"I shot a monster buck at 100 yards and the bullet did not make a pass through. It just fragmented and blew everything inside. The bullet had failed, no pass through. It dropped the monster buck on its track."

Okay knucklehead, the deer died so explain to me why the bullet failed? Most hunters nowadays will quit using a bullet just because it did not make a pass through, they forget how a specific bullet is designed for. A bullet that broke bone and was able to hit the vital organs is a bullet that has passed the test. A bullet that passed though bone, hit the vitals and passed through the animal has also passed the test. It's job is to reach the vitals to kill the animal, not to pass through or kill it right there on the spot. I shot a deer right in the heart and that sucker went for a 100 yards, didn't mean the bullet failed, some deer are just tough.

guys like that want a bullet to go in, blow up the heart and lungs, make the deer do a back flip and then exit as the deer dies. oh, and THEN it needs to retain 99% of it's weight or it failed completely. of course it's hard to find since it exited, but it should be waiting on a table next to a knife at camp when you get back in order for pictures to be taken.

din'tcha know thats what a GOOD bullet does?

Had a guy tell me he quit shooting Sierra Game Kings out of his '06 because they dropped too much- at 600 yards! GMAFB!

Too many folks depending on a magic bullet to compensate for their lousy marksmanship. They want to be able to shoot for the big middle and have the animal tip over. When it runs off because of bad placement, they need a blood trail like the center line on a highway to follow it. This is IF they can find where the animal was standing when they shot.

yay, another pointless thread that will turn into a pissin' match...cant wait

Just think of all the game that has been taken by bullets that have "failed." All the greats of years gone by have shot all their game with failed bullets. How is this possible? Bullets don't fail, hunters do. That's why it's called hunting and not shooting. Chit goes wrong, it's part of the process. It's how you earn stripes in the woods to me. Everyone makes mistakes; a bad shot, busted by a buck, whatever. It's what you do after the screw up that makes you a hunter or just another idiot in the woods wearing orange. Do you bitch and whine about it or do you follow the sign and finish the job be it finding the animal or running the track until you can't run it anymore. I hate whiners. Pick your azz up and finish the job and don't bitch about your screw up and blame someone or something else. Own it.

Mine came this year when I forgot to put one in the action. Stupid, the buck is fine in case your wondering.

If it's a penetrating design like a mono-metal, a partition, Aframe, etc., it failed if it came completely apart. If it's a cup and core running fast, it performed as it is supposed to. If it's any big game bullet designed for a bottleneck cartridge that had a slow impact velocity and still came apart, I'd be reticent to use them again, especially at a higher velocity.

Out of the 40 plus deer I've shot , I never had a bullet fail. Wanna know how I know this ? Ans.; Because I've eaten those same 40 plus deer. The name of the game is " BULLET PLACEMENT".

Oh I can top that. I forgot to put the BOLT in the gun. Of course, we were all the ways to the woods when I figured it out.

I only miss when I get a flier...

Yeah, yeah, me too. It can't be pilot error.

biggest lame excuse i hear is from guys useing ballistictip bullets. they are nothing more than a hollow point with a plastic tip and will blow up on entry on the shoulder blade.
3 legged deer usually go a long ways and are often lost.

then there's guy that hit him right in the heart and you go find the deer for him and he hit him in the ass.

I cant think of a single time that I had a bullet fail...

I've missed a few times, but that wasnt the bullets fault.

I hiked in last year to my stand and realized I left my rifle in the car.

So a bullet that is designed to expand, that didn't expand is still good to go, since it reached the vitals?

One of the older guys I hunted with some when I was in my 20's said the .270 Winchester didn't work worth a schidt on elk because the bullets were so fast they didn't have time to expand.

Ingwe?

I'm old enough not to really remember much about those days. Maybe it was!

You're good and have a LONG way to go.
No one is as old as Ingwe.

I am amuzed by the "the deer died so how did the bullet fail?" crowd. First off, fairly often it takes a second or even third round to finish the job. The deer died right?

What if a "frangible" bulllet FMJ'd through, then the deer ran off several hundred yards, bedded down and eventually died? Did the bullet not fail? The deer died right?

What if a bullet breaks into multiple pieces (hypothetically, lets say a TSX), but it killed the deer. It didn't fail right? The deer died didn't it? It's hard to pull a "failed" bullet (or pieces) out of a living deer right?