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Posted By: johno Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Well not a 99 but way back 10 years or so I picked up a cheap Remington 600, a member from the fire posted over a Remington 300 Sav barrel new take off which I had fitted. For some reason I sold it no idea why, hands up anyone else who's done that lol. Anyway its found its way back to me with the smith at the moment extractor was buggered bolt release pin broken & spring missing but bore was still as new.

So back to reloading, I load Hornady 150 grn SST's for a mate who has my old 99F he has shot dozens of sambar deer with it but i'm thinking that bullet is a little long compared to the short case neck been thinking of going back to the past and looking a flat base bullet.

What are you fellas using? if I could find some old rem corelokts i'd grab them a lot of reports down here than the new line of corelokt bullets are not proving to be as good as old ones

Johno
Posted By: hanco Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
I load the 130 Barnes for the 300 I have. They hammer pigs, haven’t shot a deer with one.
Posted By: zcm82 Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Originally Posted by hanco
I load the 130 Barnes for the 300 I have. They hammer pigs, haven’t shot a deer with one.

Same bullet I use in mine, driven to 2650-2750fps over a charge of H4198, N130, or IMR3031.

The Speer 125 TNT makes a good plinker, they're cheap and generally pretty easy to work up accurate loads with.
We use Sierra 150gr spitzers in our 300’s. Deer hate them! 😂
Posted By: zcm82 Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Originally Posted by triple_deuce
We use Sierra 150gr spitzers in our 300’s. Deer hate them! 😂

The Sierra 125 spitzers shoot pretty well from mine, but I've only killed paper and steel with them out of the 300. I do know the Sierra 110 FB Varminters knock the snot of of coyotes at both 303 and 300 velocities at short range. That is a BIG hollow point at the end of those.
The Hornady 150 Interlocks do well in my 99s chambered for 300 Sav.
150 Sierras and 180 Interlocks
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Nosler Partititons, whichever weight from 150gr to 180gr that your rifle likes. I prefer the 150gr/165gr, but they all kill things dead.

Using IMR4895.
Barnes TTSX 110's or 130's
Posted By: mathman Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Originally Posted by johno
Well not a 99 but way back 10 years or so I picked up a cheap Remington 600, a member from the fire posted over a Remington 300 Sav barrel new take off which I had fitted. For some reason I sold it no idea why, hands up anyone else who's done that lol. Anyway its found its way back to me with the smith at the moment extractor was buggered bolt release pin broken & spring missing but bore was still as new.

So back to reloading, I load Hornady 150 grn SST's for a mate who has my old 99F he has shot dozens of sambar deer with it but i'm thinking that bullet is a little long compared to the short case neck been thinking of going back to the past and looking a flat base bullet.

What are you fellas using? if I could find some old rem corelokts i'd grab them a lot of reports down here than the new line of corelokt bullets are not proving to be as good as old ones

Johno

That amounts to nothing whatsoever. My 700 Classic in 300 Savage loves 168 grain AMaxes and VLD Bergers.
I use 150 grain Sierras. They are loaded to about 2550 fps and do all I could ask a bullet to do on a whitetail. Haven't had the opportunity to tackle anything bigger.
Posted By: johno Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Well it shows a varied lot of bullets and weights that you blokes like, seems to be anything that shoots will be fine.

Thanks for the excuse to spend some dollars and hit the range, i'll go with the Hornady SST to start with

Johno
Originally Posted by hanco
I load the 130 Barnes for the 300 I have. They hammer pigs, haven’t shot a deer with one.


TSX or TTSX 130s?
Posted By: hanco Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/23/23
Originally Posted by KeithNyst
Originally Posted by hanco
I load the 130 Barnes for the 300 I have. They hammer pigs, haven’t shot a deer with one.


TSX or TTSX 130s?

TTSX’s, have used the 62’s out of an AR at that same speed, punched through several 150-200 lb pigs at 225 by this feeder. A 130 should have a lot of penetration. I think MR MuleDeer uses them in 300 Savages.

It’s 225 from green feeder to stand in background. Many a damn pig has been killed there. Trap a few, have fun shooting them during the off season, mostly with the 223’s


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I use 150 gr spitzer bullets by Speer, Hornady, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, et al. It doesn't seem to matter much which bullet is used, all have done well for my use. These get shot through a couple of Savage 99s, a Remington 700, a Remington 722, Remington 760, and a handful of Remington 81s.

Forgot to add powder: just about anything that gives me a velocity in the mid 2500 fps range works. I mostly use 4064 but Varget, 4895, and Winchester 748 have been used in the past.
Posted By: akpls Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/24/23
Hornady makes a 150 gr SST (#30303) specifically for the 300 Savage that accommodates the short neck.
Posted By: johno Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/24/23
You know one of the awful things about getting old is the failing memory, of course you are correct and that's what I loaded in my mates F and loaded for myself. I think a member here sent a couple of boxes over to me as they were not available here so now back to chasing the gun shops up

Regarding these bullets ive shot several big sambar deer with and my mate probably 20 or 30 sambar so bullet is proven for sure on these big animals

Johno
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/24/23
Cup and core at moderate speeds.
Posted By: zcm82 Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/24/23
Hope you're able to find some.

Those are currently in stock from a few stateside online stores, but I can't imagine international shipping on them would be very economic.

https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!l=HN&i=30303
Posted By: mathman Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/24/23
Originally Posted by akpls
Hornady makes a 150 gr SST (#30303) specifically for the 300 Savage that accommodates the short neck.

1. It's not about the short neck. Hornady shortened the ogive compared to the regular version to accommodate the 2.6" overall length spec for cartridges going into a Savage 99.

2. The OP is loading for a Remington 600, which I believe will hold 2.8" cartridges in its magazine.
I found the Hornaday 160 FTX cannulured for the 308 marlin express to be the bees knees!


Like blackberries and vanilla ice cream!
Posted By: Dale K Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/25/23
Originally Posted by eaglemountainman
The Hornady 150 Interlocks do well in my 99s chambered for 300 Sav.

^^^ This. They also work quite well in the 30-06 and keeps inventory simple.

Dale
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/25/23
I was/am a fanboy of the Speer 165 round nose. Down to my last box of them, and of course Speer seems to have discontinued them. Sierra 150's otherwise. All propelled by 4064 powder because I got good results with it early on and never felt the need to look further.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/25/23
I always loaded round nose bullets for the guaranteed splat factor in close-in hunting scenarios. (Undoubtedly all in my head, old tapes playing that were firmly planted there as a kid reading the gun rag propaganda back then.) But on the other hand, my viewing the .300 and its guns as strictly as a tool for woods work (and being cheap) the RN's served admirably. Were I taking pokes at deer across wide fields, canyons, and sage flats I probably would've changed my tune - but I also would've used a better gun for that purpose too (and did).

A few years ago I unexpectedly found myself seated watching a long wide hillside (an unplanned side trip during a hunting trip in PA's jungle-like flora) when out stepped a massive buck waaaaay over on the far side, 350+ yards away, and me sitting there with 165 RN's loaded pokey-slow in an iron sighted 99T - and absolutely no way to stalk closer. I sure wished I had my scoped M70 .30-06 sitting back at camp 60 miles away. That bruiser got a pass from me that day.
Posted By: Benbo Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/25/23
I too load the Speer 165rn in my 300 savages. Moderate charge of rl15 crumples deer. I think I’ve got about 200-220 of them left. They only get shot to verify poi then go hunting. Wish Speer would do another run of them. Have also shot a few deer with 150 partitions and hornady 150’s. They all worked well.
Those of you looking for Speer 165 RN bullets might look around right now. There are some available on a popular auction site.
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/25/23
I believe the 300 is best at moderate speeds with a soft point bullet. I really liked the original Corelokts.
Speer and Sierra now. 150gn or there about at 250 yards max.
The round is capable of more, but I'm not.
Originally Posted by Nessmuk
I believe the 300 is best at moderate speeds with a soft point bullet. I really liked the original Corelokts.
Speer and Sierra now. 150gn or there about at 250 yards max.
The round is capable of more, but I'm not.

My friend John grew up hunting with a 300 Savage that was his grandfathers. One time we were out in the mountains and I was shooting a 250 AI at 450 yards at a rock. He siad he wishes he could do that. I told him why can't you? He thought the little 300 wouldn't do it. I told him how to hold and he smacked that rock first shot! He was really surprised and it opened up his mind. It's not like the bullets hit 200 yards and fall to the ground. LOL

I've shot the .375 carbine to 500 yards and it's a friggen blast. Like shooting a 22LR at prairie dogs at 350 yards.
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/25/23
Between now being shaky off hand, and liking soft recoil, my 30cals are limited.
My 250ai bolt gun and a rest now...
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/26/23
I hear you, Giles. I'm the same way anymore. But for me it's a bunch of other similar cartridges and rifles. All good.
Posted By: captjohn Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/26/23
was not a popular bullet for the 300 savage a 150 grain silvertip, I know i have a box in the cabinet I will never use and move it along if that someones 300 bullet of choice, i seen it a few years ago at a gun show and grabbed it just becasue.
Posted By: 1899guy Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/26/23
The most accurate round I ever fired in my 300 is a 125 grain hand-load at 3,000 fps. I plan to try it on deer. All my stuff is still packed up in boxes from the move or I would post the recipe here.
Posted By: Switch Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/27/23
I shoot 125 Grain Nosler BT over a Varget. Hammer on Antelope and deer.
Originally Posted by captjohn
was not a popular bullet for the 300 savage a 150 grain silvertip, I know i have a box in the cabinet I will never use and move it along if that someones 300 bullet of choice, i seen it a few years ago at a gun show and grabbed it just becasue.

IDK about in the 300 Savage, but I'm not a fan of the Winchester SilverTip. The only I have used are the original 200 grain 358 Winchester factory loads. Shot two whitetails with them and was NOT happy with the performance for what, by all rights, should be a bruiser load. Shattered on the shoulder of an average size PA buck at 45 paces. Put him down, but I expected more. They are too soft. I now have plenty of brass for that cartridge and I've relegated those old factory boxes to paper punching to get once fired brass for that gun.

I'm fixing to get started handloading 300 Savage and the experiences posted here have been very helpful. Thanks everyone.
When I hunted with a 35 Remington I would shoot a deer though the front shoulder, break both shoulders most of the time. They would jump one time and not have an front legs to land on. The first ammo I found for the 250 were 100gr Silvertips. Had a deer come through the woods nice and slow. Shot him on the shoulder like I always did. He jumped and took off running, swung and shot him in the spine. The next day when I pulled the skin off, that front shoulder came off with the skin. Looked like a big gelatinous black mass. By then ST's were getting hard to find and I switched to 100 Remington CL's, AND, I never shot a deer on the shoulder again. I don't blame the Bullitt for my bad placement. I have no problem with 190 gr ST's in my 303.
That was a little OT, I still have a stash of 180 gr CL's for my 300.
Posted By: johno Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/28/23
Ive decided to stick with the 150grn SST but like cases for the 300 sav there are none in Australia so I will have to get a mate to post a couple of boxes over or maybe go speer hot core. There just isnt the demand for the 300 sav components here a great shame

Johno
Originally Posted by johno
Ive decided to stick with the 150grn SST but like cases for the 300 sav there are none in Australia so I will have to get a mate to post a couple of boxes over or maybe go speer hot core. There just isnt the demand for the 300 sav components here a great shame

Johno

Hey is Woodleigh back in business yet? Their 225 round nose is now my go to bullet in my 358 Winchester and I am running low.

Originally Posted by JoeMartin
AND, I never shot a deer on the shoulder again. I don't blame the Bullitt for my bad placement.


I'm not going to argue about the importance of bullet placement. It's a great skill to learn and hold on to, especially since it entails the ability to shoot well and exhibit patience (an underrated skill for hunters!). BUT, with deer, some cartridges need less "finesse" so to speak. For instance, my 35 Whelen, using a good 250 grain bullet, can shoot through an entire whitetail from any angle. Now, by "any angle", I mean the the bullet can hit the vitals from any angle. I would never punch one through the gut.

But I once took a nice PA buck that was standing looking straight away from me at about 70 yards. He was on a slight up angle, so the top of his body at his shoulders was higher then his butt. I simply aimed at the spot where the tail meets the body. The 250 grain broke his pelvis, went over the gut, hitting the top of the liver and proceeded through the heart lung region and out the front base of the neck. He might as well have been hit with Thor's Hammer.

That is the kind of performance I expect out of my 358 as well, maybe a little less but with whitetail, plenty enough.

Would I have attempted that shot with a 250 Savage, or any 25 caliber using 100 grain anything...................HECK NO!
There is a deal on terminal ballistics research annealing the SST bullet. Looks like he uses a candle.

Let’s face it Hornady seems to be the only dependable source for economical bullets any more.
Originally Posted by Angus1895
There is a deal on terminal ballistics research annealing the SST bullet. Looks like he uses a candle.

Let’s face it Hornady seems to be the only dependable source for economical bullets any more.
I remember reading that. Found it interesting.

DF
Check out the 130 gr. Shock Hammer. Not cheap but should work well in that round. Great accuracy and exceptional terminal performance.

DF
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/31/23
Originally Posted by petemacmahon
Would I have attempted that shot with a 250 Savage, or any 25 caliber using 100 grain anything...................HECK NO!

Why not? Instead of aiming at its ass (or right above it), just aim a skinch higher and blast him in the back of the neck or the back of the head. Heck, at only 70 yards I could've killed that deer standing like that with a .22 Hornet. Lights out.
Posted By: johno Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/31/23
Well the Hornady 150 SST #30303 is now unavailable down here seems the same for 300 savage brass fortunately I was able to pick up the last 100 cases the store had.

I have a box of Hornady 150 grn interlock projectiles on the way so will try them, probably jumping the gun haven't heard back from my smith on repairing my rem 600.

On the SST I just drove 4 hours return trip up he mountains to bick up a large sambar doe my mate shot yesterday evening a big girl and bang flop with these bullets from my old 99F

I will check about the Woodleighs for you

Johno
Posted By: 300jimmy Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 03/31/23
Originally Posted by captjohn
was not a popular bullet for the 300 savage a 150 grain silvertip, I know i have a box in the cabinet I will never use and move it along if that someones 300 bullet of choice, i seen it a few years ago at a gun show and grabbed it just becasue.


I've crushed some nice bucks with hand loaded 150 grain silver tips out of the 300 Sav. Full confidence.
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by petemacmahon
Would I have attempted that shot with a 250 Savage, or any 25 caliber using 100 grain anything...................HECK NO!

Why not? Instead of aiming at its ass (or right above it), just aim a skinch higher and blast him in the back of the neck or the back of the head. Heck, at only 70 yards I could've killed that deer standing like that with a .22 Hornet. Lights out.

It was a few years ago, but if I remember correctly, he was moving his head up and down, so I took the only shot that was consistent in the few seconds I had to make a shot.
Classic Texas Heart Shot. Crude but effective!
Getting a little O/T, especially since I've only taken one deer with one of my 300's.I think anyone who hunts should be a good shot. Not great. I think I'm a good shot, not great. I shot Hi Power when I was 12 and 13 in Military Academy, with an M1. I've long forgotten most of that stuff. My first pig hunt the guide told me if he used his 243 he shot them behind the ear. He said the 250 looked like a 243, go for a behind the ear shot. When he came to get me and my pig I joked how I had to wait 20 minutes for that pig to present me with a "behind the ear" shot. The next year I joked if he had trained the pigs to give me a good shot. He came back with, "why don't you just shoot it in the eye?" I had 3 nice pigs come out, so I waited for an easy eye shot. One of my cousins crew asked why my guys shot at such small targets. I said to hit a small target, you have to aim at a small target. That year I waited for a little spike to lift his head, and I shot him in the eye. The one constant in those three shots, I waited for the perfect target. In MD and WV there are enough deer and liberal bag limits, there is no need to take a rushed iffy shot. If I have a standing deer at 50 yards, with it's eye exposed, that's my target. If it's walking or all I can see well is a behind the shoulder, that's my target. I just don't take bad shots anymore. The thought of a Coyote eating a dear alive because I took a bad shot bothers me.
Posted By: johno Re: Thoughts on 300 sav loads - 04/02/23
Thought i'd throw something from a forum over here in regards to Speer 130grn varmint, a lot of blokes using these in 308's and are very happy they say the bullet is way stronger than a varmint bullet goats, pigs, fallow & red deer all pretty much bang flops. These might be worth me trying if my rem 600 ever gets back to me, one does not ring and nag a gun smith its sure to get you pushed back down the line

Johno
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