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Posted By: Jericho Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
Where is the best source for exact year of manufacture
on a 99?
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
right here
Post your serial number, XX last two numbers. If their is one also post the lever boss code. Found on the lever boss front , just above the screw that hold the lever onto the gun. Might need a magnifier to read, is within a stamped oval. GW
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
Murray's has a rough guide up through 1949 at the back. Not extremely accurate, but close enough. From 1949 through 1970 you can get a year by the LBC code. After 1970, gotta come here.
Posted By: Ron_T Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
Like the others wrote, Jerico... give us the rifle's serial number and, if available, its Lever Boss Code ("LBC")... and one or several of us will probably be able to give you the information you seek.

It is generally felt that the LBC is "THE" most accurate way to determine the year of manufacture of the Savage Model 99s.

However, without the LBC, determing the year of manufacture gets a bit tougher due to an inter-mingling of various series of the rifle's serial numbers in some years.

If you wish to know the rifle's value and/or model, we'll need to know its condition and features along with the LBC and serial number. Pictures always help too. smile


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.
Posted By: Jericho Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
It is a 300 of course, just found out it was made in 1959.
Another friend bought it already.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
59 huh?

Would be interesting if it was an early 99E. Was it checkered?
Posted By: lovemy99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
Jericho,

Is it an EG, R or F?

I have an R with a 59 LBC, 965,xxx .
Posted By: Jericho Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
Stocks were mismatched, it did have checkering. It was
an EG. I also saw an R today with mismatched stocks,
doesnt anyone leave these alone anymore?
Posted By: lovemy99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
What is making you say the stocks are mismatched? Just color?
Posted By: Jericho Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
Yes, the color.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
59 they were just finishing up before the Westfield move, bet you they were discolored because they were using up parts.
Posted By: lovemy99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/10
I would not discount them... I have a few late F's (by late I mean mid to late 50, or late pre-mils, I really don't ever talk about post-mils) that don't match great but share inspectors marks and/or the forearm has the serial in chalk on the back. I think the quality ball just got dropped in this time frame. If the general fit and finish looks okay, and the seller allows, I would check the inspectors marks and see if they match.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/10
I wish I'd have bought that 1959 E when I'd seen it, that was back some ten years ago. Haven't seen one since. Hard to find with the schnobel forearms.
Posted By: sqweeler Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/10
My Dad's F bought new in 1956 has a blondish colored forarm but as you can see everything is a match. http://photobucket.com/sqweeler i5
Were there LBCs of 'O' or 'Q'? What about 'W' and following? I've never seen any O, Q, or W, X, Y, or Z coded rifles. (And I always look.)

Are the post-70 serial numbers proprietary information? I've never seen them listed anywhere. (I'm talking about the S/Ns after they moved to the side of the receiver and were preceded with a letter (I think...still learning).

My dad has a pretty serious collection of 99s and is planning to start selling them off pretty soon. I need an education, as he wants me to do the selling. (He has about 40 - 50 99s, most of which are pre-WWII, but he has about seven that are newer.)
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/03/11
No 'O's or 'Q's, and the letters went up to X (1970). Though not all 1970 rifles have them, I don't think.

Serial numbers aren't public, and anybody is free to start gathering them. Not sure that anybody wants to publish their sets. The post-1970 numbers are all mixed up with other Savage rifles, so it's not 99 specific.

I'm sure you'll get lots of offers to help.. danged vultures. grin
Posted By: Pickney Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/15/11
Have bought a 99E in .308 from a friend. He got it from his father in law as a gift long ago. Ser# 10141xx. Had a Savage 3-8x scope on it with tip overs. Scope zoom is a little sloppy, so I changed it with a Weaver C4xW wide-view that I've always liked. He thought it was made around mid 60's. Does anyone have an idea. It has a 12M in a circle near the lever pivot. Thanks and I'm enjoying reading here as a newbie.
Also any recommendations on a good 99 gunsmith in upstate NY for any future work needs ? I live near Fort Drum, NY.
Thanks
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/15/11
The M makes it a 1961 gun.

Welcome to the campfire!!

You have an opportunity to launch a whole new addictive habit here...
Posted By: Pickney Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/15/11
Thanks, that was fast. I was in first grade then! :-)
Posted By: norm99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/16/11
Originally Posted by Pickney
Thanks, that was fast. I was in first grade then! :-)


WELCOME TO THE FORUM grin,looks like your in the first grade here as well grin
Posted By: cody27 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/16/11
Hey long time reader on the forum first time poster.

ive been told this is the best place to ask this question about putting a rough date on my 99F, ive googled and come up with very vague and varying answers from "made after 1891" to "1951 or older" and finally "1957" so i figure you guys got a better handle on this so ill let ya give it a go.

serial # 9508XX
LBC 17I

not %100 on the LBC as it was hard to make out

thanks
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/16/11
Late `57, early `58. There is a lot of overlap in the "I"&"J"s.
Posted By: cody27 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/16/11
thanks for the quick response, always wondered how old it was as i know its been in the family a damn long time so its nice to get a rough date on the gun.
Posted By: norm99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/11
welcome to the forum ,good old BC
norm
Hi Guys,
Can you help me date my .308 Savage 99C? I know, common question, but I've been to all the self help web sites, with no joy. Barrel indicates Model 99C series A and receiver serial number is C784903. I suspect fairly new, since blueing, barrel and wood look like it's been a safe queen. Appreciate any help. Course it has the clip, not rotary mag, factory tapped for scope, black plastic butt plate and grip cap. Hope that's suff info. Much obliged,
Lars
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/11
Your rifle will date to 1978.

Welcome to the forum!
Thanks Calhoun. Owe you a cup of campfire coffee! Won't bother to ask how you found that so fast. Just happy someone was reading the forum. Cheers,
Lars
In your opinion, how big and what kind of (if any) difference in quality exists between the pre and post 1961 Savage 99s?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/11
For hunting, or for collecting?

Many of the postmil 99's are perfectly good for hunting, though I'm not fond of many of the postmil features like impressed checkering, birchwood stocks, white line spacers, etc.

On the other hand, many of the premil 99's aren't ideal for hunting by today's standards, not having monte carlo stocks, d&t for scopes, tang safeties for left-handed shooters, or sling studs. But, they were all hand made and each piece hand fitted. Overall better quality than the postmils.

For collecting, there's no comparison. Premils are far more collectible than postmils.

Given a choice, I'll go with a premil rifle every time. Easy enough to find shooters that have been d&t'd and had sling studs added if you want those features.

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Not for collecting. If it proves accurate enough, the gun will go from safe queen to campfire tramp come next hunting season. Picked it up from an acquaintance, because the price was right, but would be excited if it'll hold a reasonable group at a hundred yards. When I bought it, I was going on the notion that Savage had a good rep for well made lever guns. Didn't realize that when they retooled, their quality took a hit. Guess I'll find out soon how big a hit. What have you found shooting pre and postmil models (either iron sights or scoped)?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/11
I shoot everything scoped, and I'd say a 99C in 308 should shoot fine. You probably won't get 1" groups at 100 yards with factory ammo, but 1.5" to 2.5" is likely. Which is plenty good enough for 99% of whitetail hunting.
And plenty good for Alaskan sheep too, but will have to be pretty sneaky to get within a hundred yards of those fellas. Copy and thanks for all your input. Cheers,
Lars
Posted By: JeffG Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/18/11
Are there any factory post-mil EG's? or are they all bubba delux stock switches
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/18/11
No EG's after 1960 or with a serial number higher than 1,000,000.
Seems like all us new members are hijacking this thread, so why not me?

My first Savage was actually a model 1907 .32 pistol I bought from an old boss about a decade ago. This past year I wanted to pick up a rifle to start shooting at the range with some friends, so naturally I thought "I wonder if Savage ever made a lever action rifle....." and found out about the 99.

A couple of weeks later I walked into a local retail store, and there on the used rack was a beat up 99E in .243 Win, serial number A903XXX. I couldn't whip out my credit card fast enough at the price on the tag. I refinished the wood, since from lurking here I figured I wasn't hurting the value of a late "E" by doing so, and it was seriously scratched up.

Here it is after the refinish:

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I've since scoped it with an old Weaver K4W (OK, I had bought a newer scope for it but it just didn't look right.) It's a really nice shooting rifle that I'm enjoying a lot.

Anyway, from scrounging through the posts from many of the forum regulars I was guessing this at very early 70's?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/19/11
Pretty darned good job on the refinish. It would be a 1971 rifle.
Thanks, it isn't high grade walnut but at least the grain of the birch is visible now. The original finish was opaque brown muck......
Posted By: knoxville Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/06/11
I have a 99A with the serial number 9994xx. It appears to have a o stamped on the side off the lever. It is also a tang safety with a steel counter on it. Any help would be great!
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/06/11
Can you find anything stamped on the front of the lever?

Sure theres not a letter in front of that serial number?
Posted By: knoxville Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/06/11
Don't see a letter on the front of the lever. The serial number does start with A.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/06/11
Your rifles serial number is A999xxx and was made early 1972.

This serial range is called the "A Series Serial" and began late 1968. It differs from the earlier serials in that what ever firearm came down the line got the next number. There is just one big serial range. Makes it easier to date a rifle but we have no idea as to how many of a model were produced in a given year.
Posted By: knoxville Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/06/11
Originally Posted by Rick99
Your rifles serial number is A999xxx and was made early 1972.

This serial range is called the "A Series Serial" and began late 1968. It differs from the earlier serials in that what ever firearm came down the line got the next number. There is just one big serial range. Makes it easier to date a rifle but we have no idea as to how many of a model were produced in a given year.


Thank you so much for your help Rick. My next step is to try and find a set of mounts for a Balfor A scope. Hopefully they made them that work with the tang safety. Thanks again for your help!

Joey
Posted By: climbrown Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/18/12
Hi everyone, I hope I'm not bothering anyone with another inquiry on another 99. I just inherited one from my uncle who got it from his granddad. I've seen on another site that the serial is stamped in 4 places, the receiver, the fore stock, the butt stock, and the butt plate. Well I have 2 different numbers each in two places and an H for an LBC. The numbers are 100 and 129257 (no letters in the serial number). I expect that the gun has been pieced together because the barrel seems newer (.30-30) but I'm not sure because the two stocks have different numbers but they look very similar. Here are some pictures to download or you can visit my blog mtnbikefiddler.blogspot.com to see them.

Thanks very much,

P.S. Why, at the beginning of this thread, were people told to put xx's on the last two digits of the serial?

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Posted By: lovemy99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/18/12
LBC is meaningless on a gun this early.

Need better and larger picture of the butt stock and the stamping to see what is going on... but not likely to be original...
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/18/12
Without seeing more pictures, it might be a factory replacement part. Our understanding is that they often didn't stamp the serial number on replacement stocks and buttplates.

Just a guess though. Even getting a letter from the Savage historian may not clear it up since work orders may not be available or found for repair work that was years later.

The lower rifle here is an 1899B from 1906 with correct forearm and buttstock/buttplate with just a code stamped on it. The buttplate is a 1920's style, so it's probably a later factory repair.

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Posted By: Recruit Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/19/12
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Without seeing more pictures, it might be a factory replacement part. Our understanding is that they often didn't stamp the serial number on replacement stocks and buttplates.

Just a guess though. Even getting a letter from the Savage historian may not clear it up since work orders may not be available or found for repair work that was years later.

The lower rifle here is an 1899B from 1906 with correct forearm and buttstock/buttplate with just a code stamped on it. The buttplate is a 1920's style, so it's probably a later factory repair.

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Calhoun; was the figured wood common on the 1899B; or any model for that matter?

The stock on your 1906 is pure beauty!
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/19/12
I'd like to know whats up with the boat cleat and bobber?

You that messed up that you can't even leave your guns at home when you go fishing?
Joe,
Have you seen JAWS???....... grin
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/19/12
Recruit, no the figured buttstock isn't normal. Since it's a factory replacement, I wonder if the customer didn't pay a bit more for a nicer piece of wood, or if the customer wasn't so ticked off that Savage put it on to shut him up. I knew the buttstock wasn't original when I bought it, but the nice wood made me buy it anyway.

Joe, I am messed up.. but the boat was outside when I wanted pictures so it became the platform of choice. Was used more than once for that purpose..

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Posted By: knoxville Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/26/13
Rick I have one more for you, serial number 9528##. It is a 308. Any help on manufacturing date would help. Thanks
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/26/13
Rory, is that last pic of a mag fed 99C a Llama?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/26/13
No, it's a later 99C. The Llama's had hooded front sights, but otherwise looked pretty much identical to these.

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Posted By: redguy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/29/13
Newbie here, I just got a 99A with a serial number D4113XX, could anybody help me with the year?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/29/13
Welcome to the campfire, redguy! Looks like your rifle is an early 1980 rifle.
Posted By: redguy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/30/13
I thought that the newer ones had removable magazines,this one has the rotary.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/30/13
The 99C and 99CD had clips, other models like the 99A, 99E, Brush Gun and others still had the rotary magazines.
Posted By: Ron_T Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/30/13
Originally Posted by knoxville
Rick I have one more for you, serial number 9528##. It is a 308. Any help on manufacturing date would help. Thanks


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I can help you, your rifle was manufactured in 1958 and should have a Lever Boss Code of "J".

FYI, the Lever Boss Code ("LBC") is the best way to determine the age of the Model 99's. While nothing is "for sure" with Model 99 production, the Model 99s manufactured from 1949 to 1971 have what is called "Lever Boss Codes" (�LBC�) indicating the year of final inspection... but NOT ALWAYS the year the rifle was shipped from the factory.

Using the alphabetic letters beginning with "A" representing 1949, the letters were advance as each year passed. And so, if your Model 99's LBC is "B", your rifle was probably made in 1950. If your LBC is "C", it was made in 1951... and so on and so on� all the way to the letter "Y" which represents the year 1971.

Due to their similarity, the letters "O" and "Q" were NOT used in the LBC system.

NOW... where do you find this "LBC"??? Easy... look on the front of the lever boss... that lower extension of the receiver into which the lever fits and rotates. On the FRONT of that lever boss, you can probably see a VERY FAINT OVAL... or you may not be able to see the ENTIRE oval due to it's being stamped very lightly.

But you should be able to see PART of the oval.. and inside that oval, you will probably see a NUMBER (the inspector's number) followed by a LETTER (the letter indicating the year of final inspection)... OR... you may only be able to determine PART of the oval, PART of the Inspector's number and PART of the letter. For best results, use a magnifying glass.

Since the oval is an oblong circle, the ends of the oval may look like a lightly-stamped "C" or a backwards "C"... but the LBC's letters and numbers are somewhat smaller than the ends of the oval... obviously... since they fit INSIDE the oval, eh? grin


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/13
I have been following this thread for a few months and I finally bought a used Model 99. I was wondering if you could provide some information on the year of manufacture?
Model 99C stamped on top of receiver
Serial Number on bottom of receiver in front of lever: 1181xxx
Another set of numbers on left side of receiver:AO572xx
LBC is a "V"
Caliber: .308 Win
Detachable Magazine
Tang Safety
Steel Butt Plate
Plastic Pistol Grip Cap
Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/13
Well, according to the LBC and the 1181xxx serial number, you have a model 99C made in 1968.

According to the A0572xx, it would date to early 1969.

The 1181xxx serial number is very near the end of 1968, so it looks like your rifle somehow either went back for work or got laid aside and finished a couple months later? Not sure we've ever seen one that had two different serial numbers stamped on the outside. Gotta drive the FFL's nuts when they go to log it.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/13
The serial on the bottom would have been stamped after the receiver was made and before assembly. The new "Series A" serial on the side was added after the rifle was completed. As this rifle was started late 1968 and completed early 1969 it has ended with two serials. The one on the side would be the correct number to use. Since it has the LBC it might have been an error in double serial numbering it. I wonder if the 1181xxx serial is logged as a completed rifle?

This is the first I've seen stamped with two serials. I wonder how many more were made like this? This is what keeps the subject interesting. Always something new. smile
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/08/13
Calhoun and Rick99
Thank you for the information. I was confused about the two sets of numbers.
In 1966 my wife bought me a 99C for our first Christmas together.
I was in the Army in Colorado and used that rifle to hunt deer and prairie dogs. When we moved back to Michigan, I traded that rifle in on a Remington 1100. I always regretted getting rid of that rifle. Even more so after my wife passed away. It took me about 3 yrs to find another 99C that was not all beat up. I am happy to find out that this rifle is from approximately the same era.
Again, thank you for the information.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/15/13
I have acquired another Model 99 and hope that someone will be able to assist me in determining the Date of Manufacture.
Caliber: 300 Savage
LBC: 4, I have studied this with magnifying glasses and it is definitely a 4. There is no circle around the stamping.
Barrel length:24 inches
Brass Rotor
SN:5036**
Thanking you in advance for your help
thom
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/15/13
The 4 isn't a date code, just an inspection stamp. Your rifle will date to 1948, which is one year prior to the start of the lever date codes.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/13
Calhoun,
Thank you for providing the information. I really appreciate your taking time to help.
Thom
Posted By: Rups63 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/13
I have a Savage 99 serial number 521883. I believe it to be manufactured in 1948-49? There is no lever date code on the rifle that I can see. I was curious, however, when the brass rotor changed to something else. The rotor in my 99 is not brass.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/13
After the War brass was in short supply so several guns were built with steel rotors. They are usually case colored as well.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/13
Looks like it should date to around the end of 1949, maybe beginning of 1950. Look on the front of the lever and above the serial number for an oval stamp with 1 or 2 numbers followed by a letter. If the letter is an A, then 1949, if it's a B then it's 1950.

Don't have my notes with me, but think that's maybe a bit early for case colored rotor? Maybe not. There are some plain steel ones that pop up after the war, though.
Posted By: Rups63 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/13
Like I said, no lever code is on the rifle. The rotor does not appear to be case colored, but rather plain colored steel. Interesting variation, the rotor being steel. Thanks!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/13
Oops, yeah, no date code. Not always a dependable thing.

There are some very early 1899's in the first couple years that seem to pop up with silver colored rotors, don't know if they are steel or some type of pot metal. Then we have some that show up after WWII, then we have a fairly big batch of steel ones that are case colored in the early 50's.
Posted By: 99hunter Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/17/13
Two of my 99s have the steel rotor, one is a 99EG and the other is a 99R. They both have the same LBC which is "D"
Posted By: Rups63 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/17/13
How do I know what model my savage is, i.e. EG or F?
Posted By: 99hunter Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/17/13
The 99F is marked on the right side of the barrel, they were introduced in 1955 the EG was made from 1935 to 1960 and has the schnoble tip forearm.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/17/13
Rups63, your rifle will be either a 99EG or a model 99R, they were the only models made at that time. A 99EG will have a thin forearm with a Schnabel tip, the 99R will have a fat and wide forearm with a rounded tip.
Posted By: Rups63 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/17/13
EG it is! Thanks!
Hello, just got my Granddaughter her first hunting rifle (that makes 3 generations of us with a 99 as first hunter).

300 Sav, 21" bbl, rounded for end, lever safety, fore end has a "W' or 'M' pattern checkering, round counter (looks like brass, have yet to confirm it is not just some varnish or dried oil).

Has scope screw holes, front bead site, filler in the rear site slot (raised bbl ring for this), has a tang mounted Redfield peep, smooth finished bolt.

Unfortunately, it has also been reblued, including the lever (sad). Looks good though, the refinisher shouldn't have used shiny finish clear coat. Too thick as it takes all the grip out of the checkering.

That made it easy to cut 2" off the stock and mount a Limbsaver/Simms butt pad. Left her with ~12.5-13" LOP (need to remeasure it).

Shot 5 rounds through it. @ 25 yds got ~1.25" group from prone. Didn't get back to shooting it again this trip, more in the future. Shooting Win 150 gr (of the Fed/Win/Hornady ballistics, Win is the worst). Grand daughter sot one round said it hurt. She doesn't know she is getting it for Christmas. I took a picture of her with it. That will be in the cleaning kit she gets under the tree. She's a bright girl and will have figured it out.

I will see what it takes to have it rechambered. Make it the same as Mom's tang safety A.

Serial: 7716xx; lever code 236.

Thanks!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/20/13
That would be a Savage 99F, barrel should actually be 22". Nice featherweight.

Don't rechamber it, the internals are too short to handle a 308 length chamber. The internals changed starting with serial number 900,000. You're pretty much stuck with 300.

If you reload, try any medium load with a 150gr or 180gr bullet and it should kick a lot less than the factory 150's. Still kills deer just as dead, too.

Good job!
Thanks!

I figured that the Hornady would be the 'off the shelf' go to round (if it shoots it well). And she can shoot it well! Priorities....

She will not hunt with it this fall, but next fall. Plus, a birthday scope will come her way.

I may have to look into a 3 lever case hardening deal. It's just such a nice detail on these rifles -- sets the tone (yes, pun intended).

I measured the bbl at the muzzle end of the receiver ring -- an it is a fraction over 21", so if 22" includes the breach end, it would be ~22". Any idea of year(s)?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/20/13
Rifle should date to 1955, that lever code of 236 is almost surely 23G. Barrel length does count as the entire length, so 21" to the receiver is about right.

Got a gentleman here on the campfire who case colors levers, give him a bit and he'll probably speak up. It does add class to the rifle.
Always fun around the campfire!
Posted By: Skidrow Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/21/13
You can load the .300 Sav down to 30-30ish or so and save her a bit of trauma. Kills deer just as dead and as she gets older you can up grade the load as time goes by until you're back to .300 Sav. The hurt from the kick is one of the big reasons a lot of kids get turned off from hunting. Getting hurt ain't fun no matter what else you do to make it fun. Reduce the load and she'll thank you for it. wink
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/21/13
What he said.
I have a 99M with SN#10143XX. It is a 300 Savage with Monte Carlo stock. Rotary magazine. Tang mounted safety.
Can you tell me when it was made?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/28/13
Brandon, your rifle will date to late 1960 or early 1961, and sounds like a model 99DL to me because of the monte carlo stock. Take a look at the front of the lever and see if you can find an oval stamp with 1 or 2 numbers followed by a letter inside of it. The letter L would be 1960, M would be 1961.
I have a 99E which has checkering and the Monte Carlo stock. The serial number is E0180XX with the rotary magazine. I can find nothing on the front of the lever. Safety is on the lever. what can you tell me about it?
The caliber is 300 savage and the lever is case harden.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/28/13
Seabeesbob, your rifle was made in the fall of 1982. The date stamped ended around 1970, so you won't find that oval stamp. And the 99C and 99E both got monte carlo stocks around 1981.
Posted By: Rob1000 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/31/13
Hi guys, I need help. I inherited a mod. 99 ser.#9421xx I can not figure out a letter designation for this rifle. it is in .308 has checkering on pistol grip and fore end and a heavy schnable and a steel shotgun style butt plate. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/31/13
EG.
Posted By: big_jimmy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/27/13
I thought I'd dredge this up and add my 99f info.

1960 99f (LBC "L")
Serial number 1010xxx
.308

Sweet trigger pull per usual.

Tang safety, brass rotary mag, jeweled bolt, gold trigger, folding rear sight ahead of receiver.


Chicopee, Mass


Some thoughts on the safety:
I've read some think the tang safety to be poorly made, but I found it to be otherwise-well made/designed and works great. I don't think its inferior in any way to the lever safety.

On post-mil serial #'s:
I am glad I went back for a second look on this rifle which I almost disregarded because of the tang safety and post mil serial#.
I know collectors use 1 mil as a convenient benchmark. However, clearly there are some post-mil 99's that were made that were hand fitted and carry the same quality as the pre-mils. Maybe not a lot of them and how long that went on I have no idea. But this 1960 99f, anyway, is clearly an example of a hand fitted gun.

However, the fore stock did not match the rest of the rifles inspection stamps, which are also found on the hidden area on the receivers left side, and the butt stock and butt plate. These stamps should all be the same.

For example my 99f has these matching stamps: B, O, S, 5 and F, in sequence, though somewhat crammed and jumbled into the space available.

Anyway, hope it helps.

Jimmy
Posted By: Scott62 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/02/14
Old thread, but why not ? My serial # is A0472XX and the LBC ( a small circle at the lever pivot point) is M9.
Any Idea what year ? Thanks
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/02/14
Early A series serial number, most likely 1969.
Posted By: Scott62 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/02/14
Ok, Thanks a lot.
Bought a used, checkered 99 300 with my paper route money in 1971. S/N 6872XX. Got my first blacktail that same year. Can anyone tell me more info?
Posted By: Ron_T Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/11/14
Probably made in either 1953 or 1954... depending on the Lever Boss Code ("LBCS")... here's an excerpt from my reocrds:


E= 1953: 6664XX (19E), 694,7XX(19E) 699XXX(19E), 709xxx(?3E)-my rifle, 7237xx(20E) 724xxx(20E), 8351xx(?0E),

F= 1954: 686489(19F), 695xxx(19F), 704960(13F), 7184xx, 727303(13F), 747330(14F), 751488(?3F),7567xx(5F), 835192-lettered by John T.


Savage began using what we call the Lever Boss Code ("LBC") in 1949. The LBC begins with a number (the inspector's number) followed by a letter which indicated the year of manufacture. In 1949, the letter used was "A". In 1950, they went to "B", in 1951 to "C", in 1952 to "D" and so on to the letter "Y" in 1971. The letters "O" and "Q" were skipped due to their similarity.

Apparently... and for unknown reasons, some rifles were pulled off the assembly line and set aside. Then, later, they were put back on the line and the manufacturing process was finished. This created a situation wherein the rifle's serial number may not accurately ascertain the year of manufacture for SURE. Thus, we can fall back on the Lever Boss Code to determine the year of manufacture if the rifle has one.

All the Model 99s (to the best of my knowledge) manufactured from 1949 through 1971 (inclusive) had Lever Boss Codes inside a small, lightly embossed OVAL located on the lower front side of the receiver opposite and just above where the lever rotates. Often, the OVAL in which the LBC is stamped and the LBC itself are so lightly impressed that it requires a magnifying glass to see them... and then, some of the OVAL and/or the LBC may be too lightly stamped to be fully determined.

So if your rifle's LBC is an "E", it was made in 1953. If it's a "F", then it was made in 1954.

These were some of the finest Model 99's ever made... a real "winner"! smile


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.


Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/12/14
It will be either a 99EG with a thin forearm and schnabel tip, or a model 99R with a fat and wide forearm with a rounded end. Those were the only 2 models made at that time.
Thank you, gentlemen. Given the faintness of the LBC and my present ocular capacities, I had to use a loop to cypher what it says. "19F" is what it appears to be. Based on what Calhoun indicated, mine's a 99EG with the thin/schnabel forearm.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/14
What year of manufacture? SN is A2344**. 99M tang safety. Impressed checkering. Factory D&T. 22" barrel, gold trigger. Aluminum butt plate.
Thanks for the help.
Hello, I am new to the forum. I just received a Savage 99A .308 from my father. It looks in good condition. It has a straight butt stock, no pistol grip. It also has a tang safety. It does not have any LBC code that I can see. The serial number is D1719XX.

Any help or advice in finding the year of manufacture would be appreciated!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/23/14
Welcome to the campfire, timber! Your rifle was mfr'd in late summer, 1979. The date codes stopped about 9 years earlier.
I would like to talk to someone that is pretty nifty on the 99 my number is 281-806-9441. I have a 250-3000 and it has a low number serial and it also has a q or it might be a. On the front of the lever
Great tread. I have only one Savage 99C in .243 s/n B567xxx. Like to know the year it was made. I can not believe how accurate this rifle is . Blue box Federal ammo shot a little less than a inch at 100 yards. I think it shoots as well as my Remington heavy barrel varmint rifle. Thank you
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/31/14
Uh oh, he's discovered our secret! Now the whole world will know!!!!! grin grin
Savages can be wonderfully accurate can't they?
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/31/14
Originally Posted by Patrick_James
Like to know the year it was made.


First half of 1974 I believe.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/31/14
Originally Posted by Chappy410
What year of manufacture? SN is A2344**. 99M tang safety. Impressed checkering. Factory D&T. 22" barrel, gold trigger. Aluminum butt plate.
Thanks for the help.


I don't think you got an answer... mid-1969. smile
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/31/14
Originally Posted by Rick99
Originally Posted by Chappy410
What year of manufacture? SN is A2344**. 99M tang safety. Impressed checkering. Factory D&T. 22" barrel, gold trigger. Aluminum butt plate.
Thanks for the help.


I don't think you got an answer... mid-1969. smile


Thank you for the information Rick99
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/31/14
Have another 99 I would like to know date of manufacture.
22 inch barrel
tang safety
99M
cut checkering
Factory D&T
gold trigger
Aluminum butt plate
SN 10538xx
Thanks for help
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/01/14
Choppy, it's a late 1962 or early 1963. Check the date code to see if it's a N or a P. Also, it's a 99DL.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/01/14
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Choppy, it's a late 1962 or early 1963. Check the date code to see if it's a N or a P. Also, it's a 99DL.


Thanks
LBC is an N.

thom
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/01/14
Thanks for the letter, helps narrow down the end of year.
Posted By: norm99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/01/14
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Thanks for the letter, helps narrow down the end of year.


seeing as we're working numbers grin
B118936
B270122
C141509
C291272

thanks fills some holes

norm
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/01/14
B118936 - mid `72
B270122 - mid `73
C141509 - 1st half `76
C291272 - late `76
smile
Posted By: norm99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/01/14
thanks Rick

norm
Posted By: Wolfgang Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
I am looking for some info about my Dad�s model 99 in 300 Savage ser# 5795xx He said it was a model 99E. It has a brass counter and brass magazine rooter. In the circle on the lever boss is 15B or I5B. Thank you for your help

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Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
"B" is 1950, 99EG. You're going to need some more scope on that to wring out the accuracy that Savage is capable of. wink wink
Posted By: Wolfgang Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
Originally Posted by Fireball2
"B" is 1950, 99EG. You're going to need some more scope on that to wring out the accuracy that Savage is capable of. wink wink


Thanks for the info.
Would it be correct to call it a 99E? Dad bought it new in 1950 in Tucumcari New Mexico and he called it an E. He has taken many a Prong Horn (Antelope) and Coyotes with it.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
No, it's not an E. The earlier E was a sweet rifle, very desirable, and the later E was an economy model with cost cutting measures enacted in it's production. Yours was Savage's bread and butter gun in 300.
BUT, that scope is outrageous I gotta say!! Most guys opt for a little Leupold 2-7 or 1.75-6, with many going the route of classic setups using Stith mounts and vintage glass. That rifle NEEDS a properly scaled optic, or none at all to be fully appreciated.
Enjoy your weapon and please feel welcome.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
Wolfgang, the 99EG was introduced in 1935 as an uncheckered model. Around 1938 they started checkering the stock and the model continued to be produced in high numbers until 1959. The sling studs on your rifle were added after it left the factory, and it was drilled and tapped for the scope after it left the factory.

Definitely an interesting setup! What's that scope?

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: Wolfgang Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Wolfgang, the 99EG was introduced in 1935 as an uncheckered model. Around 1938 they started checkering the stock and the model continued to be produced in high numbers until 1959. The sling studs on your rifle were added after it left the factory, and it was drilled and tapped for the scope after it left the factory.

Definitely an interesting setup! What's that scope?

Welcome to the campfire!



Thanks for the welcome.
The scope is a cheapie, a Barska 6-24x60ir. It�s what he put on it sometime early 2010 just before he passed away in Jan. 2011. We had planned on making a Deer hunt that year.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/03/14
Wouldn't look so mental if you took the sun shade off it.
Posted By: race8dad Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
ive got an old 250-3000. #3657xx stamped on the gun and cab1411289 engraved on the lever. the stamped letters in the oval on the side are either sf or sp. any help on the year? thanks
Posted By: TomA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
1937
Posted By: race8dad Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
thank you! is it normal to have numbers engraved not stamped?
Posted By: TomA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
Not normal to have any numbers or letters stamped or engraved on the lever. Lever should be unmarked.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
Yeah, don't know what the numbers mean on the lever. Are they just scratched on, or nicely engraved? Pics would be great.
Posted By: LIV2HUNT Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
What's the date of birth of # 72,5XX ?

Thanks all
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
1906.
Posted By: LIV2HUNT Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/06/14
Thanks
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/11/14
I received my 99CD from 260RemGuy today. Beautiful rifle.
I would like to know date of manufacture.
99CD
22" barrel
308 Win
SN:C319058
Thanks for the help
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/11/14
Very late 1976.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/11/14
Thanks for the information Calhoun
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
Have another one I would like some information on. I believe it is an 99R but not sure. I am going to try and upload a photo.
It should arrive Monday from out west.
250-3000
22 inch barrel
SN:5742xx
LBC: 24C
I believe the sling swivels are after market.
Any information would be appreciated. Thanks for the help.

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Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
You almost bid against me on that one... grin
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
Originally Posted by Fireball2
You almost bid against me on that one... grin


FB
I didn't bid on it.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
Are you sure on the barrel length? I'd expect 24" at that SN.

The original sling eyes have been replaced but that can be reversed.

Looks pretty nice and Rs usually shoot very well!
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
Originally Posted by Chappy410
Originally Posted by Fireball2
You almost bid against me on that one... grin


FB
I didn't bid on it.


Hmmm.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Chappy410
Originally Posted by Fireball2
You almost bid against me on that one... grin


FB
I didn't bid on it.


Hmmm.


I bought it after the auction had ended. I have bought quite a bit of stuff from Jim over the last few years.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/14
Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Are you sure on the barrel length? I'd expect 24" at that SN.

The original sling eyes have been replaced but that can be reversed.

Looks pretty nice and Rs usually shoot very well!


Mike,
It could be 24", not sure. The gun is scheduled to arrive at my dealer's on Tuesday. I will let you know once I pick it up. I just wanted to verify if it was a 99R. From info I looked up in Murray's book, I am thinking it is.
Posted By: Bbear Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/14/14
Trying to determine the age on mine.

243 with drop mag
Serial # 11147xx
21" bbl
LBC code 29T

Thinking of rebarreling to a 358 due to loaning it out to the wrong 'friend'.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/14/14
1966, Bbear.
Posted By: Bbear Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/14/14
Thanks. My Dad gave that one to me as my 'first' rifle in 1970 AFTER I had hunted with it all year. He'd borrowed it from a friend for me to use.

Thanks again for the info!
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/16/14
Originally Posted by Chappy410
I have acquired another Model 99 and hope that someone will be able to assist me in determining the Date of Manufacture.
Caliber: 300 Savage
LBC: 4, I have studied this with magnifying glasses and it is definitely a 4. There is no circle around the stamping.
Barrel length:24 inches
Brass Rotor
SN:5036**
Thanking you in advance for your help
thom

Would that make this an EG? Thanks for the help.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/17/14
Nothing there to say whether it's an EG or an R. Thin, schnabel tip on the forearm makes it an EG, fat and wide forearm with rounded end would be an R. Only two models made at that time.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/17/14
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Nothing there to say whether it's an EG or an R. Thin, schnabel tip on the forearm makes it an EG, fat and wide forearm with rounded end would be an R. Only two models made at that time.


Sorry I forgot to put that in the original request. It does have the schnable tip forearm. Thanks Rory for providing the information.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/19/14
Would like to know the year of manufacture of a 99 C .243 Win
22 inch barrel, impressed checkering, Serial Number A2892xx. No LBC
Thanks for the information.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/19/14
Fall of 1969.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/19/14
Thanks Rory
Posted By: Bbear Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/20/14
I was talking w/ a friend regarding my 99 and he had one passed to him from his Dad. 30/30 w/ a 410 barrel. Somewhere along the line, the rifle was nickel plated.
He was wondering the production date and if Savage ever offered nickel plated rifles. Serial # is: 1357xx

Pic.

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Posted By: TomA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/20/14
I believe they did offer plating and it dates to 1913.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/20/14
Originally Posted by TomA
I believe they did offer plating and it dates to 1913.


Only on the receivers and buttplates, never on the barrels.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/20/14
Yeah.. they offered nickel/silver/gold, but that's definitely not factory. Somebody liked shiny things. grin

Looks like a model 1899H, except that barrel with a front sight ramp doesn't date to 1913 unless it's an aftermarket ramp.

Posted By: Texgunner Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/21/14
I've bought a couple 99s in the past two weeks. Both are 99E models and one is .308 and the other is .243. The .308 has a LBC of 23T in the oval and the serial is 11248XX. I believe the LBC denotes a 1966 manufacture. But, the LBC on the .243 is very worn and very hard to read. It appears to be a "1" in front of well, that's the rub. I just can't positively make it out.

At first look through my jeweler's loupe, it looked like a N(1962), but the serial is higher than the '66, 11371XX. It also could be a "U" if you squint just right, lol. That would indicate 1967, right? I was told by the previous owner that he thought his father-in-law had bought it in the mid to late 60s. This .243 wears a Lyman All-American 4X Perma Center scope. It also looks like the oval is oriented differently, with the '66 oval laid out vertical up the lever boss while the other seems to go horizontally across the lever boss. Is that possible? Thanks for your help with this.
Gary
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/21/14
Yep, should be 1966 and 1967 rifles by the serial numbers. The date stamps were done by hand, so not unusual to see lightly struck or off center types of strikes.
It would be darned nice if it warmed up a bit so I can get out to the range and shoot my 99s frown
Posted By: Texgunner Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/21/14
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Yep, should be 1966 and 1967 rifles by the serial numbers. The date stamps were done by hand, so not unusual to see lightly struck or off center types of strikes.


Thanks for the confirmation! You guys are good. grin
Gary
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/22/14
Originally Posted by Penobscot_99
It would be darned nice if it warmed up a bit so I can get out to the range and shoot my 99s frown


Those are my exact thoughts. Rain yesterday on top of 18-20" of snow. Now all we have is ice. Snow should be melted by June hopefully.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/16/14
A friend inherited a 99R from his uncle. He wanted some help figuring out the date of manufacture.
The LBC is very faint and neither of us are able to make out what it reads.
The SN is 7003xx. Could someone give approximate date of manufacture?
Thanks for help.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/16/14
That serial number range spans the end of 1953 and the beginning of 1954. Personally I'd say 1953.
Posted By: Chappy410 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/16/14
Thanks Rory. I'll let him know.
Posted By: HJK Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/14
Just purchased a Savage 99F in .308 caliber with serial number 10474XX - cannot read the embossed stamp on the front of the lever tang. Mfg'd by Savage Arms Corporation, Westfield Mass. Cut checkering in an "M" pattern on the forestock and in a kind of Nike "swoosh" above the lever. Gold trigger, safety on top behind chamber. Would like to know date of manufacture. Thanks for any help.
Posted By: HJK Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/14
I finally was able to make out the LBC - I believe it to be 12N, which would make this gun 1962, I believe. Beautiful gun, shoots well, rotary mag.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/14
The serial number points to it being mfr'd in 1962 as well, so you figured it out.

Welcome to the campfire! If this is your first Savage 99, you might want to stop now. They tend to breed...
Posted By: HJK Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/07/14
Yeah, I may be infected. Had been shooting a Ruger Mk 77 .308 with a bull barrel, and love that gun as well, but there is something about the Savage 99 that is just intriguing My wife (a non-shooter) even commented on how "pretty" it was. Thanks for the welcome. Looks like a lot of good knowledge and sharing here.
OK, I pulled out each of my prefixed serial number 99s and would like to know the year on each...looks like this is the place to ask.

A884392 99E 308 Win
C194669 99 358 Brush Gun
C194678 99CD 308 Win
C358206 99C 22-250 Rem
C543448 99 358 Brush Gun
C575278 99C 22-250 Rem
D299342 99C 243 Win
D681898 99CD 7mm-08 Rem
D744830 99A 375 Win

All help is appreciated!
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/19/14
A884392 99E 308 Win 1971
C194669 99 358 Brush Gun 1976
C194678 99CD 308 Win 1976
C358206 99C 22-250 Rem 1977 (this is too early for a 22-250)
C543448 99 358 Brush Gun 1977
C575278 99C 22-250 Rem 1977
D299342 99C 243 Win 1980
D681898 99CD 7mm-08 Rem 1981 (probably a 99C. With cheek piece would be a CD. With just the Monte carlo would be a C.)
D744830 99A 375 Win 1981
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/20/14
Whoever has # 728243 has a special one.
Posted By: dustycuss Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/20/14
Came across this thread while trying to find info about a Savage 99 ser # 2243xx in 303. Can anyone help with the date of birth?
The info I have found says 1918, another says 1920. One source says it should have a 22 or 24" barrel. This has a 26.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/20/14
Dusty, it should date to 1920. Barrel length varies by model, so yours sounds like a model 99A if the forearm is attached with a screw, or a model 99B if it's attached with a latch (it would be a takedown). This serial number range is a bit disputed, some would call it a model 1899A rather than 99A or 99B. Physically they are the same, so really call it whatever you like. grin
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/22/14
7-2-8-2-4-3
S-A-V-A-G-E

cool
Originally Posted by Rick99
A884392 99E 308 Win 1971
-snip-
C358206 99C 22-250 Rem 1977 (this is too early for a 22-250)
-snip-
D681898 99CD 7mm-08 Rem 1981 (probably a 99C. With cheek piece would be a CD. With just the Monte carlo would be a C.)
-snip-


You are right about the 7mm-08. It is a C with a Monte Carlo stock.

The 22-250, by definition, can't have been made earlier than it was made. So C358xxx isn't too early after all.


Attached picture 99c 22-250 sn small..jpg
Attached picture 99c 22-250 lt side small.jpg
Attached picture 99c 22-250 cal mark small.jpg
Posted By: jbmi Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Just found this post, maybe you can help me also.
Model 99R, 358, SN 922xxx, lever code 6H
Thanks
Posted By: 1899sav Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Originally Posted by Fireball2
7-2-8-2-4-3
S-A-V-A-G-E

cool




Well Not FAR OFF grin
SAVAGI
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Not on my phone amigo.
abc's and 1 2 3's confuse him.................. wink
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Originally Posted by Longbeardking
abc's and 1 2 3's confuse him.................. wink


I resemble that statement myself. smile
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Originally Posted by jbmi
Just found this post, maybe you can help me also.
Model 99R, 358, SN 922xxx, lever code 6H
Thanks


Holy crud... that's a sweetheart of a rifle. 6H is 1956.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Should add a funny story-

My wife cannot drive a stick shift. For a while she could not get through her head that you start in 1st, not 5th gear.

It would be funny I mean, if it weren't so hard on the clutch. Bless her heart, she's very smart, but there is a wire disconnected on the sequence of shifting a vehicle.

We all have our quirks. Me, I'm a lever action guy. laugh laugh
Posted By: 99guy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Originally Posted by Fireball2
7-2-8-2-4-3
S-A-V-A-G-E

cool


How about:

8675309-e-nine

cool

Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/23/14
Your .22-250 serial is good. My error. blush
Posted By: Bjswift Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/30/14
Good day folks,

I have a 99E, series A, 308, no Lever Code. Serial# C1313xx.

Can you give me the year of manufacter please..

Thanks
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/30/14
Spring of 1976. Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: IdahoNP Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/03/15
Hey guys. I have a nice shooting 99E. Serial# calculators give me some odd answers, but you really seem to know your stuff here. There is no lever boss, unfortunately. The serial number is 5311XX. The prefix is A.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=965532690132118&l=80e57cc14d

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=965532276798826&l=0ff15e8f07

Thanks!

Jon
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/03/15
The A is not a prefix, it's part of the SN. The gun was built mid 1970.
Posted By: IdahoNP Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/05/15
Thank you!
Posted By: ncgary Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/05/15
I have a 99eg 250 which I can,t read the full boss code. It is 20 and a very faint vertical line. The serial# is 7092XX. Thanks
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/05/15
The serial would make it a 1953 production and the LBC would be 20E ( a little reverse engineering :))
Posted By: ncgary Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/05/15
Thank you, same year as my 300 sav 99R. made 9 yrs after I was born.
Posted By: TheGunnut Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/08/15
Hello, I have a good shooting 99F Series A. Serial# calculators give me some weird answers. I could use some help figuring out when it was made. The serial # is C0100xx
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/08/15
TheGunnet, those calculators are only good for pre-1950 rifles usually. Yours dates to the fall of 1975.
Posted By: TheGunnut Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/08/15
Thanks for the help and quick response.
Posted By: Rupe174 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/19/15
Anybody here anymore?

I inherited a 99 from my grandfather. Shot a deer with it that first year, cleaned it and put it in my safe. My 13 year old son is just coming into the hunting scene and he is infatuated with this rifle. Can you please let me know what year is what manufactured and steer me to any information explaning the 99E or 99F, so He and I can learn about grampa's gun together?

The serial number is 4299XX.

Thank you!
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
Won't be an E or an F, more than likely an EG but could be an R.

Does it have a double grove on the end of the forearm or does it have a Schnabel tipped forearm?
Posted By: Rupe174 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
Mad Dog,

Good question! This is where I need the education about Grandpa's rifle. I really have no idea but want to learn about these intricacies. I'm new here also so I'd like to post a picture of it....I need to figure out how!
Posted By: Rupe174 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
Here are a few pix of Grandpa's gun...I hope they are attached!

I found this web site, http://www.savage99.com/savage99_dates.htm, which actually made me more confused. It gave me two different dates of manufacture, 1946 or 1918 according to American Rifleman.

Then it said the Lever Boss code of C, gives me a date of 1951.
Is that C in my pictures, the lever boss?



Description: Grandpa's 99
Attached picture savage 99 a.jpg

Description: Other side
Attached picture savage 99 b.jpg

Description: forearm
Attached picture savage 99 c.jpg

Description: I found this C in front of the lever?
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Posted By: Rupe174 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
After a little more research, this may help with the manufacture date.

The 300 Savage has the Schnoble Forearm with checkering, Brass rotary magazine and counter and the safety is positioned on the lever.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
The first number you got of 1946 is the one you want. The lever boss code system didn't start until 1949, so the c is probably an inspectors mark. The LBC system works like this: 1949 "A", 1950 "B", 1951 "C", no "O" or "Q" because they look too much alike, Joe.
Posted By: cmhjohn Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
Best advice for you is to buy a copy of Doug Murrays book "The Ninety-Nine". Search ebay, or see mailing address at front of this forum, under miscellaneous good info. Probably cost you $30. or less. Good luck and welcome to the forum.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
It's a model 99EG.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/20/15
Made in 1945, I've got one very close to that serial number and letter showed 1945.
Posted By: Rupe174 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/22/15
Thank you for the info!

My son got to take it deer hunting this weekend.
He would have got one if he'd remembered to chamber one!

Regardless he loves it and is so excited to find out when it was made. I'll order my book tonight!

Thanx.
Can you put a date on rifle 9355xx please? 99F with tough to read LBC.
Thanks,
Smiley
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/24/15
Probably 1957. LBC should be I. A letter from JTC will say when it was shipped.
Posted By: MTCherub Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Can anyone help me better identify and put a date to a 300 my dad gave to me a a child? S/N is 7120XX and the LBC code is not very readable - it is either "2C" or "20?"
Posted By: Plab Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
LBC should be 3 characters. i.e. 21C - ??
some one here can date it via. the ser#

plab
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
The date code can be 2 or 3 characters - 1 or 2 numbers followed by a letter. That serial number should date to 1953, so your stamp was probably 20E and the E just wasn't struck heavily enough.

And if it has a schnable tip on the forearm it will be a 99EG, if it has a fat and wide forearm with rounded end then it will be a model 99R.

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: MTCherub Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Thanks - the last digit for the LBC is not visible.
I've tried to upload a couple pictures of the rifle

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Yep, 99EG. The recoil pad was added later as was the sling stud. If you can see a Savage Model 99 stamp on the receiver to the left of the front scope base then it was d&t for scope bases at the factory. If you can't see it, then it was d&t later.

Great hunting rifles.
Posted By: MTCherub Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Thanks again - 1953 would make sense as my dad initially bought it for my mother when they got married - around that time. It does have the schnabel tip so is a 99EG.

Is there any way to get an idea of value range for it?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Originally Posted by MTCherub
Is there any way to get an idea of value range for it?

Value for a rifle your dad gave you when you were a kid?

Priceless.


Market value won't be high. There were a LOT of 99EG's in 300 Savage, and the recoil pad and sling modifications remove any collector interest. Depending on your location... $350 to $450'ish?
Posted By: MTCherub Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Very good point!

It was an excellent hunting rifle and there are a lot of very good memories attached to it.
Unfortunately my ability and opportunities to put it to good use any longer are gone, nor do I have a son to pass it on to.....but I have friends with sons just coming of age who this would be an excellent starter rifle to have.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/15
Passing that along to a beginner would be a very classy act.
Here are a few A-series s/ns I'd like dates for-

B4002xx 99C 308 Win

C1013xx 99A 308 Win

A3510xx 99F 300 Sav

B2990xx 99DL 243 Win

E1107xx 99E 308 Win

And finally, would an L0012xx rifle only possibly be a Spanish gun? Or were there any American-made guns sneaking out that late?

TIA for the help.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/29/15
Originally Posted by jimbobfunny
Here are a few A-series s/ns I'd like dates for-
B4002xx 99C 308 Win --> end of 1973
C1013xx 99A 308 Win --> early 1976
A3510xx 99F 300 Sav --> end of 1969
B2990xx 99DL 243 Win --> summer of 1973
E1107xx 99E 308 Win --> early 1983

Originally Posted by jimbobfunny
And finally, would an L0012xx rifle only possibly be a Spanish gun? Or were there any American-made guns sneaking out that late?

TIA for the help.

Yes, the L prefix for 99's mean it's a Spanish 99C. No other Savage rifles have had an L prefix. I presume it's a 308?
Thanks for the info.

Yes, 308, sold as NIB, brought more than I thought a Span should bring (around $600 IIRC.)
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/29/15
Originally Posted by jimbobfunny
Thanks for the info.

Yes, 308, sold as NIB, brought more than I thought a Span should bring (around $600 IIRC.)

As a hunting rifle they get a LOT of grief. As a collectible postmil they are just being noticed I think. There probably was less than 1400 made, and they and the 1895's were the only members of the Savage 99 family to be made outside of a Savage factory. I don't think $600 for a high condition one is out of order - and does it have the box? Good deal in that case.
Posted By: BigEast Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/29/15
Calhoun,

I've been searching high and low to try and date a 99E.

B7977xx 99E 308 win

Thanks in advance for your help!!!

Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/29/15
Welcome to the campfire, BigEast! Very early 1975 for your 99E.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/29/15
1975
Posted By: BigEast Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/30/15
Thanks!

Great forum, glad I found it!
Hello, as you all know by now,lol
11132xx sn
19t lbc
any ideas?
Thks, guys
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/04/15
That would be 1966, probably very early 1966.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
That would be 1966, probably very early 1966.

thks so much
Posted By: Texgunner Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/14/16
I've been looking at a 99 on GB. The serial is 6795**. The lever boss code is a 19 followed by what appears to be a large lowercase r, all in a stamped circle. Could the "r" actually be another letter? All the stampings are pretty sharp. Any ideas on her birth-date? Thanks, Gary
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/14/16
Not an R. Probably a lightly struck D or an E - which is 1952/1953 and matches the serial number. There is crossover in this serial number range to both years, I tend to go with the later year under the assumption it's quite possible that Savage didn't get around to switching to the new stamps for a couple of months. I find that more likely than they had 13,000 or more receivers stacked up in a queue and they did them out of order.
Posted By: Texgunner Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/14/16
Thanks Calhoun. That makes it about my age! Might have to look harder at it.
Gary
New hereabouts, I just got a 99MonteCarlo (never thought I'd own a Chevy) in .308 Win
S/N A6120xx, too new for an LBC
22" Westfield barrel with ramp front & folding rear sights
Schnabel-less fore end & pistol grip stock with big/little diamond checkering impressed (but I'm not)
Gold trigger, pretty color case
Tang safety, jeweled bolt
Curiosities:
Steel vs. brass round counter rotor
Letter "Z" deeply stamped below the normal "MODEL 99M" stamp, below the front scope mount

She's a looker, hope she's a shooter, hogs will find out this spring

My guess? '72 99DL. How did I do?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/28/16
Fall 1970, 99DL definitely sounds right with monte carlo stock and 99M stamp (good job looking it up). The Z is just an inspection stamp.

Welcome to the campfire!
Many thanks, Calhoun, for your speedy response!
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/28/16
That Rory/Calhoun is on it! grin
Two FS guns I'd like a date for-

C210xxx
E7799xx

Can't get more than three digits from the first seller.

C gun is a 99A 243, and the E gun is a 99C in 308.

Finally, can someone tell me the low and high numbers, or close to it, for 1977? I have a nephew born in 1977. In a weird family tradition, we all get a rifle made the year we were born on our 40th birthday, and I'd like to find a M99 made in 1977. I am thinking the above 243 might fall in that range, but only have guesses. I have about a year to go, so I'm not desperate yet. (You should have seen how hard it was to get my dad's 1932-made rifle...finally found a Win M54 made that year...but it took two years to find it.)

Thanks for the help!
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/29/16
That's a cool family tradition. Keep it going! Won't be hard to find a 1977 gun. Too bad it wasn't 1976, you could get him a Ruger Liberty model 77 in 250-3000. smile
I owned a Ruger Liberty M77 in 250-3K. It was in like-new condition. I finally sold it when somebody offered my way too much money for it. If I still had it, that 'way too much money' would look like even more insanity.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/29/16
Originally Posted by jimbobfunny
Two FS guns I'd like a date for-

C210xxx
E7799xx

Can't get more than three digits from the first seller.

C gun is a 99A 243, and the E gun is a 99C in 308.

Finally, can someone tell me the low and high numbers, or close to it, for 1977? I have a nephew born in 1977. In a weird family tradition, we all get a rifle made the year we were born on our 40th birthday, and I'd like to find a M99 made in 1977. I am thinking the above 243 might fall in that range, but only have guesses. I have about a year to go, so I'm not desperate yet. (You should have seen how hard it was to get my dad's 1932-made rifle...finally found a Win M54 made that year...but it took two years to find it.)

Thanks for the help!


C210xxx == summer of 1976
E7799xx == spring of 1987

For 1977 look for something in the C4x-C5x range, bit high or low of that works as well.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/29/16
1977 was C349xxx to C627xxx. I like that family tradition. I have a well worn EG in 250-3K that was produced in 1945, the year I was born. The 1945 serial number had a lot to do with me buying it.
Thanks to both.

It's a good tradition. I may add to it this year as I have twins turning 21. I may give them each a Ruger 1022 and add that to the tradition. Age forty is a long time to wait. :-)
I have inherited a Savage 99e chambered in .308 from my family but I never got to hear any stories of its use. Would be great if someone can help me figure out the year it was made in. The serial is shown on the bottom left hand side of the receiver and I could not find the LBC.
B3925xx is the serial.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/13/16
Production would have been late 1973.
Thanks! Really helps to get an understanding of my rifle. Next step is to clean it up and put some rounds through it!
Where would you date C994xxx? I am getting conflicting opinions...one says late '78/early '79, and another says 1980.

What about E489xxx? Mid-80s?

Finally, a bit off-topic but important, any update on David's book pub schedule? I placed my pre-order on Amazon the minute I heard about it being available for pre-order. (Ordered one for home, one for the office!)
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/24/16
Early 1979 for the rifle. E489xxx is mid-1985.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/24/16
c994 = 1979, E489 =1985,
I'll bring the book thread back up but I haven't heard anything from the publisher for about a month.
Posted By: DocRocket Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/08/16
I just lucked into a nice "shooting" condition 99F in .358 Win caliber. I've been looking for one for a while, but prices are high for .358's! Serial #9182XX, and the lever boss code appears to be 8H ( it might be possibly 8A, but I think it's an H). Year of manufacture...?
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/08/16
1956.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/09/16
Congrats, Doc! Very hard to find those pre-1960 358's.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/09/16
That's a great one Doc! That's one of my favorites to hunt bear with.
Posted By: shootAI Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/16
7396xx

Any idea on year of manufacture? It's a 300 savage
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/16
For a rifle in the serial range, look on the lever boss, the big hump that the lever pivots on. On the front of the boss there will be an oval with a one or two digit number and a letter. That is called the Lever Boss Code, or LBC. The letter is the date code.They started the date codes in 1949 with "A", 1950 was "B", 1951 was "C", etc, etc. No O or Q, they looked too much alike. You may need to get a magnifying glass out to read it, the stamps are kind of soft sometimes and hard to read. If you can make out the LBC someone here can give you the date, or just figure it out starting with "A" in 49, Joe.
Posted By: shootAI Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/16
The LBC is unlegible. Only half the stamp imprinted in he metal. One letter is an E it looks like.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/16
The E is the part that matters. Would = 1953

The missing part is an inspector's number.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/16
739,xxx should be 1954 and an F.
Posted By: 700LH Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/19/16
Savage 99C 243, Serial # C3969xx, series A on the barrel.
Reading here, is this a early to mid 1977 rifle?
Thanks
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/19/16
Yes sir it is. smile
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/20/16
I just learned about LBC here, yesterday. So, I checked my rifles for their LBCs and found that my 99E with 1MM serial number was made in 1964 with LBC 10R. My older 99F with serial number in the 7xxxxxx range has no LBC. What's up with that? Any ideas? My oldest rifle, a 99EG with serial number in the 3xxxxxx range is too old for a LBC.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/20/16
The 99F should have one, might have been really lightly struck or skippe, or maybe buffed off during a reblue?
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/20/16
You can always pull the butt stock and look for the stamp on the receiver. That one is usually stamped well.
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/21/16
I checked for the LBC on my 99E, and it was R, so the rifle was made in 1964. I checked my 99F, serial number in the 7,xx,xxx range (1955) and there is no LBC. Did they just forget to stamp it?
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/21/16
You pulled the butt stock and couldn't find it?

It's Savage, anything could have happened - or not.
Posted By: cgman Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/23/16
Hi folks, sorry if this is a redundant question, but i can't seem to find my specific model 99. i found the serial number and the maker's mark, but either my savage is mis-marked or it doesn't really exist. my rifle states that it is a 12M model 99. the serial seems to date back to 1961 (1014xxx), but i just cant find the "M" anywhere online. Any ideas?

thanks in advance

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Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/23/16
I can tell the rear sight elevator looks correct for 1961. grin 12M if read on the lever boss is inspector 12, M designates year. 1949=A 1950=B and so on, minus the O and Q. M is a 1961 rifle.

Barrel length? Raised rear sight boss or not? Stock features front and back? Checkering or not? Buttplate?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/23/16
1961 means a 99E if it doesn't have a cartridge window, a 99F if it doesn't have a Monte Carlo stock and does have a rear sight barrel boss, or a 99DL if it has a Monte Carlo stock.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/24/16
I've not seen that rear sight on an E. Bet it's a DL.
Posted By: cgman Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/26/16
I've attached a few more pics. let me know if you need to see anything with more detail

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Posted By: TomA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/27/16
Looks like a 99F since it has a barrel boss and rounded forearm tip. Tom
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/27/16
My vote/guess is DL. Slightly longer and more slender forearm than the F, 24" barrel.
Posted By: TomA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/27/16
A picture of the whole rifle should clarify. Tom
Posted By: cgman Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/27/16
Thanks for the input. the 99eg is the closest comparison i can find without an exact stamp on the gun.

According to this reference, http://www.savage99.com/models.htm, i may have a 99g,99r or 99eg, due to the pistol grip with checkering.

Can you think of any other way I can narrow down the exact model so if I were to sell i would be better educated? This is very confusing, does it make sense to contact savage directly, too?

Are there any great and accurate pricing guides out there (free?)? is this site reliable? http://www.firearmspriceguide.com/guns/search/savage%20/orderby/model/desc/60

If so, I would love to find the exact model and be able to use it.

Thanks again
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/28/16
1961, all we need is barrel length to tell you what it is. 24" DL, 22" F. Aluminum buttplate DL. Steel, F. Raised monte carlo comb DL, not raised comb, F.
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/28/16
Sorry, I missed your post the first time around. I checked on the frame of the receiver and found a faint 16G, as you said. This tallys with the 1955 manufacture date. I also found 10 F U P stamped into the butt plate and butt stock. Any clue what that means? Thanks for the help.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/28/16
Can't be an EG or G because they have a schnoble forearm and your's has a round forearm, Joe.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/28/16
Originally Posted by Jerseyboy
Sorry, I missed your post the first time around. I checked on the frame of the receiver and found a faint 16G, as you said. This tallys with the 1955 manufacture date. I also found 10 F U P stamped into the butt plate and butt stock. Any clue what that means? Thanks for the help.


When they stopped stamping SNs on the various subassemblies they went to a code system to keep them grouped. I don't think anyone knows what the codes really mean other than to provide a grouping.
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/28/16
OK. The bottom line is they stamped the LBC in a different place. thanks again. I learn something every day.
Posted By: cgman Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/03/16
Confirmed 24" barrel. i also found an "SP" encompassed with a circle behind the dovetail under the scope.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/04/16
As Fireball said, 1961 Model 99-DL. The SP in the circle is the Savage Proof mark.
Posted By: njdane Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/15/16
Hello, I'm new here and curious if anyone can tell me manufacture date for 99C with # F6124XX

Thank!
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/15/16
1st half of 1997.
Posted By: njdane Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/25/16
thank you!
Posted By: leftyleif Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/27/16
Here's another dating question from a new member...

I recently inherited a 1899 Savage 300 which was my grandad's

serial number 2517**
matching number on deep schnoble front end - slide latch type
24" barrel, screws off like a take down model
integral front sight, rear is what i believe is called a rocky mountain sight -a kind of flat blade that rides over different height peaks
trigger slide safety
rotary magazine and counter

the upper tang measures at 3" long, has two small screws and a cocking indicator -no drilling anywhere for scopes etc

utica 1909 stamped on barrel, patent sept 4/06

there is a small K stamped in front of the lever pivot screw, but i understand this is a manufacturer's mark, not the later date series code. no circle etc around it.

one dating site puts this at a 1923 model 1899 - is this correct? and other info that can be shared about this?

I'd like to replaced the poorly carved rear stock my grandad made to replace the cracked original - but not sure what style would be most appropriate. measurements for series 3 models appear to be the same, but if this is older, why would that be the case?

thanks!
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/27/16
Sounds like an early 99F or 99G. The F had a straight uncheckered grip, the G was checkered and had a pistol grip. From what you say the original stock is gone but if it's an F the lever will be straight, curved if it's a G.
It would have been produced in 1923. David
Posted By: leftyleif Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/27/16
thank you David - it's a curved lever - so a G it is. it has what i'd call pressed in checkering on the forestock, looks pretty cheap and thinly done compared to some patterns i've seen. forgot to mention it on the first entry though.

cheers,

leif

Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/27/16
It must be a later forearm then. Pressed checkering didn't come along until 1965.
Posted By: leftyleif Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/28/16
4.5" from the inside of the steel to latch on the fore arm, but... the numbers match the action. how can it be late model if it matches?


there is also some looseness to the barrel fit that i can't see making for accurate shooting, square threads by the way, and a very mangled looking front latch for the forestock. how is this dealt with? shims? or a new latch perhaps? I have seen a blank available online, but what is this part called, and does anyone know a source for this and the stock draw bolt please?

i'll try and add photos once i work out how

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Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/29/16
They didn't have pressed checking on TD's. A picture would be helpful.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/29/16
The checkering is not pressed, it's just well worn.

The takedown latch on the barrel is hard to find and expensive. If it functions OK I'd just leave it.

Stock bolt is pretty common. I can send you one. Look for a flashing red envelope at the top of the screen which is a private message.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/29/16
That's not pressed checkering on the forearm, probably is the original. That is a buggered up latch. Someone here might have one. You might get lucky and find a butt stock. Sometimes they fit, sometimes they need a little hand fitting, Joe.
Posted By: Mikus72 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/02/16
I have a 99 with serial number 6385xx with (lbc) I think 2c can you guys help? It's a 300 savage
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/03/16
Welcome to the site. They started the LBC dating system in 1949 with A, 1950 with B, etc, so your C is a 1951. The 2 is an inspectors mark. If you can get some pictures up, we can tell you what model, Joe.
Below is a pic of two Savage 99s in 300 Savage. I am thinking of purchasing 1 for deer hunting and want to know what year and model they are. Both just say Savage 99 on the receiver
The top one has no LBC and serial#3842xx, brass mag and made in Utica NY
The bottom one has LBC but no numbers, just looks like a backwards C and serial # 6935xx, steel mag, checkered stock and made in Chicopee Falls Mass.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/04/16
The Utica rifle should be 1939.

The Chicopee Falls rifle is 1952 +/- a year. Lever boss code for 1952 is D, so what you are seeing on your rifle could be a poorly stamped D.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/04/16
The Utica rifle has been after market drilled and tapped. Hurts the collector value a great deal. But would be a great hunting rifle if the price is right.
Thanks for the info!
Both rifles are drilled and tapped but I plan on putting a scope on the one I choose.
So, which one do I choose? Again, this will strictly be a deer rifle and will be used! The scoped rifle (1939) is $100 less than the other. Maybe I'll just have the gunsmith check both bores and then pick the one with the best barrel.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/04/16
The pre war gun with the Weaver V7 is a good buy at $100 under the post war gun.

You are dead on to pick the best bore though.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/04/16
Both are model 99EG's, the top one is at the very end of the uncheckered EG's. They are equivalent for hunting without knowing how the bore is or how they shoot.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/04/16
Make sure that the D&T was done correctly. Check for cracks behind the top tang.
Let's try this one...

Roll stamped

SAVAGE
MODEL 99F

on the side of the front ring.

Hand stamped with a "D" under the "M" in MODEL.

Serial number 11172XX.

Cal. .358.

Factory D&T, pressed checkering, steel rotor, gold grooved trigger, plastic buttplate, sling swivels, tang safety.

LBC is 29T.

I see that "T" LBC is 1966, is this a 1966 99F?

No collector worth but I'm taking it to Maine in Oct. for moose hunting.

Wondering how to scope it, I have quite a few period scopes, 2.75x Kollmorgans, Weaver K4, Lyman All American 4X, etc.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/24/16
Put a Leupold on it. Don't screw up the hunt of a lifetime with an old scope. There's a reason they build new ones.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/24/16
Fireball nailed it. A Maine non-resident moose permit very well may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. I was fortunate to draw a resident bull permit in 2008. I wound up shooting my bull ten minutes after legal shooting time opened in a driving rain storm. It was almost too dark to see the moose.

I wouldn't screw around with a vintage scope. The cost of a good modern scope will be minimal compared to what you are going to spend for this hunt if you do it right.
OK, point taken, I have plenty of new ones to choose from.

I'm also bringing a stainless MRC 1999 in .308 for the bad weather.


thanks,

Rob


Posted By: Pasche Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/16
Hello Savage-Collectors!

A friend of mine bought a Savage 99 in .308 stamped as "Savage Modell 99M" with an "X" under the first line.
The Serial Number is 10794XX.

Unfortunately the hammer cock indicator pin doesn't come out with cocked hammer. I took it apart and found the indicator pin is broken. You don't get a spare part here in Germany. The stock is not made of fine wood and someone painted with clear paint. Not realy good, but a good base to make something fine of it. :-) Anyhow, he ist thinking about selling the 99 again, because he found out that he is no lever-action man, he preferes modern guns and is looking for a Blaser R8 now.

So I am thinking about buying the 99.

Can anybody tell me, what was the manufacturing year of this rifle?

Many thanks in advance and best regards from Germany

Pasche

Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/16
The serial puts production in 1964 and would have one of the first style press checkered stocks (double diamond).

The "X" stamp was the assemblers stamp.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/16
It was probably produced in 1964. There's an oval stamped on the lever boss (The thing the lever is attached to in front of the trigger). It has one or two numbers plus a letter. The letter for 1964 is R. Savage started stamping these codes in 1949 with the letter A. They skipped O and Q.
The M stands for Monte Carlo. Your rifle would be a 99DL.
If the cocking indicator spring is broken they are hard to find here also. The rifle will function without it.
David
Posted By: Pasche Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/16
Many thanks for your helpfull and appreciated information! You are right, there is a R on the lever boss and the 99 has a Monte Carlo stock.

The cocking indicator spring is ok, but the cocking indicator is broken at the drilling were the spring is going through. That is not a big problem - I can make a new indicator pin.

Unfortunately the owner is asking for 900 € for the rifle, in my opinion to much for the gun in that condition.

I'll do the repair for him and have to let it go.

Best regards from Germany

Pasche



Posted By: Pasche Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/16
Now after a little discussion about the value of the 99DL I have got it. :-)
So I can call the 99DL my own and it will be the fourth part of my Savage collection.

Inbetween I have manufactured a new indicator pin and the 99 got a bit of care and oil. Runs perfectly now again!

Here comes a picture of the four:

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Best regards from Germany

Pasche
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/16
You're looking good. Do you hunt with all of them? David
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/16
Congratulations on the new purchase. I'm guessing that finding 99's in Germany is not easy.

That's a nice collection of Colt revolvers, also. The prices on the snake models have sure jumped here in the states. smile
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/16
Looks good, Joe.
Posted By: Pasche Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/17/16
Many thanks of your congrats! :-)

I am hunting with the both in .308 because the one in .243 and .22HP are not allowed to shoot at wild boars in germany. And inbetween wild boars can always cross your way in the forests.

The .22HP from 1912 was used until the late 70ties in Bavaria for hunting roe deers from a female farmer, I knew her from the times I was a little child. Her name was Alice and she died last January at the age of 87.

The saddle gun was brought with from a Canada hunting trip to Germany in the 80ies from an older hunter. I bought it via egun a few years ago. He had never used it here.

99 are really rare here in Germany. I am glad to own my four and I know 2 person owning one from 1903 in .303 and a take down from 1920 in 250-3000, both in great condition.

Regarding the Colts: the 4" Python from 1966 and the 6" OMM from 1959 are from my father, he was a germany police man, he died in January last year at the age of 86. I added the 6" Python Elite a few years ago for sports shooting and the Anaconda last year. Unfortunately my fathers Colts have timing problems and in Europe it is not possible to get the problems fixed. The gun smithes here are able to work on modern S&W but not at the older Colt actions. And Colt does no linger have a support in Germany.
Prices for Colts rise high here since they are no longer manufactured. For Pythons and Anacondas you can easily pay more than 1000 - 1500 €. I payed 450 for the Elite in new condition about 9 years ago and 860 for the Anaconda in May 2015. Glad to have them! ;-)

Here you see them together with my S&W 629:
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Best regards from Germany!

Pasche
Posted By: hookeye Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/18/16
3484xx

The number on mine. Checked a couple websites, says 1935.

.300 savage, no studs, not D&T

Got it for a decent price I thought, have no clue what it is worth.

Just a hunting gun IMHO. Got some dings, no tang crack. Rain tomorrow,would like to hit the range this week to see what it does with the Lightfoot mount (hey I can actually see an aiming point).

As a kid my dad was a lefty, so before he got his first Ruger #1, he had a 110 lefty. Had catalogs. Remember reading the Savage gun catalog inside my school book....algebra class with some jerk midget of a lib teacher.........was '78 or '79.

Back then I thought I'd want a 99. Ended up getting a #1 myself then.

This my first 99.

Shot it with the fuzzy rear sight, .300 Savage. Buttplate.
Was pleasantly surprised at the comfort.

Of course the guy that owned it before me said it kicked HARD!

Blast was decent, but recoil? Pffffft. Nothing to even get excited about.
Posted By: Muffin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/19/16
Help with 'Date-of birth' please.

99, takedown, F(I think), 22 HP

S/N 1998XX

NO LBC that I can see....
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/19/16
hookeye, 1935 is correct. We can identify model if you'll post pics.
muffin, 1919, only 1899H TD's were produced in 22 HP that year. 1899F was a saddle ring carbine with a heavier barrel than the 1899H.
LBC's weren't used until 1949. That's when they started with "A". 1950 "B", etc.
David
Posted By: Muffin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/19/16
wyo1895, thanks much...
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/19/16
The 1899H morphed into the 99E and 99F a year or two after your rifle was made, so your guess was close. And your rifle will look just like the 1920's 99F since it will have a metal buttplate. It's still an 1899H even without the "normal" hard rubber buttplate usually seen on 1899H's, it's just that the last year or two of the 1899H they switched to the metal.
Posted By: hookeye Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/19/16
All pimped out with Godagrip stick on shotgunner wedge, some dude's scope base wink and a Redfield Rev I had laying around.
Guy coming over to check on some Jeep rims/tires or I'd be at the range.
Maybe tomorrow.

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Hello Fellows, first time poster.

I have a gun that I'm going to try to sell for a friend of mine that lost his job.

Here is what he told me about this gun. His Mother bought this gun ( I believe new) in the mid-1950's. They are country people so this gun has killed it's far share of game down here in SW TX. It shows the wear from probably riding in a pick up truck over rough dirt roads.

My goal is to find out the year (if possible - I read about the fire etc.) and what I should ask for the gun. It is located in San Antonio Texas for pickup when sold.

Other than common usage the only thing I see missing is that the butt plate is gone. I think it was hard rubber as the oval part by the lever is still there and in good condition and it is black hard rubber. It could have have had a padded butt plate also as there is a 1/4" lighten of the wood color on the butt of the stock.
Most of the bluing is still on the gun but it does have some (minor) light rusting on the barrel ( I understand that to a collector there is probably no such thing a minor rusting - sorry). Varnish is gone in places with nicks and scratches on the stock but nothing I would call serious considering its age and use.

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p732/Texasaaa/Savage%20250-3000/IMG_8871_zpsfryiehem.jpg

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p732/Texasaaa/Savage%20250-3000/IMG_8867_zpsugolyxr5.jpg

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p732/Texasaaa/Savage%20250-3000/IMG_8872_zpsjxv5kxz5.jpg

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p732/Texasaaa/Savage%20250-3000/IMG_8869_zpskbr9vzzv.jpg

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p732/Texasaaa/Savage%20250-3000/IMG_8867_zpsugolyxr5.jpg

The serial # is 5898XX. The Lever stamp I'm not sure of
http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p732/Texasaaa/Savage%20250-3000/IMG_8879_zps7fdaiugl.jpg

My email is [email protected] if you want more photos, I'm sure there will post. My EYES are glossed over and NECK is killing me. Photobucket has officially kicked my butt.

Thank you in advance. Texasaaa
It would have had a metal buttplate, only option that was available in 1951 (mfr date of the gun). It's a model 99EG, by the way. Not totally sure that's the original buttstock, fit looks off. Is anything stamped on the end of the buttstock in the wood?

Good luck to your friend, being out of work sucks.
What caliber.......
Originally Posted by jimmy3
What caliber.......


Check out the "title" of the thread. .250-3000... wink
Its' too bad they have to sell a family heirloom. Unfortunately in that condition it's not going to bring a lot. The back of the buttstock was originally curved to fit the curved buttplate. It looks like it has been cut flat which means an original buttplate won't fit properly further decreasing the value. David
$400. Hurry before I change my mind! laugh
Im getting a 303 Takedown, Ser# 21475X looks to date 1920 looks like a "H" but for the steel butt plate Indian in a Circle,Has the front sight raised with the barrel and the small sight blade with screw. a bit Grey but so am I, great bore and pretty good wood! would this be a "H" or "F" right on the line it looks to me!
I would call it a 1899-H, TD. Something new to play with. Enjoy!
Fireball, if your still interested please call me 210-275-5657.
I'll be up late tonight. Bob
Posted By: DocS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/11/16
Probably an easy one. I know it's a later build in .300 Savage. SN 5741xx. The lever boss has what almost looks like "24B". Awfully difficult to make out well, though, except for the B. Checkered stock and steel buttplate. "Should" be all original as the guy I got it from had no interest in modifying his firearms. I'd like to know manufacture timeframe and letter designation, just to satisfy my own curiosity. This gun's a great shooter!
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/11/16
"A"= 1949. One guess what year "B" is. grin

Big fat stocks and round forearm and it's a model R. slim stocks and schnable forearm and it's an EG.
Posted By: DocS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/12/16
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Crappy picture, I know, but it's my baby.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/12/16
That's a fairly nice looking 99R. It's a pretty common model, but nothing wrong with them (well, except the extra 16oz or so added by the heavy forearm grin).

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: DocS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/12/16
Thanks!
Posted By: leaverman Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/29/17
I took in trade a Savage 99, 300 savage, steel counter, serial number 6294XX, the oval stamp on the lever boss has the number "200" in it. Any info on this rifle would greatly be appreciated.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 04/29/17
Originally Posted by bbilski
I took in trade a Savage 99, 300 savage, steel counter, serial number 6294XX, the oval stamp on the lever boss has the number "200" in it. Any info on this rifle would greatly be appreciated.


That would be 20 D no doubt. 1952.
Posted By: leaverman Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/06/17
Fireball, thanks for the info, after getting my cheaters on, you were right "20 D"

Thanks...........
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/11/17
I have a 99 #1062310, no lbc. Anyone know the year?
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/11/17
1963 (P). Still has the cut checkering. smile
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/11/17
Originally Posted by Rick99
1963 (P). Still has the cut checkering. smile


Thanks Rick. It's a 99F in .284. I'm trying to get a little more information about it, but it could be a very early .284, as in pre-production or some such. Still not sure.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/11/17
I'm jealous
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/11/17
Might be worth pulling the butt stock to see if the date code is stamped on the receiver. We call it the LB code but it's not unique to that spot.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/12/17
Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Might be worth pulling the butt stock to see if the date code is stamped on the receiver. We call it the LB code but it's not unique to that spot.


Mike and David,
It's may be just a put together, who knows? It's got some interesting clues for sure. No date code anywhere on the rifle that I can find.
Posted By: GeneC Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/13/17


Hello everyone. I just picked up a 99 in 300 savage and would like to find out when it was produced. The serial # is 598169.
The little number on the front of the trigger guard is un readable.
Thanks for any help you can give me.

Gene-C
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/13/17
Welcome to the site. I have one that is 575XXX with a lever boss code "B", that makes it a 1950, and another with a lever boss code "D", 646XXX, making it a 1952. So, I'd put yours between 1950 and 52. I think Davids book has the serial list, but, I just woke up and don't feel like going down stairs to check. Someone will be along shortly to give you more accurate dating, Joe.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/13/17
Does your rifle have the rather heavy rounded forearm, that would make it a Model R, or the thinner tapered forearm with the schnabel tip, that would make it a Model EG, Joe.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/13/17
My E.G. #5977xx has a C LBC code for 1951, so yours is probably from 1951.
Posted By: GeneC Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/13/17

My gun has the rounded forearm but the gun has been re blued and I think it has custom stock and forearm. I looked again for the letters stamped in front of the trigger guard with a magnifying glass and it looks like the letter C . That would indicate it was made in 1951. It has cut checkering and an black cap on the front of the forend. The stock also is a monty carlow. The gun is beautiful and I wish you all could see it but I do not know how to post pictures. Not a collector piece for the purest but it looks good in my cabinet. I plan on taking it Hog hunting this winter in Texas. I love the smell of a new gun in the morning!!!!

Gene-C
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/13/17
Definitely restocked based on your description.
Posted By: GeneC Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 05/14/17


Thanks Joe and Jack. I have not shot it yet but hope to get to the range soon.

Gene-C
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/17
As Elvis would say..."Been Aaaaaaay while boys!"

Add this to the list for anyone still compiling such things...will make a great book one day...

99F .300sav
# 94030X
LBC: 16 I

So....that said, I imagine it to be about a 1957. PIcked this up in the Plymouth, NH area from a very decent guy.

Sound about right?

Need to score an period flip up rear sight as it has been replaced. Shooter/Hunter grade...has some damn character!

I am even afraid to ask if some of the old bucks from when I was a regular are still here...if not, they certainly are in a better place!
Posted By: S99VG Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/17
Wow, 244,014 views. That's gotta be a record!
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/17
1957 production. It would have had the non-flip up semi-buckhorn originally but since it's hunter grade you might want the flip-up to clear a scope.
Hi all,

First post and fairly new to this forum - I was hoping to draw on the wealth of expertise on this forum / topic to help address a few questions re: my Savage 99

SN 27458X - which i think lead 1925. is this accurate?
No LBC code that I could find
I have found out that has a 1-14 barrel twist

I recently purchased some ammo and believe I may have purchased the wrong type. I purchased 100 gr Nosler BT. After shooting a few rounds through it and examining the target it appears the bullet is floating or tumbling when it enters the paper. I am getting oblong or profile holes in the paper vs. a nice clean round circle.

Questions:
1. Is it true a 100 gr bullet will not stabilize in this rifle? Would you also be kind of enough to share a summary of why?
2. Will a 87gr Speer soft point be better and more stable? Why?
3. Are there particular recommendations on the ammo or where to source it?

I love the gun and want to use it.
thank you in advance
Mike
Posted By: Polecat Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/17
Welcome to the fire. I assume we're talking about 250-3000 .
I believe you are right on the 1925 date of manufacture, There others here that are better with dates than me. Savage didn't start using LBC until 1949.
Yes, it should be a 1-14" ROT.
It's not weight but length of a bullet that determines the ROT needed to stabilize it. 87gr speer hot core is the go to bullet for the older 250-3000, but some have reported exceptable accuracy with shorter 100gr bullets (Nosler BT are long bullets). If you know the length of the bullet, you can use JBM stability calculator to see if will stabilize in your rifle. http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

Lee
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/17
Originally Posted by BeaverBeliever90
I recently purchased some ammo and believe I may have purchased the wrong type. I purchased 100 gr Nosler BT. After shooting a few rounds through it and examining the target it appears the bullet is floating or tumbling when it enters the paper. I am getting oblong or profile holes in the paper vs. a nice clean round circle.

Questions:
1. Is it true a 100 gr bullet will not stabilize in this rifle? Would you also be kind of enough to share a summary of why?
2. Will a 87gr Speer soft point be better and more stable? Why?
3. Are there particular recommendations on the ammo or where to source it?

I love the gun and want to use it.
thank you in advance
Mike

Nosler makes no bullets that will stabilize in a pre-1960 Savage 99 in 250-3000, they are all too long. Some other 100gr bullets will work pretty well, just not Noslers.

Now, having said that... if you take some pliers and pull that plastic tip off (or cut it or grind it flat), it'll likely be short enough to stabilize fairly well. It's overall length that destablizes it, as Polecat says. I did it with Nosler Partitions and it worked. I presume lengths would be similar.

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Calhoun, how about these Sierras?
WIll they be stable? pre-1950 rifle.
https://www.brownells.com/reloading...ed-100-box-sku749003137-34354-66844.aspx
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/17
Originally Posted by Sportsdad60
Calhoun, how about these Sierras?
WIll they be stable? pre-1950 rifle.
https://www.brownells.com/reloading...ed-100-box-sku749003137-34354-66844.aspx

It all depends on the length, and I can't find anywhere they publish the length of that bullet. Nosler is nice enough to put in their manuals that none of their .257 bullets will work in 1-14" twist Savage 99's, never seen another mfr do that.

If it measures over .95", it's probably not going to be great or maybe totally suck. Closer to .9" or less the better. A Partition with the lead tip cut off comes in at .915" and was shooting 3 shot groups of about 1.5" at 100yds. With the tip on the bullet was measuring 1.04" and was shooting 5" to 8" groups at 100yds.
Thanks Calhoun!
You all rock! Thank for sharing & getting me on the right track
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/14/17
I'm one of the guys that love the Remington 100 gr. I have 3 250's, one made in 1919, one late 40's and one in 1950 . They all shoot that bullet very well. My 250R is pigs eye accurate at 75+ yards, Joe.
Originally Posted by JoeMartin
I'm one of the guys that love the Remington 100 gr. I have 3 250's, one made in 1919, one late 40's and one in 1950 . They all shoot that bullet very well. My 250R is pigs eye accurate at 75+ yards, Joe.

Just ordered some of those too just as a comparison to the Sierras . Most places were out of stock of these Remington 100 gr .257 bullets. Found a place that had 1 box left....
Posted By: Jerseyboy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/16/17
My 1957 vintage 99F in 250-3000 will shoot bullets from 75 to 90 grains quite well, but the Speer and Sierra 100 grain bullets I have tried are not accurate at all. I have some 100 grain Remington Core-Lokts, and I will try them. I recently bought a box of Hornady 250 Savage ammo loaded with their 100 grain bullets. I plan on trying them in the Savage 99 as well as in my Savage Axis rifle with 10" twist E.R. Shaw barrel. Based on my previous results, I don't have a lot of confidence in them shooting well in the lever gun. I have carefully measured the twist in the 250-3000, and it is 1 in 14". The rifling is in good shape, too. I have some Barnes 80 grain TTSX bullets and might try them in the 250-3000 as well, but they would be best in the 250 bolt gun. The odds are that the 250-3000 is best with the bullet originally loaded by Savage.
Posted By: KenB Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/22/17
Just want to be sure for my own sake, got a 99F take down. When I inherited it, it had embossing tape on it saying it was purchased in 1921 the serial number is 2341XX. Is it an older rifle that was purchased in 1921? Maybe a 1919 or 1920 rifle? or is it a 1921 unit bought in the year it was made?
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/22/17
The serial number places it as being manufactured in 1921. David
Posted By: KenB Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/22/17
Originally Posted by wyo1895
The serial number places it as being manufactured in 1921. David

Thanks very much. In the past I assumed it was a 1921 based off the embossing tape.. But for some reason I started to wonder if my assumptions where correct or if I was wrong. Again thanks for confirming the Manufacture year.
Newbie here. Recently had an 1899 handed down to me.
S/N 2761xx
30-30
22" barrel, round
Not a T/D
Model 1899 stamped on top of barrel just fwd of breach.
Front sight is brass knife edge in dovetail.

I think this was mfg'd in 1925, but I'm confused about which model it is.
Seems the s/n is too late for a 1899A short, but nothing else matches.
Any ideas?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/25/17
99C or 1920's style 99E would fit, I believe. The 99E would have a thinner barrel than the 99C. Agree that it should be a 1925 rifle.

The Model 1899 stamp was present on a lot of the 1920's rifles. We still call them by their model 99 names they were catalogued by, tho.
Posted By: KeithNyst Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/25/17
Originally Posted by Sportsdad60
Calhoun, how about these Sierras?
WIll they be stable? pre-1950 rifle.
https://www.brownells.com/reloading...ed-100-box-sku749003137-34354-66844.aspx

I've found this web site to be very useful in looking up bullet lengthes. http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/lengths/lengths.shtml

It lists the 100grain Sierra ProHunter at 0.970" long. As a comparison, the Speer 87grain that works well in the 1:14 is listed at 0.82". If I recall correctly, you posted that you have a .250 that was re-barreled from a 22HP. If it was rebarreled at 1:10, the Sierra will most likely work; if 1:14, doubtful.
How about this SN? What year?
B877823
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/30/17
Spring of '75.
Thanks Calhoun!!
Also, Keith, sent you a pm. Thanks for that info you posted above!
Posted By: sctx Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/01/17
How about this one? C185296 made in Westfield. Thanks for any help.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/01/17
sctx, yours would be from the summer of 1976.
Posted By: sctx Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/02/17
Thanks Calhoun for your help.

Picked up a pretty nice 1899 in 38/55 with a really nice bore today for a nice price. I do have the serial number “1068xx” and it looks to be an “A” type barrel (round taper/no hex)
Not a lot of time to look it over real good yet. I was on my way to visit my dad in the hospital and that damn gun shop jumped right out in front of me.....LOL!
If someone could give me a build date, that would be great.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/04/17
1910 according to the books. Hard to find one with truly a good bore. If so, you did real good it sounds!
Thank you sir!
Yes, the bore was the first thing I looked at, and immediately made up my mind it was going home with me. It’s got some character, but for 107 years old it looks awesome.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/05/17
38-55 is the one that's still missing from my safe that I really want. Nice grab.
Well I got the 38-55 home today and cleaned it up. I noticed something on that I never seen on a 1899 before. This rifle has a small single letter “s” stamped on the lever boss. I don’t remember ever seeing a LBC on a 1899. I only ever remember seeing one on the later 99’s.
Anyone got any thoughts?
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/05/17
Not a LBC. Just an inspectors stamp. The stamp in that location started around serial # 90,000.
Thank you sir!
Ok, newbie here; posted a thread about the year of my 99E before I realized there was a designated thread; so mine says:

on the barrel:
model 99E series A

serial # is: C185xxx

no 'lever boss code' that I can see

What year does that put it? Thanks so much!
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/12/17
1976
Thanks a bunch! Did not get a great deal on it, as the seller was under the impression the serial number prefix meant the year that boss codes indicate. Live and learn.

Where are the codes described and listed that one might be able to shop with going forward? Thx!
Posted By: Kyracer6 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/18/17
I have my Dad's Model 99 serial # 6740xx...LBC 3E...any info on it would be appreciated..checkered stock and forearm
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/18/17
Originally Posted by Kyracer6
I have my Dad's Model 99 serial # 6740xx...LBC 3E...any info on it would be appreciated..checkered stock and forearm

Made in 1953, will be either a model 99EG with thin forearm having a schnabel tip, or a model 99R which has a fat and wide forearm with rounded end. The 99R was factory d&t for scope bases, the 99EG wasn't at that time.

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: 51willys Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/27/17
I've been reading the posts here for a while, and learning a lot. I thought it was time I joined. I have a 99F in .300 Savage, 22" barrel, LBC "6 I", serial # 941xxx. From what I have read on this forum , this is early in the 900,000 range for a .300.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/27/17
Originally Posted by 51willys
I've been reading the posts here for a while, and learning a lot. I thought it was time I joined. I have a 99F in .300 Savage, 22" barrel, LBC "6 I", serial # 941xxx. From what I have read on this forum , this is early in the 900,000 range for a .300.

Welcome to the campfire!

You are correct, that should be a 1957 99F. And since the early 900,000 rifles in 243/308/358 were being made at the same time that 700,000 serial numbered rifles in 250-3000 and 300 Savage were still being made, the first 99's in 900,000 range and chambered in 250-3000 or 300 Savage didn't show up for a while. And the very few 800,000 serial numbered rifles were made back in 1952/1953.

The most confusing serial number range that ever happened with 99's.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/27/17
Welcome, I had a 51 Willys pick up many moons ago. Someone will be along shortly to help with your question, Joe.
Posted By: 51willys Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/27/17
Thanks for the welcome, Joe.
Posted By: prc Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/02/17
I am new the forum and looking for some information.
What is the date of manufacture of a Savage Model 99 with serial # A6071xx ?
Thanks in advance for your help PRC
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/04/17
late 1970
Posted By: prc Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/04/17
Thanks very much. PRC
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/04/17
I have a 308. Serial number 11815xx. Can you great guys help me with date of manufacture. I haven’t got my hands on it yet, but that’s the serial number. Supposed be an E

Thanks
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/05/17
Looks like the end of 1968, right before they started using letters in front of the number.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/05/17
Thank you
Posted By: MGNZ Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/10/17
Hi,
I am new to this forum so firstly, Hi everyone!

I have just got myself a savage 99E in 308win.... what a great gun. Took it to the range for the first time today and like it even more now.

Trying to figure out how old it is... I think its 60's but I don't get anything useful from the published serial number date ranges.

- serial # C045106, stamped on the side of the receiver.
- it has a short foregrip
- no numbers stamped on the lever boss
- barrel text says:
MODEL 99E SERIES A,
WESTFIELD MASS U.S.A

Any help dating it would be much appreciated.
Mark
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/10/17
about late 1975.
Posted By: MGNZ Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/10/17
Originally Posted by wyo1895
about late 1975.


Thank you sir! very helpful.
Hi Folks,

Reading here helped convince me to buy a 308win 99e A3897xx. I don’t see an LBC, did all years have them? Stock is checkered, overall length is just shy of 40”. My seller was parting with his Father’s 99. I don’t reload, will 150g corelokts be a good round to start with? And thanks for getting me hooked on the 99e.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/13/17
Your 99E was made in very early 1970. Not all years have them, yours is likely right after they stopped.

Corelokts should work very well. Good luck, and welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/13/17
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Your 99E was made in very early 1970. Not all years have them, yours is likely right after they stopped.

Corelokts should work very well. Good luck, and welcome to the campfire!


I thought they stamped them until 1972? Today I came across a Series A .284 with stamped checkering, no date code, and a serial number starting with A so I guessed it was 72/73.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/13/17
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Your 99E was made in very early 1970. Not all years have them, yours is likely right after they stopped.

Corelokts should work very well. Good luck, and welcome to the campfire!


I thought they stamped them until 1972? Today I came across a Series A .284 with stamped checkering, no date code, and a serial number starting with A so I guessed it was 72/73.

We're both off a year. My data shows stamps until 1971.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/13/17
We were soooooooooooo close!
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/13/17
Yes, very early 1971, "27Y". I have had not reports of a "Z" stamp.
Great info, I really appreciate it. Any advice on cleaning the rotary, I had read to just use compressed air to blow it out? Also, my lever had grease on it, should that just be a light skin of oil?
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/19/17
Anyone know when 99F # 1062xxx was made. No date code visible. Thank you.
I have a EG 250-3000 507650 with LBC * asterisk, I have not seen this listed anywhere. I’m guessing 1948 birth. What say you?
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/20/17
S/N 5042XX lettered as 1/26/1948, and it has an * date code. So, 1948 should be correct.
Posted By: mad_dog Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/20/17
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Anyone know when 99F # 1062xxx was made. No date code visible. Thank you.


1963
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/21/17
I have 5027xx, 250-3000 1947 and 5070xx, 300 1948 both with the *. Both are EG's. David
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/21/17
Originally Posted by mad_dog
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Anyone know when 99F # 1062xxx was made. No date code visible. Thank you.


1963


Thanks Joe. Interesting, it's a .284.
Hello, I have a Savage Model 99A Series A 308. My father gave this to me before he passed away, and I would like to know its manufacture date.

The rifle does not have any marking on the lever boss. The serial number is D171989. This rifle has rotary magazine, brass cocking indicator and safety on the upper tang.

Any information about this rifle would be appreciated.

Thanks
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/31/17
1979
Posted By: C_Clark Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/05/18
I have a 1899 #109784. Any help out there? I'm new here and don't yet know how this works.
Posted By: C_Clark Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/05/18
Just where in time would #109784 fall? Does the number also indicate what type or caliber it is as well?
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/05/18
1910, there were several models then, 26" barrel, round, oct, half round/oct. 22" barrel, take down, saddle ring, need pics to help you ID, or at least good description of the rifle, Joe.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/11/18
Anybody 99F 1053xxx?
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/11/18
1963
Posted By: 7cats Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/18
Hello, I'm trying to figure out which model 99 I have. Serial 11111xx, LBC 23T, 308, 20" barrel, sight is bead dovetailed into a ramp, rear sight is a folding leaf (I think I put that in many years ago), holes for a scope base, straight forend, checkering on forend and grip, no counter, lever safety and plastic butt plate.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/18
99E.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/18
1966
Posted By: 7cats Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/18
Thanks, that's what I thought I remembered, but after reading 100's of words of model descriptions, none sounded like mine.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/18
If it's a 99E, it should say 99E on the receiver.
Posted By: 7cats Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/15/18
Unless it is under the scope base, I could not find a model number
.
I've got a Savage 99 takedown in 303 savage which still has a tang peep sight mounted on it, and a steel buttplate from my grandfather's collection with a serial 1486XX and a letter boss code H.

It is missing the forend piece, which I am trying to track down a replacement for, but I'm not sure which one I need, as I know many different ones were made. Any help from you fine folks would be appreciated, as the model number and year of manufacture are probably required to get the correct forend.

Dave
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/17/18
Dates to 1914. The H is just an inspectors stamp. Date codes didn't start till 1949. If it has a mark on the boss before 49 it's an inspectors mark. The date codes are in an oval with 1 or 2 numbers and a letter. They must be in the oval.I think the only T/D's in 1914 were the 1899 A with 26" barrel, the 1899 H with a 20" barrel and the 1899 250-3000 Savage Rifle. Since yours is not a 250, that rules out that model. How long is the barrel? 26" is an A, 20" is an H. Some one here might have a forearm, good luck, Joe..
Thanks Joe for the reply!

That's really interesting - I always assumed the circle with an H in it by the lever hinge was a LBC. I took a tape to my barrel and it is measuring at 22"

The plot thickens...
Posted By: Loggah Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/17/18
If it has a steel shotgun style buttplate,and 22" barrel its probably a 1899A short rifle. Don
It fits that description Don, just with a takedown configuration. Thanks a bunch!
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/17/18
Thanks Don. I thought of that but I pulled my Murray's out and it says the T/D wasn't available till 1917? I passed on a short rifle a couple years ago and cry about it every chance I get, Joe.
Posted By: Loggah Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/17/18
Joe,The takedown rifles were available from around serial number 70,000 im pretty sure it could be a takedown short rifle if it was a chopped off 1899A takedown ,it probably would have a crescent buttplate. Don
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/17/18
Originally Posted by Loggah
Joe,The takedown rifles were available from around serial number 70,000 im pretty sure it could be a takedown short rifle if it was a chopped off 1899A takedown ,it probably would have a crescent buttplate. Don

Pretty sure that some of the short rifles had crescent buttplates, so that's not a sure give away.

Love short rifles...

For killing stuff

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Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/18/18
My TD SR was made in 1912. They weren't cataloged that early but there are others around. David
Posted By: norm99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/18/18
Originally Posted by MauserHunter
It fits that description Don, just with a takedown configuration. Thanks a bunch!


thats what I was trying to determine on our PMs. IF itwas a 20" barrel forearm from a 22HP fits a 303,30-30, and i think a 25-35.

if it is a short rifle we will have to get a heaver forearm off a 26" TD barrel and I don't have any extras but I may have an extra standard forearm that could be cut for the rear bracket and a latch hole created, or I could have my stock maker do a new one for you..

norm

norm
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/18/18
Thanks for the continuing education guys, Joe.
Posted By: lxsolocam Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/22/18
Hey guys, brand new to the world of Savage 99 rifles. got one yesterday in a trade. I had a Remington 1100 the guy wanted pretty bad. Anyways the gun is a Savage 99 series A in 243. Serial number is B046593. The gun has a 22 inch barrel with a flip down rear sight. Aluminum buttplate. Case hardened lever. Tang safety. Rotary magazine with the shell counter. Gun came with Weaver style mounts and rings with a Simmons 3x9 scope on it. Pretty nice little rifle.

from what info I have gathered on this thread I'm guessing this a late 1972 rifle? Do they have any value seeing as how it's a "newer" one? As long as it is worth more than the 1100 I traded off I will be happy. Looks to be a super little rifle I can put to use here in the Missouri hardwoods with the daughter....

Any knowledge you can share my way would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Matt
Welcome to the Campfire.
Sounds like you traded a horse a piece. Good deal.
Enjoy your new rifle!


Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/22/18
By 1972 the 99DL was the only model with an aluminum buttplate. It should also have a Monte Carlo buttstock if it's a DL. Savage was phasing some models out then and it could be a composite. With Savage never say never. David
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/22/18
That's a good rifle to have right there. 243 DL's are my nemesis (to find).
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 01/22/18
I lucked out and got one three or four years ago. I don't believe I've seen another one. David
Posted By: Okiekid55 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 09/08/18
I acquired a 99E Series A in .243 Win, Serial D1099XX, with no LBC, smooth forend, no iron sights, lever safety. Has a Simmons 4-12x40 Deerfield scope with rings mounted.
Year manufactured appreciated.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 09/08/18
1979 smile
Howdy all,

Long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm hoping to tap into this vast well of Savage knowledge to determine what variant my 1971 Model 99 could be, being that there are no model markings other than "Model 99". I suspect it's a 99E, but it seems to have features that should be on other variants, namely the cartridge counter, aluminum buttplate, and fold down rear sight dovetailed into the barrel. I've searched this forum (as well as other Savage sites) high and low, yet have been unable to find info to make a definite determination. It's a 22" barrel in 243 Win.

Thanks in advance!

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Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/06/18
First off, the tang safety rules out it being an E.

Looks like one of those 'Series A' guns that are like an F without the barrel sight boss.

What is the lettering on the right side of the barrel?
Wow, that was a fast response! Thank you!

All that's on the right side of the barrel is "HI-PRESSURE STEEL - PROOF TESTED" and above that, upside down nearest the receiver is "(19)"
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/07/18
I was thinking same thing as Lightfoot. 99F stock/receiver with normal barrel rather than featherweight.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/07/18
I've seen a real late DL with the standard weight barrel. I'm pretty sure it was a 243 also. I'm thinking the lightweight barrel was phased out shortly before the F and DL were discontinued. David
Thank you for the feedback, seems that I have a mystery Model 99 on my hands.
Posted By: Morewood Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/01/18
I have one for you guys. My Dad quit hunting and passed along his old deer rifle. I'd carried it before, and loved it, and now he insists I take it. He bought it new, didn't remember what year. Maybe you can help?

Model 99 in .300 Savage. Schnabel fore end.
#7098xx
Looks like 18E stamped near the lever. Pretty worn.

Thanks!
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/01/18
1953
Posted By: Morewood Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/02/18
Thank you kindly, Jaaack.

Now that I research more I see the "E" dictates year of manufacture.
Posted By: tcassem Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 02/12/19
Just brought this bad boy home. Savage 99, serial number is 661834, cannot read the lever code, caliper is 300 Savage. Is this enough for a date of manufacture? Barrel is Chickappee.[img]https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipO72OXBK9g8ywJj2TG-qoseUPX_WCESYBl2df0K[/img]
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOtA7fkHqVeb_QN2VcuP0zY5F0k9mCPs1WrAoPB

Picture of Lever Code: https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOelVeZpWiZxQip9Oe1aActNZJ2YrObU9Q_Gyzg
New member here, my newly inherited 99 has lever code 17h serial 909xxx and 24 barrel caliber 308win any idea on year?Thank you in advance.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/03/19
The Savage date code system began in 1949 with the letter A. Just count up from there.

A=1949


H=1956
Thank you👍
Posted By: damnesia Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/03/19
Originally Posted by Muleyman45
New member here, my newly inherited 99 has lever code 17h serial 909xxx and 24 barrel caliber 308win any idea on year?Thank you in advance.


http://www.savage99.com/savage99_dates.htm
Thanks for the link.
Posted By: S99VG Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/04/19
Wow, at 8-years, 2-months and a couple weeks this thread must hold some sort of record!
Lots of questions on this 99 here. I've been reading trying to understand all the details but I can't nail down how most of them carry over to this.
Serial #7550xx 13F has a gold inlay of a bear, two deer and lever screw, no sign of caliber and the barrel looks to be 24" but I don't know where to start measuring from.. beginning of the breach I figure. As far as I can tell its never been fired.
Just found the link above for the manufacture date,, early '50s,, thanks. Not sure about caliber. where would I look for that?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/15/19
Sounds like an aftermarket upgrade job. Chambering should be stamped on the barrel, if it’s there then dang.. might remove forearm and look under it. After that you are looking at getting a chamber cast done.
on the port side:
Barrel stamp:
Savage Arms Corporation
Chincopee Falls, MA USA

Breach Stamp:
Savage Model 99
Y oh man was that lucky.. in the middle of the engraving just below the rear sight. 3/32" high numbering.
.300 Savage ??? maybe (G ? ) or G4 or 1341 maybe ?? Any idea what that could be.

on the starboard side:
just below the rear sight HI-Pressure Steel Proof Tested

I've never taken the forestock off either of the Savage 99s here. That was cool, but no stamps. Very very clean.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/15/19
This one says 250-3000 SAVAGE on the left side of the barrel, but that's where the 300 SAVAGE stamp should be.

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Agreed, and it is. I turned on my desk lamp and put on my reading glasses to take a very close look. Then while I was looking at the breach stamp the light caught the 300 very vaguely outlined. Can I post a picture from "Use Full Editor". I don't want to mess up and drop it in the wrong bit bucket.
Also today I browsed hundreds of pictures and advertisements for early 50s Savage 99. Searching for the "speck" of detail that comes after the ".300 Savage" Turns out it is some sort of moniker. This 99 has lots of oddities. The stock is nice but new to the gun. And I think it was reblued after the engraving because there is blueing in the carving. But its all good I love the rifle for what it is and it will be an heirloom shortly. The bore is nicer condition than my original that I have always taken great care of. That is a really nice .250 3000!
Posted By: CaptPablo Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/01/19
Hoping y'all can help me with a year of manufacture.

Savage 99E
.308 Winchester
Serial number: 10536xx
Lever boss: 10N
Westfield, Mass

I'm thinking it's 1962 or 1963 but can't narrow it down.

Thanks for any help you can offer. I'm thinking about trading this rifle but want to know more about it before I do.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/01/19
1962
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/01/19
Yep, should be 1962, third style. 20” barrel, non-walnut stock with no side panels, lever safety, no cartridge counter.

Good hunting rifles.

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: CaptPablo Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/01/19
Thank you!
Posted By: Stew991 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
I just picked up a savage 99 in 300 savage. These are fairly new to me except for the fact that my grandfather had one. I honestly can’t tell if this one has ever been shot. It is in perfect condition. Out of curiosity I was hoping for a little help with the year and\or model. The serial number is 4163xx. I know the lever boss codes started later but there is a 3 where the lever boss code would be. Schnable forend. Steel butt plate. Made in Utica ny. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
pictures Stew, pictures!
sounds like a very nice savage that we would all like to see.
with a picture or two you will get more info then you can hold
Originally Posted by Stew991
I just picked up a savage 99 in 300 savage. These are fairly new to me except for the fact that my grandfather had one. I honestly can’t tell if this one has ever been shot. It is in perfect condition. Out of curiosity I was hoping for a little help with the year and\or model. The serial number is 4163xx. I know the lever boss codes started later but there is a 3 where the lever boss code would be. Schnable forend. Steel butt plate. Made in Utica ny. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

It’s a 99EG made in 1946.
Sounds like a beauty! Enjoy it.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
EG from the middle of 1942. (not 1946) smile
Originally Posted by Rick99
EG from the middle of 1942. (not 1946) smile

Yea, savage99.com let me down. Shoulda listened to my brain...
Posted By: Stew991 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
Wow. Thank you very much. I will post some pictures this evening. Are there any differences in a rifle manufactured during the war. I.e. materials. Options. Value.

Also, can you still get a letter from the savage historian?
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
A letter is $65 now and from that time period I think you will just get a ship date and no other info.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
Forearm attached with a screw or a latch? A screw is an EG, a latch would be a takedown 99G.

Probably an EG.

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: Stew991 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
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I hope the picture links work. It is not a takedown. The peep sight is a marbles put on by PO. I have the original screws.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
Originally Posted by Stew991
https://ibb.co/0QbT490
https://ibb.co/tPhtvn5
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I hope the picture links work. It is not a takedown. The peep sight is a marbles put on by PO. I have the original screws.


That's in beautiful condition. Nice find.
Posted By: Stew991 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/09/19
Would it be normal to have slightly different serial numbers? The butt plate and stock are 4171xx.
Posted By: Texgunner Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/10/19
That's a very nice rifle. Congrats!
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/10/19
Originally Posted by Stew991
Would it be normal to have slightly different serial numbers? The butt plate and stock are 4171xx.

Not normal, but it does happen. I have a 1919 250-3000 Rifle that I got from 99guy. He sent away for letters from the receiver# and butt stock#. The receiver serial letter had all of the normal info. The butt stock serial said, "No rifle with that serial number ever left the factory". So, the consensus was the butt stock was original to the rifle. I forget how far off the numbers are, maybe Randy remembers. But, the larger the spread, the less likely they match. Your numbers are off by about 800, I would think that is close enough to be possible. Letters are getting expensive enough that it kind of makes the rifle have to be special to get 2 letters. Yours is definitely in nice shape, but, $130 just to get a maybe, or a no, would be your call if it is worth it.
Posted By: 99guy Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/10/19
Originally Posted by Stew991
Would it be normal to have slightly different serial numbers? The butt plate and stock are 4171xx.


Most likely factory IMO. Fit to finish looks solid. Little bit of an edge showing on the lower tang, but I think still factory

If the butt stock # doesn't letter means it didn't leave the factory on another receiver, therefore it wasn't taken off another gun by Bubba and fitted to yours.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/10/19
That close and I’d say it’s almost surely factory. What’s the odds of somebody finding a buttstock that close later on?

This gun was made while Savage was swamped with wartime production. They were likely hitting the spare parts bins to assemble any sporting arm they could because they couldn’t spare time to make new parts.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/10/19
Originally Posted by Calhoun
That close and I’d say it’s almost surely factory. What’s the odds of somebody finding a buttstock that close later on?



Remember the 99PE I have that had the wrong buttstock on it but I checked another rifle I had bought from Don's brother and it had the correct number buttstock for the PE on it? LONG ODDS!
Posted By: remedy17 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/14/19
Hi,

I just picked up a 99cd Series A in 308 Serial # C8551XX . Was this made in 1951? The butt stock has a repaired crack and needs to be refinished but it is in pretty good condition overall and I couldn't pass on it at my local gun shop for $325.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/14/19
"... # C8551XX..."

Production was in the last half of 1978.

Welcome to the Forum.
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/14/19
$325 is a good deal. The CD didn't come out till 1975, the 308 came out around 56-57. The "C" in your serial number is not the same as the "date Code Letters" . The date code is hand stamped on the front of the lever boss, where the lever hinges. It will be one or two numbers and then the letter, inside of an oval. Welcome to the club
Posted By: remedy17 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/14/19
Many thanks. The shop owner looked it up online and told me 1951. No worries, I wont be going back to ask for a refund anytime soon. smile It is going to be a good pickup gun for this fall.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/14/19
Late 1978. Savage changed to alphanumeric serial numbers in 1968. You may be confusing the C with the lever boss code used from 1949 (A) until about 1971. The lever boss code was stamped on the front of the lever boss (the protrusion that the lever pivots on). It was in an oval that contained one or two numbers (the inspector code) plus a letter designating the year produced.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/14/19
The lever date code was no longer in use by 1978, so yours won’t have one.

Good buy!
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/19
Originally Posted by remedy17
Would I be crazy to have "reboring by J E S" convert it to a 358 win? I don't see this gun be a collectable by any means.


Crazy like a fox... grin
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/16/19
If you are young and don't like your shoulder! I'd see if I could get him to sleeve it down to 22HP. Just joking, I've heard nothing but good stuff about JES.
My friend has a 303 Savage cal SRC marked 1899. the serial number has a dot (.) in the number. when I looked up the year, the instructions said to leave out the dot or comma. I ran it both ways, with the dot it said "your Savage is a 1895 !!! , without the dot, it said 1905. Just curious about the dot in the number, what was the reason for it?
thanks
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/19
They just used a dot rather than a comma. Whether that's due to European influence, or thinking a comma just looked ugly, or what.. we don't know. You'll want to run all the numbers without it, which means his is from 1905.

You did use the second box which says it's from American Rifleman, right? The main one isn't that accurate for pre-WWI Savage 1899's.
Yup, only a one year difference, 1904 and 1905. either an F or H I guess.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/19
A saddle ring carbine is a model 1899F. The 1899H didn't really come out until 1906 (tho, as always, a few date to 1905).
Posted By: SDHNTR Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/19
Ok I’ll play. I think I know the history but would love to confirm. This 99 is in .300 sav and has SN 649488 on the underside of the receiver. Says SAVAGE Model 99 just under the scope mount holes on left side of receiver. Also says .300 Savage on left side of barrel at receiver. What have I here?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/19
At that serial number range, it will be a 99EG if the forearm is thin with a curved tip (schnabel tip), or a 99R if it has a fat and wide forearm with a rounded end. The 99R was always drilled and tapped for scope bases, so I'm guessing that is what you have. Small batches of EG's show up that are factory drilled and tapped prior to 750,000 or so, so can't rule that out. Those are the only two models made in the early 50's.

Should date to 1952.
Posted By: Polecat Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/19
Originally Posted by SDHNTR
Ok I’ll play. I think I know the history but would love to confirm. This 99 is in .300 sav and has SN 649488 on the underside of the receiver. Says SAVAGE Model 99 just under the scope mount holes on left side of receiver. Also says .300 Savage on left side of barrel at receiver. What have I here?


Sounds like a 1951or 52 R. Heavy forearm with a round tip?

Lee
Posted By: SDHNTR Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/27/19
Yes. Heavy forearm, rounded. No schnabel. Thanks. You confirmed what I already thought. Early 50’s R.
Posted By: Polecat Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/28/19
SDHNTR, the LBC will give you the year. The LBC is a date code stamped on the front of the lever boss, it has a letter and number inside an oval. The letter is for the year, C for 51 and D for 52.

Lee
Just adding to the thread... in case it helps somebody else.

I have what I think (from info here) is a 1948 99R in .300 Savage. SN #5037xx, no LBC; instead, a stamped "3" or maybe part of an "8" so perhaps just an inspectors mark. Brass rotor. 24" barrel. Round forend, not particularly wide, not a Schnabel. Steel buttplate.

Came to me with 3 sets of sight. Bead up front with two folding leaves ear the rear of the barrel. A folding tang sight, works with front bead. And a Griffin & Howe removable scope sight (plate attached to the left side of the receiver) with a Weaver K2.5 inserted. (G&H told me the way they installed the scope in their earlier one-piece rings was to dismantle it, slip the rear sing on, re-mantle (?) the scope.)

I don't know the difference between the R or RS models, or whether those two models were built concurrently or not... so I've assumed R is correct.

Shoots great.

-Chris


Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/09/20
It sounds like a 1950's 99R. Is it drilled and tapped on top of the receiver for scope bases?

1950's 99RS (the Redfield 70LH peep was the add-on for the 99RS):

[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/09/20
5037XX should be a 1948 serial number, but the "new" R was not introduced until 1950, so, unless that receiver kicked around for a couple of years, something doesn't add up. A photo would be a big help.
I only guessed about the "R" part; I don't see anything other than SAVAGE MODEL 99 (in two lines) on the front receiver bridge. The forestock looks like the one in Calhoun's pic. I've never really known how people determine model types, other than by various features? This is the only 99 I've looked at closely, and I don't see anywhere where it might say R, RS, EG, F, A, C. whatever...

But otherwise, what doesn't add up... so I can re-check?

Not drilled and tapped.

The tang sight isn't at all like the peep shown in Calhoun's pic above. I should have included info on that before; don't know what model it is, but it's marked:
LYMAN
MIDDLEFIELD
CONN, U.S.A.

It's mounted on the tang, but extends well down the wrist of the stock where the hinge is.

The two folding leaves on the barrel have a wide V (taller) and a flat top with white triangle, apex at the top (shorter).

Given the G&H side-mount, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other sights aren't factory. I also have a felt lined aluminum case for the Weaver scope and detachable slide-off part of the mount. Don't know if that's a G&H thing, or weather my Grandad made it (he could have), or what...

-Chris


Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/10/20
Jaack's right on when the 1950's 99R's started. Does the forearm look like the one I posted a picture of?

You have a tang sight rather than a receiver sight. Could be a Lyman 29 1/2, Lyman 30 1/2, Lyman 1A. Not as common in the late 40's and 50's as the receiver sights like the Redfield 70LH on mine (or the Lyman 56S and Lyman 57S which were similar), but they still show up.

There are a number of tang sights to compare to yours at: http://www.savage99.com/tang_sights.htm
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/10/20
The two leaf folding rear sight sounds like a Lyman No. 6.
Posted By: Bullit312 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/11/20
I have picked a 300 up with serial#5221xxx what can anyone tell me about it
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/11/20
I think you have an extra digit in there, or the first character is actually a letter. If it's 52x,xxx then it was made in 1949 and is either a 99EG with a thin forearm with a schnabel tip, or a 99R with a fat and wide forearm with a rounded end.

Welcome to the campfire!
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/11/20
look for the oval on the front of the lever boss. that's the thing the front of the lever is attached to. It will have one or two numbers and a letter. The letter designates the year the rifle was produced. If it is a six digit serial # it will be a A for 1949 or a B for 1950. A new letter was used each year: C for 1951, D for 1952, etc.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Jaack's right on when the 1950's 99R's started. Does the forearm look like the one I posted a picture of?

You have a tang sight rather than a receiver sight. Could be a Lyman 29 1/2, Lyman 30 1/2, Lyman 1A. Not as common in the late 40's and 50's as the receiver sights like the Redfield 70LH on mine (or the Lyman 56S and Lyman 57S which were similar), but they still show up.

There are a number of tang sights to compare to yours at: http://www.savage99.com/tang_sights.htm



Ummm... yes, tang sight, sorry, that's what I meant. Lyman 1A seems plausible. It does have the locking lever. Haven't found info and pics on the 29½ or 30½ to compare. Yes, the forestock is like in your picture.



Originally Posted by Jaaack
The two leaf folding rear sight sounds like a Lyman No. 6.


Thanks; if this is a pic of the taller leaf on a #6, then that sounds right.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=nSJ8355t&id=F7567302ECC5C0A6E9DC1EA80FF692A7673B7E29&thid=OIP.nSJ8355tLKyxl4KA9fugZQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fwww.soldusa.com%2fContent%2flistingImages%2f20180303%2fca7d113d-004e-4f2a-9ba3-fa0b01becddd_fullsize.jpg&exph=416&expw=460&q=lyman+6a+sight&simid=608052878009893367&ck=E7CD47CC6C61AA78EF92AAF42CACED35&selectedIndex=13


Haven't found a decent #6 pic of the white triangle on the shorter leaf, but it looks like this:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=swDXW%2bUX&id=8E088267D6F0C79696E6864D2DD47478AD78CA61&thid=OIP.swDXW-UXtXrR4tg--cs3PQAAAA&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fi.ebayimg.com%2fimages%2fg%2fwvAAAOSw56Jek2T7%2fs-l400.jpg&exph=279&expw=400&q=lyman+6a+folding+sight&simid=607993646165132954&ck=F96FD4843E7CEBC576859CD6504C1B4D&selectedIndex=17&qpvt=lyman+6a+folding+sight&ajaxhist=0


Would these have been after-market (i.e., non-factory) installs?

-Chris


Posted By: Bullit312 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/11/20
I picked up a 300 that is serial # 5221xx what can anyone tell me about it.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/11/20
Yes, the photo with the tall leaf is a Lyman #6. It was superceded by the Lyman #16 in 1955.

The link Calhoun provided should enable you to identify the tang sight. Lyman 1A and 2A are not windage adjustable. Lyman 29 1/2 and 30 1/2 are windage adjustable. All of these tang sights were discontinued by 1955.

And yes, these sights were all after market.
Originally Posted by Jaaack
Yes, the photo with the tall leaf is a Lyman #6. It was superceded by the Lyman #16 in 1955.

The link Calhoun provided should enable you to identify the tang sight. Lyman 1A and 2A are not windage adjustable. Lyman 29 1/2 and 30 1/2 are windage adjustable. All of these tang sights were discontinued by 1955.

And yes, these sights were all after market.



Thanks; that pretty much narrows it down to the #6, the #1A (it's not windage adjustable)... and the G&H scope mount.

If all after-market, I would therefore guess that maybe all the sights/mounts were installed by G&H... or maybe some local gunsmith, but I wonder if perhaps that'd be the less likely of the two... since G&H told me the normal procedure involved taking the scope apart to slip it into the one-piece rings they used at the time (and then putting the scope back together). Hmm... or maybe Weaver did work like that back then? I could maybe learn more by asking G&H, in case they have records.

(When I asked them some years ago about how to change to a new scope, they supplied two-piece rings, but I didn't think to ask a more pointed question about whether they actually did the initial install, and if so, when... and if so, now I would ask if they installed the Lyman sights, too.)

Back to the "R" thing. I said before, I just guessed at the model, not really knowing how to identify.. Is it really an "R"? If not, what model would it be with a 1948 serial number and the rounded forend? How to tell?

-Chris



Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/12/20
"Back to the "R" thing. I said before, I just guessed at the model, not really knowing how to identify.. Is it really an "R"? If not, what model would it be with a 1948 serial number and the rounded forend? How to tell?"

One possibility is that the forearm on your rifle is not original to that rifle. The forearm, buttstock, buttplate, and frame should have matching assembly codes. Unfortunately, you have to pull the buttstock to find the assembly code on the frame. (On Utica guns serial numbers were used instead of assembly codes, so the forearm, buttstock, and buttplate numbers matched the serial number on the bottom of the receiver.)
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/12/20
The serial number was stamped on the forend, buttstock and buttplate until about 1950. It should have the serial # stamped in those places.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/12/20
If the screws on the G&H side mount are ground smooth to the mount and blued to match the mount, it was quite likely installed by G&H. If the screws aren't blued, then it was likely a gunsmith install.
Originally Posted by Jaaack

One possibility is that the forearm on your rifle is not original to that rifle. The forearm, buttstock, buttplate, and frame should have matching assembly codes. Unfortunately, you have to pull the buttstock to find the assembly code on the frame. (On Utica guns serial numbers were used instead of assembly codes, so the forearm, buttstock, and buttplate numbers matched the serial number on the bottom of the receiver.)


Are you meaning that the only model made in 1948 was the EG with the schnabel forend? Anyway, see next...


Originally Posted by wyo1895
The serial number was stamped on the forend, buttstock and buttplate until about 1950. It should have the serial # stamped in those places.


I've had the forend and buttstock off the rifle in the past, for some detailed cleaning. All the numbers match.


Originally Posted by Calhoun
If the screws on the G&H side mount are ground smooth to the mount and blued to match the mount, it was quite likely installed by G&H. If the screws aren't blued, then it was likely a gunsmith install.


Flush and blued. Thanks for that tip.

-Chris
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/13/20
it sounds like you have a "with Savage never say never" which is cool.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/13/20
Any chance of a couple pictures of the entire rifle? Upload to the image gallery?

The 1948 pricelist for Savage lists the 99EG, 99R and 99RS. However.. we only ever see 99EG's show up. So this a very interesting gun. If it is a rounded forearm, I'd almost expect it to be a 1930's style 99R. But a 99RT isn't out of the question if somebody found an old forearm that hadn't been used, or it might even have shipped late and be a 1950's 99R.

Need to see the gun.

Here's a 1930's style 99R:

[Linked Image from savagefest.net]

1950's style 99R:

[Linked Image from savagefest.net]
I'll give pictures a try:

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Looks more like your '30s pic, I think. The vertical line up near the tip of the forend is similar. Swivel mount placement is slightly different, though. As shown, the set-up weighs approx 8½-lbs, unloaded.

I've asked G&H if they have records for work done back then. Won't know for a while if they have time to look, are willing to look, have records to review, etc.

They did supply me with their newer two-piece scope rings for the side mount, some number of years ago, don't remember exactly when that was. It lets me easily swap in a Leupold 1.5-5x20, brighter and with a much more visible reticle than the original Weaver K2.5 (which isn't horrible in the first place). I'd almost be tempted to leave the Leupold on there most of the time, but the black aluminum doesn't look all that great compared to the original Weaver blued steel.

There's a "story" about the Weaver. The first year I used this rifle for deer hunting in upstate PA... the top half of the scope mount, with scope, dismounted itself while I was trudging out to find a likely place to stand. Got to the stand, discovered the scope missing, had a heart attack (Grandad's rifle!), back-tracked myself, found the scope and mount... in the road, with tire tracks over it. Gak! Anyway, that explains the couple of "dimples" in the scope, from tire studs. Still works fine, though. Took me almost all day to calm down after that, I think...

-Chris






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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/14/20
The G&H looks aftermarket, the screws aren't ground down and blued to blend in with the receiver.

But... That isn't just a 99R, with the studs that seems be a 99RS. It is the 1930's style of 99RS, and if all parts number I'm pretty sure it's the latest one we have information on. That's cool! It probably didn't originally have the tang sight, it probably had a Redfield 70LH receiver sight - but that had to go when the G&H scope mount was put on.

The 99RS was different from the 99R by having sling studs with a flat bottom, sling swivels and sling, and a peep sight.

SWEET! That's a new one, it being above 500,000. It answers the question of what was Savage sending out as R's for those couple of years.

Here's a 1930's 99RS without swivels or sling:

[Linked Image from savagefest.net]
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/14/20
Here's a picture of Keith's 99T with a factory installed G&H side mount. As you can see, the screws are all but invisible. They charged a pretty penny for the install..

Heck, you can STILL get this mount for a Savage 99. They still make it. Probably about $1400 for the mount and mounting it.

[Linked Image]
Ah. I misunderstood what you meant earlier about the G&H mount screws. Yep, quite a difference between what I thought was "ground down and blued" versus almost invisible as in your pic.

So not factory (Savage) or G&H installed. I can think of who might have done (or commissioned) the work locally back then, but they're out of business so no way to follow up on that. I did get an answer from G&H, but they only were able to say they don't have records from that far back.

I guess if the Lyman #1A was installed because of the scope (makes sense), then I imagine it would have been mounted in the same tang screws used for the original Redfield sight.

I didn't think to remove the slink to better illustrate the sling swivel studs, but they are indeed flat, as in your pic. The sling itself is also original.


Originally Posted by Calhoun

SWEET! That's a new one, it being above 500,000. It answers the question of what was Savage sending out as R's for those couple of years.

Here's a 1930's 99RS without swivels or sling:


I'm a little unclear what your meant by "sending out as R's for those couple of years."

I thought you were leaning toward mine being an RS? Or did they not catalog an RS in 1948? So this might be the 1948 version of an R, instead? Or...?

-Chris


Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/15/20
Originally Posted by Ranger4444
I'm a little unclear what your meant by "sending out as R's for those couple of years."

I thought you were leaning toward mine being an RS? Or did they not catalog an RS in 1948? So this might be the 1948 version of an R, instead? Or...?

-Chris

Savage catalogued both the 99R and 99RS from 1932 to 1959. But there's a few post-WW2 years where we see only 99EG's - and truthfully we usually say they made no 99R/99RS's for those years.

Now.. yours might just be using up a leftover stock. But, it's the highest serial number prewar style 99R/99RS that I think I have data on. And would point toward Savage making the prewar style 99R/99RS's for any sales rather than the postwar 99R/99RS's that early.

And when I said 99R above, I meant both 99R/99RS. The 99RS is just a 99R with a few accessories - the stock style is the same.
Ah. I see, sorta... Thanks.

In your pics (above) of a '30s-style 99R versus a '50-style 99R... the differences I can make out seem to be a jeweled bolt?, a different checkering pattern on the forestock?, and the absence of the vertical line on the forestock? Anything else?

Mine is definitely like the earlier one...

-Chris
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/15/20
The 1950's 99R/99RS is totally different forearm. The forearm is wider, with slant outs in front of the receiver. Most don't have a jewelled bolt, that came late in the 50's. A different checkering pattern, yes, and different studs for the RS. All 99R/99RS's in the 50's came with sling eyes intended for use with swivel hooks to attach the sling, and they all came drilled and tapped from the factory with standard screws for mounting scope bases and with the "SAVAGE MODEL 99" stamp on top of the receiver stamped to the side to make room for the scope base screws.

1953 99RS forearm:

[Linked Image from live.staticflickr.com]
OK. I can confirm no slant-outs on this one, and the forend doesn't seem especially wide to me; width flows from the size of the receiver. The SAVAGE/MODEL 99 mark is right in the center of the forward bridge.

Thanks again for all the info. Feel free to PM me if there are any more details you might want for your records and your book and so forth.

-Chris
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/16/20
Thank you for bringing it over. We still have a year and a half gap between your prewar style and the 1950's style 99R, but the gap continues to narrow.
Posted By: yukon7x57 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/17/20
I've just received a 99F. The lever boss stamp is unreadable. The serial is 773650 Ballpark year?
Thanks!
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/17/20
1956
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/17/20
My data would show very late 1955, but any individual rifle can be months later the serial number range. So late '55 or early '56.
Posted By: yukon7x57 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/18/20
Great thanks guys. If it shoots alright I will take it sheep hunting this fall.
Posted By: CoopVA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
Hello everyone. I’ve got a 99 with a serial number that dates it to 1920, 2132XX, and I’m trying to figure out what model it is. It is a Takedown chambered in 250-3000. It has the thin schnable forend with a pistol grip stock, uncheckered. Both forend and stock are stamped with the full SN. I’ve been told it is probably a G that had the furniture replaced with a prewar set... Any ideas?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
Welcome to the campfire!

That serial is a bit to low for a 99G, so if it’s in 250-3000 then it will be a second version of the Savage 1899 model 250-3000. It should be a takedown and have a pistol grip, but it should also be checkered. If fact, the second version of the 250-3000 looked exactly like the early 99G’s.

I would guess your checkering got sanded off when somebody refinished the stock. It happens.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
I know this has been discussed before, but when did Savage begin stamping the model designation on the front of the frame?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
You mean on the front, like the E G?

Not sure we have a hard start date. Sometime in the 1920's.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
Yes. The earliest I have is a 1925 99 D, #2704XX, which is stamped with an “S”.
Posted By: CoopVA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
Thanks Calhoun!
Originally Posted by Jaaack
I know this has been discussed before, but when did Savage begin stamping the model designation on the front of the frame?


Originally Posted by Calhoun
You mean on the front, like the E G?

Not sure we have a hard start date. Sometime in the 1920's.


Originally Posted by Jaaack
Yes. The earliest I have is a 1925 99 D, #2704XX, which is stamped with an “S”.



Wait! What?

So the model designation is stamped on the frame, and all I had to do is look? Where is "on the front of the frame"? Under the forearm? It's been years since I had the forearm off... but I don't remember seeing anything like E, G, R. RS, etc. anywhere on the rifle...

-Chris
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
Yes, you have to remove the forearm to see the marking on the front of the frame. But, as Calhoun stated above, we don't know exactly when Savage started doing this, so your rifle may not be marked. My 1919 Model 250-3000, #208XXX is not marked.
Originally Posted by Jaaack
Yes, you have to remove the forearm to see the marking on the front of the frame. But, as Calhoun stated above, we don't know exactly when Savage started doing this, so your rifle may not be marked. My 1919 Model 250-3000, #208XXX is not marked.


OK, I removed the forearm and checked. This is (still) serial # 5037xx discussed above. There's an X on the flat just forward of where the rotor screws inside the receiver. The X is very exact but also very stark, two very thin and straight crossed lines... not like the relatively fat "font" characters from the (stamped?) barrel markings. (Maybe the X is etched, not stamped?)

I need to correct something I said earlier. The forearm itself has no markings, no serial number, etc. (My old notes are apparently not as clear as what I thought I remembered.)

-Chris




Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/20/20
Yeah, the model 1899's never had any model designation stamped on them.

The 99's started up with it after a few years in the mid-20's, but even then it's not 100%. That continued until about the time they went o Chicopee Falls in 1947. Some models get the letter, so G for 99G, E G for 99EG, T for 99T, but others get another identifier - such as 99R or 99RS usually get an 8.
So "X" is... ?

Are those other letters stamped? In a likely "typeface" or "font" with some body to it? My "X" is very clearly an X, very clearly done precisely and on purpose, but not at all what I've had expected...

Maybe something changed after the 1947 move?

-Chris
A pic of the "X":

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Along with some stray fuzz from a Q-Tip...

The barrel does say Chicopee Falls...

-Chris






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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/21/20
Thanks for the update on the barrel address. That's an odd place to be stamped X.. but it's just an assembly stamp to the best of our knowledge.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/21/20
I don't have data showing at what serial the Chicopee barrel address became common after the move. Serial 513xxx is first I have with info.
This ties to the other posting on late R/RS's.

We need to know what the butt plate on 5037xx looks like to determen if the butt is an R or EG. Also, " The forearm itself has no markings, no serial number, etc." so the forearm might have been changed sometime after the factory.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Thanks for the update on the barrel address. That's an odd place to be stamped X.. but it's just an assembly stamp to the best of our knowledge.


Something like "this receiver is ready for the next step" or some such? Makes sense...


Originally Posted by Rick99

We need to know what the butt plate on 5037xx looks like to determen if the butt is an R or EG. Also, " The forearm itself has no markings, no serial number, etc." so the forearm might have been changed sometime after the factory.


Here's a pic of the butt plate:

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5037xx is 4.86" tall, 1.6" wide.

I've had this in my possession since approx '74 when my Grandad first let me use it to hunt whitetail in PA... excepting our short tour in Germany in early '80s. When he first gave it to me, he told me all the reasons why the M99 was better than a Winchester M94 and all the reasons why the .300 Savage was better than the .30-30. smile

I don't have previous history, but I never knew him to buy "used" stuff so would assume this was purchased new, and likely at Em-Roe's Sporting Goods in downtown Indianapolis. He apparently had no qualms about schnabel foreends, since he also had a Winchester M70 Featherweight with a schnabel... so I doubt he would have changed anything from original... or at least as it was when he got it.

Did the various model letters have additional meaning? R = rifle? RS = rifle with extra sights? E = Excellent? EG = Excellent Gun? H = Hot Stuff? Et cetera? smile

-Chris





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99CD Series A

Serial No. C5150XX
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/22/20
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
99CD Series A

Serial No. C5150XX

Made in the summer of 1977, Gringo.
Thank you sir.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/22/20
Maybe this will shed some light on the above questions.

99EG, 250-3000, serial #5027xx, Chidcopee barrel address.

rifles with the model # stamped on the front of the receiver:
99K serial #2986xx, yes. 99G serial # 2909xx doesn't have the model designation on the front of the receiver;
99A serial # 3209xx yes;
99F serial # 3285xx, yes;
99EG serial #3460xx, yes, looking from the muzzle down on the front of the receiver, the E is stamped on the left and the G on the right;
99T serial #3729xx, yes on the left side of the receiver looking down from the muzzle. The K, A, and F have the model designation stamped on the right side.

The 99R has a bigger buttplate and buttstock where the buttplate attaches, here is some info
pre war 99R, serial #3906xx, width at the middle: 1.689", height 5.060"
pre war 99 EG serial #3947xx, width: 1.516", height 4.830, post war EG serial #5027xx is essentially the same;
post war 99R, serial #5739xx, width: 1.703", height 5.066"
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/22/20
Another prewar 99R 377,8xx is 4.99" tall, 1.66" wide.
5037xx is 4.86" tall, 1.6" wide.

-Chris
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/23/20
I think that is a 50's style EG butt stock. That would make since given the serial. How it got the prewar RS forearm and sling is anyone's guess.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/23/20
Originally Posted by Rick99
I think that is a 50's style EG butt stock. That would make since given the serial. How it got the prewar RS forearm and sling is anyone's guess.

Which brings up the question, where would an average guy even find an un-numbered prewar 99R forearm?

Any replacement from another 99 would have had serial numbers.

Only place to get an un-numbered forearm would be from the factory.
Where exactly would the numbers appear of the forestock, if there were any? And what would they look like, how big, etc.?

I've just re-looked with a glass, but... there's some significant oil build-up (probably 'cause I wasn't bright enough to store muzzle down until starting about 20 years ago)... and I'm not seeing/recognizing numbers...

-Chris
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/23/20
They would either be stamped on the end of the buttstock that fits to the receiver, or in the barrel channel. Sometimes they do get hard to see/read.

One with assembly codes on the end:

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One with serial number in the channel:

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Thanks. Mine's got neither of those, then...

Also, it's only attached toward the front with a single machine screw through a bushing and into a post on the barrel underside. No additional metal stuff like in your lower pic. The other end is like your top pic, so that the smaller round bit fits inside the receiver for support there...

-Chris
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/24/20
The upper pic is of a solid frame forend, the lower of a takedown.
Ah. That 'splains, thanks.

-Chris
Posted By: Burntside Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/31/20
I have a 99C Series A 308 serial number E3546XX. Can someone tell me when it was manufactured?
Posted By: CoopVA Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/15/20
Calhoun, While making the takedown forearm release button, in looking closer, I noticed that the forearm does have some very faint checkering lines in it.If I hold it up to the light at the right angle, you can tell that it was checkered. From the finish, it looks like the checkering was sanded down and refinished... I do believe i have an original set of furniture.
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/15/20
Originally Posted by Burntside
I have a 99C Series A 308 serial number E3546XX. Can someone tell me when it was manufactured?


Late 1984. Sorry to be so slow with a reply.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/15/20
Originally Posted by CoopVA
Calhoun, While making the takedown forearm release button, in looking closer, I noticed that the forearm does have some very faint checkering lines in it.If I hold it up to the light at the right angle, you can tell that it was checkered. From the finish, it looks like the checkering was sanded down and refinished... I do believe i have an original set of furniture.

Yep, was almost sure of it when you said the numbers were stamped on it. It'll shoot just fine without the checkering. grin
I have acquired a 20" barrel, .25-35 with the serial number 426XX. From what i have been able to gather, this is from the early 1900's. It has had the stock replaced, but the original fore end came with the rifle (it has the matching serial number on it). The profile of the original fore end matches the replacement.

What year was it produced and what model do I have?

Also, it has two holes in the tang, but they do not appear to be tapped. I assume these were for a tang sight?

Thanks for any help you can give me.



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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/26/20
BingsCorner, welcome to the campfire!

By serial number, your rifle dates should date to early October, 1903 - but you need to know that rifles weren't finished in serial number order and any given rifle could be delayed by months or even a year. But October, 1903 is a good bet.

The model is tougher to know. The gun has been modified a lot.It probably started life as a model 1899A with a 26" barrel, or a model 1899A SR (Short Rifle) with a 22" barrel. As you can see, either way the barrel was probably cut down to 20".

The holes in the tang are for a tang sight, and they should be threaded. If you take a look at savage99.com, he has a page with common tang sights found on Savage 1899's.
Thank you very much. I appreciate the information. I plan to have a lot of fun with this rifle.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/26/20
The tang holes should have plug screws in them. The thread is 8-40.
I will take care of that, or possibly add a tang sight. I was concerned because the holes expose the action to dirt.

I am not surprised if it was modified. This was a ranch rifle and probably never saw a safe. It was carried in saddle scabbards and behind the seat of a pickup probably most of its life. Not pretty at this point, but in good shape mechanically and has a good bore.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/26/20
Originally Posted by BingsCorner
I will take care of that, or possibly add a tang sight. I was concerned because the holes expose the action to dirt.

I am not surprised if it was modified. This was a ranch rifle and probably never saw a safe. It was carried in saddle scabbards and behind the seat of a pickup probably most of its life. Not pretty at this point, but in good shape mechanically and has a good bore.

If it's got a good bore, then have fun with it. There's nothing wrong with guns that have been used for what they were made for and still work.
After looking at it closer, the lever appears to have been bent. It has marks on it like it was hammered just behind the trigger guard and I have never seen pictures of a 99 with a lever quite that shape. Was it likely that this gun started out as a straight grip?

Also any idea what the cut on the top of the front receiver ring is for in the attached photo?

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/26/20
Lever has definitely been bent. Early rifles at that time had an almost straight lever even if the rifle had a factory pistol grip added. The buttstock is a replacement, so somebody was trying to fit the lever to it is my guess.

I have no idea why the cut is on the front receiver ring.
Good to know. Thanks for your excellent insight.
Just bought a 99 # 4239xx lbc 3. 300 savage.d & t for weaver bases with weaver rings and a old jc Higgins 6x (weaver). Tight no stock cracks rear dovetail plugged no frt sight or holes for it barrel length 21.5". What model is it? Utica address on barrel. Schnabel forend. Mb
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/29/20
It’s almost certainly an EG that has had the barrel cut from 24 inches to its current length.
Figured the barrel was bobbed. When do you think it was made? Thanks for giving me a hand. MB
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/29/20
Early 1944 per David’s book.
Thanks jaaack appreciate it. The rifle had the butt and plate replaced with 4247xx, the forend is original and had a crack back to the forend screw but repaired, it is not really nice as condition goes you can tell it got used. I am sure it could tell some stories.I'll sight it in. Shoot it some, allways wanted one to hunt with for the experience of using a 99. Probably got screwed had to pay 325 for it.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 08/30/20
If it's a solid frame with a thin forearm with a schnabel tip, EG for sure. There are a few oddballs that show up in that range, but very few.
Exactly as you describe it. Gave it a shot of wipeout and let it sit a few minutes patched it out. Took 4 shots to get within an inch of my target center on the 50 yard butt. Was using 150 gr WW Power Pts. Will put some 3031 and 150 grain sierras together for it. See what it will do. MB
Originally Posted by Calhoun
The G&H looks aftermarket, the screws aren't ground down and blued to blend in with the receiver.

But... That isn't just a 99R, with the studs that seems be a 99RS. It is the 1930's style of 99RS, and if all parts number I'm pretty sure it's the latest one we have information on. That's cool! It probably didn't originally have the tang sight, it probably had a Redfield 70LH receiver sight - but that had to go when the G&H scope mount was put on.

The 99RS was different from the 99R by having sling studs with a flat bottom, sling swivels and sling, and a peep sight.

SWEET! That's a new one, it being above 500,000. It answers the question of what was Savage sending out as R's for those couple of years.

Here's a 1930's 99RS without swivels or sling:


Revisiting this from above... It occurs to me another thing to check is about where the tang is drilled/tapped for the sight. If the RS models had a Redfield 70LH receiver sight... would the factory drilled/tapped screw holes have exactly matched the Lyman 1A?

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The front of the Lyman base starts at approx .70" behind the "cocked" indicator, and the two holes in the Lyman base are approx 1.15" apart...

-Chris

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Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/02/20
The tang holes on all 1895's/1899's/99's from 1895 through 1959 were exactly identically placed by the factory. The sights from different manufacturers were made specifically for the Savage 99 family and would fit any of them up to 1959. From 1960 on, the tang holes disappeared but all rifles were d&t for scope bases.

So the Redfield and Lyman would both fit.
Thanks, I appreciate that confirmation!

I checked sights the other day, starting with the original Weaver K2.5 (some slight adjustment), then the tang sight (inch low, 1½" left), then ending with the newer Leupold 1.5-5x. Might get one more hunt in with it, this year. Have to admit, the stock shape isn't perfect for use with scope, even less perfect for use with scope from the bench. Still, I got 'er done...

I'm afraid I'm having to admit it's getting on toward time for some estate planning, evaluation, eventual solution with no heirs etc... <sigh>...

-Chris
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/03/20
Shooting older 99's with scopes takes a bit of getting used to due to the low comb, but folks have been doing it for 120 years. It's doable. Take pics from the hunt!
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Shooting older 99's with scopes takes a bit of getting used to due to the low comb, but folks have been doing it for 120 years. It's doable. Take pics from the hunt!



Yep, true enough. I've had it for something like 46-ish years, almost always use a scope instead of the tang sight or the folding rear sights... and the deer didn't know the difference. Just haven't done much off the bench with it, so the session earlier this week reminded me about all that.

-Chris
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
I found this rusted solid in my Aunty's basement. I asked her if I could have it. After showing some of my family the work I'm doing to it I found out that it was my grandfather's till he gave it to my father and he the left it at my grandparents house and when they passed away my aunt grabbed it. Its marked with a C on the lever.

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Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
All of the blueing came off while removing the rust pits. I'll be engraving the receiver once the butt stock and stack are done. I've also cleaned and plan on using the original bushnell scope.
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
Wow!
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
The butt stock has had some slight fire damage as well but I'm not picky. I'll just carve out the chared stuff.

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Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
Does anyone know what year the .308 winchester was chambered in the 99? I'm trying to narrow down what this is chambered in and I know that I can load and easily eject a full magazine of savage 300 but I don't know if there are similar rounds for this year. I think it's 1952.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
Originally Posted by ROUS
Does anyone know what year the .308 winchester was chambered in the 99? I'm trying to narrow down what this is chambered in and I know that I can load and easily eject a full magazine of savage 300 but I don't know if there are similar rounds for this year. I think it's 1952.

308/243/358 requires a receiver with a serial number over 900,000. Earlier receivers won't fit the longer 308 family of cartridges in the rotary magazine. 1952 would be just 300 Savage and 250 Savage rifles.
Posted By: JeffG Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
Originally Posted by ROUS
Does anyone know what year the .308 winchester was chambered in the 99? I'm trying to narrow down what this is chambered in and I know that I can load and easily eject a full magazine of savage 300 but I don't know if there are similar rounds for this year. I think it's 1952.




***!!! Do a cero-SAFE chamber cast to determine the correct cartridge!!!***
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
Thank you so much. I'll do that.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/12/20
If it's a 1952 Savage 99 with a 600,000 range serial number, it can only have left the factory as a 250-3000 or a 300 Savage.

If you can't read the stamp on the barrel... I doubt the barrel is any good. But all you have to do is slug it and see if it's a .257" bore, or a .308* bore.
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/20
I'm going to pick up a slug on my next trip to sportsman's. I know I have to get it figured out before I shoot it. I was just getting antsy and wanted to send a few down range. I hope the barrel works well enough. Did all of the barrels have stamps?
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/20
My clumsy thumb hit 1952 but I meant 1951.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/20
Yes, all the factory barrels would have the cartridge stamped on the left side in front of the receiver. There should also be a barrell address on top of the barrel about halfway down saying SAVAGE ARMS .. CHICOPEE FALLS .. etc.

You can see "300 SAV" right in front of the receiver on this early 1950's 99R.

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From 1946 to 1954, 300 SAV and 250-3000 were the only choices available in the Savage 99's. Anything with serial number from 500,000 to 770,000 will be one of those (and the handful of 800,000 serial number rifles that exist). From 900,000 on they could handle 243/308/358, then over 1,000,000 you start seeing 284's, then with serial numbers starting with a letter you eventually get 22-250, 7mm08 and 375.

PS: If you have an old fishing weight around, that can work for slugging the bore.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/13/20
The 1895's and early 1899's had the caliber stamped either as part of the barrel address or on top of the barrel near the receiver ring. The caliber is also part of the barrel address on some of the really late rifles (1980's)
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/14/20
Thank you for your guidance. That helps a lot.
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/14/20
This may sound silly but I haven't hunted since I was a child so I haven't really hunted yet. This information you provided gets me one step closer to harvesting my first deer. Thanks again. I'm going to slug it even though I'm almost certain it's a 300 savage.
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/14/20
I'll finnish engraving and dialing in the scope by next year so I can hunt then. I'll post updates here when it's done cause I wanna show it off to people who like the 99s.
Posted By: Flipper45 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/21/20
Hello...I wanted to ask if anyone may be able to give me some details about a mark on my recently acquired model 1899?
It's a carbine, just less than 20" barrel, chambered in 30-30, sn# 2756XX. The website savage99 says that the manufacture date was 1925, based on the sn#. The stamp on the top of the barrel reads, "Manufactured by Savage Arms Corp. Utica, NY USA," and over the chamber, "Savage 1899 model." The internal rotary mechanism is brass, along with the chamber indicator, and the front sight and rear butt plate are consistent with the date of manufacture given by savage99.
However, there is a very small "K" at the front of the lever boss code area. There is no sign of any circle, partial or otherwise, and the typesetting of the "K" appears much different from images of later, typical lever boss codes. Is this a technician's mark, from assembly? Does it indicate a special run from 1925? Perhaps for a specific retailer?
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/21/20
You have a second version Model 99-H. Yes, production was 1925. The K is just an inspectors mark which was typical on earlier rifles.

There should be a second address line: "July 25,... June 1, 1909". Correct?

Is your stock walnut or non-walnut?

Welcome to the Fire!
Posted By: Flipper45 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 10/21/20
Thank you, Rick!
Yes, the second line is there, just as you typed it...I didn't include it earlier for brevity's sake. The stock appears to be walnut, and original. My guess is that the rifle stood in a closet (or a series of them) for most of Its life. The butt plate has a shiny halo around the top curve from where it must have been stood up, leaning against the back wall of a closet, while that curve was pressed into a carpet or rug. The rest of the plate shows the expected patina of air-exposed metal. All the screws are pristine and the bluing of the receiver and lever are likewise, pristine. And there is no indication of pooling of oil or cleaner residue in the bottom of the action.
I have an M-1917 s&w 45ACP, built in 1917. It has been continuously fired, cleaned, and maintained since my grandfather 'got' it in the Army during the 1930s. That gun has wear and tear, this 99, doesn't.
Do you have any idea what a model like this is worth, or any resources where I might find a ballpark appraisal? Is there any kind of standardized valuation for 99s of this vintage-given that condition is always the determining factor?
Thank you, again!
Posted By: ROUS Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/16/20

Thank you again Calhoun. It was a 300 sav and I've already dialed in the scope. I was picking the pigeons off at around 200 yrds and the other guys around me kinda fell in love with, what they called the old cowboy rifle. One of the younger guys dialing in a new ak 47 said "I want an old cowboy gun!" Im sure ill be needing your guidance again soon cause I think well be seeing more savages in our group of shooters soon.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/16/20
Glad to help out and to hear that you got things figured out. They are a fun gun to shoot, accurate and not a pain to the shoulder at all.
Model G ? 369,2xx / 250-3000

Model EG ? 393,4xx / 300 Savage

Model EG ? 518,2xx / 300 Savage

Model EG ? 645,6xx / 300 Savage

Model EG ? 835,1xx / 300 Savage

Model F ? 951,2xx / 300 Savage

Model F ? 922,9xx / 243 WCF

Model H ? 342,6xx / 30-30 WCF
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/20
bulkie, are you asking for dates for those?
Yes please .

I'm pretty sure I have the models correct according to Murray's third edition , however I still put a question mark next to it .
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/20
Originally Posted by bulkie_roll
Model G ? 369,2xx / 250-3000 1937

Model EG ? 393,4xx / 300 Savage 1940

Model EG ? 518,2xx / 300 Savage 1948/1949

Model EG ? 645,6xx / 300 Savage 1952

Model EG ? 835,1xx / 300 Savage 1953 probably

Model F ? 951,2xx / 300 Savage 1957

Model F ? 922,9xx / 243 WCF 1956

Model H ? 342,6xx / 30-30 WCF 1933
Wow okay , took me longer at Burger King .

All the dates you specified is exactly what I kind of guesstimated using Murray's third edition , and you guys here . However I did not know the approximate year the 800, 000 serial numbered rifle would date .

The only lever boss code I have written down is the 800,000 serial EG in 300 Savage. The lever boss code is 3E . I can get the other lever boss codes for the rifles in the above post by Monday or Tuesday of next week for your records .

You didn't need any of the other post-World war II lever boss codes ?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/20
I used years based on serial number ranges. Rifles weren't produced in serial number order, and any given rifle might be months later than other rifles in that same range. So if you have lever date codes, it's best to go with those. Most will probably match up with the years I gave you - but you might have a couple that are off. We always appreciate more data if you want to share date codes when you get a chance.
Sorry I almost forgot to mention that the 645k rifle and the 835k rifle both have the color case hardened rotors .
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 11/25/20
Originally Posted by bulkie_roll
Sorry I almost forgot to mention that the 645k rifle and the 835k riflevboth have the color case hardened rotors .

Nice! There's only 500'ish rifles made in the 800,000 range, so that one's a bit special - even though they seem to be identical to other rifles made at the same time. If you ever see a difference on it, let us know!
Hello All! Awesome thread; tons of knowledge.

I could use some help. smile

My Dad’s Savage:
serial number C3890XX
.308
24 inch octagon barrel
checkered grip & forearm
top tang safety
removable magazine/clip with push button on side of receiver

Two questions:

1). I can’t find the model # anywhere on the gun (did not take apart)
thinking it is a 99C or 99DL..... any idea?

2). Any insights/knowledge into the octagon barrel..... limited edition in 1977, perhaps?

Thank you!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/08/20
Originally Posted by AimSmallMissSmall
Hello All! Awesome thread; tons of knowledge.

I could use some help. smile

My Dad’s Savage:
serial number C3890XX
.308
24 inch octagon barrel
checkered grip & forearm
top tang safety
removable magazine/clip with push button on side of receiver

Two questions:

1). I can’t find the model # anywhere on the gun (did not take apart)
thinking it is a 99C or 99DL..... any idea?

2). Any insights/knowledge into the octagon barrel..... limited edition in 1977, perhaps?

Thank you!

Welcome to the campfire!

Your dad's rifle is one of a small set of uncatalogued 99C rifles that were made with leftover octagon barrels from the 75th Anniversary Model 1895 rifles. By serial number, your rifle dates to February, 1977. Not many of them around.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by AimSmallMissSmall
Hello All! Awesome thread; tons of knowledge.

I could use some help. smile

My Dad’s Savage:
serial number C3890XX
.308
24 inch octagon barrel
checkered grip & forearm
top tang safety
removable magazine/clip with push button on side of receiver

Two questions:

1). I can’t find the model # anywhere on the gun (did not take apart)
thinking it is a 99C or 99DL..... any idea?

2). Any insights/knowledge into the octagon barrel..... limited edition in 1977, perhaps?

Thank you!

Welcome to the campfire!

Your dad's rifle is one of a small set of uncatalogued 99C rifles that were made with leftover octagon barrels from the 75th Anniversary Model 1895 rifles. By serial number, your rifle dates to February, 1977. Not many of them around.

Thank you Calhoun! Mystery solved. 😀. We appreciate it.

Just curious..... is the model most likely metal-stamped somewhere on it, if disassembled?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/08/20
Originally Posted by AimSmallMissSmall
Just curious..... is the model most likely metal-stamped somewhere on it, if disassembled?

No.. the majority of Savage 1895/1899/99 models weren't stamped with the model name. It has to be deduced by the features usually. Sometimes they were, often they weren't. If yours was, it would probably be in the barrel address. But since the barrel came from another model, it probably doesn't say 99C in it.
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Originally Posted by AimSmallMissSmall
Just curious..... is the model most likely metal-stamped somewhere on it, if disassembled?

No.. the majority of Savage 1895/1899/99 models weren't stamped with the model name. It has to be deduced by the features usually. Sometimes they were, often they weren't. If yours was, it would probably be in the barrel address. But since the barrel came from another model, it probably doesn't say 99C in it.

Very interesting! Thank you so much
Asking mfg date for a friend . . . 4026xx
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/09/20
Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Asking mfg date for a friend . . . 4026xx

Should be 1941.
Hello to all new member here I have a model 99 e serial no B 9922xx if you could help me with the manufacture date that would be great I really enjoy this site and thread thank you
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/10/20
1975
Posted By: dustycuss Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/12/20
Needing help determining age. Of a 99 Savage 303

Straight grip, 26"round barrel, schnabel, serial # 2243xx. Anyone know the DOB?
Also trying to find out what is the correct front sight. The one in this gun looks like a replacement.

Thanks
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/12/20
1920

1899-A

Rock Mountain, Savage 22B

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My beloved Savage 99 EG, serial number 7428xx...just checking on the age. Trigger boss letter code is woefully gone-- all that can be discerned is the slightest "C" shape of the oval and a faint numeral "1." So that doesn't seem like much help.

From its heritage as a family piece, I'd guess it's from early to mid 50's. In any case, a great gun! Folding Lyman rear sight, Lyman tang sight, and a Leupold M8-4x scope on a swing mount. (Of all these, I generally use the tang mount for these old eyes. But nice to have them all zeroed in. .300 Savage.

Seems like there's always been venison in the freezer since I took over its ownership in 1984. It once had an ancient leather sling added by my grandfather. Apparently he was better suited to keeping it quiet while drawing down on a near deer. Spooked a big buck that way years ago, and I think that sling is still out in the Northern Michigan woods to this day.

Nice to have found your site. I'll shut up now!
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 12/14/20
1954

Thank you, Rick. Just about what I thought.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
What year would a 99 with a serial 10798xx be? It’s a 284, new to me, like new except for a pad.

Thank you in advance
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
If you look on the front of the lever above the serial number, you should see an oval stamp with 1 or 2 numbers followed by a letter. The letter indicates the year. By my data, your rifle should be a 1964 and the letter should be an "R".

Cut checkering, or pressed checkering?
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
Thank you, looks cut to me, will look better when I get home and for the stamps.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
It seems too high for cut checkering, I've got one very near that one. Should be pressed "double diamond" checkering. The double diamond checkering was only used on 99F's and 99DL's for a year, and is fairly popular. But never say never with Savage.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
It looked cut, but it wasn’t Al Biesen quality of checkering. I hate to ask, but what difference does it make if it’s cut or pressed? I took a couple of quick pics last night. I’d post them, but Postimage must be down.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
99's in 284 that are cut checkered are very, very few and far between. The 284's were introduced right before the switch to the double diamond checkering. So from a collector point of view, a cut checkered 99F or 99DL in 284 is one of those rare guns you'd like to add to your collection.

The double diamond checkered rifles are also popular, but more common than the cut checkered.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
Thank you,

Damn shame a pad was added.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
Originally Posted by hanco
Thank you,

Damn shame a pad was added.

Mine that is very close to yours is sitting a few feet away.. with a pad. It's a shame.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
It was on GunBroker for four or five days early last week, 1800 opening bid, buy it now for 2400. It didn’t get a bid until the last day of 1800.00. I probably paid too much, but wanted it mostly because it had been shot little, less than a box of shells. The seller claimed it had been sitting in his safe since 1966. I’m gonna compare it to the other F’s I have. What kind of buttplate came on the rifle, maybe they added a pad, didn’t cut the stock. I guess that would be too cool to be true. Are stocks numbered to the rifle??

Thanks again for all the information, 99’s keep sneaking in my house!!! Roy warned me!!!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
At that point they didn't stamp serial numbers on the different parts, but they were stamping an assembly code on them. So the same code would be on the buttstock (probably missing if it was cut for a recoil pad), on the forearm, and above the lever on the left side (have to remove buttstock to see it). A 99F at that time would have had a steel buttplate. If the end of the buttstock is straight where the pad is attached, it was cut, the steel buttplate would have been slightly curved.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/11/21
It looks like it’s stamped 10R, stock is straight, so it’s been cut.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
Jjust looked.. that is cut checkered. Rare bird.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
Thank you, maybe I didn’t get taken too bad, course nobody strong armed me.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
Wish I'd known you were looking, I'm looking to sell the one I have. It's a 99DL, not cut checkered but it does have a monte carlo stock and factory studs.

Odd.. I just looked and mine is a lower serial number than yours. If you could, would you verify the serial number on yours? Mine is one of the first double diamond checkered ones and is 1,075,2xx. The cut checkering seems to have ended right at 1,075,000 - give or take a hundred.
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
I looked again. 10798xx

Thanks again for the help.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
One for our data. They found an earlier stock set for it apparently.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
Originally Posted by hanco
It looked cut, but it wasn’t Al Biesen quality of checkering. I hate to ask, but what difference does it make if it’s cut or pressed? I took a couple of quick pics last night. I’d post them, but Postimage must be down.

Pressed checkering is ugly, hand checkering is beautiful!
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/12/21
This is definitely cut, just not as nice as I’ve seen. It will be fun to hunt with regardless, I’m very eager to try it with a few different bullets.
Posted By: Nordik Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/16/21
Hey all I'm new her, y'all seem like a great bunch.

I never knew much about 99s untill my friend traded me his for some AR parts.

I've fallen down the rabbit hole and I'd love if any of you could tell me about my new rifle.

The serial is 305,2XX chambered in 300sav
It's a takedown model with a pistol grip stock

I'm suspecting is has been refinished because a chip in the stock appears to be finished over.

Other than the chipped stock and worn bluing it has matching serials
sounds like a nice G model to me. late 20's early 30's? you can't post here without pictures grin grin
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/16/21
I'm getting 1928.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/16/21
Welcome to the campfire, Nordik! As stated, it sounds like you have a 99G which came with a pistol grip, checkering and takedown. I agree with Joe that the serial number is 1928, but VERY early 1928 - I have 1927 ending at 305,000.
Posted By: Nordik Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 03/17/21
[img]http://imgur.com/a/nkxJeIa[/img]

Hers some pics, excuse the model 70

Any idea on a value? I'm just looking to justify using it as a woods banger instead of a safe queen

Secondly, would it be bad form to add a tang peep sight?

Thanks!
Posted By: hanco Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/26/21
What year would a 99 with serial number 91765 be made in?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/26/21
1908 I believe.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/26/21
Three sources I Checked say 1909, and I have long been under the impression that the change on the cocking indicator and rear of bolt and the jump to 90000 serial number occurred in 1909.
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/27/21
Interesting - I just pulled up the handy-dandy spreadsheet I downloaded from the facebook gang and used that.

In Murray's footnotes on the individual model pages he says the 90K change came in 1908 but his chart in the back on 3-84 shows different??
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/27/21
Originally Posted by hanco
What year would a 99 with serial number 91765 be made in?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Any specific rifle may ship in a 3 or 6 month window, but rifles with your serial seem to first show up around August, 1908.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/27/21
David’s book says 1909 in the section that discusses the bolt changes. Maybe he will weigh in with his source.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/27/21
My dates are based on ledger pages. I’ve seen the ledger page that’s 100 serial numbers higher than 91765.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/27/21
I used a number of sources for the serial #'s. I'm not sure but that range may have come from the NRA data.
Murray's data says (p. 3-84) "Serial Numbers at Year End:". the first entry shows 10,000 and 1899. We know that 10,000 was either very late 1898 or early 1899. This makes the rest of his early data suspect although he and I are in agreement by 1908.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/28/21
Murray’s data sucks up through most years prior to WWI (1917). Not his fault, pretty strong evidence exists that Savage provided those bad numbers to him for printing.

We’ve been using American Rifleman data for years for any dates 1899-1917, it’s far better. Even there I’ve been getting improvements through ledger pages shared with me, analysis of hundreds of letter dates, and new info.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/28/21
keep up the good work Rory. I knew the data was suspect when I wrote the collector's guide but went with what I could find.
Posted By: Jaaack Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/29/21
So, I assume the bolt and cocking indicator change still occured at 90,000, but you’re saying that was in 1908, not 1909?
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 06/29/21
Correct. The 1899 bolt/receiver/etc happened at 90.000, which was June, 1908. They jumped forward to 90.000 and skipped over some numbers at that time.
New to this site but I have read all the posts with regard to serial numbers. I do need some clarification on the mfg. date of a 99A that was part of my oldest brother's estate.

The FFL that shipped it from OH to AZ said it was early thirties but from reading this site it would be late seventies or early eighties. If I understood what I was reading. Which is suspect.

The rifle, .308, is in very, good condition and functions without hiccups. I'm pretty excited to own this in that it was my brother's and it is such a sweet looking lever action.

Any help with a mfg. year would be appreciated. D3490XX.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/16/21
Sounds like the shipper aged it based on the numeric part of the serial number - 349,0xx would be the 1930's. But in 1969 they started using a letter prefix on the serial numbers. So D3490xx would be very early 1980, around February.

Also, the 308 Win wasn't possible in a Savage 99 until 1955, so 1930's is definitely out.

Welcome to the campfire!
Thanks, for the swift reply. Maybe my mind isn't as feeble as I thought.

Pretty stoked to get this up on the wall and then to the desert to see what she'll do.
Posted By: wyo1895 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/17/21
it'll be a good elk rifle
The never ending thread ..........I just bought these two newer M99s and would like to know the dates of manufacture if anybody could help.....? #1. M99 A 250 Savage Serial # C0006XX #2. M99 F 243 Win (Sadly Bubba couldn't take the recoil and butchered the stock) Serial # B0398XX ...........
Posted By: Rick99 Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 07/14/22
1975 and 1972

The 250 99-A...is it 20" or 22" barrel? Case colored or blued lever?
Thanks Rick ...........The A is case hardened,but I haven't had time to measure the barrel ............I'll get back to you when I do..........I just measured it and it has a 20" barrel...........
Posted By: JoeMartin Re: Savage 99 serial numbers - 09/22/22
I forgot all about this thread. I think someone told me Rick was looking for one of these? It's a 250, 22" barrel. Refinished wood, but I really like the looks of it. John down in FL rehomed it to MD. I think something in the flash made the forearm look kind of strange, the finish doesn't look like that.

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