I put the 64 gr Nosler Bonded Performance to the test again this morning, this time on a whitetail. I took a hugh bodied by Central Texas standards 162 lbs 8-point at the short range of 35 yards. The bullet was fired from my NULA 22-250 at a MV of 3400 fps. The bullet broke the onside shoulder on its way in, it then took out a rib, the lungs, and another rib on the offside. The bullet was revovered under the skin on the offside.
The bullet weighed 30.7 grs which is 48% weight retention. The recovered diameter was .373. I'm pleased with these results considering the short range, bone encountered and the size of the deer.
The deer made it about 25 yards before he collapsed the only thing I wish was different was there was no blood trail, not a drop. The bullet still impressed me all things considered.
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I would say it did its job
Yes Sir, considering the short range, high velocity, and the bone and mass it encountered, I would say it did a heck of a job.
Nice job. Id say it did well all things considered.
Josh
Great buck and report; thanks for that. Pretty amazing performance for that little bullet!
Both WT's I took with my 220 Swift left no blood on the ground. But, they fell where they stood.
This is my first deer with the 22-250 but I have shot a bunch with the 223. I have had all exits except one with the 223 and that was a frontal shot where I found the 53 gr TSX in her teats.
I think at close range the 223 possibly penetrates better due to the lower velocity. But it could be the amount of bone and the size of this deer that kept the 22-250 from exiting. I have not shoulder shot this big of a deer with my 223's.
Any thoughts?
I have a 22-250 that I'm going to use for a doe this year but in OK we have to use at least 55 grain ammo so I'm using 55 grain sp.
I heard the 55 gr SP's work fine on broadside lung/heart shots. I've killed a lot of deer hogs antelope and such with the 223 using several different bullets. I have only had my 22-250 since September so all I have taken with it was a pronghorn doe and this buck. I used the Nosler for both of them.
What LBP said. Shoot them in the ribs, no angled or bone shots, and they kill like lightning�.
Nice buck, Congrats! Can't argue with that performance and HV.
My father-in-law kills deer every year with a 22-250 loaded with the 55 Hornady SP with a cannelure. Has not had any issues to date with that load. Heavier bullets do not properly stabilize in his rifle.
Nicely done sir. Congrats.
I think at close range the 223 possibly penetrates better due to the lower velocity. But it could be the amount of bone and the size of this deer that kept the 22-250 from exiting. I have not shoulder shot this big of a deer with my 223's.
Any thoughts?
That's a bruiser for a hill country deer, well done.
The difference between the Nosler and the TSX is frontal diameter and I know I will get flamed but I think there is something to the "cutting edge petals" on the Barnes. Look at the Nosler, picture perfect but I think Ross Seyfried called it the chewed bubble gum shape mushroom, it pushes instead of cutting as much so expends more energy. That and frontal diameter slowed it down. Also a big buck is just more solid than a doe and even when butchering the muscles feel denser, the bones are tougher too.
I think you have some good points here and agree.
That's a pitcher purrfect shroom and deer. Nice job.
Congrats on a very nice Buck.
Nice !
That bullet shed a lot of weight. Coupled with it's diameter that will certainly hinder penetration.
No doubt a 22-250 will do that more so compared to a 223.
I dig that rifle.
Longer range, one less bone, or a smaller body deer and the bullet would have exited. This was about as hard of a test case I could imagine for the bullet. The buck went about 25 yards and fell within sight.
I used this load on a pronghorn doe last month at 251 yards. The bullet broke her lower leg bone as she was lying in bed, then a rib, destroyed her heart, and exited through another rib, then left a groove in the prarie about five yards long. The doe jumped up at the shot and ran about 5 yards and fell back down.
I know this is only two animals with this bullet in the 22-250 but I like it pretty well.
I can see why you like that bullet and it was a tough test.
It passed.
I'd like to get one like that next week in Ohio. What twist does NULA use on their 22-250"s ?
I'm gonna say whatever you want.
I'd like to get one like that next week in Ohio. What twist does NULA use on their 22-250"s ?
Like Scott said whatever you want. This one is a 1-8".
On a side note have you guys seen that Ruger chambers the 22-250 in the Ruger American and believe it or not, it has a 1-10" twist. Not perfect but much better than a 1-14".
Ruger American 22-250
I'd like to get one like that next week in Ohio. What twist does NULA use on their 22-250"s ?
I forgot to mention Battue above here has a 22-250 NULA with a 1-10" if I remember right.
A 22-250 with an 8 twist has got to be a giant killer.
Nice work on that buck by the way.
A 22-250 with an 8 twist has got to be a giant killer.
It's the great thing since smokeless gunpowder.
Travis
Yes it is a 1:10. Should have been a 1:8 but a mistake was made. Melvin offered to re-barrel but since it shot the 55gr TSX great I said no big deal and it shoots the 62's into an inch, so again no big deal.
One 55gr TSX went in the front chest and out the back ham of a Whitetail at around 70 yards. All is fine.
This is my first deer with the 22-250 but I have shot a bunch with the 223. I have had all exits except one with the 223 and that was a frontal shot where I found the 53 gr TSX in her teats.
I think at close range the 223 possibly penetrates better due to the lower velocity. But it could be the amount of bone and the size of this deer that kept the 22-250 from exiting. I have not shoulder shot this big of a deer with my 223's.
Any thoughts?
Nice deer you have there. I have shot quite a few deer with the 60 grain Partition from the 22-250 at ranges from 15 yards to around 100 yards. Most deer were shot through at least 1 shoulder and a couple shot through both. My biggest buck was around 225-250 live weight and shot at a range of 25 yards through both scapulas with an exit. It seems that a deer shot through either 1 or both shoulders did not have as large of an exit I assume because all of the bone wiped the front off of the Partition and all that exited was the small rear core with a minimal or non-existant bloodtrail but the deer rarely moved from their tracks. If I shot for the soft tissue behind the shoulder the exit would be about the size of a quarter with a heavy 25-50 yard bloodtrail. I have also used Sierra GK of 55 SP design out of a 223 and 22-250 and if placed in the lungs always shot through and again they leave a heavy trail if they ever even move after being shot. I like you think the GK penetrated better from the 223 due to reduced velocity. I have never recovered a Partition or a whole Sierra so couldn't tell you the retained weight or what the bullet looked like, just speculation.
This is my first deer with the 22-250 but I have shot a bunch with the 223. I have had all exits except one with the 223 and that was a frontal shot where I found the 53 gr TSX in her teats.
I think at close range the 223 possibly penetrates better due to the lower velocity. But it could be the amount of bone and the size of this deer that kept the 22-250 from exiting. I have not shoulder shot this big of a deer with my 223's.
Any thoughts?
Nice deer you have there. I have shot quite a few deer with the 60 grain Partition from the 22-250 at ranges from 15 yards to around 100 yards. Most deer were shot through at least 1 shoulder and a couple shot through both. My biggest buck was around 225-250 live weight and shot at a range of 25 yards through both scapulas with an exit. It seems that a deer shot through either 1 or both shoulders did not have as large of an exit I assume because all of the bone wiped the front off of the Partition and all that exited was the small rear core with a minimal or non-existant bloodtrail but the deer rarely moved from their tracks. If I shot for the soft tissue behind the shoulder the exit would be about the size of a quarter with a heavy 25-50 yard bloodtrail. I have also used Sierra GK of 55 SP design out of a 223 and 22-250 and if placed in the lungs always shot through and again they leave a heavy trail if they ever even move after being shot. I like you think the GK penetrated better from the 223 due to reduced velocity. I have never recovered a Partition or a whole Sierra so couldn't tell you the retained weight or what the bullet looked like, just speculation.
have you ever shot a deer in the shoulder with that 55 grain game king?
This is my first deer with the 22-250 but I have shot a bunch with the 223. I have had all exits except one with the 223 and that was a frontal shot where I found the 53 gr TSX in her teats.
I think at close range the 223 possibly penetrates better due to the lower velocity. But it could be the amount of bone and the size of this deer that kept the 22-250 from exiting. I have not shoulder shot this big of a deer with my 223's.
Any thoughts?
Nice deer you have there. I have shot quite a few deer with the 60 grain Partition from the 22-250 at ranges from 15 yards to around 100 yards. Most deer were shot through at least 1 shoulder and a couple shot through both. My biggest buck was around 225-250 live weight and shot at a range of 25 yards through both scapulas with an exit. It seems that a deer shot through either 1 or both shoulders did not have as large of an exit I assume because all of the bone wiped the front off of the Partition and all that exited was the small rear core with a minimal or non-existant bloodtrail but the deer rarely moved from their tracks. If I shot for the soft tissue behind the shoulder the exit would be about the size of a quarter with a heavy 25-50 yard bloodtrail. I have also used Sierra GK of 55 SP design out of a 223 and 22-250 and if placed in the lungs always shot through and again they leave a heavy trail if they ever even move after being shot. I like you think the GK penetrated better from the 223 due to reduced velocity. I have never recovered a Partition or a whole Sierra so couldn't tell you the retained weight or what the bullet looked like, just speculation.
have you ever shot a deer in the shoulder with that 55 grain game king?
Only ones intentionally in a shoulder with the Gameking were smaller deer. Maybe 115-120 live weight. I have broken a few offside shoulders with a slight quartering away though.
The fifth victim fell to the Nosler tonight.
Nosler Strikes Again
Thanks for that LBP! Nice buck by the way. I've been wanting to try the new Nosler bullet as soon as I can find some. My seven year old daughter took her first two deer this year using the 22/250 and 60 Partitions and the performance was flawless. Great post.
the barnes bullet did not expand much
Ya, only the front half..