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Just wondering if anyone can help be find a buyer for this beautiful rifle. This rifle has never been fired. I'm selling this for my father 'cus he has know idea how to use a computer. He is asking for $1700.00 not to sure if thats cheap or not. Seen a few on Gunbrokers which had a starting bid of a thousand but look nothing like this one. Any suggestion pls respond. Thanks


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Welcome to the fire. Your best bet would be to put it on Gunbroker. I can't speak for everyone, but that would be my advice.
1700?

I'm thinking these go for more like 800-1000. See you have the box and tags, that will make it a little easier pill for someone to swallow. However, I don't really follow them that closely because I think they are hideous.

Someone else will be along and pitch in with a more experienced answer.
I've passed on them for under $1,000 but that is just me. As this is a collectors site we tend to be hard on a commemorative of a model that technically never existed. It's basically a tarted up 99EG with 1899 style buttstock and an octagonal barrel in a caliber that the 1899 was never offered in with some gold plate.
The last one of these that I saw had a scope mounted on it
and it sat for awhile before it sold.
The ones i have seen sell complete with box ,unfired usually go for around $1000. You never know if you put it on gunbroker you may get more. Don
You guys are being suckered again!!

Welcome to the fire my azz!!!
Mike:

Could be yours' for a mere 1700 wink
Them things are worth about 400.
Is this the same douchnozzle that has the 358 fs?
sold mine on GB 2 mnths ago for $555.00 - 99%,no box.
Originally Posted by Lightfoot
You guys are being suckered again!!

Welcome to the fire my azz!!!


Do ya really think it's "HIM/HER" or whatever??? I thought the name was "out there" but it doesn't hurt to start polite!!!!
Originally Posted by Jed 1899
Them things are worth about 400.


The last "used" one I bought was $400 and it came complete with a 3x9x40 VXII with leupold mounts. Peeled off the scope and mounts, put in plug screws and it was out the door within a week for $450. The scope and mounts reside on my 284!

$450 Canadian.....That's about $600 US nowdays ....ain't it?
The advice to put it on gunbroker is good advice. A no-reserve auction starting at a dollar would likely get a lot of attention. Not so much from members here of course wink
Nope, it's about $440 U.S.
Let me add, if the auction mentions a six month delay in shipment, that might stifle things a bit wink
crazy Lately the Fire seems to draw a lot of new sellers with one post. frown GW
Originally Posted by mad_dog
Nope, it's about $440 U.S.


Jeez: Guess the US dollar is making a comeback.....of sorts grin
sry buddy but it's not. I can give you a hug if that will make the pain go away
Come on guys, lighten up, be nice to my homeboy. He and his dad are proud of their rifle, and the effort expended over the years to keep it nice. Before I could PM, he received an honest recommendation to bring the rifle here for evaluation while posting on a local forum that does not allow threadcrapping. While I must admit that he was guaranteed to get honest evaluations here, it was not exactly what he expected. He is not a flipper, or Larry Root in new guise. A lot of non-collecting folks like these rifles.
Don't see them go for over $1000, and see a bunch sit around for quite awhile at $900. Any other NIB 99 from the same time period will fetch more money, sadly. Nice display piece, though.

If you sell it for $1700, don't give out your home address or the buyer might come looking for ya after seeing what others bring.

Sorry for bad news. Welcome to the forum, tho.
wow tough bunch. thats why I stopped selling here. grin
He asked for suggestions, I gave my opinion. Loggah thinks it might bring a bit more, Jed a lot less, but most of the others are in same ballpark.

If you don't want suggestions, don't ask. Not trying to be mean, but there's no nice way to tell somebody they are overpricing something by 100%.
sorry just jerking your chain. grin
No problem.. I was new at one time and believe you and I worked out a couple of deals to both our satisfaction. Those guns weren't worth what I and my mother-in-law had hoped either, we got over the disappointment. grin
Originally Posted by RandyS
A lot of non-collecting folks like these rifles.


Those are the people willing to pay 1000ish for them not 1700ish.

I didn't say it was worth a 1000 to me....it's not. I doubt any of the guys here that told him it was worth a 1000 are willing to pay 1000 for it. It is an honest assessment of what it might be worth to somebody.

Not trying to hurt anybodys feelings. But I ain't going to call a pile of sheet a rose either. wink

Thanks all for the advice. I kinda figured it wasn't worth that much, but my pops thought it might be. Gonna put it on Gunbokers and see what happens.............
A grand or so doesn't seem like an amount to sneeze at. And I would think he has far less than that into it.
Just bought a 99DL from pictures only, a freind picked it up, and has it, so dont have S/N yet. Could someone ballpark what it, and the Model 1895 75th anniversary, would have sold for new in 1970.
Originally Posted by dell
Model 1895 75th anniversary, would have sold for new in 1970.


$195.00
Thanks. What about the DL anyone?
According to Murray:

DL in 1972 was $169.95
Thanks. Don't see as meny post Mils as pre for sale in the shops, around here. If there are some around may be they still like to hunt. Being a left handed shooter, I like the tang safety. Maybe I'll try to collect them, if no one elce will. Their feelings must be hurt.
The day will come when they will become "collectable." Certainly, some already are when they are in .22-250, 7mm-08, .284, .358 and .375. There is a finite quantity of these and there won't be any more.
stop pussy footing around boltman. What would you pay for one?
today.
This is just like Pawn Stars. Anybody here that has typed $1000,
will really only give $300. just sayin.
Here's one for someone (not Lauren, Jed or me):

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Sa...rsary-Commemorative.cfm?gun_id=100161336

And another one:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/SAVAGE-1895-75TH-ANNIVERSARY.cfm?gun_id=100041561





Steve
Nice Specimens' And Great Photo's there.
I Have one My self N.I.B. paid 600.00 for it and one out of the box paid 300.00 for it.-That one of course is a Range gun just to shoot them darn 308 bullets up.

Centenials to some guys are collected,whether it be a Marlin,Winchester,savage or other,,they have there place to those whom collect them, As far as Prices What was just shown From you Steve on G.I. well thats awful Hi,but i'm sure one day they may go bump down the road.


Most that seen Selling is between 500 and maybe 1200 with a box,,but most just sit around.


Why i have 2 My self, One to keep in the box,,maybe in 20 years from now it might be worth something and the other just to play with,,i got them cheap enough.

I think if the one asked about went on Gun-broker or somewhere else it may get 1,000-may!
Stever - so you think Dick and Craig are a bit high at $2650?
Originally Posted by boltman
Stever - so you think Dick and Craig are a bit high at $2650?



Well There at a little more than Double Of The Hi's Mentioned at 1100-1200,,So It's Probably Gnna Sit for a Long, Long Time,, Or Some will Buy It and think it's Very Special because of the Price eek grin
Originally Posted by boltman
Stever - so you think Dick and Craig are a bit high at $2650?


Wouldn't surprise me if that is what the Blue Book says. laugh

Anybody have any insight on how the Blue Book publishers pull these arbitrary numbers out of thin air?

The Blue Book tends to rely on people from the field who have experience. I wrote the Whitney-Kennedy section of the Blue Book and update it each year. A friend of mine who has collected Ross rifles for over 50 years does the Ross section, another friend who collected Newton rifles for many decades does the Newton section. The pricing that any Blue Book comes up with is controversial. When it comes to vintage collectable guns (and I am not referring to a Savage 75th Anniversary Rifle), I think the Blue Book estimates are often low. Remember, when it comes to pricing, just because you won't pay a certain amount for a rifle, it doesn't mean someone else won't. Recently, a friend forwarded me an ad from gunsinternational for a Ross M-10 .280 sporter. This was Sir Charles ultimate refinement and most expensive rifle, but it also is the most commonly encountered Ross sporter. It was priced at $2000 and we both felt it was significantly overpriced and chuckled about it. It sold that same day blush. By the way, from the pictures, it appeared about 95%. The Blue Book places the value at $1000 in that condition.
By the way, I just checked. The 31st Edition Blue Book (which I believe is the most recent) places the value of the M1895 75th Anniversary rifle at $550 in 100% condition. Reportedly 9,999 were made in 1970 only. Despite my distaste for this rifle, I believe that is a low estimate and should be adjusted up next time around.
Steve:

I must confess that I really don't know a lot about the Blue Book.

I only know that the it seems like the guns I am most interested in are pretty consistently over valued by the Blue Book.

This may not be the case on guns that I am totally ignorant about. Which outside of 99's, 1911's, M1 Garands, M1 carbines, and Remington model 8's and 14's includes about every other gun on the planet. grin

Randy




Randy, I was looking at the Savage section of the Blue Book recently. I have made several adjustment in that section over the years. For example, on the M1899-F carbine, there was a two tier pricing placed there by someone else. One price line is for a standard carbine and the other is for those, "w/small bbl. band." I inserted the statement, "... first variation w/small barrel band is controversial as to whether it exists..." Some guys say they do, other guys say they don't. We know there is a catalog with an illustration that suggest they were made but most believe that they simply carried forward a picture of a M1895 SRC. I thought the best way to handle it was to point out that it is a controversial point. I believe one of the goals of a Blue Book should be to educate. As far as pricing, remember, Blue Book prices are for pieces that don't have ANY issues other than condition wear. I often quote Lauren's statement, "it's always something" and I am in agreement with that statement. It does seem the majority of vintage rifles out there have at least one something if not more than one. Hence, you cannot apply a Blue Book price to a rifle that has a, "something" such as extra tape holes in the metal, added swivels, etc. What this means is that the Blue Book prices are reserved for those minority of rifles where there isn't a, "something." This is the minority of rifles (offered for sale vs. tucked away in safes) out there. In looking at a few prices in the current Blue Book, I will stick to my statement that many of the vintage Savage lever rifles are priced low vs. high. For example, a M99R prewar variation in 100% condition is valued at $695. We are talking a 100% rifle with absolutely no issues and manufactured between 1932 and 1942. $695 hardly seem high to me for such a rifle. Or a M1899C made between 1899 and 1915 in 100% condition listed at $1800. Wow - 96 to 112 year old Savage lever in 100% condition for that price - I think a lot of us would be typing the words, "I'll take it" darn quick wink
Notice the dealers at shows whip the blue book out when making an offer on some rifles. They keep it under cover on others. I find it to be a good resource but as pointed out by many not the last word.

BTW Steve, I have diligently looked for Ross rifles at the shows , shops, and Cabela's. No luck. From your site I have an idea what I'm looking for but have not handled one yet.
Yes, the Blue Book can be used in many directions. I've also seen some unscrupulous dealers pull out an older Blue Book to come up with a "fair price." It was interesting, when I attended the Mercer Savage Fest I wish I had brought a Ross along - none of the guys there had seen one either. There are some models of the Ross that they made a couple thousand, there are many other models much scarcer than a Savage '95 SRC.
dear trustyrusty, do you still have the 1895 savage that belonged to your dad?
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