website, will you know who it is and assign the requested numbers?
Any books ordered through the website will be unsigned and unnumbered, since those will ship direct from the printer. My bad for not saying that clearly.. I updated the web page.

Originally Posted by Blitz
Signed copies and price?
Paperback - $26.99 + shipping
Hardcover - $33.99 + shipping

Unsigned copies will be $5 less if ordered on the web site.
Posted By: Blitz Re: Book question - 08/01/21
Thanks.

Just don't want to miss the opportunity!

Besides, having a "pocket reference" when in a gunshop is way better than my memory at this point!

I pity those who don't frequent this forum.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 08/02/21
Table of contents, just so folks know what's in the book. Tried to focus on subjects that you'd want to look up when you were in a gun show looking at a gun.

Barrel addresses are one thing I'd have liked to add. They'll be in the 2nd Edition and the larger book hopefully.

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Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 08/02/21
Anyone who has my book could copy the barrel addresses and put them loosely in your book.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 08/02/21
Good point.
Posted By: Savage94C Re: Book question - 08/02/21
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Table of contents, just so folks know what's in the book. Tried to focus on subjects that you'd want to look up when you were in a gun show looking at a gun.

Barrel addresses are one thing I'd have liked to add. They'll be in the 2nd Edition and the larger book hopefully.


Hey Calhoun---Are you saying the 2nd Edition whenever that comes out will contain more info than the current 1st? Anymore info than just the barrel address or will there be alot more 99 info not in the 1st? Just curious!
smile
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Book question - 08/02/21
Originally Posted by Savage94C
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Table of contents, just so folks know what's in the book. Tried to focus on subjects that you'd want to look up when you were in a gun show looking at a gun.

Barrel addresses are one thing I'd have liked to add. They'll be in the 2nd Edition and the larger book hopefully.

Hey Calhoun---Are you saying the 2nd Edition whenever that comes out will contain more info than the current 1st? Anymore info than just the barrel address or will there be alot more 99 info not in the 1st? Just curious! smile

For the Pocket Reference, I can't think of any more info to include than maybe the barrel addresses. Just isn't room to add much more and keep it a pocket sized book. I'm sure we'll find a few errors in the book, refine some serial number ranges and date mappings.. but what's there will stay the same as far as I can think of. Also no idea when a 2nd Edition will come out.. depends on how many errors we find, probably. grin
I'd guess a couple years, barring major errors being found. I do plan on providing an errata sheet for the book with corrections that you can slip in.

When I get working on the 2nd book, which will be a larger format.. that one will have more subjects in it. But it won't be a pocket guide you'll carry through a gun show unless you carry it in a backpack. But when I start on the bigger book, and when I finish it are big questions. Surely won't be this year, and even next year would be aggressive.
Posted By: Savage94C Re: Book question - 08/02/21
Well there's no icon for a 'thumbs up' to post so I'll just say "Thumbs up", "OK". and "10-4"!!!!! I couldn't wait anyway, will be going a numbered route, still a 'go' for #28, unless someone with David's book has #28 and wants a like numbered book of yours. Will wait a bit, if no request. I'll send a check or POMO which ever you prefer. Sav'94. smile
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Book question - 08/03/21
I don't have a record of who got #28. If someone on here got it they need to post it.
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