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Posted By: Kevnbro Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
Fellers- yet another post with a photo I previously posted regarding the d/t'd receiver of my (now ID'd- thanks guys) 1952 Model 99EG.
I just acquired a Lyman 4x All American that I thought would be a nice addition to my rifle. As stated in a previous post, I will likely hunt with the iron sights next season just for the experience but an inexpensive option (the Lyman) presented itself and I jumped on it. Hopefully, the scope is being packaged and shipped as we speak but now I need some advice on mounting it, ie. base/rings etc. I'm re-posting the photo just to again show the location of the mount holes which I imagine are pretty standard. I'd also be curious to know some dates on this particular scope- online research didn't offer up much info. but was it a common and popular scope in the 50's? Earlier? Later? I'll likely acquire a more modern scope in the future but wanted to match the rifle to a scope of the day. Any and all advice is of course welcome. I just want to make sure I at least sound like I know what I'm talking about whenever I show-off my rifle to any of my (likely to be jealous) friends. smile

You all have been a great resource. Thanks! Kev

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Posted By: mad_dog Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
Base shouldn't be a problem but who makes 7/8" rings for the alaskan tube?

Oops, I see Redfield and Weaver both made 7/8" rings back in the day, not sure if they still do.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
I have seen them on ebay. Picked up a set just in case.
Originally Posted by mad_dog
Base shouldn't be a problem but who makes 7/8" rings for the alaskan tube?

Oops, I see Redfield and Weaver both made 7/8" rings back in the day, not sure if they still do.


Joe, I think the "All American" was only made in a 1" configuration.

Kevin,

In it's day, Lyman quality was right up there with Leupold. I have dumped all of my Weaver and converted to Lyman. For my money they are a better choice. YMMV!!!!
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
Oh man I need my coffee, I thought we were talking Alaskan......


Brainfart, sorry, carry on, nothing to see here.
I need a hell of alot more than coffee most of the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grin grin grin
Posted By: Kevnbro Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
I've had my coffee and hope you get yours soon mad dog- regardless, thanks for the quick reply. So I understand I need to pursue 1" rings.
Posted By: fish head Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
My dad bought a new commercial fn mauser in 1954 or 55 that had a new Lyman All American 4x with a post and crosshair reticle. It does not have a centered reticle. I have seen pictures of later models that have "fully centered reticle" on them. It was installed with Weaver mounts. 1" tube.

Hope this helps somewhat to date the scope.

fish head
Posted By: Kevnbro Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
Thanks fish head (why does that sound strange?). wink
I've heard/read much talk about Savage 99's with older Lyman scopes and that's what inspired pursuing it. It was listed in "good condition" with a few scratches due to age which I expected. Regardless, I get a scope that will work and look good doing it for under $50.00.
Posted By: Kevnbro Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
Here's the seller description by the way.
"great vintage scope for that savage 99 or winchester 88, good condition with small scratches as any older vintage hunting scope would have. clear optics with clean straight crosshair. Lyman all american 4x scope".
Posted By: saddlering Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/05/10
The All American should be 1" rings the Alaskan was 7/8 rings and some of the Challangers were 26MM rings, Lyman scopes are nice i have them on almost all my guns!
John
Posted By: Kevnbro Re: Lyman All American 4x - 03/18/10
My All American arrived in the mail today! Clean, no scratches, crisp crosshairs and clean lenses. Some mounts and rings and I'll be ready to mount and sight the .300 in for next Arkansas' modern gun whitetail season. OR, do I hunt the Redfield model 70 iron sights?? Decisions, decisions. grin
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