I have two model 99's one made in 1935 and one in 1949 according to savage99.com website. Both are NOT takedown models...where can I find the letter designation of these two fine rifles? A, B, C, D, E, F??? Any help would be appreciated.
Welcome to the board. It can be narrowed down if you can post pictures of the rifles OR provide detailed descriptions including bbl length, PG stock or not, checkering or not, style of fore end (schnable or rounded, caliber, and buttplate type.
One is a model EG because they only made EG's in 49.
The 1935 one s/n 3445xx does not have a schnoble has checkering on pistol grip and forearm and has a nice buttplate with "SVG" stamped on it 24" Bbl.
The 1949 one s/n 5171xx has a schnoble has checkering on the pistol grip and forearm, 24" Bbl
http://s1053.photobucket.com/albums/s468/lumberjack23/savage/
The 1949 one is in calibre .250-3000 is this the same as .250 Savage? Could this be an "R"?
The 1935 one is .300 savage
That would be an RS... You want to sell it??
Is the 300 drilled and tapped for a scope?
250-3000 is 250 savage...same thing
lumberjack,
250-3000 and 250 Savage are one and the same. Now a days you see 250 Sav but there was a time when the 250-3000 Savage was more common to see.
Yeah... That is what I thought I saw... Those B weaver mounts can be hard to find. Nice gun still.
Both for sale...If you want to PM me...send me a message at retrobsatcomcastdotnet give me an offer...I'm in colorado
Someone here might contact you... Both nice guns but the non factory drill and tap is going to hold both guns price way down.
So any idea of what the letter designation is on the 1935 model?
So any idea of what the letter designation is on the 1935 model?
RS
So they are both "RS"?....
The 1935 model does not have a Lyman aperture sight
and the 1949 does or does not have a Redfield receiver sight?
Looking at Blue book of Gun values...
Both appear to have after thought drill and tapping...dang.
Page 1594
Your 1949 is a 99 EG in 250 Sav caliber. Your 1935 is a 99 RS in 300 Sav caliber.
To bad about the RS, hard to find with the 3 point checkering.
On the RS...What is 3 point checkering? And "too bad" means the drill and tap right?
That is a pre war R, not RS. They were not factory drilled for for scopes.
Edit: I guess there may have been some factory drilled for the Weaver T-7 side mounts
Keep it. I have a scope and mounts to fit it. PM me if interested.
I sent you an email since you probably dont have the PM thing down yet.
Edit: I guess there may have been some factory drilled for the Weaver T-7 side mounts
Where did you get that from?
I think Drew and RAS have pre war R's with factory side mounts.
Believe they were cataloged too.
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3961311/Pre_War_R_and_T_7_mount
Interesting, that was 2 years ago though.
You come to any conclusions yet Drew?
I'm thinking no on the factory drill from what I saw in that thread, you see any others over the last couple years?
Joe,
I have not really been tracking it lately but to be honest I have not seen any T-7 is quite a while... what I was doing was just storing pictures in hopes of finding a number of them all located in the same spot but that does not seemed to have happened.
There are several Savage advertisements that show an R with a T-7 mount... but who knows, maybe this is the same as we speculate about the sling swivels... they just send them to the smiths to let them install locally at the time of sale... you would think it would come with directions of some sort for proper location and you would think that someone, somewhere would have run across one still in a box with directions if that was the case. If most were installed at the factory, would think that they would use a jig of some sort to save time and ensure proper location.
Joe,
but who knows, maybe this is the same as we speculate about the sling swivels... they just send them to the smiths to let them install locally at the time of sale...
Ahha, maybe this is where you and Jed got confused about what I was saying about the #7 or #4 sling swivels last month. I wasn't talking about the flat bottomed studs you find on the RS's or even the sling eyes you find on the R's, those are added at the factory. It was the #4's and 7's I meant that were sold to the gun shops and then if you wanted sling swivels added to your 99 you would have them put them on there. At least thats what I have always been seeing. They list the swivels in the 40's and 50's catalogs but do not show any #4's on the guns in the catalogs and the swivels are listed as an accessory. Thats what I believe they were anyways.
As for the side mounts, ya, I think maybe they could have been added at the shop where you bought the gun, don't think they came from the factory like that. Would be interesting to find out they did though.
Drew, I've got at least one ad showing a 99T with a side mount as well as the 99R ads.
I see what your saying Rory, but what were getting at is they're probably just advertising the side mounts and that they weren't factory installed. Just showing that they could be installed.
What year are the ads? I guess if theres a T then it's somewhere inbetween 35-40 but if you look in the catalogs in those years you don't see an offering of a side mount.
The ad would be from the 1936/1937 timeframe.
Rory,
I was nt trying to imply in any way that the R or RS would be the only factory installed or advertised model with the T-7.
Joe,
I also recognize that the factory did indeed install many sling swivels on Rs, RSs, and likely a number of 1899s that were ordered with the sling eyes (and then a bunch of post mils)... I was specifically referring to the generally accepted principal that the later sling swivels such as the #7s were installed at the gunsmiths and not Savage.
Let's try not to make this too much more confusing then it needs to be... I honestly believe that some guns left the Savage factory with T-7 mounts but would hope that all would be installed in exactly the same location... many were likely done later also but we need to collect more data points to draw any conclusions.
I was just trying to make sure that we didn't get focused too much on the T7/99R, most of the ads show 99R's but not all.
If you could order a 99 with a side mount, I'd think there would be a published price or contact information for it somewhere. Otherwise I think the vast majority would mounted by shops/local smiths.
I was specifically referring to the generally accepted principal that the later sling swivels such as the #7s were installed at the gunsmiths and not Savage.
Alrighty, we were both saying the same thing only different, lol.
I wanna make something confusing around here, getting boring lately!
I was just trying to make sure that we didn't get focused too much on the T7/99R, most of the ads show 99R's but not all.
If you could order a 99 with a side mount, I'd think there would be a published price or contact information for it somewhere. Otherwise I think the vast majority would mounted by shops/local smiths.
The 1937 savage catalog lists the T-7 mount as an option for a retail price of $11.70 and a wholesale price of $8.75
It also say they will use 29S scopes and that you may select from any of the styles and calibers in the price list! No extra charge for tapping for the scope when ordered with the rifle.
That pretty much says this was a factory offering. The 38 catalog pushes the 330 instead of the 29S. These are listed until 1942 according to Murray.
the real sad part of this is that the prime period of when this was an option, there are no factory records for!
The same catalogs also list the option of having a butt pad installed on a 99!!! I always wondered if you had a factory installed butt pad, would the serial be stamped into the stock under the pad???
Now if you look at the T-7's listed in the 37 catalog you'll see they're totally different than the one in the other thread.
The T-7 in the catalog mounts to the round side of the barrel. In the thread on the RS's the mount is flat and mounts to the side of the frame.
Would the real T-7 please stand up?