I hunt two farms in Alabama my family owns and I am a member of a hunting club a couple of miles down the road from the house I catch someone one one farm nearly every time I hunt it. We have had several treestands stolen I even caught one guy hunting out of a stand that was my dads stand that got stolen a couple of years back. The fine for tresspassing is so cheap these guys can pay it cheaper than they can lease or buy land and if they dont get caught they hunt for free. I want the lawmakers to slap about a 5000.00 fine on hunting without permission. It would have to help if a few of these Worthless [email]B@^%$%d's[/email] wages were garnished.

Tried calling the game warden?

tried that like a said they dont mind paying the fine

I

ya gotta get some stuff going like we have here. Kid shot a buck in Sept supposedly. Illegal and all. He can loose his truck, gear in it, gun, license, and pay a fine. On top of that the restitution for the buck, due to size, is 10,800.00 dollars alone.
Jeff

Does your state DNR have a "hot-line" to report that sort of thing?

We prosecute the survivors.

With a little use of the imagination, I think one could make life quite uncomfortable for trespassers. We have a famous local who holds his privacy in high regard on some prime (private) elk ground. His practice involves blind siding the trespassers, sticking a 45 firmly in their ear, relieving them of their firearms,inviting them to leave, and placing the guns at his front gate for recovery. The ground is well signed, although that's not truly required here in Oregon. A few complaints have been voiced, but he's well within his rights, and has virtually no trespassing issues now.

Another tangent might be just solitarily walking past while loudly delivering an emotional lecture on how the Germanic tribes were screwed out of their lands during the early iron age. Then fire a shot or two into the trees each time a precisely delivered expletive seems appropriate. Your might do a few tight circles from time to time, bang your head on a tree or two, walk backwards, then scratch you head and go forward again, and dig a couple of holes and bury a couple of fist sized rocks. Never lock eyes with the individual or acknowledge his presence. Just pass on by and clear the next horizon as the lecture continues. One or two similar encounters will convince them you're a few bricks short of a full load and few will venture onto your property again as the word gets around. Disgusting nudity and big mean or big friendly dogs can work too. 1Minute

Poison all the deer, no deer no poachers..........

They got there by vehicle almost certainly. It would be a shame and a tragedy if anything were to happen to that vehicle.

You reminded me of friend who enlisted my help a few years ago.

Called me on the phone, asking if I would help him drag a calf to a hole he had dug in the woods with his tractor scoop.

Without getting into the rehearsal he had me do, he had a dead calf wrapped in a tarp. Seems he had been out that morning and spotted a pickup parked he knew belonged to some guys that he already knew about. Did a little scouting, found where they were hunting deer, without them being aware of him.

He slipped out, and went back to the house and called me. In the meantime he went out and tied some old gum boots he had to the legs of the calf so they wouldn't come off.

Our job was too drive back through field where the trespassers were, and dig a hole (the one he already had dug) where one of them would be sure to see and watch. I was to help him drag the tarp covered body to the hole and bury it. Should mention he fired his '06 in the ground at the garage while I was on the way to his house. We had hauled the "body" out on tractor and flat bed trailer down the edge of woods. Hoping of course the one guy would get a good look at tarp and the boots flopping around on the trailer.

We got it done, body buried, escape good and my last instructions were to drive as hard I could on the gravel road by the woods "making my escape".

He called me when got home, and told me he hauled large round bale back there on tractor and sit on top of the grave, in case they got nosy and poked around. Course I was laughing on the way home, and laughing harder when he told about the bale thing.

Now neither of us course got no real idea of the impression the episode really made. But my friend told me he never seen that truck around the neighborhood after that. We were kind of hoping some cops would show up checking it out, but never did.

Ain't it awful what some people will do to others, NOT, LOL!!!

We had an incident on public land with a local guy who didn't understand the meaning of PUBLIC land. He cut down a tree stand that we had taken several deer out of and built a stand of his own 15 feet away! We ran into him the night before deer season and he told us he knew nothing about it, and questioned what we were doing on his property. The funny thing about this was that we were standing on a well marked public access trail at the time. We let him hunt it that year, and paid him a little visit the following fall. We bought 100 of those cheap car air fresheners and thouroughly contaminated the area around his stand. We did it very late on the night before the opener, and I'm sure you could smell those things for miles around. We went back the weekend after deer season and taped a can of black powder mixed with ball bearings to the underside of the deck of the stand. You'd be surprised how much damage that does to 2x4's. It took out the whole deck, and 2 of the three trees the stand was nailed to. We neve saw him in that woods again.

Depends on how bad you want them gone. You might have to hire a lawyer and pursue a civil suit.
Here in Texas there are several statutes that cover trespass. Simple trespass is a fairly benign misdemeanor. Criminal trespass (which includes carrying a firearm while trespassing) can get to be a really big (read expensive) deal. You'll have to have some law enforcement involved, be it Sheriff's deputy, conservation officer, or whatever. Just prosecute to the fullest extent possible. Make sure your LEO knows you are serious, and you will do all you can to keep these cretins away. I'll bet you can make it "not worth it" to these creeps. Good Luck!

I'd think that a couple of well placed rounds from a 30-06 fired about 12 feet over their heads would get their attention.
It's been known to happen up here, and it works.

Don

Post you porperty well, as in "there is no question it is posted" Then have fun and get creative...no one can really tell you what you can and can't do on your own property...

Pokin' .45s in ears and shootin' over the heads of folks that you wished weren't there could be powerful good ways of gettin' one's self into something far beyond what one had planned for the day.

These are potentially life altering/ending actions. If you're willing to start the dance, you better be willing to finish it.

nah.........that'll never happen........

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can you say "ass-whooping"

Many can say it, few can deliver it......

Nosler Ballistic Tip.....

Post the living heck out of the properties.

Video or trailcams positioned where vehicles are normally left. Both for patterning of when/where/what/whom and for evidence of trespassing and thus poaching.

Prosecute vigorously.

And, get creative re: other means as well. Don't do anything that would get you killed, or potentially harm anyone else (as that'd get you in legal trouble REALLY fast), but there are ways of mechicide (sic) ...

The "greenies" have a great little book (if you can overlook the text/diatribe and just go for the useful pointers): web page

I know how frustrating poachers can be. I have changed hunt clubs because of them but obviously you don't have that choice. Short term you don't really want an armed confrontation. Remember, they can damage treestands, vehicles, etc. too. I would suggest what the landowners(farmers) did in North Carolina. Go to County Commissioners & State Legislatures thru farm associations & try to have more ridgid trespassing laws passed. I'm sure farmers must be having the same problem. It's time to get organized. I hunt in Texas a lot. You stand a better chance of murdering someone there than trespassing on a deer lease & going free.

If you live on the land it would be harder because they could retaliate since they know where you live. If it is just hunting land and you don't reside there. Find where they park.
Break a window and toss in a safety flare. They will find somewhere else to poach I betcha!!

I've tried a bunch of stuff over the years. My current tack is the following:

1) I made a laundry list of everything I'd directly witnessed.
2) I put it all in a letter to the game warden.
3) Included in the letter were a sample letter of permission, a topo with the boundary lines shown, and list of all the neigbhors and their lines.
4) Suggestions on where to hunt for the vermin.
5) Make sure you follow this up with face-2-face meetings, etc. Also repeat as needed every two seasons or so.

BTW: The secret to this is the inherent threat that a copy of all your carefully prepared correspondence will end up going to the state mucky mucks if nothing ever gets done.

If you document an "opportunity rich environment" and open your arms to the warden, he will probably come in and hunt it. They really do love taking 2-legged coyotes, and making it easier for them improves their chances of success. In my state, bagging a 2nd or 3rd strike offender is especially prized. My next door neighbor is a 2-strike offender. He would sooner rip his own head off as get caught on my land again. That would buy him a 2-year ticket to the pokey. You can bet the local warden would love his scalp on his belt too.


Another handy tactic I've seen work: find yourself the meanest biker you can find that likes to bow hunt. Give him permission to hunt in exchange for hunting your 2-legged coyotes. Tell him he can hunt it as long as you never catch a poacher on the property. Then spread news of your pact in every likely venue in the county (bars, feed stores, etc.) That's how the local real estate agent, keeps his property vermin-free.

You're primarily talking tresspassers. I don't like to get into confrontation with someone that is already a lawbreaker, and has a gun. You might remember 2 years ago a tresspasser shot 6 hunters in Wisconsin.

We had problems with tresspassing and decided to incorporrate the land into "Game Farm" which required some paperwork, a small fee, and posting Game Farm signs around the perimeter. When we did this, nearly all the trespassing stop- I think that the trespassers reasoned that there would be more feet on the ground and the fines heavier for having a gun on "gamefarm". Game wardens are probably more likely to chase down tresspassers on "game farm" than on simple private property.

You might also try tieing 2'x3' blaze orange fabric to trees at intervals on the property Come sun up the trespassers see the hordes of other hunters and generally sneak back out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

We can place a stand in a tree on public land, but if it's left there, its free for the taking. One can actually be charged with littering for leaving an unattended stand up. As to building a stand on public land, that's a definite no no. Really gets me wound up when I run a newly sharpend chain into a nail when cutting firewood. One can be fined for driving nails into trees on public land. Ok on private land, but not on public. 1Minute

The same way you stop deer.............

I am a retired Texas Game Warden and My first station was in South Texas , a Highway Patrolman called me one night about 2AM and wanted to meet me it was during deer season . I met him and he told me that he had stopped a speeder running about 85mph about an hour ago and when he stopped this guy he hands were bloody , his pants and knees were all skinned up and this guy was scared to death.
he started questioning him and the guy told him he was driving south and spotted some deer feeding under a vapor light alongside the hwy next to a big butane tank and started thinking that it would be easy to shoot one of these deer and load it up and take it home and he lived another 200 miles from where he was at the time.
all he had was a 22 and so he turned his car around and went back and shot one of the deer and it ran off into the darkness. he parked his car alongside the road by a cattleguard and got a small flashlight and went to where he had shot the deer and found some blood and started following the blood trail he had to go about 100 yds into some brush and still finding blood he was walking down a small ranch road when he heard this voice telling him to stop and lay his rifle down or he would be shot .the voice was behind him so he laid his gun down and the voice told him to step back away from the gun and he did and then to get down on his hands and knees . the man came up behind him and stuck a 45 auto against his head and ask him if he wanted the same thing to happen to him that happenned to the deer he said" no please no" and then the man told him to start crawling down this gravel road back toward the highway and so he started crawling .
He told the Highway patrolman that the man followed him almost to the highway ,and he crawled about 100 yds. said he stopped him close to where the vapor light was showed him the pistol and told him if he ever stopped there again he would use it on him . and left . he told the trooper that he waited until he could not hear his footsteps anymore and got up and ran about 25 yds to the cattleguard and got in his car and was heading south when he met the trooper on the highway running 85 mph.
I knew the place where it happened at and about a week went by and I was drinking cofee in a cafe and this landowner came in and sat down we visited a few minutes and I had to ask him about the incident , he just kept drinking his coffee and didn't say anything we talked about a couple other things and he got up to leave and he walked around the table and leaned down and whispered to me " I don't think He will be back in this county." i laughed and told him i certainly agreed. This landowner was a sniper back in WW2 and was very weird anyway but there was not a doubt that it happened.
Navarro

Sure as hell does happen ol bud. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I have found that it is a lot better if they never see you though. Then they ain't exactly sure what happened but sure as hell know they don't ever want it to happen again.


BCR

When I was much younger my father knew a farmer who owned land along a highway. Behind his property was a large area of Crown (read public) land. The only way to access the Crown land was to either trespass or to walk about 3 miles in.

Every duck season on opening day there apparently would be several people who thought they should trespass in order to reach some ponds located on the public land. (As you might expect the local farmers looked on the public land as their own private hunting preserve.) One opening morning about 10 a.m. when we were done for the morning the farmer said he wanted to go for a drive along the highway to check for trespassers. I should point out that all of the farms along there were properly posted for No Trespassing.

The farmer went to where 2 or 3 cars were parked along the highway. He proceeded to place pieces of broken bottles in front of the tires, broke off some aerials and side view mirrors.

Also he found a dead raccoon on the road, picked it up and then tried to throw it through the side window of one parked car while my father was driving at about 50 mph.

His comment? Likely no one will be back next weekend! (This was based on past experience.)

I have to admit I never hunted there on another opening of duck season. Was afraid I might end up in jail if someone went to the police.

And the sound of a single action hammer being cocked while the muzzzle is pressed into an ear can change a "No English" response into some fast talking, English speaking, explaining real fast too. You just need to come up on them quiet and unexpected, talk softly, and look like you mean it.

Back in the mid 70's we had a nice 1000 acre of mesquite jungle and thickets leased in west central, Coleman County Texas and paid a premium price at that time of $10 an acre for the year round hunting rights. Average Lease at that time was going for $2-$4 an acre. It had a big semi dry creek running north to south about 2/3's of the way across it....the only water course for miles. We had put up a bunch of box blinds ...and knew the place was being hunted hard during the week from the gut piles and tire tracks. On a biz trip I stopped off on a wednesday afternoon, parked where my truck was not visible from any of the fence lines - owner occupied property on the north and on the east, county road on the west, cattle ranch to the south...and eased my way across the mesquite jungle wearing street shoes slacks and a dress shirt without ever cutting a road and slipped into a tower blind overlooking the north east corner of the lease about 5-600 yasrds away where I thought all the poachers were coming from thru a locked and chained gate. About midafternoon a pickup came thru the supposedly locked gate -some AH's had cut our chain and put their own lock on it - and listened to the truck run around up and down the creek bed in a move and listen mode for about an hour, then they made the mistake of going down the west road that lead to the county road about 30 minutes before sundown. I hung out the window of the tower blind wearing a white dress shirt, waved my hat at them and pointed my scoped rifle at them as they used some binoculars to check out all the other feeder washes running downhill from north and west of me...and only after they cranked up and looked south in my direction did they get the "messge"...I nearly fell out of the 15'tall blind laughing watching them jump the low spots with 6' of air under the back wheels. When I got got back to town and called the sheriff - before cell phones in those days - and the master lease holder - who cussed me out for scaring folks and reminded me that I "needed" to call him anytime I was going to be on the property..it finally dawned on me ....Yep he was day leasing it mid week according to the Sheriff who called me later when the guys in the pickup called him to turn me in a week or so later.

Same Master Lease holder next year took our deposit checks 30 days before the due date without saying a word except that nothing like last year would happen again and we shook on it all round - it was great lease only 4 hours west of Dallas and we had first right to release it - and the AH leased the 1000 acres to some other guys and told them all our camp improvements, blinds and everything went with the lease...at least thats what they told us when 12 guys rolled up with the campers and equipment they had pulled 400 miles up from Houston opening weekend of dove season...we told them what had happened, went back to Dallas and cancelled all the postdated deposit checks after we pulled all the improvements off the place in one day ...but it took a 18 wheeler load to get everything from camp, and all the blinds in one pass.

I still won't spend a dime in Coleman County Texas , the Leasing Agents family was very very very prominent in the County! and passed all of the details of this incident along to the Chamber of Commerce who lists the landowners who have deer lease's available, the Sheriff's Office, the manager of the Bank in town where we had established an account to pay utilities with, and anybody else that would listen....with copies of the signed notarized Lease Agreement to anyone that wanted one. Sheriff took it to a local judge and said it was for sure a legal contract.

Still all in all I would not have shot at them unless they fired first and I was usuing a big scoped rifle, and the guns I saw were bare nekkid 30/30s and never let them get closer than 300 yards but made sure they saw me in broad daylight. I will always remember the sight of that pickup flying across the dry washes 6-7' in the air...never saw anybody else that season...went back only because the Sheriff told us to go back on the land after the judge had inspected our Lease Agreement as we had a written, signed, notarized lease contract that we had filed in the Cole County Courthouse records that spelled out exactly who did what, when what was to be paid and so on....and one of our hunters who was an attorney filed notice of intent to file a law suit against the Master Lease holder by contacting the local Bar Association looking for a correspondent Attorney to work with ...and mentioned his intent to include the Landowner as well and needed an Abstract Service to find the owner to serve ...who had allowed the Master Grazing & Hunting Rights holder to access about 10-15,000 of his acres. More than one way to skin an AH in small town Texas!! Life is too short to put up with AH's like that Leasing Agent....but Leasing is about the only way of life to hunt in Texas ...makes the Rockies looking better and better ...if I can grow enough lungs to get up and down <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Ron

POACHER UPDATE

This weekend a poacher was driving down a logging road on our farm and accidentally ran over a piece of 1/2 decking full of nails that SOMEHOW ended up in a mudd hole He left his truck so we had it towed and impounded. man I sure do hate that.

Eight penny and roofing tacks are rough on goodyears

Don't ya love it when a plan comes together.......... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Don

Don't forget to put the dead fish under the seat. That'll be a reminder this spring.

Don't put a dead fish under the seat.

Grind the little guppy in the blender (puree' works wonderfully), and pour the shake into the outside defrost vents. It only takes a little of this "magic liquid" to make a very lasting impression...

The only way to remove the smell... is to recycle the steel... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

jd;

Very good going, and keep it up. Just, watch y'all's backsides... fences.... property.... poachers are general bastids in nearly all regards.

Now that's funny. Thanks for the one up VA. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Good move.

I've heard versions of your experience from many who lease hunting in the Coleman area. It's not uncommon for them to let others hunt your lease during the week. If you live out of town count on it.

I left a lease in San Angelo because the land owner was taking quail hunters out during the week. It's a bitch when you have photos of them standing under your feeder on your game cam.

It works, too... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

A mason jar full of skunk scent poured on the back seat of a car leaves a lasting impression too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

HBB

That's a Cryin shame....NOT...the SOB got what he deserved <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

HBB

What about posting a sign for the lease of your land at a price that you decide upon, say like $1,000/day. If a person is caught on your land hunting, would they be obligated to pay the lease amount, or just a fine. I was told to do this to my property as if they are caught then they would be subject to pay the lease amount. I am not sure if this is correct or not and would like other's opinion.

Now THAT's more like it.. The original poster does not list what state he's in, but if it's a really remote area, maybe he could use the three 'S' method to deal with poachers, since it's obvious the state's doing nothing... (NOT that I'm advocating doing anything illegal)...

There are many sign sites where he could obtain ones that read, "WARNING! Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again!" (NOT that I'm advocating doing anything illegal).

Rookies the LOT of ya!! This is my hobby and I am getting pretty good at catching the SOB�s!! First get the local LE including the GW of course and let them know what is going on. We have had fences cut where deer were drug out, foot prints, shell casings, etc. Now the local GW here has been working with us for years and anytime we have an issue with a fence or if I am lucky enough to catch them as I did last year a simple call on my cell and he was there in 15 minutes. Now after he visits the �lease hunters� as we call them and lets them know that there are issues and he knows about them the problem usually goes away imagine that.

The laws in Texas are pretty tough regarding trespassing and we are fortunate but for those who I watch from my big hill the Leica APO 77 and my 10mp camera and adapter kit (thanks to Doug at Cameraland) that lets me take pictures it is not pretty. Taking pictures of the act here is much smarter than being stupid and threatening someone. That will get you thrown in jail let the law do their job. A lot of tough guy bravado will just get you thrown in jail or maybe shot and it is not worth it�I have had a rifle pointed at me before during a confrontation and it is not a good feeling.

Alabama is a little different than Texas we have one GW per county and a pic will not be enough to prosecute if the guy is wearing a face mask and cell phone service on our farm is imppossible unless you got a satalite phone hell i dont know if they even get service in Bama
Them Flat tires worked pretty good

I echo those saying "be careful".
I seem to recall an incident of this in the last couple years here in MN where a land owner escorted a hunter off his property with a gun and the land owner was in a heck of alot more trouble than the hunter.

I suspect that many county prosecutors would consider threatening someone, especially with a gun, as a more serious crime than trespassing. You could end up in court and facing a fine/jail time. (but I'm no lawyer or a law enforcement official)

Wayne

An armed tresspasser is a serious matter. He isn't a poacher until he's killed game. Then he is both a poacher and an armed tresspasser. Tresspassing while armed is a pretty good indication of intent to do harm. Laws are different in different States. Here, property does not have to have sinage to be "posted". It's all private property and no one has a right to be there for any reason without written consent.

Is that sort of stuff "tolerated" in your neck of the woods? Do other land owners complain about the same problems? We've been there, done that. If most of you guys are tired of that schit, get together and voice it to the state. They'll listen. If you are alone in the fight...your'e screwed.

PDS, you are correct about sinage. Cosinage and tanage are not required
either. ( <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> math joke <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />) I couldn't resist that.

Look in the little reg. book under general regs., I think, you will find
that purple paint on trees is needed to post land. A form of signage.

Not trying to be argumentative, just had to post that joke. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> BoB

I think my brother met you several years ago on a hunt in West Texas, you were checking into some clowns using the wrong tags.

I have had a few things pulled on me, sort of in reverse of this thread. As a former USFWS agent in Texas and Louisiana, I have had to watch out for booby traps set by the bad guys. One that worked really well, they snuck in to my boat while I was away working. When I went back to start up and chase someone, I put it in gear and it stopped instantly. They had wrapped a large towel around the prop, and it took me an hour to cut it away with a knife. No damage, but also no chasing that day. I met some pretty creative poachers over a 10 year LE career, but none better than Louisiana rednecks and Cajuns.

Not in Texas. All land is private unless posted otherwise.
Unless the law changed very recently. You can't even fish in the middle of public rivers when private land is on both sides. Thank you very much L.B.J. for that.

A quick search turned this up.

http://law.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/trespassing




A hunting license is not a license to trespass, but state laws treat hunters differently when it comes to trespassing. Some states have laws that specifically address trespassing while hunting, and others rely simply on the general trespassing statutes of the state. In about half of the states posting is not required to prevent trespassing; that is, it is against the law for hunters to trespass on private property without the landowner's permission even if the land is not posted. Where posting is required, some states have laws specifying how to post land. In some states, trespass while in possession of a firearm is a FELONY punishable by IMPRISONMENT for up to five years and/or a fine up to $5,000. A few states have laws that address hunters trespassing to retrieve dogs or wounded animals. In most states, however, hunters may not retrieve dogs or wounded animals if they cannot legally hunt on that land.

It's plain that a person has to tresspass before he can poach and it's also plain that a poacher is gong to be armed. I don't see any wiggle room here, it's a Felony.

I had a small farm up in NW MN and we had a problem with poachers. I talked to my neighbors and we all had the same problem. If we saw lights in the night (spotlights) we'd call one of the other neighbors and they would come over and park a tractor of truck blocking the road or field access. We'd leave the vehicle and call the Warden. Getting trapped in a field with the warden coming puts a stop to things and there is no confrontation. We only needed to do it twice in 12 yrs and all poaching stopped.

The second problem is garbage dumper, I'd dig though the garbage and there would usually be a newspaper, junkmail or envelope with a name and address on it. A POLITE call with the threat of turning it over to the sherif would find the mess cleared up the next day. I never had a repeat and it only happenned twice again, one family can spread alot of garbage over a period of time.

erich

You would be suprised at what a can of diesel will do to a unauthorized parked car on YOUR property...... If you aint into that, a 7 mag will make them piss their pants when it goes boom while you hollar and cuss at them from a hundred or so yards

have had that problem a time or two and our answer since it was not too far of a drive from the farm house (maybe 1/2-3/4 mile was to drive the combine down there and chain the offender vehicle to the combine with nice havey chain and lock and call the GW. you would be surprised how fats they show up when they knwo you hooked up to a trespasser, no doubt then what they did and the fact guns are involved gets em running faster. our local GW is very good about that as we let him hunt our lease he checks it several times a day on his journeys and has caught far more then we called about

Amen.

The goal is to get rid of the poachers and trespassers, not spend a major portion, and perjhaps the last protion, of your in prison.

Don't be stupid and especially don't be crimminally stupid.

Post a couple signs like this. I am sure it will help convience some of them.

The owner of the farm I hunt is a big, imposing guy. Also one of the nicest, mild mannered fellows you'll meet. Too nice to throw people off his own farm.

But he has a system. During deer season he carries a pint whiskey bottle, labels in tact, full of ice tea. When he confronts a tresspasser, he puts on a drunk act and starts taking pulls on the 'whiskey' bottle. Then he starts bragging about all the 'sound shots' he's taken.

So far he's had complete success and no repeat 'visitors'.