There is a local man that says he has a Savage 1903 with a tube feed magazine, I thought the tubes came out with the 1914

1903's not only never were tube fed but I have never seen one stamped with a model number and I am reasonably sure they never were - so where does he get the idea it's a 1903? Ask if the tube is in the butt - might be a Winchester.

Go & check it out quickly
I'll try to find the photo I have somewhere of a prototype tube feed Savage did, (The Link won't Dispaly it any more) I can't Remember what year of manufacture
I did PM Rick a photo of one that came up in live auctioeers a year or so ago
He may have saved a copy
What I am saying is don't can it until you have seen it

Was the 1911 considered a tube-feed?

Ya, the 1911 would be a tube feed but I think what Kiwi is referring to was that prototype that had the tube roll around and up into the reciever. I remember pics of that gun but never saved any of them. Kinda bastardly looking thing, no wonder they never tried to market it, it looked like a half sucked milk dud.

Found it, it was a prototype of a 1905 repeater, I can see why they went with the single shot.

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=2794

I did not go look at it, after talking to him on the phone I saw a bad picture of it that the original seller sent to him, it looks like a 1914 but he says the barrel is marked Model 3C. He also said there were stamps reading 'RW 66' and Remington UMG also.
Thats a Savage 22 bolt barrel on a pump? I thought it was a parts gun so I told him I would pass.

Makes sense, I would to if it was that buggered up. The 3C barrel wouldn't bug me as much as the Rem parts on it would.......

I don't think that 1905 was a Savage prototype. I found the patent for it (825416). It was patented in 1906 by a P.W. Wisewell in Boston, Mass. I believe if it was a prototype it would have been assigned to Savage.

Pact

So did Savage steal that gun from Wisewell?

With the exception of the tube thats a classic 1905.

Rebarreled and since 1903's and most 1914's were only marked on the barrels that's the only info they have to go by if they don't know the guns.

Any one interested in a Springfield Model 83 clip fed pump? I don't understand the reason for rebarreling and not using a factory replacement - unless they no longer were available, but unmarked replacemnts should not have cost that much. The barrel would have needed to be turned and threaded and couldn't have been real cost effective considering effect on the value of the gun. PS this gun has a great bore.

I believe the 1905 is Wisewells patent model.

Gene you need a barrel for that one?

Pact

Pact, I have a barrel but it has the wrong barrel stamping for the serial number range (barrel says patent applied should have 1906 patent for this gun)- I really don't want to do that without marking it somehow, that way I don't put a gun out that might screw up someone trying to gather usable data on these. I have been collecting data and parts swapping like that would sure screw up my data.
(whats holding me up the most is not the finding of parts but finding the time and ambition!!)

On the patents, that Steven prototype pump I have never had the patents assigned to Stevens, I think that it probable that they built prototypes when possible before buying a patent and this would also be possibly advantagous to the inventor because he could go to someone else if they decided not to make it.

Gene

Thanks Mad Dog
That is the one I was thinking of. I was a bit off on the date But remembered it was early. I think your discription was a bit on the gental side but it is great what people with imagination can dream up
Thanks for posting the pic's I'll save them this time
Cheers Graham