That may not be spelled right. The dictionary in my laptop says no entries found.
I met a guy who owns one of these at the Wyoming Weapons Collectors show this weekend and he invited me to come by his house on the way home and take a look at it. It's a beauty. This is definitely the sort of thing I want to put in my next book. It's a 30-30 with an octagon barrel and the hole in the muzzle looked small relative to the bore size. I'll take calipers with me when I go back to photograph it for the book but does anyone know if these rifles had a heavier barrel than standard?
Thanks, David

A Savage 1899 Schuetzen? I don't believe I've ever heard of such a thing. Is it simply a different buttplate?

Obviously, as you know, it's not a factory model. I am curious about it though. Heavy barrel, hooked butt plate, sights, palm rest?

The Schuetzen game was/is a slow fire off-hand game with plenty of time to take deliberate aim. So much time was/is allowed that all the serious competitors breech seated or muzzle loaded their bullets for the nth degree in accuracy. Repeaters were/are never seen for there was no earthly reason for rapid fire capability.

Somebody here had an 1899 with the Schuetzen style buttplate that I think was factory, iirc.

Somewhere, I thought it was here, recently, I read about an 1899 Schuetzen. There were pictures. I thought Savage made,or had it made, for presentation. If I could remember who it was for I might remember when and where it was posted. My initial thought was one beautiful rifle, but, why, Joe.

I have an 1899 set up for Schutzen a Leader Grade 25-35 cal made 1911 with a special order 24" bbl, Malcomb target scope with Pope palm rest that was ordered by the Malcomb Rifle Telescope Company

I would love to pictures of this and the one David is going to photograph!

Steve

I forgot, its a take down also. I don't have a home computer only my work desk top and the company I work for blocks photo bucket. So if anybody wants me to PM them to send pictures to post here for me, let me know.

YES!! Send pictures via email to jgermain(at)nycap.rr.c0m

I'll be happy to post them for you. Thanks for sharing!

Forgot to mention, he has a letter from Roe Clark saying that the rifle is a factory Schutzen. I didn't see the letter but he told me Roe started the letter off something like, "You're a lucky Man." It has a cheek piece with a brass medallion that gives the recipients name and that he's in the U. S. Army. David

I know of one that is real in N.Y.have seen is several times

and it will letter.

Doug
What Would it Look Like as Far as Stock goes? Just Courious!
Would Love to see one.
Steve

Good question, Steve'r.

"...The Schuetzen game was/is a slow fire off-hand game with plenty of time to take deliberate aim. So much time was/is allowed that all the serious competitors breech seated or muzzle loaded their bullets for the nth degree in accuracy. Repeaters were/are never seen for there was no earthly reason for rapid fire capability."

The above is what I think of when the word "Schuetzen" comes up. David/Doug, what does a Savage 1899/99 Schuetzen look like? What parts are different?

Buttplates like these are what I think of..

The buttplate is brass and similar to the ones pictured. It has a perch belly stock that appears fatter than a normal 99 stock with a cheekpiece on the right side of the stock. I believe the peep sight is a Marbles and the full octagon barrel looked heavier than the standard barrel. David

Thanks, David.

Schuetzen style stocks were not unprecedented for Savage, my model 1905

I have an 1899CD in 32-40 that was set up Schutzen-style, with a factory installed Swiss-style buttplate and an after-market palm rest that screws into the forearm.

Any chance we might see a picture of your Schuetzen rifle? That is a rare gun indeed.

Here's what the buttplate looks like.

and overall

Finally had time to post them.
David

Except for the sights, the plaque on the cheekpiece, and the color of the buttplate, your rifle looks like mine.

Unfortunately it's not mine.

Do you think it's fake? When I go back to photograph it for the book I'll pull the buttplate and forearm to check the numbers. I'll also photograph the letter from Roe Clark. David

Thanks for the pic David. Interesting piece.
Sounds like it could be a factory rifle, FUG1899 says they exist. If so, it not only is a special order but also came out of the custom shop.
If/When you go back get a measurement from the barrel. Standard 1899B? or heavier barrel?

There was one shown here a number a years back memory says it was a 32-40 and I think the poster was looking for a value the rifle seemed to vanish.

Is the butt plate brass?

That's cool as sheit.

It appeared to be brass. I'll use a magnet on it when I go back.

I have a dear friend who thinks crescent butt plates are really neat! My shoulder hurts just thinking about it. What calibers were
these schutzen 1899's in, all 303? some 38-55, 32-40?

That's the Franklin Scott rifle

I am planning to get book quality photos hopefully pretty soon.

that may have been the one I saw, maybe not, but do remember the butt

David, I spoke to the owner of that rifle. He was going to send me photos of the rifle, I was going to send him a copy of the photo I have or Mr Scott with the rifle. Neither of us got around to doing it. I have a poor digital copy of Steve Ballek's photo of the man and rifle, which is different than mine.

Gary, I would really like any photos you have of the rifle and the rifle.
If everything goes well I am going to the current owner's house and shoot pics of the rifle this week. It looks like the rifle was originally given to Franklin Scott. I remember some info being posted on him but I don't see it on this post. Any info on Scott, the rifle and how he got it would be greatly appreciated. I seem to remember he won it as a prize for winning a rifle match. I believe has was in the Army at that time.

Previous thread..... Schuetzen 99

Franklin B. Scott
Born in Wyandot, Ohio in 1879 to Lyman Scott & Sarah Lumberson.
1900 stationed in Cuba, Company H ,8th Regiment, Cavalry.
1902 he was in the military at Columbus, Ohio.
1907 he was in the military at Fort D.A. Russell, Wyoming.
1917 WWI enlisted
1942 WWII drafted
Died in Ohio in 1952.

Born 1879, drafted in 1942...at 63?

I suspect there is a difference between being drafted and serving.

I had a great-uncle who was drafted in 1942, at age 45 (upper limit of draft age range), turned 46 in boot camp. On top of that he was deaf in one ear and had already served in WWI.

They wised up to their mistake eventually.

Might have enlisted for a specific purpose not related to serving on the battlefield. Many were given commissions or just enrolled in order to put them under military authority.

Glenn Miller, for example, to entertain the troops.

That is interesting that they were drafting men up to 64 years old. They were kicking almost everyone out at age 60 in the 1960's, 70's and 80's. That included some pretty senior generals. I doubt if those older guys were being sent into combat.

Looks like he just registered for the draft?

I posted a pic of the ledger page on the old Schuetzen post.