The family hand-me-down deer rifle is a WELL-USED Savage 99 EG in .300 Savage. It needs some professional help to be right again. I read recently in Sports Afield about one of the custom gunsmiths utilizing a guy named Doug Wells out of Montana who specializes in Savage 99 rifles. It gave no contact information. I reached out to Turnbull for a quote, needless to say that is way more than I’m willing to spend.
Anyone know how to find Doug Wells in Montana or perhaps somebody else who specializes in restoring Savage 99 rifles?
The only info I have is Huson Mt 406-626-4152 but that was about 10 yrs ago so good luck.
Don't know of a Savage 99 specialist, but Al Springer at Snowy Mountain Blue Gun Restoration did a fantastic job on my Savage 1895. I posted before and after pictures on this site.
I also spoke with Turnbull before contacting Al and was surprised at the quote.
If you get it refinished it will loose all the character that it acquired by years of use by your family and look like you just bought it off the rack Walmart or somewhere, just buy another similar gun in the condition you want and tell everyone it's a family heirloom, no one will probably be any wiser and you could save a lot of money. Seriously though, I think refinishing a family heirloom is a mistake, leave it as is and save the history it has recorded over the years.
I have a well used 1893 Marlin that was my fathers and before that my Uncles. It had had the barrel shortened, a rough homemade front sight added and a lot of signs of rough use. My Uncle is probably the one who did this as it was the rifle he used during the depression in South Dakota. It will remain as is as long as I have it since every mark on it is part of a story, most I can only guess at now, if I had it refinished I couldn't even do that.
I am not in the camp of refinishers but, it is your property to do with as you think appropriate. There is a fellow on YouTube that has some examples of refinished 99 that looks to be good. His name is Dennis Prichard if you wish to contact him.
A member of my Savage 99 Club on FB owns Dandee Reproductions in VA and does some really nice work on the 99’s. His name is Jay Ward.
I agree with GeneB. The rifle.is.precious because its condition reflects its history and the users thereof. Outward refinishing may make it look nice but it would lose its memorable character.
On the other hand, any internal/mechanical work needed to keep the gun functioning and safe is important.
Finally, I suggest watching a few Mark Novak YouTube videos under the name Anvil where he talks about "conserving" guns, making them safe and operable and stopping any rust or decay of either wood or metal. In addtion, he addresses any stock cracks, etc and other items that would continue to harm the gun.
These are just suggestions, additional information to consider prior to proceeding. You are fortunate to have to rifle and the honor of keeping it up to pass along to another generation. I have a couple myself that belonged to my grandpa and uncle. Good luck with this! Art
I think I have to vote for leaving it alone too. It’s condition is it’s history and that history will stay intact for as long as there is somebody who can tell it. There are plenty of well used 99s out there that have lost their history because they passed from the hands who made it. If you want to restore a 99 then get one of those. But if you want a nice 99 then save your money for a decent rifle to come up for sale. I’ve seen several on gunbroaker that have gone neglected for under 1K. Get one of those.
Pics would help. What one person calls well worn, another calls great condition. This is the “Savage Collector’s” forum. If they think it’s worth leaving alone, I’d take that as professional advice. If it’s too beat to save, they won’t hold any punches and, they “will” let you know it. Without pics, I’m in the leave it be camp.
A gun is only original once, I would resist the urge for any ‘professional’ help. Just wipe it down, take a whiff or two of the Hoppe’s No. 9 and call it a day.
I knew a guy who picked up a poor condition 99 in 25-35 back around 2001, the buttstock was broken and it needed internal parts. Not sure what he paid for it, but he had plans on having it restored. Havent seen him in a very long time. It was sitting in the corner of his man cave around 2003, the last time I saw him
I can't hate on any man that restores an old broken down rifle if that is what he wants to do.
I xan attest to the work of Jay Ward, he has done 4 projects for me and they are top notch.
I inherited my father in law’s 1952 EG 300 Savage. His wife didn’t like guns in the house so he wrapped it in canvas, didn’t coat it in oil or anything and stored in the crawl space of his Santa Cruz California coastal house for 35 years.
It was rusty and the stock was just grey, I had no choice but to restore it. That was 33 years ago, I’ve shot quite a few deer with it over the years and now it has a patina all its own.
I greatly appreciate all of the input. I’m no greenhorn when it comes to guns, especially classic designs like the Savage 99. Designs like the Winchester Model 70, 1892 and 1894, Marlin 39 and 1893, etc. are the apple of my eye.
The main reason I am considering restoration is because a lot of the work done to this gun over the years were bubba jobs. Never ever take the lowest bid on any kind of gun work, it practically always ruins a good piece. My grandfather did NOT understand this concept.
I took it to my local gunsmith located in Bend, and even though he’s a good friend of mine he said he wouldn’t touch it on account of it having been butchered. Pics to follow.
A gun is only original once, I would resist the urge for any ‘professional’ help. Just wipe it down, take a whiff or two of the Hoppe’s No. 9 and call it a day.
Your advice I hold in the highest regards.
Send me a PM. I have a guy who is AMAZING at restoring 99's, and his pricing is great as well. Only issue is that he does not do case coloring on the lever but for my 2 cents, either blue it (which I hate) or have my guy ship the lever only to Turnbull. You will save a ton!
I wouldn't have any problem with restoring a broken Bubba gun.
Send me a PM. I have a guy who is AMAZING at restoring 99's, and his pricing is great as well. Only issue is that he does not do case coloring on the lever but for my 2 cents, either blue it (which I hate) or have my guy ship the lever only to Turnbull. You will save a ton!
I’m mostly interested in reversing the bubba-age which has been wrought upon this otherwise priceless heirloom. Hoping to get those seven holes filled and the forend problem remedied at least. Hoping it doesn't need a new barrel!
I wouldn't have any problem with restoring a broken Bubba gun.
Nor I. But I generally avoid bubba'd guns. I like well worn originals but nothing fires me up more than extra holes. I just got taken across by a guy on a Winchester 94 32 Special and I'm still kinda pissed. He showed me pictures of a nice "original" post 64 for $600. I had to drive an hour and a half to meet him only to find there were four extra holes on the top of the barrel that he neglected to mention. He wouldn't take less and I drove 1.5 hours to see it so I just bought the thing. But I'm still a bit pissed
I wouldn't have any problem with restoring a broken Bubba gun.
Nor I. But I generally avoid bubba'd guns. I like well worn originals but nothing fires me up more than extra holes. I just got taken across by a guy on a Winchester 94 32 Special and I'm still kinda pissed. He showed me pictures of a nice "original" post 64 for $600. I had to drive an hour and a half to meet him only to find there were four extra holes on the top of the barrel that he neglected to mention. He wouldn't take less and I drove 1.5 hours to see it so I just bought the thing. But I'm still a bit pissed
Four extra holes on top of the barrel? What'd he do, mount a Unertl target scope on it? If it was about anything other than a M94 I would applaud him for saving me some work.
Jay Ward is a skilled craftsman but he makes little attempt at re-creating original finishes. Nicer than nice jobs, but a bit gaudy and doesn't color case harden stuff that should be. Not knocking him, just be sure that's what you want.
No idea. Must have been a Scout setup. The seller didn't think it was a big deal because the rear sight covers three of the four screw holes
I wouldn't have any problem with restoring a broken Bubba gun.
Nor I. But I generally avoid bubba'd guns. I like well worn originals but nothing fires me up more than extra holes. I just got taken across by a guy on a Winchester 94 32 Special and I'm still kinda pissed. He showed me pictures of a nice "original" post 64 for $600. I had to drive an hour and a half to meet him only to find there were four extra holes on the top of the barrel that he neglected to mention. He wouldn't take less and I drove 1.5 hours to see it so I just bought the thing. But I'm still a bit pissed
reminds me of a M54 in 270 i got with, brace yourself, 17 holes in the barrel. someone must have tried every mount known to man on it.
I wouldn't have any problem with restoring a broken Bubba gun.
Nor I. But I generally avoid bubba'd guns. I like well worn originals but nothing fires me up more than extra holes. I just got taken across by a guy on a Winchester 94 32 Special and I'm still kinda pissed. He showed me pictures of a nice "original" post 64 for $600. I had to drive an hour and a half to meet him only to find there were four extra holes on the top of the barrel that he neglected to mention. He wouldn't take less and I drove 1.5 hours to see it so I just bought the thing. But I'm still a bit pissed
reminds me of a M54 in 270 i got with, brace yourself, 17 holes in the barrel. someone must have tried every mount known to man on it.
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reminds me of a M54 in 270 i got with, brace yourself, 17 holes in the barrel. someone must have tried every mount known to man on it.
Holy cow... maybe they were going for some kind of record there 😏
And thought the model 43 I have with about half a dozen was bad 😬 Got it cheap because of all the holes though, which is right up my alley.
Nothing wrong with some extra holes if they adjust the price accordingly. That wasn't the case for me though
Could never get past any extra holes
Could never get past any extra holes
That should be your by-line...
Nothing wrong with some extra holes if they adjust the price accordingly. That wasn't the case for me though
Yeah, that definitely sucks. I have zero issues buying rifles with extra holes, but I won't pay collector's prices for a Swiss cheesed one, either.
Do what you feel you need to do if you have it redone 99.9%
of the people won't know it anyway and too many
extra holes on good fifty years from now who will know