I decided to do most of my hunting this year with a 760 06. After a season of use and 2 deer with it I gotta say, I love the darned rifle. It shoots right around MOA with several loads, handles great, and it's easy to carry.
I am. I read Bryce Toweslys books about the Benoits and it makes me want a rifle like that. I have a Remington 141 in .30 Rem. I m gunna have to get me a 760 06 though.
Never owned a pump rifle, strange cause I love pump shotguns... If I were looking at hunting much in Pa. or W.VA like I used to, I think I would buy a nice slide action.. But it looks like those days are behind me for the most part..
I decided to do most of my hunting this year with a 760 06. After a season of use and 2 deer with it I gotta say, I love the darned rifle. It shoots right around MOA with several loads, handles great, and it's easy to carry.
Deer #1
Deer #2
How many fans of the pump rifles are here?
(Best Steve Martin voice in "The Jerk".)
"There's something wrong with these deer. Stay away from the deer."
When I lived in NY state I hunted deer with a 760 .30-06, I always wanted a 760 in .257 Roberts as I feel that is an ideal combination for NY or PA deer hunting.
Vintage lever guns are more better.....unless you're from Minesoda.....
Something like a nice old Model 64 would be good......
Now jist one cotton pickin' minute! I'm from Minnysoda and I've never owned a single 7400! AKA The Jam-A-Matic, or the Minnesota Machinegun, and I don't have a single set of see through mounts on any of my deer rifles! I even defy Minnysoda traditions by not owning a $35.00 Trashco scope!
Never owned a pump rifle, strange cause I love pump shotguns... If I were looking at hunting much in Pa. or W.VA like I used to, I think I would buy a nice slide action.. But it looks like those days are behind me for the most part..
We gotta have a serious chat about that-pretty sure I'm headed out there next fall, and there will definitely be an empty bunk.
My father in law passed away about 12 years ago and left us a 7600 .243 it is more accurate than my bolt guns. I don't use it on deer though. It seems kind of like a girls rifle. Even my wife shot a .308. Would the factory rebarrel it to something more manly like .338 Federal?
I have a 1954 M760 in 30-06 that was my Dad's. I've taken 2 or 3 deer with it. It'll get the job done but is not my ideal deer rifle. They seem kinda clunky to me, but this one shoots pretty well and was a real good shooter in it's day. Being a pump, it was cleaned alot from the muzzle and probably could use a re-crown job. There appears to be some rod wear. I use it for nostalgic reasons only. I have a barrel band sling stud on it too. It think the last year I used it was in 2004 when it turned 50, took a spike with it then.
The first one was a 165SST, it blew all to crap and didn't exit. I loaded it at 2600 and the deer was shot at 100 yards. My first over 100 yard tracking job ever with an 06. The second one was the 180 Fusion factory load. The side in the pic was the exit and she bounced
I've taken most of my deer in upstate NY with my 760 carbine in 30-06.
I like a pump in the dense northeast where I hunt, it's a much better tool over a bolt action in such situations in my opinion.
I have a 12 gauge sluggun set up almost identically since I can't use a rifle to hunt deer in the Socialist Republic of NJ.
That's a beautiful stock on the bottom rifle. I always wanted a Remington 760 and finally got one earlier this year. Left hand stock too, which fits me very well:
Is there a trick to getting the factory trigger below 12lbs without replacing it?
I have 'a few' 760/7600's. All are right between 4 to 4.25# as they originally came from the factory.
Most gunsmiths can get them down to 3# or tad less with little difficulty. There are aftermarket triggers available, if need be. However, I have never felt a need for either option.
Is there a trick to getting the factory trigger below 12lbs without replacing it?
I have 'a few' 760/7600's. All are right between 4 to 4.25# as they originally came from the factory.
Most gunsmiths can get them down to 3# or tad less with little difficulty. There are aftermarket triggers available, if need be. However, I have never felt a need for either option.
My trigger is down to 3.25 pounds with a lighter spring and polished sear. It works great and I don't mind the slightly extra pull weight vs. my bolt action rifles. My 760 reminds me of my 870 wingmaster, but just a little clunkier. Took a little bit to get used to the mag box vs. the tube mag on the 870.. Great rifles though..
The first one was a 165SST, it blew all to crap and didn't exit. I loaded it at 2600 and the deer was shot at 100 yards. My first over 100 yard tracking job ever with an 06. The second one was the 180 Fusion factory load. The side in the pic was the exit and she bounced
I started deer hunting with a 760 in .300 Savage. I shot my first deer and several others with that rifle before passing it to my son. That rifle shoots as tight groups as my 722's and 700 in the same chambering.....
My father in law passed away about 12 years ago and left us a 7600 .243 it is more accurate than my bolt guns. I don't use it on deer though. It seems kind of like a girls rifle. Even my wife shot a .308. Would the factory rebarrel it to something more manly like .338 Federal?
More manly? The 243 is plenty of rifle for deer. Are you being serious?
I've had at least 6 30-06 pump rifles and all of them shot under MOA with 165gr bullets. My .280 shot itty bitty groups with 165gr RN and damn fine ones with 140gr federal fusion.
The 7600 carbine I have now loves 165gr fusions. I'm not all that sure I like this rifle but it is a really nice gun. It's my first carbine and just taking a bit to get used to I guess.
My father in law passed away about 12 years ago and left us a 7600 .243 it is more accurate than my bolt guns. I don't use it on deer though. It seems kind of like a girls rifle. Even my wife shot a .308. Would the factory rebarrel it to something more manly like .338 Federal?
I've got that same gun in a 30-06 right handed model that I have used for goin on 40 yrs now I reckon. That is absolutely the killingest sumbitch I have ever owned. And due much to the action of the gun itself imo.
I cannot remember how many times I have shot a deer in group of deer inside of 45 yards or so and had the remaining deer bust out like a covey of quail, only to immediately freeze up in their tracks when racking the action to load the chamber again. It happened often enough that I actually came to expect it.
The only issue I ever had with it is the forearm is just a little noisy when bringing the gun from shouldering it with the sling to shooting position.
I've got that same gun in a 30-06 right handed model that I have used for goin on 40 yrs now I reckon. That is absolutely the killingest sumbitch I have ever owned. And due much to the action of the gun itself imo.
I cannot remember how many times I have shot a deer in group of deer inside of 45 yards or so and had the remaining deer bust out like a covey of quail, only to immediately freeze up in their tracks when racking the action to load the chamber again. It happened often enough that I actually came to expect it.
The only issue I ever had with it is the forearm is just a little noisy when bringing the gun from shouldering it with the sling to shooting position.
Cool. This one is 40 years old too and in pretty good condition. I look forward to carrying and shooting it more. It is also a 30-06..
Easy fix. Put an 'Uncle Mikes' barrel band on it instead of attaching the sling to the front of the forearm.
WN
I do have the barrel band on it for the front sling mount. The forearm just seems to have a lot of movement to it when it's "rocked" from side to side. I just figured the 760's were all that way.
Easy fix. Put an 'Uncle Mikes' barrel band on it instead of attaching the sling to the front of the forearm.
WN
I do have the barrel band on it for the front sling mount. The forearm just seems to have a lot of movement to it when it's "rocked" from side to side. I just figured the 760's were all that way.
Ah, I see. I was looking at BSA's picture and thought it was yours. Brain fart!
Another easy fix might be to replace the rubber "O" ring on the forearm tube. Over time they get brittle if not lubed. I think I bought some at Menards (plumbing dept) to fix a rattle in one years ago. Worth a try.
I've had a few over the years, a 760 BDL in 308 and a couple of 7600s in 30-06 & 35 Whelen. They're surprisingly accurate but I just can't get past the forearm movement and rattle so I've never held on to them.
tzone, not real bad... My cousin is in pretty bad shape and I would buy it because it was his.. Last time I looked it over, the bore was excellent, but there was light finger print rust on the receiver and barrel.. Any idea what would be a fair price?? If I were going to be hunting in Pa. or W Va. like I did 15 years ago, I would be more interested.. Thanks ..
I've had three of them and still have one. All 760 models from the 50's. I've tried to like them, but I just can't shoot them well after I get off the bench. The forearm makes me put my left hand too far out forward, farther than any other rifle I've owned.
My 06 deluxe carbine. Both of mine wear trijicon accupoints now. They point and shoot better then any other gun I have ever shouldered. Target acquisition with the accupoints single post reticle is just awesome in the big woods.
tzone, not real bad... My cousin is in pretty bad shape and I would buy it because it was his.. Last time I looked it over, the bore was excellent, but there was light finger print rust on the receiver and barrel.. Any idea what would be a fair price?? If I were going to be hunting in Pa. or W Va. like I did 15 years ago, I would be more interested.. Thanks ..
Nice ones bring a pretty fair price. If it's in good shapeIf you and get it for $500 or less it's probably pretty fair.
Being something of an accumulator, I find myself with 3 of the 760 BDLs with the basket-weave "checkering" in hand and 1 in the process of being purchased. I have been thinking about sending 1 of them to JES to be rebored/rechambered to 9.3x62, with the idea being that a 286 grain 0.366" bullet might be a DRT woods elk gun.
I grew up with them and was the oddball who carried a Ruger M77 30-06. I did inherit my Grandfathers 760 which is worth more than gold when I think of seeing it leaned in a corner of the kitchen amongst the orange clad men gathered for coffee after hours during hunting season. Miss those days. I try to take it out atleast once a year, just because. Did take a buck with it last year, no monster but meant alot to me. The more small game hunting I do with my wingmasters, the better the 760 shoulders for me.
For those who handload for them, do you load them down a grain or so? I've had good luck with 165/180 SP, but want to find a good 180 Round Nose load. Tried Hornadys with 760 and got bad results. Got some Cor-loks to try this winter.
Had to have one after watching and reading the Benoit/Blood books and DVD's a few years ago. Haven't had it out in a while, had a lot of fun with it I need to do it again. Someone asked about the trigger . I had mine reworked by a guy on EBAY it still has a lot of creep but it breaks at about 3 lbs. Only takes 2 pins to remove the trigger group.
Thats also been my experience on the re-worked triggers...lighter, but still pretty creepy. If I wanted a good trigger, i'd prolly opt for the timney kit which gets great reviews.
Another note on the older 760s; the factory rear sight is a gem, adjustable for windage by turning a screw. Not like the newer ramp sight similar to those found on the older ADL 700's.
Long time ago, an old neighbor of mine sold me his 760 Gamemaster 30-06 for $100.00. It had iron sights, with the five diamond pattern forearm. Seemed fairly well taken care of for being a late 1950's production. Put a scope on it and damn I was amazed at how accurate that gun was!!! After a while it seemed pointless to load the magazine, because it was a one shot drop rifle against whitetails.
The other thing I liked about it was how easily it could be broken down for cleaning. I even once put a 20 gauge 870 youth stock on it to shorten the LOP for a smaller shooter to practice with; stock mounted right up like it was made for the gun.
Another note on the older 760s; the factory rear sight is a gem, adjustable for windage by turning a screw. Not like the newer ramp sight similar to those found on the older ADL 700's.
One of the first things I done was to redo the original rear sight on my 760 by cutting the sight from the base and brazing back a full buck horn from a donor sight in it's place. Wasn't really anything wrong with what as on there but I just liked the buck horns better.
They were the foul weather rifle of their time. Hard to kill and oil rag kept them running. Always liked them better with a peep vs a scope. Have often thought of picking one up and hunting it that way.
Question: Did the .308W and short cartridges have a shorter action than the .30-06 length cartridges?
Cousin had one of the old styles in a .270. A good shooter and he piled up the Deer with it. Had some drop to the stock and with no recoil pad it kicked more than a little.
You guys have me thinking about putting a .308W together with a straight stock, red recoil pad and a peep.
My brother received a 760 270 in the early 80s for Christmas. He's a lefty and dad thought it would be a good rifle for a lefty. He has killed a ton of deer with it. He killed a trophy dink with it opening day this year
Have a leupold 3x that would also be a good fit. Should have said a straighter comb stock and not just a straight stock.
An 870 trap stock would bolt right on. Sand it down for a good fit with the peep along with making the LOP shorter and it should fit well. Trim the barrel to 20 inches and it should make a nice woods rifle. Need to find a .308W with a nice barrel.
Have a leupold 3x that would also be a good fit. Should have said a straighter comb stock and not just a straight stock.
An 870 trap stock would bolt right on. Sand it down for a good fit with the peep along with making the LOP shorter and it should fit well. Trim the barrel to 20 inches and it should make a nice woods rifle. Need to find a .308W with a nice barrel.
That would make a heck of woods rifle. If you do it post plenty of pics.
I've owned a couple dozen 760/7600 rifles and, for me, the middle to late 1960s vintage 760 with the basket-weave "checkering" has the stock design that is the most comfortable to shoot. Since the pump stroke is the same for all cartridges, I would respectfully suggest that the common as dirt 30-06 would be easier to find and less expensive that the same rifle in 308.
Lots of guys shot Remington pump guns in the upper Connecticut River valley when I was growing up and by a wide margin they were chambered in 30-06.
Had to have one after watching and reading the Benoit/Blood books and DVD's a few years ago. Haven't had it out in a while, had a lot of fun with it I need to do it again. Someone asked about the trigger . I had mine reworked by a guy on EBAY it still has a lot of creep but it breaks at about 3 lbs. Only takes 2 pins to remove the trigger group.
Love this picture and the buck! That's pump country.
battue, if you get up to the Clearfield area, Grices usually has about 15-20 used Rem. pumps.. I usually look them over when I am in the area.. If you don't find what you are looking for locally, I can check there in March if all goes as planned..
battue, if you get up to the Clearfield area, Grices usually has about 15-20 used Rem. pumps.. I usually look them over when I am in the area.. If you don't find what you are looking for locally, I can check there in March if all goes as planned..
WCH,
Will check their web page or call and see what they have. This is just a screw around project that has been floating around for years. Odd to be a PA boy and never owned a 760. 😀
If you are going to be there in March, it isn't that far of a trip for me, so give me a heads up.
battue, I will try and do that.. Our trip got cancelled last year due to bad weather, but will try and make it this time.. Will be there some time this spring for sure.
What are the advantages of having a straight grip vs. a pistol grip on a pump gun?
I sure can't think of single scenario where a straight grip stock would be a better choice than a pistol grip stock on a rifle of any type.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to a 'straight grip' as in a shotgun stock. Remington has/had monte carlo stocks with a raised comb and a lower comb version like on an 870/1100 shotgun offered in the 760/7600's. All mine have the lower comb style.
What are the advantages of having a straight grip vs. a pistol grip on a pump gun?
I sure can't think of single scenario where a straight grip stock would be a better choice than a pistol grip stock on a rifle of any type.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to a 'straight grip' as in a shotgun stock. Remington has/had monte carlo stocks with a raised comb and a lower comb version like on an 870/1100 shotgun offered in the 760/7600's. All mine have the lower comb style.
Some time ago someone posted a photo of a 760/7600 that had the stock converted from a pistol grip to a straight grip......the reason for the question. I hope he reads this and puts the photo back up.
What are the advantages of having a straight grip vs. a pistol grip on a pump gun?
I sure can't think of single scenario where a straight grip stock would be a better choice than a pistol grip stock on a rifle of any type.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't referring to a 'straight grip' as in a shotgun stock. Remington has/had monte carlo stocks with a raised comb and a lower comb version like on an 870/1100 shotgun offered in the 760/7600's. All mine have the lower comb style.
Some time ago someone posted a photo of a 760/7600 that had the stock converted from a pistol grip to a straight grip......the reason for the question. I hope he reads this and puts the photo back up.
Interesting. Never heard of that. I'd like to see it too.
Not a fan of the Monte Carlo. But wouldn't mind close to a parallel comb. Is the 7600 somewhat straighter than the old 760. Pics seem to indicate it is.
I've owned several of them and killed game with them in 270 and 30-06 The most accurate was a 7600 in 7mm-08 and I hate myself for letting it get away.
Years ago I use to have friends come to visit me in Ak and we would embark on a coastal spring black bear hunt. 1st year I had 2 buddies from pa come and bring their 7600's in 30-06. The guy at the local sporting goods store almost downright refused to sell them 150 Cor-loks, insisting they "needed atleast 180's". The other two fellas who came brought a 350 Rem Mag and a 375 H&H.
The 2 guys from pa got their bear within the first couple days, no tracking/bloodtrailing, etc. Just bang, bang drag it to the zodiac. The guy with the 350 rem mag missed several bears that week and scoped himself multiple times...enough that he looked like Rocky Balboa by the end of the week. I didnt know him personally, but took him at the advice of a friend. Fella with the 375 missed a bear on a tough shot (was with him). Hunted with him on many occasions afterward and he always connected. Better guy you couldnt ask for, just took a tough shot.
For the experts. 760 or 7600 any major difference other than the locking lugs?
Not an expert, but the older 760s had a hangar that connected the barrel to the pump slide. So the barrel wasnt totally free-floated. Dont know how much effect if any it had on accuracy. Also IIRC the old ones had an aluminum dust cover vs. the plastic ones. Like I mentioned earlier, the sights changed many times throughout production.
I put a Timney Trigger Fix in my 870 Wingmaster with the lightest spring, then put the Medium spring in my 1950s 760 '06 and the (not) Heavy spring in son's 870.
All three are crisp and slicker than spotted owl poop.
Ive got a buddy that has one NIB in 25-06 I have never seen another in that caliber though I am sure they are out there. I cant get him to part with it or shoot it.
Ive got a buddy that has one NIB in 25-06 I have never seen another in that caliber though I am sure they are out there. I cant get him to part with it or shoot it.
if I am not mistaken Grice's did a limited run on a 7600 in 25-06.
For the experts. 760 or 7600 any major difference other than the locking lugs?
Also not an expert. I've had three 760s IIRC and now a few M 6s, deluxe 7600.
I prefer the fewer, larger locking lugs on the newer pumps. I don't know if it really matters but I like the idea and looks.
The farther back you go with 760s the greater drop at toe/heel. All the 7600/6s have straighter stocks.
The M 6s have Monte Carlo & cheek pieces, which I like. The 6s also have thinner pistol grips, which I also like. Their fore ends are 'sorta' wedge shaped, smaller at the front end and larger at the rear. They are also CUT checkering.
The M 6s have the cartridge head for that particular rifle embedded in the bottom of the receiver.
I wanted to take/post a few pics today but the WX wouldn't permit. Hopefully we'll have a decent day tomorrow. Remington dropped the M 6 s @ 1990 or so.
I 'think' you can google Rem M 6 pump rifle and get an idea of what they look like. I remember you have to be specific about "pump rifle".
I have 1 pic I can post tonight but it's not a close up.
My father in law passed away about 12 years ago and left us a 7600 .243 it is more accurate than my bolt guns. I don't use it on deer though. It seems kind of like a girls rifle. Even my wife shot a .308. Would the factory rebarrel it to something more manly like .338 Federal?
More manly? The 243 is plenty of rifle for deer. Are you being serious?
Well with all the teasing about a .270 being gay what is a .243 ?
Ive got a buddy that has one NIB in 25-06 I have never seen another in that caliber though I am sure they are out there. I cant get him to part with it or shoot it.
My father in law passed away about 12 years ago and left us a 7600 .243 it is more accurate than my bolt guns. I don't use it on deer though. It seems kind of like a girls rifle. Even my wife shot a .308. Would the factory rebarrel it to something more manly like .338 Federal?
More manly? The 243 is plenty of rifle for deer. Are you being serious?
Well with all the teasing about a .270 being gay what is a .243 ?
Ive got a buddy that has one NIB in 25-06 I have never seen another in that caliber though I am sure they are out there. I cant get him to part with it or shoot it.
MATO. Work on him!
I even tried to get him drunk and talk him out of it..... He can drink a lot more than me.
The .243 and 6mm Remington account for a substantial amount of elk where I am from.
Quite frankly, I would not hesitate in the least bit to hunt big mule deer and elk with my 6mm Remington.
Not trying to cause trouble but your daughter shot her elk with a .308 Tikka with 155 Scenar if I remember correctly. I know guys have used .223 on deer but I have to many others for that assignment.
According to Eugene Myszkowski's book, Remington Autoloading & Pump-Action Rifles, Remington's production numbers for the Model 6 totaled 36,236 which included three engraved models.
The breakdown by caliber: '06/50.2%, 270/29%, 243/10.3%, 308/7.6%, 6mm/2.9%. Jerry-that 6mm you have is, indeed, one of just a tad over 1000.
So there are around 10,000 270s out there. They show up on GB but prices can be up there. I think with time and patience a Model Six 270 can be snagged
A 760/7600 rebarreled to 9.3x62, with the big box mag, 20 gauge 870 synthetic furniture, and good sights with QD rings and the SWFA Illuminati would be a hammer.
I see '06's and an occasional 270 at gun shows now and then. They are out there but expect to pay 10-20% more than a garden variety 760/7600. Just need to be patient but persistent, I guess.
Now that I know the 6mm is 'one-of-a-1000' I'll be paying a little more attention!
I see '06's and an occasional 270 at gun shows now and then. They are out there but expect to pay 10-20% more than a garden variety 760/7600. Just need to be patient but persistent, I guess.
Now that I know the 6mm is 'one-of-a-1000' I'll be paying a little more attention!
Paul
When I bought my 06 I was looking for a 270 but everything just clicked on the 06, especially the price. My arm could be twisted on the right Six 06
I haven't hit the gun shows much for a few years, this will give me a reason to go to a few
According to Eugene Myszkowski's book, Remington Autoloading & Pump-Action Rifles, Remington's production numbers for the Model 6 totaled 36,236 which included three engraved models.
The breakdown by caliber: '06/50.2%, 270/29%, 243/10.3%, 308/7.6%, 6mm/2.9%. Jerry-that 6mm you have is, indeed, one of just a tad over 1000.
W N -
Thnx for the figures.
JDK -
I hardly ever see any M Sixes around here. Before Rem discontinued the 6s they were only $20.00 more than the 7600.
I have known a lot of guys using 760s and 7600s but I don't know of anyone personally who has a M 6.
I hardly ever see any M Sixes around here. Before Rem discontinued the 6s they were only $20.00 more than the 7600.
I have known a lot of guys using 760s and 7600s but I don't know of anyone personally who has a M 6.
Jerry
I don't want to give the impression that they are a dime a dozen but I see them 2-3 times a year. Most are 06s. Last one I saw was just after Thanksgiving had a Redfield 2x7 on it. The shop was asking $750 and it was gone last week.
I have a Model 6 .243 which is more accurate than my bolt guns. It has blue wear on the muzzle but other than a one inch pad looks almost new. Could you guys please give me a ballpark figure what it is worth? It was my father in laws last deer rifle when he was to old for the 30-06. My wife shot a 788 in . 308 and refused to switch. My boys only want 30-06 bolt guns because they were raised that way.
I want to sell it and split the money with them since there mother died four years ago and nobody wants to shoot it. whelennut It has a nice trigger.
There is a guy that brings one of those "shuckers" to our Wisconsin deer camp every year. I guess you could call him a fan of pump rifles and has won the money in the pot for best deer a few times.
For the guys who were interested in the pump .25-06, I have seen a couple used one's in Grices in Clearfield, Pa. Not many but they show up there now and then..
There is a guy that brings one of those "shuckers" to our Wisconsin deer camp every year. I guess you could call him a fan of pump rifles and has won the money in the pot for best deer a few times.
There is a guy that brings one of those "shuckers" to our Wisconsin deer camp every year. I guess you could call him a fan of pump rifles and has won the money in the pot for best deer a few times.
A few years back Grice gunshop contracted Remington to make a run of 300 m7600s in .300 savage.Mine has accounted for several deer.I also have a 30-06 carbine,a760 .35 REm., a7600 35 whelen and two older 760s in .270 and .300 sav. You might say that I like my Remington pumps!
Yes the pump rifles were such a natural transition from the Rem 870. A good shotgunner doesn't waste time pumping the action. By the same token a man familiar with a pump rifle can REchamber a round BEFORE the noise of the shot is gone.
I had gotten away from DEER hunting with the Sixes for a few years using different bolt rifles. This year I decided to break out my 6-270. It was so natural.
The trigger doesn't seem to hinder the guys posting up the pics. 😳
Having had several 760/6, never owned a 7600, I only HAD 1 that had a really bad trigger. I don't remember now where/why but I turned it into a different rifle.
All the rest of the pumps I've had, had reasonable triggers.
Also in this thread someone mentioned the fore end rattling. I've been around 1 that someone else had that rattled but none of mine do or have.
I've been told there is a rubber O ring that can be replaced but so far haven't needed one.
I've got a nephew that uses a Rem pump in .270 and he is deadly with it. I wouldn't want to be a deer. elk or pronghorn around him when the season is open and he has a tag in his pocket.
A5--good choice. Can't imagine it wouldn't work well for bear, deer, or anything else for that matter. My experience with 225AB's and AB's in other calibers has made me a believer!
If I were starting all over again, they would be a first choice with R-15.
I've got a nephew that uses a Rem pump in .270 and he is deadly with it. I wouldn't want to be a deer. elk or pronghorn around him when the season is open and he has a tag in his pocket.
I shot against a kid (20 years old) like that. He was damn good with that pump gun. Good offhand shot. Nailed an egg in an offhand shoot and damn near walked away with all the money... I did say damn near....
My father in law passed away about 12 years ago and left us a 7600 .243 it is more accurate than my bolt guns. I don't use it on deer though. It seems kind of like a girls rifle. Even my wife shot a .308. Would the factory rebarrel it to something more manly like .338 Federal?
Give that 243 a try with a good 100 grain cup and core bullet, Nosler partition or even a barnes ttsx. I am confident you will not miss the recoil and kill deer just as dead. On occasion your deer may travel another 10 paces. Suspect your father in law may roll over in his grave to hear of re-barreling a perfectly good very accurate rifle like this. If it aint broke don't fix it would be my line of thought.
243, 257 Bob or a more recent cal that still lacks the credit it deserves would be a Grendel
I suppose you are right. I loaded some 85 grain Nosler Solid Base years ago so he could porcupine hunt. I told him those light bullets were not for deer. He ignored me and shot a deer anyway. I have a friend who shoots a .270 Wssm and he says the deer don't drop instantly so he is shopping for a bigger rifle. People are funny. I love my 35 Whelen. Never a problem finding a deer after getting shot with that. whelennut
Load 85 TSX for deer and 87 V-Max for everything else. You'll flat kill things. Dead critters mean more than contemplating the "manliness" of bore diameter.
Could a 7600 in 7mm-08 be rechambered for a 284 win.? I realize this has no advantage over the 280 Rem. and there is always the issue of feeding. Just observing my dream mind.
I use all of the above shoots pistol bullet real good also cast rcbs 200gr and 180gr, and speer 180gr flat points. my brother did the work, shorten the barrel to 18" and added saddle ring.
Being from New England reading about the Benoits, Berniers and Blood and meeting all of the, I have also had a soft spot for them. My friends Dad who hunted with when I was young not only swore by his Rem 760 but also was a huge fan of the 270 it was chambered for. I have had a couple and though they shot good just never felt comfortable carrying or shooting in the field. Two guys I hunt with in Maine also swear by them both in 30-06.
Looking at all posts and pixs though have me thinking about giving one another try
I have a Model 6 .243 which is more accurate than my bolt guns. It has blue wear on the muzzle but other than a one inch pad looks almost new. Could you guys please give me a ballpark figure what it is worth? It was my father in laws last deer rifle when he was to old for the 30-06. My wife shot a 788 in . 308 and refused to switch. My boys only want 30-06 bolt guns because they were raised that way.
I want to sell it and split the money with them since there mother died four years ago and nobody wants to shoot it. whelennut It has a nice trigger.
There is a 243 on GB right now that is over $1500. It's been listed before but brought no bids.
My main hunting buddy hunts with a pump 30-06 and if it is 300 or less standing or moving it is dead meat if he shoots. I would hate to try and guess how many deer he has shot with it.
I had a 760 carbine .30-06 for a few years back in the 80's. Good shooting little bugger but man was it LOUD ! It also shot a basketball sized ball of orange flame that would about blind you if you shot at dawn or dusk. I rolled 3 deer with 3 shots in about 2 seconds with it on a deer drive once.
well you guys did it i had to search my friends till i found one to check out a new guy at work has one but discovered my hunting partner's dad has one i can check out and put through paces if i like it i'll try to buy from him
will be tested side by side to a rem 700 with 2 different shooters both shooting both guns and shooting factory win 180 and 165 grain pp's.Think it should be a fair test. The range will be 50 yards then 100 and 200 which should conclude enough accuracy results
I had a 760 carbine .30-06 for a few years back in the 80's. Good shooting little bugger but man was it LOUD ! It also shot a basketball sized ball of orange flame that would about blind you if you shot at dawn or dusk. I rolled 3 deer with 3 shots in about 2 seconds with it on a deer drive once.
Laughing here, I was wondering if anyone would mention the 'flame' that comes from a carbine, mine does the exact same thing.
Only one year of production-1979. Stock and forearm the same as the 7600 which was yet to be introduced. New style rear sight. Screw hole spacing still the same as the 760.
Only 11,932 were produced.
I have several of these in 35Rem, one rechambered to 358Win and cut to 19".
The fanciest pump guns that I've ever seen, either in a museum or in the field, was Bearrr264's Grandfather's hunting rifles, a 14 1/2 in 44-40 for deer and a 14 in 35 for bigger game. All highly engraved, with premium grade wood and checkering.
Really enjoyed this thread.. When we visit Pa. later in the winter, I will have to check out the pumps.. Seldom see them here.. Never owned a single pump action rifle in my life.. And pump actions shotguns are my favorite.. Keep those pics. coming it is a fun thread.
Really enjoyed this thread.. When we visit Pa. later in the winter, I will have to check out the pumps.. Seldom see them here.. Never owned a single pump action rifle in my life.. And pump actions shotguns are my favorite.. Keep those pics. coming it is a fun thread.
I would bet 50% of Remington's 760 or 7600 production are in the state of Pa. The Remington 760 should be on the Pa state flag..
Really enjoyed this thread.. When we visit Pa. later in the winter, I will have to check out the pumps.. Seldom see them here.. Never owned a single pump action rifle in my life.. And pump actions shotguns are my favorite.. Keep those pics. coming it is a fun thread.
I would bet 50% of Remington's 760 or 7600 production are in the state of Pa. The Remington 760 should be on the Pa state flag..
Doc
That's funny. However, my dad is from PA and he's never owned a 760....
when i was a kid in the 70's i lived near a old coal mine slag dump and it had a neighborhood shooting range in it. in the weeks preceding deer season it saw a lot of use and i would hang out there watching and shooting. i remember the row of guns lined up and 90% were 760's. most had that squared off basket weave forend that came out in early 70's, see through mounts, big gawdy leather slings with colored deer graphics, tv screen redfield scopes, the whole nine yards. the mills were booming then and everybody had money. almost all were '06 with a few 270's and the odd 308. i always wanted a 760 270 but couldn't afford it. fast forward to 1982 and i'm home on leave from the AF and having a few brews with my dad and his buddy george and i commented how i i wanted a pump 270. george said he had an old one he bought in 1960 and would sell it to me. few weeks later i get a call from my dad and he asks if i still want that 270. $130 which is what george paid for it in 1960. pristine condition, never even had a scope mounted. i came home on leave for deer season and put a scope and see-throughs on it and dropped a buck at daylight on the first day. still have that gun and it has accounted for many, many deer. it will shoot quarter sized groups at 100 yards all day.
i remember the row of guns lined up and 90% were 760's.
most had that squared off basket weave forend that came out in early 70's, see through mounts, big gawdy leather slings with colored deer graphics, tv screen redfield scopes, the whole nine yards.
Always wondered what tye quality and accuracy of the Savage 170 was like. Is there enough meat on the barrel to rebore to 44 cal.?
I haven't shot the 35 much, but it shoots OK with Remington 200 grain RNCL factory ammo. I've owned several 30-30s and they all shoot about like any 30-30 that isn't a Marlin 336 or a Remington 788. I got screwed on a Gunbroker deal last year, the rifle was totally misrepresented, and the bore is pretty badly pitted, so it may go to JES for a rebore. I've owned Marlins and Savages in 375 Win and am not a huge fan, but I figured a 444 Marlin pump gun might be interested.
The Savage 170s were never expensive rifles and aren't, IMO, in the same quality level as the Remington 14/141 or 760/7600 series.
Have the same rifle & have taken 5 Black Bears & over 100 hogs with mine. A great caliber & rifle for fast follow up shots. Have never needed very many. I have a Leupold fixed 6 power scope & this combination has always worked for me. Never hunted deer with mine, but would obviously smash any hooved critter in NA.
I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen like kk Alaska's but I've never taken it out to hunt with because it rattles. Not sure if that is something I can address or not. I've heard there is an o-ring that can be replaced but the slide rails also have play in them. They pivot a little. Is that normal for these rifles?
I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen like kk Alaska's but I've never taken it out to hunt with because it rattles. Not sure if that is something I can address or not. I've heard there is an o-ring that can be replaced but the slide rails also have play in them. They pivot a little. Is that normal for these rifles?
If you don't want to hunt with it, PM a price you need to ship it my way.
I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen like kk Alaska's but I've never taken it out to hunt with because it rattles. Not sure if that is something I can address or not. I've heard there is an o-ring that can be replaced but the slide rails also have play in them. They pivot a little. Is that normal for these rifles?
If you don't want to hunt with it, PM a price you need to ship it my way.
I haven't decided to turn loose of it just yet. At some point, I'll likely disassemble it and see what I can do with it. I should probably handle a new one at a gun shop just for a point of reference. I bought this one used and it's the only one I've handled.
I have a 7600 in 35 Whelen like kk Alaska's but I've never taken it out to hunt with because it rattles. Not sure if that is something I can address or not. I've heard there is an o-ring that can be replaced but the slide rails also have play in them. They pivot a little. Is that normal for these rifles?
GL--first thing to check, make sure the screw at the front of the forearm is tight.
The "0" ring is easily replaced. Take the old one out and go to a hardware store--plumbing dept and get a new one.
I've hunted with many Remington pumps all my life. Only had one that developed a rattle and it just needed to have the forearm screw tightened.
GL--first thing to check, make sure the screw at the front of the forearm is tight.
The "0" ring is easily replaced. Take the old one out and go to a hardware store--plumbing dept and get a new one.
I've hunted with many Remington pumps all my life. Only had one that developed a rattle and it just needed to have the forearm screw tightened.
Thanks Whelen Nut. I checked the screw and it was tight. That is one big slotted screw. Had to be careful because I don't have any hollow ground drivers that big.
I won't say it doesn't happen but I've never experienced the rattle myself. I remember reading about someone asking Larry Benoit, the legendary deer tracker, about hunting with a gun that rattles (referring to his Rem 760). His response was essentially "Do you think I would hunt with a gun that rattles?" The point being if there is a rattle, likely something is amiss.
I won't say it doesn't happen but I've never experienced the rattle myself. I remember reading about someone asking Larry Benoit, the legendary deer tracker, about hunting with a gun that rattles (referring to his Rem 760). His response was essentially "Do you think I would hunt with a gun that rattles?" The point being if there is a rattle, likely something is amiss.
Lucky, mine doesn't rattle. However, I still call it my "clunky" rem 760...
I've hunted with many Remington pumps all my life. Only had one that developed a rattle and it just needed to have the forearm screw tightened.
I've heard about pumps rattling much more than I've heard pumps rattle. I've been trying to remember how many I've been around and I can't be accurate, quite a few.
From personal experience I knew a guy in La. that had 1 that rattled. That's the only 1 I've been around that did.
None of mine do and never had 1 that rattled. I would not hunt with any rifle that rattled either. I'd either fix it or move it on.
i have owned 20-30 of everything from the 14 to the 7600 and none have rattled. i keep hearing about it but have never seen it. and i live in pump gun country.
I have followed this thread with great interest and thought if I come across a nice pump, I would add one to my battery. There is a 141 35 Remington at a local gun shop and maybe someone can give me some opinions at what I am looking at, good or bad.
I too have no experience with a 141 pump, but I do know that people who have them are very fond of them.
I've been looking for a 760 in 35 Remington for years as I have a Weaver pivot mount for a 760.
However, looking at that gun, and if I am correct a $399 price tag, I would scoff it up in a heartbeat.
Gun looks as though it has seen very little use from what I can see in the pictures, nice walnut, hand checkered, and the wood looks pristine, along with the bluing, except for the pump tube(which would be normal). Whats not to like?
While those guns weren't drilled and tapped, whoever put that mount on seemed to have done a pretty professional job.
That scope mount could also be used as a bargaining chip in that it takes away from the originality and therefore detracts from the value.
If it was me, I'd offer him $350 cash and deal from there, judging from the price reductions, seems like they want to move it.
If the bore is good, I wouldn't think twice about paying $395 for that rifle. The Williams side-mount kills the collector value, but as a hunter it would be a plus for me. The Bushnell ScopeChief is a good scope.
I have a 141, SN 302xx, in 35 and think that it is a well-made hunting rifle.
I've often wondered why the rubber o-ring has not been replaced by a Teflon one. The rubber one usually requires lubrication which can freeze up and cracks when it gets old. Teflon would be a much better choice.
I've got a 760 30-06 I bought new in '77, the year High Brass was born. High Brass loved it and he had it for several years. He mounted a vari-x III 2.5x8 and had the pot & duplex reticle installed. Monday before Thanksgiving I got my best buck ever with it where Chad got a six point a few years ago. I used his reloads and his knife. I took the white line spacers off the stock and shot 3 coats of satin poly urethane on the stock.
Chad bought this 7600 7mm-08 for me since he had the 760. I have a Leupold FX-II 4x with the post & duplex reticle. I had a trigger job done on it and it has very little creep and a lighter trigger pull weight.
the 141 is a fine rifle. them and the 14's are the slickest actions of any gun i have ever handled. i have had a bunch of them and still have several. i take at least one out every year. with a decent scope they will be 1-2 MOA guns usually. the triggers are stiff though. i personally hate those side mounts because of what they do to the receiver. i'd offer $350 OTD for that one. he probably paid some oldtimers grandson $150 for it. 15-20 years ago i used to pick them up at auctions and in the paper for $175-250. the price has went up and if you find a nice original gun you can get $5-600 on GB.
I have one of these and it handles and shoots very well. Very smooth action.
If you just want it as a shooter and not a collector, I'd go for it. I'm thinking an offer of $350 would allow you to bring it home.
If you didn't want the scope on it, just get some filler screws. The stocks on these older guns tend to have a little more drop so with that scope mounted so high, that could be a problem...or maybe not.
Taking a couple of inches off the bbl would make it even handier! For some reason, the pumps that I have cut down seem to shoot even better. Might be the shorter stouter bbl or the fact that it wears a new crown. Maybe both.
the rcbs 200gr shoots real good, they are hard cast, she also shoots 140gr and 180gr pistol bullets for jackhopper's but the speer 180gr flatpoints for deer and elk for the thick stuff
Thanks mooshoo. I'm a fan of the 180 FP Speers, too, but I was thinking of trying a cast lead bullet for deer in my old 141, 35Rem.
I tried a cast bullet (probably too hard) in my old 38-55 this year to take a doe. It worked but penciled through and I had a rather long tracking job with little blood. So I'm thinking maybe a soft cast would work better. Just curious if anyone had some experience with this?
I love my 7600...fast, accurate and hard to beat in cover. I've killed many a deer and coyote with mine. Have to see if I can dig up a few picks from back in the the day.
yeah the pistol bullets are 357 and I never been lucky enough to have that rifle in my hands when deer hunting,and we cast soft and hard, soft has been good on varmints but I would to more on cast for deer, that's why I like the Speer flat points for deer takes the guess work and would leave a good blood trail
I have one of these and it handles and shoots very well. Very smooth action.
If you just want it as a shooter and not a collector, I'd go for it. I'm thinking an offer of $350 would allow you to bring it home.
If you didn't want the scope on it, just get some filler screws. The stocks on these older guns tend to have a little more drop so with that scope mounted so high, that could be a problem...or maybe not.
Taking a couple of inches off the bbl would make it even handier! For some reason, the pumps that I have cut down seem to shoot even better. Might be the shorter stouter bbl or the fact that it wears a new crown. Maybe both.
Hope you get it.
WN
WN, yesterday I offered $399, what he is asking, if he would let it go with 3 boxes of Remington 200gr PSP Core Lokt's and he turned me down.
I've been looking for a 760 in 35 Remington for years as I have a Weaver pivot mount for a 760.
wink_man: Several of my 35Rems, a 358Win, and a 35W wear the old Weaver pivot mounts. They serve a special purpose and they work well, too!
WN
I have one for a 760 on an 870 slug gun that I drilled and tapped the receiver for myself. You're right, they do work and they do hold zero, despite what gun writers of the day said about them.
I have 2 of them for the 742/760 still sealed in the packaging. I didn't use one on my 760 but you never know.
Marc, Do you have the pivot rings for them? I have one pivot base for a 742/760 and a set of pivot rings for it PLUS a spare set of rings if you don't have rings. my stuff too is brand new in the packages yet.
Saw it, and was tempted last year when it came up. I'd go for it, but i'm in Fl. for a couple of months so not close to my ffl, maybe when I get back if it's still around. Thank you for the heads up.
WN, yesterday I offered $399, what he is asking, if he would let it go with 3 boxes of Remington 200gr PSP Core Lokt's and he turned me down.
Roundoak, if you want that gun and need ammo, I have 2 boxes at home, older, but perfect condition and stored properly, one box Remington, one Winchester, both 200 grain, 39 rounds total, I think the winchester box is missing one round.
You're welccme to it but I'm in Fl. and you'd just have to wait till the end of March when I get home to mail it out to you.
I have 2 of them for the 742/760 still sealed in the packaging. I didn't use one on my 760 but you never know.
Marc, Do you have the pivot rings for them? I have one pivot base for a 742/760 and a set of pivot rings for it PLUS a spare set of rings if you don't have rings. my stuff too is brand new in the packages yet.
Thanks for the offer! I have 2 sets of rings. My Dad always used them and I did too when I was younger. My brother still uses them on his 760 270. I never had to to pivot the scope over to take a shot so eventually went away from using them.
Saw it, and was tempted last year when it came up. I'd go for it, but i'm in Fl. for a couple of months so not close to my ffl, maybe when I get back if it's still around. Thank you for the heads up.
I picked up a Model Six last week or I would be all over it.
WN, yesterday I offered $399, what he is asking, if he would let it go with 3 boxes of Remington 200gr PSP Core Lokt's and he turned me down.
Roundoak, if you want that gun and need ammo, I have 2 boxes at home, older, but perfect condition and stored properly, one box Remington, one Winchester, both 200 grain, 39 rounds total, I think the winchester box is missing one round.
You're welccme to it but I'm in Fl. and you'd just have to wait till the end of March when I get home to mail it out to you.
Garry
Garry, the LGS has their heels dug in on the price so I am walking away. Was not too crazy about the Williams side scope mount setup anyway. I appreciate your generous offer.
Most of my 06 kills have been with 180s, they always seem to work. I'll end up with 180 Fusions on this one before it's all done, but will have some fun in the meantime.
My dad (left) and two of his brothers with that seasons antlers, circa 1942 I believe. His older brother Burr's 141 in .30 Rem on the right equipped with a "Climbing Lyman" peep. My fathers Win M64 carbine on the left. Dad told me Burr could outshoot him with that Remington, but he said it was due to it having longer barrel.
I have to agree with Jerry. The grip on the ones I've handled is perfect. I do have squat,thick hands,and a slim grip works well for me. It's a bitch. Makes choosing a handgun a real treat as well. It has its perks though. Once met a feller that I knew was sparking my best friends wife. He didn't have a clue who I was. Let's just say that when we shook hands,he knew something was up. He didn't yelp,but that was one farmer pump he didn't soon forget. Let's just say it lingered a little. Far be it for me to medal in another couple's afairs (pun intended). I figure he signed his check that week left handed.
I would really like to try a M6. Can't find one that suits me though. I can tell you they are holding their value in this part of the country. And not in pristine condition either. The search is kinda fun though.
Jerry, The slim grip feels great to me and the fore end feels great. I really like the cheek piece. Its a much better feeling rifle in the hands than my 760 or the 7600s I've had.
There was a shop in central Maine that used to have racks of pump rifles. You name it, they had it. 760, 141s, 76s, 6, 7600, and Savages. Just about every caliber made. Not sure what happened, but the last few years that dried up and now all they seem to have are a few plain jane 7600s in 270 or 30-06. I remember seeing a line of 35 Remingtons in the $300-$400 range. When I finally decided to buy one, nada. Oh well.
I reloaded 60 rounds of .270 for a friends Rem 760 and I could not reach the throat it was so long. The throat was so long a loaded round using the Hornady .270 140 gr BT would not come out of the ejection port.
Any one else experience longer than usual throats in the 760//7600?
Any one else experience longer than usual throats in the 760//7600?
Doc
A few things come to mind: 1. A detachable box mag (clip) automatically limits COAL
2. Factory ammo has acceptable accuracy with said COAL
3. In several 6s and 7600s (friends), handloads are very accurate.
4. Normal or standard velocity is achieved
SO
I've never 'needed' to check/measure length to lands.
When you are limited by the magazine regardless of the rifle what can you do about it? You can't change it
Jerry
Exactly.
In my 270, the two bullets that shoot the best are the 150gr Speer and the 140gr Nosler AB. Both rather long bullets. I just seat them so they clear the ejection port when I remove a loaded round out of the chamber.
Here is a cool old pic I ran across in a web search.
Here is a Rem 14 Carbine in this Wisconsin deer camp pic.
Wouldn't you love to hop in a time machine and go back and spend a day in deer camp with those guys? Call me weird but I fantasize about stuff like that.
Count me in. Woolrich,longjohns,the rifle and "cartridges". From what I've gathered from old timers,if you were lucky,you had a deer rifle in the household. "Cartridges" too. Not a lot of time standing in front of the gun safe. My grandad had a general store back in the day. If you didn't want the whole box of cartridges,you could buy them by the piece. I used to have an old shotgun shell box from the store that had the price each marked on the lid. Hard times. Simple times.
My grandfather was a old time deer hunter in Pa. At first they used to take the train to Center Co. and hunt out of a man's home.. He came across the river in a boat to pick them up because the train tracks were on the opposite side of the river from the house. It was all walking, no ATV's, no good boots..The country was straight up and straight down.. They used to go for two weeks.. A week for bear and then a week for deer.
I remember when I started, felt boots and over boots were the best thing for stand hunting for deer.. Don't know what happened to mine..
Later, grandfather and some of his cronies, built a bear wagon.. It was an old converted Studabaker hearse .. They made bunks in this and had a cook tent.. One trip, they broke an axle and had to walk out 10 miles to get to town, then find and axle..
There was a camp limit of 6 deer in those days.. Party hunting was common, but not legal.. My Grandfather shot a .30-06 model 54 Win. In those days, a .30-30 was considered a big rifle.
I only wish I would have written the stories he told me down when I was a kid.. I remember many, but there were lots of others.. He passed when I was 12, but his partner lived another 20 years.. He often told me stories about the past hunts, but I failed to write them down also.. I moved from that country 45 years ago, and lost contact with all the old timers.. Lots of history has been lost...
Those old boys wanted to hunt Deer. My Step Dad was one of them. Leave for camp in Clinton County which was a tent and stay for 2-3 weeks. Took the railroad from Wilkinsburg that dropped them of along the track in Sinnamohoning. A guy with a mule wagon would pick them up and take them over and down the mountain about 10miles. And it was on a road they cut themselves. Fortunately most of the big wood had been previously clear cut and the timber at that time was just coming back. Who owned it? Nobody cared, they just did it.
Later on paved roads opened up and they took their Model T's and A's. Band brakes which needed changed frequently and gravity fed gas tanks that required them to backup the steep hills to keep the gas flowing. Cars broke down; they handled it themselves. Essential parts was part of their gear.
Later on they bought one camp, eventually sold it and bought a couple hundred acres and built their own. That land eventually became surrounded by State Forest and the State wanted it bad. They told the State to kiss off. The State hassled them for the longest time, but a couple of them eventually became extremely successful in construction and they pulled their IOUs in and the State left them alone.
Dug out a big lake. Permit? Don't need no stinking permit. Today it would be a big problem.
The old camps have been tore down and rebuilt a couple times. Today there are two camps on that property and both would make a fairly nice home. Some of the original bloodlines still flows in them.
Addition: Built a really well done foot bridge across Cooks Run from their side onto State land. Some lady forester came in and told them to tear it down. They didn't and she had it done. They rebuilt it. Eventually it reached a head and she was transferred and it is still there.
Count me in. Woolrich,longjohns,the rifle and "cartridges". From what I've gathered from old timers,if you were lucky,you had a deer rifle in the household. "Cartridges" too. Not a lot of time standing in front of the gun safe. My grandad had a general store back in the day. If you didn't want the whole box of cartridges,you could buy them by the piece. I used to have an old shotgun shell box from the store that had the price each marked on the lid. Hard times. Simple times.
I well remember the stories my dad told me from when he was a kid in the 1930's. Deer camp was a leased spot up in North East Pa. near Lake Erie, I believe. They took a train in as close as they could get and then hired a horse drawn cart to take them several more miles back into the camp. Most of the guys carried shotguns, or old black powder guns. There were no "modern" rifles among the group-none of these guys could afford them. Deer were scarce, and the hunting was very hard. Dad said if his father cut a track, they'd stay on that track until dark, and come back to it the next day if need be. Dad's first rifle, a hand me down from his father, was a 30-40 Craig. He never saw a rifel scope until he entered the military in 1941. Deer camp was a two week affair. Wood needed to be cut, water brought in, and food gathered for the men. They ate lots of small game-rabbits, squirrels, grouse and the occasional turkey when one could be found. Camp was only broken when provisions ran low. IF they got a deer, they could stay longer. If they didn't, and many times that was the case, they'd have to get word out to the teamsters to come pick them up so they could catch the train on it's once a week run. More than once they waited at the station on the end of the line for several days because they missed the train. There was a house in the little town there that allowed them to sleep in the barn and would cook meals for them in exchange for some chores being done while they waited on the trains return.
Brings A LOT of memories back that don't seem all that long ago! Grew up in Forest County, PA....so no deer camp but had guys come up from Pittsburgh, PA for the week. Always brought an old Willys Jeep with them that was used to transport hunters in and deer out. I was just coming of hunting age then and most of these guys used 760s, a few bolts, but mostly 760s in .270 and .30-06. My stepdad graduated from a 141 in .35 Remington to a 760 in .30-06. I now have those rifles and have taken a few whitetails with them to refresh those memories. No one to give them to so the stories that belong to them will be lost when I go.....seems a shame but someone else will hopefully make some new memories .
Love the 760s have had a bunch in my life in .222, .223, 6mm, 270, 30-06, 300 savage, 35 Remington and 358 Winchester. All of them seem to shoot but my stepdad's in 30-06 shot the best and still amazes me with sub 1/2" groups with ammo it likes(all factory ammo never had a reload in it )
My Dad got a 760 in 30-06 in the early 60s but I didn't know where or from whom. It basically looked new to me but it certainly didn't have much wear.
In Ark. during the 50s-60s deer were 'scarce'. I remember Dad and Grandpa saying that the mere sight of a deer track would draw a crowd just to see one.
That 760 of Dad's plus my using 870s was why I got into pump rifles. I had one 760 in 270 but later moved to the Model Sixes. I had 760 rechambered for the 35 Whelen but other than those 2 all my pumps have been Sixes.
My grandpa in law back from WWII used to take the train from central WI, Stevens Pt area, up to Villas CO to hunt deer.
He would use a borrowed .30 Rem 141 (I think) pump. He'd wear the wools and pack a small bag, jump on the train in Point and ride up to a logging camp that was rented out as a deer camp during the season.
The camp cook would wake them up early in the morning well before daylight, serve piping hot pancakes, eggs, coffee, and milk. They'd all have an apple and a peanut butter sandwich to grab in a paper bag on the way out the door into the woods.
They'd stay in the woods all day still hunting and stalking the clear-cuts. If someone got a buck, they'd gut it and drag it to the trail where it would be picked up with a horse and cart at the end of the day.
They'd come back to a plate of meat, potatoes, beans, and cake for desert. After the deer were picked up and hung, the mess hall was cleared out and the B.S started, the whiskey came out, and the card games began.
I posted this on the when I was a kid thread but that isn't getting much traction. My first deer season:
When I was 12 it was my first year deer hunting. It was 1979 and we hunted in the national forest and stayed in a camper.
I got to go to camp for Thanksgiving weekend. We didn't see anything those 3 days. The following Saturday was the 1st of December and it was the only doe day of the season. On the Friday evening before doe day we pulled the camper up and spent the night. We were up early that Saturday and came outside to several inches of fresh snow.
I still remember every detail of that morning from climbing that ridge to dad dropping me off at the top. He had a stand about 100 yards below where he could keep an eye on me.
Dad had sporterized a 93 Mauser for me but let me carry his Marlin 35 that morning while he took his Model 70 270. This will become an important detail soon.
As soon as he dropped me off I sprayed myself down with G96 Apple deer lure. I hadn't been there 15 minutes when a huge old doe and her fawn from the spring walked right on top of me. I centered the crosshairs on the big does chest and cocked the rifle. With the click all hell broke loose. They ran right down the hollow to dad where he busted the big doe with the 270. She started flopping in the snow and the other one started running back up the other ridge and I started throwing lead at her. I missed clean frown
At that point in my life watching that doe go down in spectacular fashion was coolest thing I'd ever seen.
That day is what made me want to be a deer hunter and I'll never forget it. It's one of both mine and my dads favorite hunting memories.
[quote/] I hadn't been there 15 minutes when a huge old doe and her fawn from the spring walked right on top of me. I centered the crosshairs on the big does chest and cocked the rifle. With the click all hell broke loose. They ran right down the hollow to dad where he busted the big doe with the .270[/quote] That never happens. Deer simply don't react that way to metallic clicks from safeties and hammers at close range. Just ask the experts here who have seen it all like BobinNH and battue.
As to the safety noise, I bet it didn't take long for you to learn to pin that trigger back, while thumbing back the safety and then set it that way, did it?
As to the safety noise, I bet it didn't take long for you to learn to pin that trigger back, while thumbing back the safety and then set it that way, did it?
Before gutting his deer dad showed me trick. That's the only time that has ever happened to me
As to the safety noise, I bet it didn't take long for you to learn to pin that trigger back, while thumbing back the safety and then set it that way, did it?
It's so natural to me I don't even think about it.
[quote/] I hadn't been there 15 minutes when a huge old doe and her fawn from the spring walked right on top of me. I centered the crosshairs on the big does chest and cocked the rifle. With the click all hell broke loose. They ran right down the hollow to dad where he busted the big doe with the .270
That never happens. Deer simply don't react that way to metallic clicks from safeties and hammers at close range. Just ask the experts here who have seen it all like BobinNH and battue. [/quote]
I've shot dozens of deer with a 760 or 7600.
It takes about 4 seconds to learn how to figure out to move the safety without it making noise.
With excitement or being caught off guard, it can happen when you're not ready though. I shot a good 8pt at 10 steps. He heard the "click" but it was too late for him.
It's not that they don't react to it, but it should be too late by that time to matter.
One thing I don't like about crossbolt safeties {and some others} is the "click" when pushed off quickly. Yes, it can be manipulated quietly but takes extra time and hand movement which I don't care for when a deer is within feet. If you think you're quicker on the draw than a deer can react you are simply mistaken. I will take them completely unaware/unalerted every time given the choice thanks. Fast shooting at alerted deer should not be required if you're doing things right.
As to the safety noise, I bet it didn't take long for you to learn to pin that trigger back, while thumbing back the safety and then set it that way, did it?
It's so natural to me I don't even think about it.
The first time I cocked a T C Renegade in the woods... the buck turned 'inside-out'. I knew immediately "don't do that!". grin!
Whether is's an exposed hammer or safeties on 700s/70s, I never have to think about it.. Many Xs I've thot, I don't remember taking the safety off.
A 7600 270 followed me home yesterday. One of the newer models with cut checkered/monte carlo stocks. It came complete with see-through mounts
I'll get it scoped in proper mounts this week and start messing with it over the weekend.
Marc - I've had many 760--M6s. More of them have been 270 than any other cal/cart. The 270s ALL shot the same loads more/less the same.
This Fall I'll be hunting a new to me "6-OH6", (M 6 30-06). I have scoped it, chronographed it, but haven't hunted it yet. I'm using 165 HBTSP over H 205 at 2925 fps.
I'm looking forward to hunting the 06 this year for the first time in a long time. I'd take a pic but we are cloudy and it's threatening rain. I'll post a pic in the near future.
I understand. However after reading my last post I don't think I was specific enuff.
I meant more like this :
The loads that shot well in bolts ALSO shot well in the pumps.
I had 1 b a 270 w/ such a short throat that and the bullets had to be seated so deep that I didn't like how the loaded round looked but it was accurate in that rifle. I didn't try that ammo in a pump so I don't know about that particular 'round'.
Other than that any load that was accurate in B A was accurate in the pumps.
For some reason, the 7600's I've loaded for over the years, have preferred the 140's or the 150's. So if your new 7600 doesn't like 130's don't give up.
57-58gr of H4831 with 140 AB's, 150 Speer SP, or Nosler Partitions all with CCI Mag primers.
I have 150 Partitions and 140s in Sierra GKs and NBTs already loaded. I also have a few boxes of 150 Hot Cores on the shelf. I am blessed with plenty of stuff to feed a 270.
[quote/] I hadn't been there 15 minutes when a huge old doe and her fawn from the spring walked right on top of me. I centered the crosshairs on the big does chest and cocked the rifle. With the click all hell broke loose. They ran right down the hollow to dad where he busted the big doe with the .270
That never happens. Deer simply don't react that way to metallic clicks from safeties and hammers at close range. Just ask the experts here who have seen it all like BobinNH and battue. [/quote]
Here I am just minding my own business ......and along comes the NY expert...LOL!
I never professed to have "seen it all"...those are you words. Not mine .
Anyway here's another one from last year that didn't hear the safety go off on a M70 that was slapped forward.Shot him down in the timber off hand (lets call it 40-50 yards(?). Anyway it's moot if he heard it or not,isn't it? He looks dead to me....what do you think?
270 BTW....that cartridge that some people can't kill deer with.....
Blackheart you are just one reason this place is so funny at times.....
Here's a toad killed with a 7600 Pump in 270 (not mine) last year by my pal, Mr. Kane. he's killed a jillion with that safety....This buck heard the safety ,too I guess....so he hung around a second too long trying to figure out what that noise was I guess. Maybe he is so BIG, and OLD, that his hearing was impaired? You figure it out.
Note the shot placement....guess the buck was looking right at Paul. Must have heard the safety....(?).
Mauser 98 safety....clickety-click....again...270 WCF. This one only dressed 237#'s. My buddy's buck,last year,again.
Oops....almost forgot. But I'm an old and stupid bastard, so please forgive....
80 yards off hand . Maine. This one dressed 210#......Noisy M70 safety. Had to move fast on this one so I slapped that safety off with my thumb ( he was in high swamp grass,on the move).
Guess he never heard it. Not suggesting it can't happen. But I could get hit by lightening too...
Last year again.....tough year. But I struggled through with those noisy safeties. Maybe I will use my 760 280 carbine....next year. I am very old and stupid now...the pump may be easier for me to use........
50 yards, 80 yards of course they didn't hear the safety you retard. You never get close to the fuggers and that doesn't surprise me a bit. You don't fool me Bob. And the big bucks aren't saying all you'd like to think they do about your hunting prowess either. Of course you shoot some big deer. You've got the money to hunt where they get big. You don't pay/travel to hunt where the bucks run small. I've got a friend here with a very impressive trophy room. Like you, he's hunted all over the continent and the world. Come deer season HERE he doesn't produce anything that impressive and he knows it. I've made him look like a rank beginner here season after season and he knows that too.
Vintage lever guns are more better.....unless you're from Minesoda.....
Something like a nice old Model 64 would be good......
I've never seen a 760 that wouldn't shoot minute of deer. And in 10 years as a rangemaster, I've handled a lot of them. That being said, my 7 decade old Model 99 keeps making little bitty groups and killing deer.
I'd say 75% of the deer I've killed I didn't even have a round in the chamber when we first met.
Noises and even motion ain't much of a problem, mostly.
I figured out long ago that you can rack a round into the chamber while looking at a deer, so long as you don't do it with the urgency of a retard in a red, rubber ball factory.
You can get away with many sins if you got the nose defeated.
50 yards, 80 yards of course they didn't hear the safety you retard. You never get close to the fuggers and that doesn't surprise me a bit. You don't fool me bob. And the big old deer aren't saying all you'd like to think they do about your hunting prowess either. Of course you shoot some big deer. You've got the money to hunt where they get big. You don't pay/travel to hunt where the bucks run small. I've got a friend here with a very impressive trophy room. Like you he's hunted all over the continent and the world. Come deer season HERE he doesn't produce anything that impressive and he knows it. I've made him look like a rank beginner here season after season and he knows that too.
I knew you'd fall back on that...the class envy shidt is your mantra. It's noble to stay at home and shoot a bunch of dinks....haha. I have done plenty of the,too.
You just get eaten up with bitterness at someone else's success, don't you? Really grates your nerves huh? What a jealous and pathetic excuse for a human being you are.....a real first class jerk off.
Maine is "home" to me. And NH, Vt etc. here's a clue which you'd know if you had any experience both places.......it's a LOT harder to kill a buck in Maine than NY....that's why people I know go to NY...... because they flunk out in Maine while NY is over run with them....like rabbits. they get doe tags they can fill in NY like breaking sticks. I've hunted both places, so please....don't tell me any different.
Any dope can kill a deer in NY...the Maine statewide success on ANY deer is only about 12%...on bucks like mine MUCH lower.
Any working stiff can afford Maine...I hunt it for the cost of transportation, food, and lodging. The same money as a week in NY.
For that matter, the same as it cost me to hunt Kansas with Skane and his father, Paul....because I was invited by a generous land owner. No guide fees, no trespass fees.
And the same as it cost me to hunt Wyoming the last 30+ years. Transportation, food, and lodging....I have never paid a guide nor trespass fee in those places. And the overwhelming majority of the big bucks I've killed have been on very inexpensive hunts within reach of any working stiff who posts here. matter of fact, most ALL my biggest bucks have been killed on my cheapest hunts and mostly ALL non guided...how'd that happen?
So don't be lecturing me about "having money". Because I am not, and never have been "rich".
But I have worked hard at my deer hunting,,,wherever I did it and no matter how much I paid to do it.
So, don't be giving me that holier than thou crap about having money. I get off my ass,do my homework, and behave like a decent human being....which is maybe why a lot of people don't get invited anywhere, They behave like jerks.
Don't be disillusioned by your own misconceptions about your own hunting prowess. i think mine are average at best. Learned a long time ago the keys to success in killing big bucks are simple...You don't have to be a "great hunter" like you think you are, possessing great skills.....You need to ..leqrn to shoot half way straight, and show up where they live, and work hard at it.
This ain't rocket science possessing great skill. But it salves your ego to believe it does,
You aren't ever going to kill them sitting at home and being envious of other people. Do your home work. Spend the time it takes and get off your ass, and go someplace. You're within driving distance of Maine. Get off your butt and go.
Morning gents, heard my name called and decided to do a little inquiry. Only thing I've discovered so far is Blackheart still is dumbfounded-nothing new there-when it comes to getting a safety off quietly and quickly. Poor soul and he has had so much practice. Or so he tells us. Can't remember when he's actually showed us. Perhaps I've missed it??
I'd say 75% of the deer I've killed I didn't even have a round in the chamber when we first met.
Noises and even motion ain't much of a problem, mostly.
I figured out long ago that you can rack a round into the chamber while looking at a deer, so long as you don't do it with the urgency of a retard in a red, rubber ball factory.
You can get away with many sins if you got the nose defeated.
Steelhead: Now you know that can't be true. Sorry, my apologies you have shown the proof of doing so. Again, my apologies.
Actually I'm pretty content with the hunting here Bob and feel no need to go someplace else. My walls are pretty well covered with antlers now and I don't neeed more of those either. You should check the facts about the deer numbers and harvest rates in NY before you spout off about how easy it is compared to other places. Sure it's great in some areas but it's comparable to Maine in others. I don't hunt in one of the high numbers areas nor is it a real low numbers area either. Western and central NY do have high deer density and it is easy to kill deer there. I feel the true measure of how good a hunter you are is how well you do in your area compared to other hunters in your area and in that regard I've always done very well. I don't need to go somewhere else and shoot a monster buck to feel like a good, accomplished hunter. Besides that , I only get two weeks vacation a year. I spend one week of it in the summer with my wife doing stuff she wants to do and the other week during deer season right here.
50 yards, 80 yards of course they didn't hear the safety you retard. You never get close to the fuggers and that doesn't surprise me a bit. You don't fool me Bob.....
You want a picture of the 210 pounder I snow tracked in New Brunswick and killed at 20 feet with the loud M70 safety?
I'll see if I can dig it up for you.... Laffin.....
Yeah I really hunted all over the place for 40+ years just to fool a dope like you....
How the fugg is a picture of a dead deer going to prove you shot it at 20 feet in New Brunswick ? You dumbfu-ck little children amuse me with all your pics.
I figured out long ago that you can rack a round into the chamber while looking at a deer, so long as you don't do it with the urgency of a retard in a red, rubber ball factory
Depends on the deer. Some will let you, some won't.
Live Deer Pics really are worth a thousand words....
20yards:
Perhaps 30yards: (maybe a bit further)
Pretty close:
Not very far.
Maybe 15 yards max.
This guy was out a bit, but I was in an beeeg open field. Moving around a bit to get the camera out and such. You know how that goes BH. Sure do wish it was rifle season however.
I do wonder how many of the pump gun advocates here are stand hunters vs drivers/trackers/still hunters. For a stand hunter the pump offers no advantages over a bolt gun.
How the fugg is a picture of a dead deer going to prove you shot it at 20 feet in New Brunswick ? You dumbfu-ck little children amuse me with all your pics.
Well .........then I guess you think I'm a liar...like there's something to be gained by that?
Whether you believe me or not, is of no significance to me. You don't rank high enough for me to care.
Next time I snow track one, if I do, I'll be sure to have the GoPro on my hat for you to view.....just for you. Hilarious.....
I figured out long ago that you can rack a round into the chamber while looking at a deer, so long as you don't do it with the urgency of a retard in a red, rubber ball factory
Depends on the deer. Some will let you, some won't.
You must of missed this part of my post.
"Noises and even motion ain't much of a problem, mostly."
I've probably shot 5 times the deer you have and earn my living building guns yet you are more relavent on a gun/hunting site ? Yeah, I'm just a troll. Brilliant.
The trouble is you can't tell which ones will let you get away with it and which ones won't untill it's too late. So "mostly" it's best not to let them hear you or see you move.
I've probably shot 5 times the deer you have and earn my living building guns yet you are more relavent on a gun/hunting site ? Yeah, I'm a troll. Brilliant.
You built any for Campfire members? Seems like this would be fertile ground for a person of your abilities. Pics of your work? (Never mind, forgot you don't do pics.) Local legend? No filthy rich customers begging you to put up a rifle for them?
I've probably shot 5 times the deer you have and earn my living building guns yet you are more relavent on a gun/hunting site ? Yeah, I'm a troll. Brilliant.
You built any for Campfire members? Seems like this would be fertile ground for a person of your abilities. Pics of your work? (Never mind, forgot you don't do pics.) Local legend? No filthy rich customers begging you to put up a rifle for them?
I don't build rifles anymore. Used to years ago. Only do 1911's now. There are several campfire members who own pistols likely built by me but they don't know it as I work for someone else and the pistols I build don't bear my name. I have done many custom builds for customers who specifically requested I personally do the work.
Truthfully I usually don't need a week to fill all my tags. Had a buck tag and two doe tags last season and filled all 3 in a total of 7 hours in the woods. Spent the rest of my vacation time Christmas shopping which I enjoy almost as much as deer hunting.
Good for you, I passed up Doe after Doe last year and a couple smaller Bucks and hunted every day of the Deer season but one. Fine season it was. Oh forgot, had the safety off on a few that were close. Some looking at me, some not. Only 7 hours in the Deer wood would not be considered the best of seasons. But dumb ass me has been known to go out most days even with a punched tag.
Sent the Doe tag in a day late this year thinking why and then thought I'd better just in case I go evil.
Christmas shopping is done way before hunting season for the most part and for a couple reasons. One I don't enjoy it all that much if I wait.
I like doing my Christmas shopping in late November and December. Seeing all the hustle and bustle and the lights and decorations is a big part of the fun for me. As to the hunting, you've got to remember I can go any day I want all year long. Deer, waterfowl, small game/upland, predators/varmints, it ain't all about deer to me and I enjoy it all. I live where I can hunt right out the back or front door and many places between work and home. I get done with work in time to go hunting afterwards any day I want and often do. I also have every weekend to hunt and I get four days off at thanksgiving and from Christmas eve to the day after New Years all paid.
I haven't killed very many deer. But I haven't spooked one with the safety or forgot to take the safety off when needed.
Also, pump guns do have advantages. If the shot is flubbed (stand hunters have branches around) a quick second shot could save the day. Scope mag up close can have folks shooting through unseen lumber. Bullets whacking stuff a couple feet from the hunter.
Maybe as the deer came by (on the move) it darted at the last possible nanosecond causing a miss, or bad hit.
Maybe the hunter just flat out traded his trigger finger for a crowbar.
A fast reflex reload can save the day, no need to lift face off the stock. Pretty darn quick.
I shot an 8 pt on a 2 man drive in a tree farm, hit him 3 times, he hauling arse two rows in the big trees (I had moved down and just started fwd, in the shade kill area).
Nailed that dude 3 times, with a pump 870. Group you could cover with palm of hand..........right at front edge of shoulder/neck.
Yeah, first was good enough.
But deer hunting is sometimes like sex, the more noise you make the more fun you must be having.
If my first shot had hit a tree, the other two would have gotten him.
Haven't always bought the pump is faster theory. Especially on aimed shots with some recoil thrown in. But one would have to work a pump pretty fast to beat this bolt.
I'm not going to start nor enter a 'discussion', aka argument.
A proficient pump shooter will instinctively have a next round chambered with a pump - from recovering from recoil w/o changing positions of either hand.
Those who cut their teeth hunting pump shotguns use a pump rifle with incredible efficiency.
It's also similar to some dropping a lever rifle TO actuate the lever action compared to those who keep the rifle shouldered and actuate the lever.
It's a matter of familiarity.
I use bolts more than pumps and I don't have to drop the rifle from my shoulder to re chamber BUT One must release the stock with one hand to operate the bolt THEN replace that hand on the stock to shoot again.
IMHO the difference between "proficient" bolt and pump shooters will only be a matter of a fraction of a second. Emphasis on proficient.
Just throwing it out there for entertainment value. 🙄😀 And I agree when it comes to proficiency, the race could be won by either or, depending on who is doing the which.
I also can get two off quicker with a SxS vs pump in the uplands. However, not sure if I consistently shoot the quickest best.
Age old discussion. 🤔
Another: Which is faster, pump or semi? Semi is limited by the mechanism. Pump is only limited by the shooters reflex.
I've used bolts, pumps and levers all my life and am quite proficient with each. There isn't much difference between them in speed of aimed repeat fire but there is a diffence. The pump is the fastest by a slight margin, followed closely by the lever which in turn is followed closely by the bolt. It's very seldom that the difference is of any consequence in the field but it can be occasionally.
Then some here say the second shot is only noise. And they always finish-and the rest of us should also-the deed with the first. They also say the second chance will never be better than the first. Guess they never had one move off after the first and then stop in a more open position. That gets me as much as all day, every day .5inch sporting rifles.
Sorry, can't help myself. Ahh, I could but don't want to....
Then some here say the second shot is only noise. And they always finish-and the rest of us should also-the deed with the first. They also say the second chance will never be better than the first. Guess they never had one move off after the first and then stop in a more open position. That gets me as much as all day, every day .5inch sporting rifles.
Sorry, can't help myself. Ahh, I could but don't want to....
I never 'count' , depend, or expect to rely on a second shot. The vast majority are first shot kills. However, I have killed a very few with a 2nd shot. I can not remember ever killing on a 3rd shot.
That's why I'm completely comfortable hunting bolts. I have a few pumps (M 6s) and hunt them occasionally, mostly to carry something different. I do like 'clips', detachable box mags and can't really explain why.
Familiarity, familiarity, familiarity, regardless of rifle.
Mostly first. Sometimes hit with first, finish with second. Have fired four on a runner in an open field. Solid hit on number two according to snow spray and finished it standing with 4. Getting closer with each jump. 50%er.
I rarely need a second shot and have done most of my hunting with bolt actions. I like the way the pumps carry and handle as much as anything, they are also proving to be accurate. It doesn't hurt all of the hunting I've done with pump shotguns.
When I started deer hunting everyone carried a lever, pump, or 742, the rich guys had Browning BARs
When I started hunting in New England in the late 1960s, Remington 760s were commonly seen in the woods or at deer camps. As were a variety of semi-automatic and lever action rifles. Bolt action rifles were quite uncommon back then.
I like the Remington 760/7600 series, but think that what the 14/141 series lack in strength is more than offset in "character".
Last year, I bought a 760 in 30-06 that had lived in Sweden and was repatriated by Simpson's. This particular 760 has the stock covered with moose/elk decal tags. Kind of an interesting piece.
When I started hunting in New England in the late 1960s, Remington 760s were commonly seen in the woods or at deer camps. As were a variety of semi-automatic and lever action rifles. Bolt action rifles were quite uncommon back then.
I like the Remington 760/7600 series, but think that what the 14/141 series lack in strength is more than offset in "character".
Last year, I bought a 760 in 30-06 that had lived in Sweden and was repatriated by Simpson's. This particular 760 has the stock covered with moose/elk decal tags. Kind of an interesting piece.
When I started hunting in New England in the late 1960s, Remington 760s were commonly seen in the woods or at deer camps. As were a variety of semi-automatic and lever action rifles. Bolt action rifles were quite uncommon back then.
I like the Remington 760/7600 series, but think that what the 14/141 series lack in strength is more than offset in "character".
Last year, I bought a 760 in 30-06 that had lived in Sweden and was repatriated by Simpson's. This particular 760 has the stock covered with moose/elk decal tags. Kind of an interesting piece.
You need to post a pic of that one, it has Mojo
I'd enjoy a pict or two of that one as well. C'mon Jeff.
Not hard to find here...jump on the Kittery Trading Post website, or Cabela's Scarborough, Maine. Both good shops that list used rifles. One will show up for sure.
See them all the time at these places and they will ship to your FFL.
Has anybody had a trigger job done on their 760/7600?
If so, who did it, how much did he charge, and was it worth the price?
Asking because there is a guy on GB, $dealmaker, who is selling a 760/7600 "trigger service" for $65, plus the cost of shipping/insurance to and from Albany, OH, that he makes great claims for.
Has anybody had a trigger job done on their 760/7600?
If so, who did it, how much did he charge, and was it worth the price?
Asking because there is a guy on GB, $dealmaker, who is selling a 760/7600 "trigger service" for $65, plus the cost of shipping/insurance to and from Albany, OH, that he makes great claims for.
Paul, I understand completely... Anymore when my kid starts fondling a rifle I tell him to put it back where he got it. Otherwise the last time I'll see it is headed out the door.
My remington 7600 in 35 whelen has served me well here in PA over the years. I bought it new back in 93. Here is a Lawrence county buck and a Butler county buck. The whelen just drops them
50 yards, 80 yards of course they didn't hear the safety you retard. You never get close to the fuggers and that doesn't surprise me a bit. You don't fool me Bob. And the big bucks aren't saying all you'd like to think they do about your hunting prowess either. Of course you shoot some big deer. You've got the money to hunt where they get big. You don't pay/travel to hunt where the bucks run small. I've got a friend here with a very impressive trophy room. Like you, he's hunted all over the continent and the world. Come deer season HERE he doesn't produce anything that impressive and he knows it. I've made him look like a rank beginner here season after season and he knows that too.
That's just silly Blackheart. You cast a pretty wide net with that statement. A good Hunter is a good Hunter, period. I've ran around and hunted the same country as you and taken many deer and still do. Saying because someone has money they can be less of a hunter is ridiculous. Bob takes bucks everywhere and hunts his butt off in the woods and spends the time being proficient with his equipment. This safety non sense is just that, non sense.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I that think that it is easier to "hunt" deer in KS/NE/SD because there are more deer and less cover. It is nothing special to see 100+ deer in the harvested soy bean fields along the Platte River here in Nebraska. The catch being that most of the land is privately owned and permission to hunt can be difficult, if not impossible, to obtain.
50 yards, 80 yards of course they didn't hear the safety you retard. You never get close to the fuggers and that doesn't surprise me a bit. You don't fool me Bob. And the big bucks aren't saying all you'd like to think they do about your hunting prowess either. Of course you shoot some big deer. You've got the money to hunt where they get big. You don't pay/travel to hunt where the bucks run small. I've got a friend here with a very impressive trophy room. Like you, he's hunted all over the continent and the world. Come deer season HERE he doesn't produce anything that impressive and he knows it. I've made him look like a rank beginner here season after season and he knows that too.
That's just silly Blackheart. You cast a pretty wide net with that statement. A good Hunter is a good Hunter, period. I've ran around and hunted the same country as you and taken many deer and still do. Saying because someone has money they can be less of a hunter is ridiculous. Bob takes bucks everywhere and hunts his butt off in the woods and spends the time being proficient with his equipment. This safety non sense is just that, non sense.
While there are indeed guys like that, and I hate to rain on the blackheart-narrow-minded-local-yokel parade, Bob's simply not one of those guys.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I that think that it is easier to "hunt" deer in KS/NE/SD because there are more deer and less cover. It is nothing special to see 100+ deer in the harvested soy bean fields along the Platte River here in Nebraska. The catch being that most of the land is privately owned and permission to hunt can be difficult, if not impossible, to obtain.
Jeff, I hunted Nebraska last year for the first time. We had an opportunity to hunt along the Platte River for bow, but did not go. We went for gun and hunted along the South Loup river. From what I saw, I agree with you, especially coming from Illinois. However, I never seen such spooky deer in my life. You could be 300+ yards away driving down a road and when you stop, they all go tail up and take off. I am guessing the area we hunted has it's fair share of road hunters...
IIRC the .35 Rem 7600 was a Grice Wholesale run. See a few GB once in a while. Wanted one after they'd made the run (late to the party). Have decided to rebarrel a Ruger #1 instead. I'll settle on a .30-06 carbine 7600
I shot the new 7600 270 this morning with 150 Partitions. It shot those right at an inch. I have a bunch of 270 stuff and I'm going to play with it awhile
See through mounts are gone and it looks like this now:
50 yards, 80 yards of course they didn't hear the safety you retard. You never get close to the fuggers and that doesn't surprise me a bit. You don't fool me Bob. And the big bucks aren't saying all you'd like to think they do about your hunting prowess either. Of course you shoot some big deer. You've got the money to hunt where they get big. You don't pay/travel to hunt where the bucks run small. I've got a friend here with a very impressive trophy room. Like you, he's hunted all over the continent and the world. Come deer season HERE he doesn't produce anything that impressive and he knows it. I've made him look like a rank beginner here season after season and he knows that too.
That's just silly Blackheart. You cast a pretty wide net with that statement. A good Hunter is a good Hunter, period. I've ran around and hunted the same country as you and taken many deer and still do. Saying because someone has money they can be less of a hunter is ridiculous. Bob takes bucks everywhere and hunts his butt off in the woods and spends the time being proficient with his equipment. This safety non sense is just that, non sense.
Call it what you want. The fact is , folks don't travel all over the continent to hunt where the bucks run small. How many 140" plus, 200 + pound bucks do you suppose you'd take off State land in NY's Catskills as opposed to Alberta or Kansas for instance ? A good hunting ground will always make a hunter look better than a poor one. The friend I spoke of in the above post has hunted some of the best whitetail ground the continent has to offer and has taken several bucks in the 140-160" range. He has yet to kill a buck over 130" around here in a lifetime.
I wish I could find a pump around here, they just don't exist.
Might be time for Gunbroker.
Scott next time you get to your wife's family take a drive to the hamburg cabelas. Usually a coupleasure racks of used pumps and lots of times you'll find really nice ones at fair prices.
I got one there a few years ago with a leupy 2x7 for 350
IIRC the .35 Rem 7600 was a Grice Wholesale run. See a few GB once in a while. Wanted one after they'd made the run (late to the party). Have decided to rebarrel a Ruger #1 instead. I'll settle on a .30-06 carbine 7600
Grice had a one time run of these in Bob too. I wish I'd have picked one up.
He has yet to kill a buck over 130" around here in a lifetime.
And how many have you taken?
Two over 130 and a couple in the 120's. I've hunted with this guy for years and he ain't that good. You'd sure think so by looking at his trophy room though. The point being it makes a big difference where you hunt. This is not the area to come to if you want to shoot big bucks. Western NY and the finger lakes region are alot better in that regard but still isn't a good trophy destination when viewed on a national scale.
Had a a Rem. 760 for a number of years. Way too heavy and rattled like scrap metal. Trigger sucked and never grouped well. Too much disassembly to clean thoroughly. Bad stock and painful metal butt plate, so it kicked like a mule and left bruises even when held tight. Fine other than that.
I much prefer the Carbines. My dad always swore by the 30-06 Carbine while he was still in his right mind. Once my mom died he went off the rails and has stayed there. Even sold his Carbine for drug money. I chose to remember him the way he used to be and those Carbines symbolize that for me.
I've thought about a pump in 243 with a 3x9 for a permanent truck gun. A few ten round magazines and some 80 grain pills would work well for woodchus to didndunuffins
Uh-well.... He told me he bought it from some old lady that only shot it on Sunday's. BUT he failed to mention that it'll rock your wisdom teeth. Kicks like a pissed off mule!
Uh-well.... He told me he bought it from some old lady that only shot it on Sunday's. BUT he failed to mention that it'll rock your wisdom teeth. Kicks like a pissed off mule!
Mine and the one you have were bought at the same time and accounted for many local bucks over the years. Try some Brenneke 1 1/4oz slugs for an unforgetable experience.
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
Load workup done!
How can the load work up be done? You missed the dime all three shots.
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
Load workup done!
How can the load work up be done? You missed the dime all three shots.
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
Always liked the 760s (I'm a lefty) and always wanted a 6mm. Found this minty '73 6mm and a happy guy I am. Mounted a 25 year-old unused Leupold 3-9x in Leupold rings, had the safety reversed and I'm good to go for a TX whitetail later this year. It shoots factory 100 grain Federals quite well. Bob
Always liked the 760s (I'm a lefty) and always wanted a 6mm. Found this minty '73 6mm and a happy guy I am. Mounted a 25 year-old unused Leupold 3-9x in Leupold rings, had the safety reversed and I'm good to go for a TX whitetail later this year. It shoots factory 100 grain Federals quite well. Bob
Always liked the 760s (I'm a lefty) and always wanted a 6mm. Found this minty '73 6mm and a happy guy I am. Mounted a 25 year-old unused Leupold 3-9x in Leupold rings, had the safety reversed and I'm good to go for a TX whitetail later this year. It shoots factory 100 grain Federals quite well. Bob
I'm used to a row of them on the used rack of a shop . It's a shock to walk into a shop down here and not see any. I actually sold my 760 to help with the money to move down here. It was a 1953.
Nice to see a thread that doesn't involve Kimber or hubble scopes. Good stuff here.
You don't need that stuff in Maine. It will never help a guy up there.
Yep, in fact they're a liability a lot of the time when you're hunting places so thick that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to. Biggest reason guys at our camp didn't get shots....."Couldn't find'em in the scope". This thread makes me miss my 280 I just sold, but I had to reduce, more use for the other 3 7600s I'm keeping though. Up to Maine for bear in about 2 months and then back up for deer in Nov.
Nice to see a thread that doesn't involve Kimber or hubble scopes. Good stuff here.
You don't need that stuff in Maine. It will never help a guy up there.
Yep, in fact they're a liability a lot of the time when you're hunting places so thick that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to. Biggest reason guys at our camp didn't get shots....."Couldn't find'em in the scope". This thread makes me miss my 280 I just sold, but I had to reduce, more use for the other 3 7600s I'm keeping though. Up to Maine for bear in about 2 months and then back up for deer in Nov.
Likely not very good hunters/shooters. Just because I guy has been doing something for 40 years, don't mean he's worth a shiet.
The 'Couldn't find them in the scope' tells me they are pretty much idiots.
Someone had a Savage 170 for sale here a while ago.
I wish I could find one of those local.
I've owned several Savage 170s, including a couple in 35, and all of them cycled fine. I recently gave a pair of 170s in 30-30 and a Remington 572 to brothers in Vermont as a means by which to get them off on the right foot. I zeroed all 3 rifles before I sent them off to their local dealer and the 30-30s were shooting about 1.5MOA with Federal blue box 170 grain factory ammo. The family subsistence farms, a tough thing in northern New England, and home-schools the boys, so they have plenty of time to hunt, fish, and trap.
I gave them the option of NIB Marlin XS7s in 7mm-08, Mossberg 472s in 30-30, or the Savage 170s in 30-30. They picked the Savages.
In my part of PA nice 760's and 7600's are pretty easy to find. If you look you can even find one that has had a butt pad changed and get it for cheap because it is no longer original. Only problem is most are 30-06.
When we were teens my best friend used a Savage 170 30-30 and I used a 760 30-06. I remember his Savage having a terrible trigger and it wasn't half the gun my 760 was.
I would agree that the Savage 170 triggers aren't match grade and the overall package isn't as tight as the any of the Remington CF pump guns. But they are pretty accurate and they are a bit lighter than the Remington CF pump guns.
I think the reason some don't think pumps are accurate is "preconceived idea". For many years WE read, yeah read, only bolt actions were accurate. With that "fact" planted and fertilized, many haven't tried the pumps.
I was fortunate in that my Dad got a 760 in 06 back in the early 60s so I had first hand experience with a Rem pump deer rifle so I knew better than what some said in mags.
Some things you have to prove/disprove to yourself.
Nice to see a thread that doesn't involve Kimber or hubble scopes. Good stuff here.
You don't need that stuff in Maine. It will never help a guy up there.
Yep, in fact they're a liability a lot of the time when you're hunting places so thick that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to. Biggest reason guys at our camp didn't get shots....."Couldn't find'em in the scope". This thread makes me miss my 280 I just sold, but I had to reduce, more use for the other 3 7600s I'm keeping though. Up to Maine for bear in about 2 months and then back up for deer in Nov.
Likely not very good hunters/shooters. Just because I guy has been doing something for 40 years, don't mean he's worth a shiet.
The 'Couldn't find them in the scope' tells me they are pretty much idiots.
It's happened to me twice in thick woods and fading light and many times according to the outfitter with scopes. Open sights often work better for us idiots.
Nice to see a thread that doesn't involve Kimber or hubble scopes. Good stuff here.
You don't need that stuff in Maine. It will never help a guy up there.
Yep, in fact they're a liability a lot of the time when you're hunting places so thick that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to. Biggest reason guys at our camp didn't get shots....."Couldn't find'em in the scope". This thread makes me miss my 280 I just sold, but I had to reduce, more use for the other 3 7600s I'm keeping though. Up to Maine for bear in about 2 months and then back up for deer in Nov.
Likely not very good hunters/shooters. Just because I guy has been doing something for 40 years, don't mean he's worth a shiet.
The 'Couldn't find them in the scope' tells me they are pretty much idiots.
It's happened to me twice in thick woods and fading light and many times according to the outfitter with scopes. Open sights often work better for us idiots.
Can't find them in the scope isn't a function of how thick the cover is. In fact if one has problems in the thick they probably would also if the Deer was standing in a football field. Too many xxxx's is another issue, but having a scope cranked up in the thick is a fools game.
Shooting prone at 500 with a friends rifle the other day-set on 18 if I remember right-caused me a little problem in that I'm not used to that many xxxx's with an unfamiliar sweet spot, but it quickly started to come around. The sweet spot and FOV on a low power woods scope is huge and the Deer should be there when you shoulder the rifle. Providing one messes around with the rifle more than infrequently and knows how to point with the leading hand. Seen more than a few on the range who don't.
Fading light is another issue, but open sights in fading light is a young mans game. At my age I'd take the scope. 3-4x preferable.
I don't doubt the outfitter is right.
Assisted on a Maine Moose hunt and have hunted Grouse there. It didn't scare me for thick compared to some places I hunt in Pa.
Nice to see a thread that doesn't involve Kimber or hubble scopes. Good stuff here.
You don't need that stuff in Maine. It will never help a guy up there.
Yep, in fact they're a liability a lot of the time when you're hunting places so thick that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to. Biggest reason guys at our camp didn't get shots....."Couldn't find'em in the scope". This thread makes me miss my 280 I just sold, but I had to reduce, more use for the other 3 7600s I'm keeping though. Up to Maine for bear in about 2 months and then back up for deer in Nov.
Likely not very good hunters/shooters. Just because I guy has been doing something for 40 years, don't mean he's worth a shiet.
The 'Couldn't find them in the scope' tells me they are pretty much idiots.
It's happened to me twice in thick woods and fading light and many times according to the outfitter with scopes. Open sights often work better for us idiots.
NO one shouldn't be 'finding' deer through a scope. If you know how to mount a rifle the deer is there when you bring the rifle up.
Nice to see a thread that doesn't involve Kimber or hubble scopes. Good stuff here.
You don't need that stuff in Maine. It will never help a guy up there.
Yep, in fact they're a liability a lot of the time when you're hunting places so thick that you couldn't fall down if you wanted to. Biggest reason guys at our camp didn't get shots....."Couldn't find'em in the scope". This thread makes me miss my 280 I just sold, but I had to reduce, more use for the other 3 7600s I'm keeping though. Up to Maine for bear in about 2 months and then back up for deer in Nov.
Likely not very good hunters/shooters. Just because I guy has been doing something for 40 years, don't mean he's worth a shiet.
The 'Couldn't find them in the scope' tells me they are pretty much idiots.
It's happened to me twice in thick woods and fading light and many times according to the outfitter with scopes. Open sights often work better for us idiots.
my grice special 7600 carbine in 35 has a $30 bushy sportview 4x32 on tally lows and that little sucker is perfect on that gun. comes up perfectly centered and on target. i had a trigger job done on it and it is a tack driver with 200 CL's. low light, short shots, bright light, long shots, no problem.
I was in a shop last week that had a good line up of 760/7600s. What caught my eye were 760s in 35 Remington, 300 Savage and a 7600 in 257 Roberts. Each was listed at $750.
I have not seen that many pump rifles i n one place in a long time.
Count me as a fan. I've still got one in .257 Roberts and had one in 30'06. My only complaint is they are awkward to use from sitting with a sling. Accurate and very reliable. E
Here's one for you.....built by Smith's Custom Guns in Warren, PA for an apparently "savvy" Amish man .
.240 Weatherby w/ a Schmidt/Bender scope, fluted barrel and graphite pattern synthetic stock. Just test fired the other day and was groping between 0.5 and 0.75" for 3 shots at 100yds. Should be a deer killing machine!
All needed in Maine is a Remington M870 and 000 buckshot!
Boy, you really went and done it now! Buckshot? Out of an 870? It's a well known Campfire fact that it's impossible to kill a deer with any firearm that costs less the $1,000.00! And it's not even a Beretta!
Here's one for you.....built by Smith's Custom Guns in Warren, PA for an apparently "savvy" Amish man .
.240 Weatherby w/ a Schmidt/Bender scope, fluted barrel and graphite pattern synthetic stock. Just test fired the other day and was groping between 0.5 and 0.75" for 3 shots at 100yds. Should be a deer killing machine!
Yea I got a chuckle out of this outfit....all the components make some sense by themselves but together its just not "right" - that all said I bet this Amishman piles them up with this one (most of the Amish guys use 760s in .270 but I can't figure out how they hit much of anything with some of condition/scopes that these rifles are in!!)
Yea I got a chuckle out of this outfit....all the components make some sense by themselves but together its just not "right" - that all said I bet this Amishman piles them up with this one (most of the Amish guys use 760s in .270 but I can't figure out how they hit much of anything with some of condition/scopes that these rifles are in!!)
The Amish use .30-06 pumps almost exclusively in the Lancaster/Lebanon area that I hail from.
Me too! Bought five over the last couple of years. AND, no, they aren't for sale.
That was mean, you hurt my feeling
Marc, they do show up from time to time on the used racks around here, even at the big C stores. I'll let you know if I run into another one. The grand kids are maxed out!
We finally got one of those Cabelas stores less than 90 minutes away but the used selection is sparse, heck the selection of new stuff isn't great either.
The one right outside of Chattanooga is the same as Bristol, I didn't even stop when I went through Rock Hill. After going to Hamburg and Wheeling the new ones really suck.
Look at the size of the "big" Cabela's. Man, you've got to move a lot of merchandise to support stores that size. Not every store has to be that giant. If the economy and more importantly the tourism in the area can't support a big store, this is what you get. Does everyone really need 87 different kinds of jerky to choose from at the front door?
Look at the size of the "big" Cabela's. Man, you've got to move a lot of merchandise to support stores that size. Not every store has to be that giant. If the economy and more importantly the tourism in the area can't support a big store, this is what you get. Does everyone really need 87 different kinds of jerky to choose from at the front door?
They should as least be able to carry as many guns and reloading supplies as Sportsmans Warehouse. It's nice to have it this close but not its not nearly what I expected.
Look at the size of the "big" Cabela's. Man, you've got to move a lot of merchandise to support stores that size. Not every store has to be that giant. If the economy and more importantly the tourism in the area can't support a big store, this is what you get. Does everyone really need 87 different kinds of jerky to choose from at the front door?
They should as least be able to carry as many guns and reloading supplies as Sportsmans Warehouse. It's nice to have it this close but not its not nearly what I expected.
Years ago it was cool for us to stop at Gander when we were "Up North", especially after the catalog died. The ones they built here to start with were OK but the prices were ridiculous.
Mine is an early model (I forget if it was 1954 or '56?) that had some pitting and not much finish so I touched it up a little, and set it up for heavy subsonic loads. Kills deer about like you'd expect - pretty dead.
Mine is an early model (I forget if it was 1954 or '56?) that had some pitting and not much finish so I touched it up a little, and set it up for heavy subsonic loads. Kills deer about like you'd expect - pretty dead.
Now that is a 760 configuration that I would never have imagined! If a CO saw that in a back window gun rack he first thought would almost certainly be "poacher". With that thought in mind, it would be kinda fun to mess with their heads, but if they were watching you (or me) they wouldn't be watching the real poachers.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
As I've said before, I don't give a shiet about 150+ years ago, I just wish there weren't so damn many WHITE, LIBERAL YANKEES.
I went to Cabelas in Rock Hill SC and I was shocked. It wasn't but half the size of a normal Cabelas.
Drive 17 miles south on 77 and go to a real store . Nichols store.If they were within a 2 mile drive of any Cabelas they would close shop in less then 24 hours.
As I've said before, I don't give a shiet about 150+ years ago, I just wish there weren't so damn many WHITE, LIBERAL YANKEES.
Thanks to them, we have Obama.
You mean those liberal yankees like LBJ, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Lloyd Bentsen, John Edwards & Tim Kaine. Hillary may be from Chicago but she learned her political ropes in the South. I wish you southern wimps would stop electing liberals and giving them a leg up to National prominence. You guys are killing us.
Mine is an early model (I forget if it was 1954 or '56?) that had some pitting and not much finish so I touched it up a little, and set it up for heavy subsonic loads. Kills deer about like you'd expect - pretty dead.
I went to Cabelas in Rock Hill SC and I was shocked. It wasn't but half the size of a normal Cabelas.
Drive 17 miles south on 77 and go to a real store . Nichols store.If they were within a 2 mile drive of any Cabelas they would close shop in less then 24 hours.
I've seen the signs on 77, sounds like I need to stop the next time I'm through there.
As I've said before, I don't give a shiet about 150+ years ago, I just wish there weren't so damn many WHITE, LIBERAL YANKEES.
Thanks to them, we have Obama.
You mean those liberal yankees like LBJ, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Lloyd Bentsen, & Tim Kaine. Hillary may be from Chicago but she learned her political ropes in the South. I wish you southern wimps would stop electing liberals and giving them a leg up to National prominence. You guys are killing us.
Hitlery learned her political schit in DC and at Yankee universities. Kaine was and remains a carpetbagging damnyankee son of a bitch.
Then again, you have given us Schumer, all the Kennedys, Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, Pat Leahy, Michael Bloomberg, both Cuomos. Hell, if you just want to look at the wonders of NYS politicians and their "contributions" to the U.S., we can go Cuomo, Cuomo, Schumer, Bloomberg, FDR, Pataki, Spitzer, Rangel, and Moynihan; among others. The unions, who vote solid D, are Yankee institutions, not Southern. Gun control and anti-2A legislation comes from NY, CT, MA, NJ, MD, and the PRK; not Southern.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
Yes and amen! My ancestors came to NY in 1709. In 1723 some of them moved to PA. My ancestors fought in every conflict from the Queen Annes war to present. They bled and died wearing blue in the Civil War. Some people like 4ager and Steelhead don't think I should be proud of my heritage even though they're proud of theirs (well one of them is from NJ) but it don't work that way. Northerners have as much to be proud of as Southerners.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
Yes and amen! My ancestors came to NY in 1709. In 1723 some of them moved to PA. My ancestors fought in every conflict from the Queen Annes war to present. They bled and died wearing blue in the Civil War. Some people like 4ager and Steelhead don't think I should be proud of my heritage even though they're proud of theirs (well one of them is from NJ) but it don't work that way. Northerners have as much to be proud of as Southerners.
Did I say you ought not be proud of your heritage? Hmmm... nope. Have I pointed out that your conception of history is more than a bit skewed? Yep. Is the term Yankee in the context of MODERN conversations about those undermining the Constitution and the American way of life a "compliment"? Well, if you think so.....
Steelhead has rather frequently said he doesn't give a schit about what happened 150+ years ago, but is concentrating on NOW. Therein lies the difference that folks continue to ignore.
" The 17th article of the 1776 North Carolina Constitution declared:
That the people have a right to bear arms, for the defence of the State; and, as standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."
I'm a staunch defender of the 2nd amendment. I'll wager I shoot more in a week/month/year than you. My big sin here is living in NY and posing the question of whether owners of black rifles would prefer to have these platforms banned or to have mag restrictions. It's my belief that we are losing the PR battle regarding these rifles and it's just a matter of time before they are banned across most of the US. That's not my wish or desire, but my prediction. This is why I posed the question. I think that there are now owners of these unregistered rifles in NY, who have them squirreled away in their attics, who can't shoot them at ranges or transport them for fear of confiscation and arrest, who would now rather just have the mag. restriction so that they could still use them. I don't own one of these rifles, but if I did, I wouldn't register it, but I would still want to shoot it rather than have it collect dust.
I just get tired of the Yankee us/them crap. We are all in this together. It's more of an urban/rural thing than North/South. No region/State is immune from political or cultural differences. Upstate NY has little in common with NYC. Much of upstate NY votes Republican. Just please cut the prejudiced yankee crap. I does nothing to help any of us.
Are you not aware of the Sullivan Amendment that is the precursor to modern gun control legislation? Which Southern state is currently not at least shall issue for CCW? Aside from VT, which Yankee states are? Hmmm... Which Southern states have AWBs or "safe acts"? Which Yankee states do? Hmmm...
Your position on MSRs was clear; you wanted appeasement through an unconstitutional infringement. That's no support of the 2A; it's capitulation.
No surprise you've hauled ass from wanting to talk politics and gone to screaming racism. It's the only play you had left, and it still won't work.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
One day it will dawn on you what Steelhead is talking about.
I used to think he categorized everyone in the north as damn yankees and wasn't sure if I should take offense or show pride. Then the light bulb came on of the demographic of people in which he refers to as Damn Yankees. I ain't one of 'em and most likely you are not either.
The people he refers to ARE Damn Yankees.
P.S. Sorry to screw up the thread. Just wanted to get that one in. Carry on.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
One day it will dawn on you what Steelhead is talking about.
I used to think he categorized everyone in the north as damn yankees and wasn't sure if I should take offense or show pride. Then the light bulb came on of the demographic of people in which he refers to as Damn Yankees. I ain't one of 'em and most likely you are not either.
The people he refers to ARE Damn Yankees.
EXACTLY! There are "northerners", "Yankees", and "damnyankees". Kind of like there are black folks and there are n iggers, only with three options.
Did you ever sell that old 760 you had a few years back? It was as slick as snot on a doorknob.
Yeah, unfortunately. I had plans to turn it into a 9.3x62, but plans changed. As soon as I can get back down to a local shop (and you know which one I mean), I'll see if they have a .35 laying around for you.
You won't believe the size or inventory of that place. If you ever get out this way, it's worth a stop. Hell, it's only a little more than an hour from that school you've turned to rooting for.
The majority of all Remington pumps ever made were sold between PA and New England. It's truly a Yankee gun and the official firearm of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
The majority of all Remington pumps ever made were sold between PA and New England. It's truly a Yankee gun and the official firearm of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Now get all the liberal deer hunters in PA to stop voting for democrats.
And "Yankee" is the highest compliment you could give me. I wear that with pride.
Yep.... here's your sign....
Nobody has any control of where they were born or the choices that their ancestors made. There is no reason to be ashamed of the choices that their ancestors made, as it is likely that they chose to follow their conscience and the outcomes have been long decided. I am as proud of my ancestors who followed their friends and neighbors into the Union Army between 1861 and 1865 as a person whose ancestors followed their friends and neighbors into the Confederate Army at the same time. Most of them weren't decision makes and had little control over where events took them.
One day it will dawn on you what Steelhead is talking about.
I used to think he categorized everyone in the north as damn yankees and wasn't sure if I should take offense or show pride. Then the light bulb came on of the demographic of people in which he refers to as Damn Yankees. I ain't one of 'em and most likely you are not either.
The people he refers to ARE Damn Yankees.
P.S. Sorry to screw up the thread. Just wanted to get that one in. Carry on.
Yeah, I've even started prefacing Yankee with the word LIBERAL and still many are lost.
Don't worry, 260Remguy is one.
This is the kind of 'liberal' Yankee that I'm referring too. If it's not you, then you shouldn't be bothered by it.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
It seems to me that regulations that keep criminals from easy access to fully automatic firearms is a good thing. I'm not a Class III dealer, so I don't deal in fully automatic firearms, have no desire to deal in them, and have never gone to the trouble of learning the ins and outs of them.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Rory,
You live about as close to me and any other 24HCF member and you and I can both own any class of firearm we want. If there is any restriction in Nebraska, it is the handgun purchase law that requires a resident to obtain a handgun purchase permit. You go to the county sheriff's office, fill out a form, pay $10 for three years, and if you pass the cursory background check you walk out with your permit. It is a restriction, but hardly an onerous restriction.
I have long thought that a national firearms purchase permit, a Federal version of the Nebraska handgun purchase permit, would make buying a firearm easier for everyone involved, both the buyers and the sellers.
EDIT: I am frequently reminded that most people don't care about issues that don't directly impact them. Reference the futility that is represent by the Omaha Public Schools. If the movers and shakers in Omaha cared about the low academic performance by a large portion of the OPS student population, the resources necessary to boost performance would be found and changes implemented.
I can show you MANY from 'conservative' gun owning members on the 'Fire. Many from New York.
Did you vote for Obama and/or do you agree with this man from New York? If the answer is NO, than you ain't the liberal Yankee I'm talking about. It's pretty obvious when most northern states go BLUE and they are STRONG MAJORITY WHITE, that it's a WHOLE BUNCH OF WHITE LIBERAL YANKEES voting for Obama.
Originally Posted by cooper57m
I worked at a gun store in the late 70s early 80s when these type of rifles were beginning to get popular. We sold them. I remember the owner telling me that these rifles were going to pose a problem for us (gun owners). I never got into the whole tactical firearms thing. My interest has been in sporting rifles and double shotguns. I do have a couple revolvers. I always figured if the poo hit the fan and I ever needed a real assault weapon, I would know how to get one and I certainly didn't need one to protect my home. Whenever I'm at the range and hear someone rattle off a magazine as fast as they can pull the trigger, I just shake my head. I prefer precision shooting, deliberate and accurate. But to each his own, but I'm getting tired of defending why gun owners need high capacity semi-auto rifles. I would support a magazine capacity restriction rather than an outright ban on semi-auto rifles with some cosmetic design features deemed to be dangerous. I really do cringe when I see all the tactical gear and advertising. I much prefer firearms to be marketed for hunting and target shooting, you know innocent and wholesome activities. It's better for PR.
I do believe that at some point they will be banned across the country, much like they are in NY State. And probably just like in NY State, the compliance rate will be very low (approx. 5% in NY) making a whole lot of instant outlaws.
I like them. Wish the aftermarket triggers had been around when I owned those 76s, 760 and 7600's. All were shooting fuggers grouping around 3/4" with loads they liked and probably and inch with factory fodder.
As I've said before, I don't give a shiet about 150+ years ago, I just wish there weren't so damn many WHITE, LIBERAL YANKEES.
Thanks to them, we have Obama.
You mean those liberal yankees like LBJ, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Lloyd Bentsen, & Tim Kaine. Hillary may be from Chicago but she learned her political ropes in the South. I wish you southern wimps would stop electing liberals and giving them a leg up to National prominence. You guys are killing us.
Hitlery learned her political schit in DC and at Yankee universities. Kaine was and remains a carpetbagging damnyankee son of a bitch.
Then again, you have given us Schumer, all the Kennedys, Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, Pat Leahy, Michael Bloomberg, both Cuomos. Hell, if you just want to look at the wonders of NYS politicians and their "contributions" to the U.S., we can go Cuomo, Cuomo, Schumer, Bloomberg, FDR, Pataki, Spitzer, Rangel, and Moynihan; among others. The unions, who vote solid D, are Yankee institutions, not Southern. Gun control and anti-2A legislation comes from NY, CT, MA, NJ, MD, and the PRK; not Southern.
IIRC, didn't you get your law degree from a liberal Yankee college, Vermont Law in South Royalton?
The majority of all Remington pumps ever made were sold between PA and New England. It's truly a Yankee gun and the official firearm of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
While I don't doubt that a bit, plenty were sold all the down the Appalachains in the south. Every Kmart and Woolco (remember them?) carried them.
As I've said before, I don't give a shiet about 150+ years ago, I just wish there weren't so damn many WHITE, LIBERAL YANKEES.
Thanks to them, we have Obama.
You mean those liberal yankees like LBJ, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Lloyd Bentsen, & Tim Kaine. Hillary may be from Chicago but she learned her political ropes in the South. I wish you southern wimps would stop electing liberals and giving them a leg up to National prominence. You guys are killing us.
Hitlery learned her political schit in DC and at Yankee universities. Kaine was and remains a carpetbagging damnyankee son of a bitch.
Then again, you have given us Schumer, all the Kennedys, Hussein Obama, Bernie Sanders, Pat Leahy, Michael Bloomberg, both Cuomos. Hell, if you just want to look at the wonders of NYS politicians and their "contributions" to the U.S., we can go Cuomo, Cuomo, Schumer, Bloomberg, FDR, Pataki, Spitzer, Rangel, and Moynihan; among others. The unions, who vote solid D, are Yankee institutions, not Southern. Gun control and anti-2A legislation comes from NY, CT, MA, NJ, MD, and the PRK; not Southern.
IIRC, didn't you get your law degree from a liberal Yankee college, Vermont Law in South Royalton?
Yes. So? I never said I hadn't lived up there and in fact from living there I have a pretty damned good level of insight into the leftist politics of Yankeedom. Witness that crap firsthand and you figure out fast what they want for the rest of us, as well as the difference between northerners, Yankees, and damnyankees.
I think that Trump will probably get a majority of the 30+ white male vote, but that is unlikely enough to beat Clinton, since she appeals to woman, minorities, and most special interest groups.
And as far as yankee gun owners go, they're all on the Trump bandwagon from what I see. It's the non hunters voting Democrat.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.... How many union gun owners and hunters do you know in PA? Hint.
I was in the Painters Union. A lot of us let the AFL-CIO propaganda go in one ear and out the other. Lots of Republicans in the Union.
Right. That's why exit polling always has the Union vote so strongly D in PA, OH, MI, etc.
Originally Posted by Obama and the Union Vote
Election-night polling by Peter Hart for the AFL-CIO showed that 67 percent of union members voted for Obama while only 30 percent chose McCain. (Compare that to the 51 to 47 percent advantage Obama had over McCain in exit polls of non-union voters.) The union advantage was slightly higher in battleground states.
Most dramatically, union membership made a big difference in how well Obama performed. Union members over 65 voted by a 46-point margin for Obama, while all voters over 65 voted for McCain by an 8-point margin. Obama won by 23 points among white non-college graduates who belong to a union, even as he lost by 18 points among all white non-college voters.
Obama lost heavily among gun owners and white weekly churchgoers–except if they were union members. Then they voted for Obama, though by slim margins.
I think that Trump will probably get a majority of the 30+ white male vote, but that is unlikely enough to beat Clinton, since she appeals to woman, minorities, and most special interest groups.
There's a multitude of threads on this in the HC. Feel free to join in, read a bit about the actual breakdown of the electoral vote and what states/groups matter where and why.
There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.
There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.
There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.
What town?
Collinsville. The shop closed up some years back, unfortunately. They had bought out a guy's collection, and he was big into the Remington pump rifles and Savage 99s.
When I was a kid, every small northern New England town had a gun shop and their used gun racks were full of Remington pump guns, mostly 14s, 141s, and 760s. That all changed during and after the oil crisis in the early 1970's, as agents for wealthy oil men came through and bought any used firearm that was worth owning.
Among the few 14 1/2s that I recall seeing as a kid was Bearrr264's Grandfather's fully engraved 44-40. I was into guns at an early age and recall that the 14 1/2 was his deer rifle, his bear and moose rifle was an equally highly engraved 14 in 35 Rem, and his holster gun was a highly engrave Colt Bisley target in 44-40. I assumed that Dave would have inherited them after his Mother passed away, but I never saw them at his home in Missouri, and when Dave passed away his kids couldn't sell the assets of the estate fast enough.
There used to be a small shop very close to the NC border in SW VA that had more 14s, 14 1/2s, and 141s than you could believe. I recall them having .38-40s, .44-40s, .25, .30, .32, and .35 Rems in all the various configurations.
There is a great local shop here that had a MINT 141 in .35. It was too nice to put a scope on or drill for a peep. My eyesight is too poor to use the buckhorn sighs it had on it.
I don't just have a gun around to sit in th safe, so I reluctantly passed on it.
The problem with that shop is they call me when they get one in they know I'll like.
There was a simply awesome little gun shop in VT on Rte 100 that for YEARS had all the old-school pumps and lever guns a man could wish for.
That would probably have been Bill Guilderdale's shop in Stockbridge, just west of the intersection of RT100 and RT107. Bill was truly one of a kind and the variety and quality of stuff that passed through his shop was amazing! I probably bought 20 Savage 1920s from him, as well as countless other rifles and handguns, between 1985 and 1990.
Bill's DIL wrote to me after Bill has passed away and told me that her Son, Bill's Grandson, was going to take over the business, but I have never had the urge to go there since Bill's death. I can imagine Bill in Heaven, sitting on his stool behind the counter with his signature green felt hat on, dispensing all sorts of wisdom to anyone who would listen.
There is still a small gun shop in that general area, Snowsville Store, in East Braintree, VT, between Randolph and Northfield on RT12. It isn't in the same league as Bill's shop, but it is still there.
There is still a small gun shop in that general area, Snowsville Store, in East Braintree, VT, between Randolph and Northfield on RT12. It isn't in the same league as Bill's shop, but it is still there.
Good info. I go to Northfield every couple of years.
There is still a small gun shop in that general area, Snowsville Store, in East Braintree, VT, between Randolph and Northfield on RT12. It isn't in the same league as Bill's shop, but it is still there.
Good info. I go to Northfield every couple of years.
The guy who owns the Snowsville Store is not exactly friendly or helpful, but once he realizes that you know guns, his whole attitude changes. Not much nicer or more helpful, but not as dismissive. If you go there, you'll understand.
There is still a small gun shop in that general area, Snowsville Store, in East Braintree, VT, between Randolph and Northfield on RT12. It isn't in the same league as Bill's shop, but it is still there.
Good info. I go to Northfield every couple of years.
The guy who owns the Snowsville Store is not exactly friendly or helpful, but once he realizes that you know guns, his whole attitude changes. Not much nicer or more helpful, but not as dismissive. If you go there, you'll understand.
Sounds like a typical Northeast Kingdom "woodchuck". Marc will be JUST fine.
Mine is an early model (I forget if it was 1954 or '56?) that had some pitting and not much finish so I touched it up a little, and set it up for heavy subsonic loads. Kills deer about like you'd expect - pretty dead.
Did you re-stock that? I have a 1954 760 in 30-06 and it looks like the one in the link above.
No, but like I said, I couldn't remember if this one was from 1954 or 56. I had two, built a couple years apart according to the numbers, the older one had wood like your link shows, with the corn cob forend.
The rifle in my pic above has the "diamond pattern" forend that came a couple years after the early corn cob forends. It also has a cheek piece on the stock, which I like a lot better than the drop comb on the earlier rifle. That is original wood on this rifle, and hasn't been refinished. The wood has a really dark reddish color that you don't see much any more.
BTW, fixed your link, in Photobucket just click on the "IMG" code and paste it here.
Yes, not always but I do some of the time. (It is legal in the states I hunt.) I tend to leave the silencer off when hunting thicker brush, just because of the length, but otherwise really like hunting with a quieter rifle.
Animals still hear the noise and react, but often don't seem to know what it is or where it came from. Several times now I've had other deer walk out into view just a couple minutes after shooting; they seem to wonder what's going on.
One time I heard 25 shots within a few seconds near me. Turns out a 120" buck broke across the field while 5 hunters with 760 30-06's were crossing that field to set up a drive. A 12 year old hit and killed the buck with the final shot which was the only shot that connected. That was the best barrage I've heard while big game hunting.
Sorry--- Ya got me pegged wrong--- thought of poaching never came into mind.---- Just trying to figure out the advantage of using one...I have observed deer ,many a time, reacting to gunshots nearby and far away.
Mostly it's for the same reason you use a muffler on your car - less noise is good. Gun mufflers are not much different, other than one is federally required and the other is federally restricted.
Last year just before closing time I heard 4 fairly rapid shots. Then about 15 seconds go by and I heard 2 more.
I pull into camp and they're hanging a lad's first buck on the pole. Seems it was sneaking behind the camper while he was changing out of his hunting clothes.
The first 4 were to clear the brush, the 5 to get his attention, and the 6th dropped him.
Good shooting really. There were a few real small trees to clear out.
Last year just before closing time I heard 4 fairly rapid shots. Then about 15 seconds go by and I heard 2 more.
I pull into camp and they're hanging a lad's first buck on the pole. Seems it was sneaking behind the camper while he was changing out of his hunting clothes.
The first 4 were to clear the brush, the 5 to get his attention, and the 6th dropped him.
Good shooting really. There were a few real small trees to clear out.
I've heard some stupid schit... But, you can't really believe that, right?
He really did shoot 6 times tho. No I was a mile away, it sounded closer so I didn't think it was anyone with us. He did drop it with the last shot. He killed the dumbest deer in WI.
He shot a dos the next day with me in the stand, with a perfect heart shot.
Good. I thought you'd started channeling DumbassDon or some other idiot for a second.
It's amazing how stupid deer can be at times, and how it's almost always someone else that kills them (though, I will admit to killing one that stuck around long enough for me to fire - and miss - several times with a muzzleloader before dropping it with a last shot, and then finding out the scope was FUBAR).
More times than I can count over the past 40 years of deer hunting. I have noticed, that when I hear shots far away (1 mile +) from different directions over the course of 15-20 minutes. I observe deer movement. This comes usually after a long 2 hr lull of no activity in the woods. The deer I'm observing are not moving because of the gunshots. It just alerts me of possible deer movement. If ya know what I mean.
That's the nice thing about rifle season. The gunshots tell you where things are happening.
Sometimes. All it tells you is that someone took a shot at something. Given the PA hunter tendencies toward "sound shots", it might not tell you anything more than someone just spent a dollar or two.
I suspect "sound shots" are more myth than reality. I know PA as well as anyone and haven't seen these supposed sound shots.
Seen them by PA hunters in NY, MD, and VA; different people, different locations, different years. YMMV, obviously, but when a guy fires a box of ammo from the stand in a single day and says point blank that "I didn't see anything, but got off some good sound shots but don't think I hit anything", it's a pretty good indication of what he's doing. Never encountered it from hunters from any other state.
Haha! What they were doing was trying to keep you (or whoever they told that to) from horning in on their hunting spot. A fellow I hunted with a few time in a heavily hunted state forest area would tell that to anyone he saw in the woods close to his stand. He could do it with a straight face and was known to touch off a few rounds into the ground just to make it believable. I've said it a couple times but couldn't keep from laughin.
Haha! What they were doing was trying to keep you (or whoever they told that to) from horning in on their hunting spot. A fellow I hunted with a few time in a heavily hunted state forest area would tell that to anyone he saw in the woods close to his stand. He could do it with a straight face and was known to touch off a few rounds into the ground just to make it believable. I've said it a couple times but couldn't keep from laughin.
Might have been the case for one of them, but not the other two. Both of them were....uninvited....from the premises and had a rather uncomfortable conversation with wardens.
I read a lot of stuff about PA hunters that makes me scratch my head. But I do come from a better part of PA. We have our certain counties in PA that are a running joke among the rest of us and I have zero doubt that a lot of this stuff is done by Pennsylvanians from those counties.
I read a lot of stuff about PA hunters that makes me scratch my head. But I do come from a better part of PA. We have our certain counties in PA that are a running joke among the rest of us and I have zero doubt that a lot of this stuff is done by Pennsylvanians from those counties.
Good county/bad county? Be interesting to know which is which.
I read a lot of stuff about PA hunters that makes me scratch my head. But I do come from a better part of PA. We have our certain counties in PA that are a running joke among the rest of us and I have zero doubt that a lot of this stuff is done by Pennsylvanians from those counties.
Good county/bad county? Be interesting to know which is which.
The eastside jokes about Perry county and the westside jokes about Fayette. There are others but they are the tops.
I read a lot of stuff about PA hunters that makes me scratch my head. But I do come from a better part of PA. We have our certain counties in PA that are a running joke among the rest of us and I have zero doubt that a lot of this stuff is done by Pennsylvanians from those counties.
Good county/bad county? Be interesting to know which is which.
The eastside jokes about Perry county and the westside jokes about Fayette. There are others but they are the tops.
The Fayette boys try to kill without making any noise.
I had one the best steaks I've had in recent memory in Coudersport Friday night. I hope they can eventually get the lifts running at Denton Hill again. It's too nice a facility to close.
Otter, The name of the place was Laurelwood Inn and Steakhouse. It's on the left side of 6 heading toward Denton Hill out of Coudersport. It don't look like much from the outside but the food is great and ladies working there are nice.
It's neat to see all the interest in these rifles. They have fallen out of favor in PA today. When I started hunting the woods were a mix of 760's and 30-30/.32 leverguns. Today bolt guns have largely replaced both. The 7600's never sold like the 760's because that's about the time bolt guns started taking over new gun sales.
Otter, The name of the place was Laurelwood Inn and Steakhouse. It's on the left side of 6 heading toward Denton Hill out of Coudersport. It don't look like much from the outside but the food is great and ladies working there are nice.
Just inside Sweden valley, great place.
Next time you're up that way shoot me a message I'm not vry far from C.sport, and you really need to take the hour drive to Olena. To the beef N barrel
Otter, The name of the place was Laurelwood Inn and Steakhouse. It's on the left side of 6 heading toward Denton Hill out of Coudersport. It don't look like much from the outside but the food is great and ladies working there are nice.
Just inside Sweden valley, great place.
Next time you're up that way shoot me a message I'm not vry far from C.sport, and you really need to take the hour drive to Olena. To the beef N barrel
Will do, thanks!
It may be a couple of years before we go back. 10 hours up Thursday pulling a camper on the worst route wasn't fun but we found a better way home
It's neat to see all the interest in these rifles. They have fallen out of favor in PA today. When I started hunting the woods were a mix of 760's and 30-30/.32 leverguns. Today bolt guns have largely replaced both. The 7600's never sold like the 760's because that's about the time bolt guns started taking over new gun sales.
Down here it was 30-30s and 742s with an occasional pump. The fancy guys had Brownings.
Central VA was all .30-30/.32 levers of the 336 and 94 persuasion, with the RARE bolt gun (almost always a .270 or .30-06). When the 7mmRMs started showing up, so did the 7400s and BARs. There's a lot more bolt guns now, but still a damned decent percentage of levers.
It's neat to see all the interest in these rifles. They have fallen out of favor in PA today. When I started hunting the woods were a mix of 760's and 30-30/.32 leverguns. Today bolt guns have largely replaced both. The 7600's never sold like the 760's because that's about the time bolt guns started taking over new gun sales.
That's how it was in the Catskills back when I started hunting too. Mostly lever guns in .30-30/.32 special/.35 Rem. and 760's and 742's in .30-06/.270. Course that was before everybody started spending the whole day/season perched in a tree.
There were maybe five guys I knew growing up that didn't use a .30-30/.32 lever, and one of them used a 99 in .300 Savage. No Mausers or Enfields or Springfields; the only bolt guns were one guy with a Weatherby (and he never killed a damned thing), and a couple Remingtons. That was it; everyone else ran levers.
When the deer population started booming, the rifles carried started diversifying.
Come to think of it I do recall a few guys using sporterized Krags and SMLE's too. You couldn't hardly go into a gun shop around here back then without seeing a couple krags and/or smellys in the racks and they were dirt cheap too.
That is pretty much the way my early years in Pa. were.. Most guys had 30-30's, .32 spl. a few .35 Rem. one model 30 that I know of and several pumps. My Grandfather shot an open sighted m.54 '06. My dad a .32 spl. I broke in on the .32. Many of my cousins had .300 Savages, one aunt had a .250 m.99. My older hunting pal had a .270.. By the time I was in high school and college,things began to change a great deal..My neighbor had used a .30-30 and a prewar .30-06 most of his life bought the first .264 in the country.. He used this and a pump .270 during the later years of his life.
The 30-06 pump began to replace the .30-30 for those who hunted and had little interest in firearms. The .243 and 7mm Mag became popular with the guys who liked guns..
The guy who almost always killed a buck each fall used an old .35 Rem. pump from the close of WW2 until about "65.. He bought a 721 .300 H & H and later had it rechambered for a .300 Wea. He killed a pile of bucks with it the years I knew him. Now in that country I see lots of slide actions, but more bolt actions.
Otter, The name of the place was Laurelwood Inn and Steakhouse. It's on the left side of 6 heading toward Denton Hill out of Coudersport. It don't look like much from the outside but the food is great and ladies working there are nice.
Just inside Sweden valley, great place.
Next time you're up that way shoot me a message I'm not vry far from C.sport, and you really need to take the hour drive to Olena. To the beef N barrel
Will do, thanks!
It may be a couple of years before we go back. 10 hours up Thursday pulling a camper on the worst route wasn't fun but we found a better way home
Don't tell.me you came 120, to 44 and up through the gap
Like blackheart said, the bolt action took over when guys quit the deer drives and took to the trees. When deer drives were all the rage a lot of value was placed on a quick second shot. I can remember the Mennonite bear and deer drives where 25 guys mostly carried 760 30-06's.
As a kid, saw a good many Krags, 94's and 99's. Dad and Unc sprung for Model 70's. Late 50's the 760 came along big in Pa and it lasted till perhaps till late 80 early 90. Then the BA started to take hold.
Beer of choice was Iron City, Schmidts and PBR. Coors became big in the 70's. One group of guys went on a Colorado hunt and came back with a motorhome stuffed with Coors. People were begging for a can.
Craft bears consisted of throwing a shot of whisky into the beer glass and chugging it down.
Used to have a local mill joint that had a nightly special: 7 shots of Imperial and a small draft chaser. $1.00. In the mill town we moved to there was a legal bar in a persons house. You knocked on the door and they would let you in if they knew you. Up the steps next to the living room and someone usually watching tv. The bar was on the second floor. Room for about 10 people standing. No chairs. They turned the beer sign off at 2am, but didn't close the bar.
One thing about those place you can always get a Yuengling!
Like I did, you grew up in the then-land of schit beer as the South was truly that. As such, I can understand your appreciation of a decent, though not anything special, beer.
In through the 80s, the South had the extraordinary selection of beers that were summed up with this list:
Bud Bud Light Coors Light Miller High Life PBR Old Milwaukee
If you were to have gone fishing with my father or any of his friends, one of those last three along with a sleeve of saltines and a can of potted meat and a flat of sardines would have been lunch. Every time, all the time.
In the 90s, Coors Original and Miller Genuine Draft were added and it was almost like manna from Heaven. Yuengling and Rolling Rock showed up about the same time, as did Fosters and the pseudo-Mexican beers (Corona and Dos Equis).
FINALLY, decent beers have come to the South and in fact are made in the South. I will give Yankee territory credit for that; they always had better beer until very recently. We had the better whisky, bourbon, and shine, but they had the beer.
Marc, if you haven't tried Sunken City Red Clay IPA (brewed near SML, named for the towns at the bottom of the lake), give it a try.
We usually head to Cross Fork for a libation at Deb's when we are on Kettle fishing. Camp is just up the road from Wharton. Truly is God's country.
Clinton county which is next door has some "hills" that will make the western crowd realize they don't have exclusive rights on steep. Elevation yes, steep no.
We usually head to Cross Fork for a libation at Deb's when we are on Kettle fishing. Camp is just up the road from Wharton. Truly is God's country.
Clinton county which is next door has some "hills" that will make the western crowd realize they don't have exclusive rights on steep. Elevation yes, steep no.
That's also true in the mountains of central and SW VA (Highland County isn't misnamed, and doesn't have a monopoly on steep), the mountains and gorges of WV, as well as the Smokies of NC and TN, and certainly the Adirondacks, Greens, and Whites of NY, VT, and NH.
I have never liked anything Starr Hill has brewed. The DB Schwatzbier and Baltic Porter are very nice, and the "Kilt Flasher" Scotch Ale is incredible. Their "Gold Leaf" lager ain't bad, either. If you get a chance, try Hardywood's Give Bock, Singel, or their Cream Ale. Oh, and for fans of the Genesee Cream Ale, the Hardywood stuff out of Richmond, VA is superb.
Just saw a 760 in 300 savage on the rack, had the 870 forearm. Did these come factory D/T? This one had a weaver base. Also had two holes in the side for peep. 80% finish on the metal, butt stock had crack in grip area. All this talk has me considering picking this up?
Just saw a 760 in 300 savage on the rack, had the 870 forearm. Did these come factory D/T? This one had a weaver base. Also had two holes in the side for peep. 80% finish on the metal, butt stock had crack in grip area. All this talk has me considering picking this up?
Bubba'd, but an uncommon caliber. Price would dictate everything.
Just saw a 760 in 300 savage on the rack, had the 870 forearm. Did these come factory D/T? This one had a weaver base. Also had two holes in the side for peep. 80% finish on the metal, butt stock had crack in grip area. All this talk has me considering picking this up?
They weren't drill&tapped until late in the third year of production. Keep in mind in the 1950's a 760 forearm was much more like an 870's than the later ones with the telescoping forearms.
True. The jam-O-matic is a royal POS. Yes, someone out there probably has one that has never malfunctioned; but exceptions don't make a rule.
LOL. Tis true. Although, given the number of them sold, the number is probably more like two or three. And it's quite possible they still have hang-tags on them yet.
In this neck of the woods, they are GUAR-AN-TEED to have "see-tru's" on them.
When, exactly, did you come to think that I don't like you? The response given re: jam-O-matic is the only one that really counts. If you think you can figure out how to make the worst semi-auto that Remington (and perhaps any sporting arms manufacturer) made run perfectly, feel free to have at it. It earned a reputation for a reason.
I spent about 10 years working as a rangemaster on the weekends, and the Jam-A-Matic reputation is well deserved, and equally well earned. A rangemaster's nightmare is a Jam-A-Matic with see through or flip mounts and a $20.00 scope parked on top of it. If (and it's a big if) the guy can actually get the thing to cycle, and if he can put three in a row on the same target, it's more the exception than the norm. The gun's were junk. The pump was a much better rifle.
There's a gun shop up here (Ahlman's Gun Shop in Morristown, Mn) that makes a good bit of money converting 740's and 742's to pump guns. There's a reason they're better off as pumps........
Well here ya go........ I've had a 742 in .308 since '67 and, over the course of at least a thousand rounds of factory and handloads, it has never jammed. Only issue I've had is when I didn't take off the forend and clean and dry the spring and action tube after a very wet 10 day Ontario moose hunt in '73. A couple months later I took it out and when I pulled the bolt back, it stayed back. After that I always ran a clip through it at the end of a wet hunt to dry it out.
Well here ya go........ I've had a 742 in .308 since '67 and, over the course of at least a thousand rounds of factory and handloads, it has never jammed. Only issue I've had is when I didn't take off the forend and clean and dry the spring and action tube after a very wet 10 day Ontario moose hunt in '73. A couple months later I took it out and when I pulled the bolt back, it stayed back. After that I always ran a clip through it at the end of a wet hunt to dry it out.
Well there's exceptions to every rule. I'd never own one, but that's just me. But then again I only handled over 100 of them over the years, so what do I know?
When, exactly, did you come to think that I don't like you? The response given re: jam-O-matic is the only one that really counts. If you think you can figure out how to make the worst semi-auto that Remington (and perhaps any sporting arms manufacturer) made run perfectly, feel free to have at it. It earned a reputation for a reason.
You have to realize where I'm coming from. In PA we aren't exposed to these rifles because you can't hunt with them. I've never fired one or been around anybody who was shooting one.
Mike, Dad had a 742 in 280, a mid 70s rifle picked up used in the early 80s. When fed Remington's 165CL it was very reliable when the clean. When he tried the hotter 140 factory loads and started reloading with stuff like 4831 it's a jamomatic. He went to faster powders it works fine.
Mike, Dad had a 742 in 280, a mid 70s rifle picked up used in the early 80s. When fed Remington's 165CL it was very reliable when the clean. When he tried the hotter 140 factory loads and started reloading with stuff like 4831 it's a jamomatic. He went to faster powders it works fine.
I see. I imagine they would be tough to reload for.
I responded earlier, but... I had a 760 for a number of years. Yes it killed deer, but mine didn't group for me at all, I hated the fat fore end, it rattled, kicked , and was too heavy.
Originally Posted by MagMarc
Post something on pump rifle then, got one?
I responded earlier, but... I had a 760 for a quite a few years. Yes it killed deer, but mine didn't group for me at all, the fore end was fat and clumsy, it rattled, kicked bad, and was too heavy.
I had a 742 in 30-06 and it never jammed on me in the 8 years that used it. I kept it spotlessly clean. I eventually traded it for a Ruger M77 in .280. Many of the men in my family thought I was nuts for doing that. Bolt guns were not too highly valued at that time in the Adirondacks. My brother had a Win 100 .308 and that was the jam-o-matic in our family.
Well here ya go........ I've had a 742 in .308 since '67 and, over the course of at least a thousand rounds of factory and handloads, it has never jammed. Only issue I've had is when I didn't take off the forend and clean and dry the spring and action tube after a very wet 10 day Ontario moose hunt in '73. A couple months later I took it out and when I pulled the bolt back, it stayed back. After that I always ran a clip through it at the end of a wet hunt to dry it out.
Well there's exceptions to every rule. I'd never own one, but that's just me. But then again I only handled over 100 of them over the years, so what do I know?
I own one now. My uncle gave it to me a 740 actually. It was my late grandpa's. It's in the best condition I've ever seen.
Jam-o-matic haha. I have literally never heard it called that until this thread! But, its an accurate description. My dad had one in 243 that he accounted for a stack of deer with over his lifetime. I have it now and its a really pretty BDL model with a fine glossy stock. I always liked to "look at it" but never shot it because i figured its accuracy just HAD to be sub par to what id want.
Feeling nostalgic one day after the old mans passing, i pulled it, and his model 7 stainless 243 out , found 40 rounds of his favorite factory load (federal premium gold and blue box , 85gr sierra HPBT) , and went and set up some targets. (he was a handloader as well and taught me at an early age, but the boxes of handloaded 243 around the house were unlabeled as to load, so i passed.)
I like the model 7 alot, but the accuracy is truly ho-hum. It kills and ive taken some game with it since. So after shooting it i said what the heck this old auto is gonna be pretty lame...
200yrds, 3 rounds fired fast, 3/4 inch triangle. JAM AFTER EVER SHOT. reload. 3 rounds fired fast. 1 inch triangle, JAM AFTER EVERY SHOT. Dad was the type to "sight in " a rifle on the 25yd range in our back yard and call it good.... so i was surprised to say the least. It doesnt jam much in the back of the safe. I took two hogs at 230 ish yards on the trot across a open crop field with it and thats all the use ive had for it. had to monkey with it to get it to feed for the second shot that time as well.
I'd be glad to have a nice 30-06 pump wander into my life though.
Get a chamber brush, dip it in some bore cleaner and brush the heck out of that 243 chamber. A chamber brush has a flexible wire handle and makes the job very easy. Worth a try as a first step to see if it helps to elevate that old rifle above single shot status.
Get a chamber brush, dip it in some bore cleaner and brush the heck out of that 243 chamber. A chamber brush has a flexible wire handle and makes the job very easy. Worth a try as a first step to see if it helps to elevate that old rifle above single shot status.
WN
I appreciate the advise WN. I'm sure ill get around to it at some point. I had myself thinking that the lack of function i was experiencing had a bit to do with the particular load not cycling the action as it needed. That factory ammo sure shoots well , but in my mind id decided that it wasnt cycling the bolt at that "just right" rate, causing the missfeeding.
Dads notes for the handloads he was running through it were quite a few grains above book max ( he was cautious in that aspect and worked up slowly reading the brass), and i dont recall it ever jamming on him.
[quote=jmd025]Jam-o-matic haha. I have literally never heard it called that until this thread! But, its an accurate description. My dad had one in 243 that he accounted for a stack of deer with over his lifetime. I have it now and its a really pretty BDL model with a fine glossy stock. I always liked to "look at it" but never shot it because i figured its accuracy just HAD to be sub par to what id want.
Feeling nostalgic one day after the old mans passing, i pulled it, and his model 7 stainless 243 out , found 40 rounds of his favorite factory load (federal premium gold and blue box , 85gr sierra HPBT) , and went and set up some targets. (he was a handloader as well and taught me at an early age, but the boxes of handloaded 243 around the house were unlabeled as to load, so i passed.)
I like the model 7 alot, but the accuracy is truly ho-hum. It kills and ive taken some game with it since. So after shooting it i said what the heck this old auto is gonna be pretty lame...
200yrds, 3 rounds fired fast, 3/4 inch triangle. JAM AFTER EVER SHOT. reload. 3 rounds fired fast. 1 inch triangle, JAM AFTER EVERY SHOT. Dad was the type to "sight in " a rifle on the 25yd range in our back yard and call it good.... so i was surprised to say the least. It doesnt jam much in the back of the safe. I took two hogs at 230 ish yards on the trot across a open crop field with it and thats all the use ive had for it. had to monkey with it to get it to feed for the second shot that time as well.
I'd be glad to have a nice 30-06 pump w
FWIW, Ahlman's in Morristown, MN, converts Remingtn 740/742/7400 series autoloaders into pump action 760s. If you want to hunt with your Father's 243, the Ahlman's conversion might be a viable option for you. www.ahlmans.com
Typically old 760's around here run $300-$350 if in good shape. However, a 300 Savage has some 'cool factor' so $400 wouldn't be out of line, IF that's a caliber you want.
The 760 was only produced in 300 Savage from 1952-57. The most common one was the A-lo (low comb) with about 38,000 produced. Now, if that rifle would be an ADL or BDL version, only about 4000 of them were produced and would be worth a bit more.
Remington also produced some in 257R, 244 Rem, 222Rem,& 223rem back then. They tend to bring a premium on the used racks around here.
It's a low-comb gun, with see-thrus, to make it thoroughly unuseable.
The very first thing I'd do, IF I buy it, is to lose those ringmounts and the wretched scope, then decide on whether to go with a Williams peep or Weaver base, and some low rings.
I like scopes but I want them to be useable. This is a pretty light and handy rifle. I think I'd like it as much as the 336SC I bought from that pawnshop last year. He comes up with some gems now and then.
I've been regressing the last few years, going back to handy guns as opposed to long-range stuff.
I guess I'm trying to put the fun back into hunting, as opposed to just shooting another deer.
FWIW, Ahlman's in Morristown, MN, converts Remingtn 740/742/7400 series autoloaders into pump action 760s. If you want to hunt with your Father's 243, the Ahlman's conversion might be a viable option for you. www.ahlmans.com
Have you had this done or seen one of the modified guns? Might want to consider it for my dad's 740. Thanks.
Can't imagine trying to shoot that low comb with a scope mounted in those see-thrus as the previous owner tried to do.
A Williams peep would be a slick option for it, for sure. Although a 1-4x/5x in low rings would work well, too. I have both set ups and like them both on my 35Rem carbines.
1. dirty/rusty chamber 2. dirty/plugged gas port 3. soft shooting gun on a pillowy shoulder 4. chewed up bolt rails.
#4 usually from folks shooting the .30-06 and 180 gr or heavier bullets.
Reportedly not a problem in other chamberings.
The see through ring stuff........as funny as it is, might have some logic behind it.
Like a mini 14.........some shoot pretty decent iron sighted, but once scoped, the cold barrel first shot will be where it should be, the followups from the now hot barrel, will be elsewhere.
I got a minty 742 carbine in '06. Set it to shoot 1" high at 100. Cold bbl, no prob. But if I shot any without letting it cool, the group would be OK...........but 7 or 8" low.
If one used the irons, which would track with barrel warp.......it might hit where aimed.
I had a beat up standard 742..........that had some bolt rail chew, but not much.
It ran fine.
Big dude wanted to buy it, sold for what I had in it.........and it jammed on him. Same ammo I ran (sold him that with the gun). Super nice guy.........and super fat.
I met him at the range and ran the mag dry without issue. It'd jam every other shot for him.
He weighed twice what I did.
That gun also did not shift any real amount cold to hot bbl. After he saw me run it flawless, he refused to sell it back.
Looked crappy. Best 742 I had of the three.
Problem is, most are beat up (in '06) and if so, it's just gonna get worse (eventually). I dunno what running 150's only, in a minty one............what the life expectancy would be.
Less # of bolt lugs, larger ones at that.......maybe even something else to stop over rotation in recoil...........I dunno. A 7400 is still a possible toy for me.
I wonder how many big dudes, with big puffy coats........caused the jamming. Also hunting cold/wet environs.......chamber neglect, oils gumming up........wonder how much was from that.
Might have been an OK rifle, but not one that could be neglected in form or maintenance.
And that doesn't mean it was a great gun.......one should be able to work through a bit of crud and variability IMHO.
760 carbine is a great woods gun and yeah I agree with keeping the 742/7400 clean. They used to be really popular in my area . Still have several uncles who swear by them . Trust me if they were the jammatic everyone else states my uncles wouldn't be using them. Still have a 740 and 7400 that I take out once in a while. Looking for a 742 carbine, missed a nice one on here the other day.
ya cutting that 3.5" off the end of the barrel makes for a whole different gun in my opinion. i have sold all my 760 rifles except one and switched all over to carbines over the past 15 years.
as for the see-throughs, i live in the land of see-throughs. we had them back in the day cause the old scopes fogged easily. i still have one gun with them on and it is a serious shooter. but in the 35 years i have had it, i don't think i've used the irons except for zeroing.
I have a couple of 141's and a 7600. 30 Rem, 35 Rem and a 30-06. I've had a couple of others. My youngest son wanted a 270 7600 of mine when he turned 21 he got that one.
Those 7600's are as accurate as most bolt rifles. I shot a few .3" groups (5 shot) with the 270. The 06 is also very accurate, so far only 3 shot groups out of that one.
The 141's are the handiest rifles!!! I really like my 94 32 Special made in 54, but those 141's are at least as fast to get on target and they are faster getting subsequent shots if needed...
I shot the new 7600 270 this morning with 150 Partitions. It shot those right at an inch. I have a bunch of 270 stuff and I'm going to play with it awhile
See through mounts are gone and it looks like this now:
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
There's just something about a 7600 in .270! I've had a .270 in a 760 as well as multiple .30-06's. The only 7600 I've owned was a .7mm-08. But a 7600 .270 seems like something I need.
Man, all this talk about these old cornshuckers is really making me want to get one. There's an old 760 out there, maybe in 300 Savage, that's calling my name. I really like well worn guns. Not abused guns, but guns that have seen lots of good, honest use. My dad used to look at a tired old gun and say "every one of those scratches was EARNED." If only we could know their life's story. The trips into the back country on a man's shoulder. The countless times they'd bumped into a step as they ascended a tree stand. The thousands of brush stokes up and down the barrel from being cleaned. The deer that were taken, and the ones that were missed. And the many friends that were lost along the way.
The 760/7600 are the best rifles Remington ever made. The 700 has an assortment of problems and the 742 is plagued by a host of gremlins but whatever goes wrong with a Remington Pump?
1st load attempt. I looked at what I had plenty of and remembered several years ago I bought a bunch of 130 Nosler Solid Bases of off the classifieds here. I also have more than a few pounds of H4831. 55gr H4831 in a Winchester case with a Fed 210 got this.
I have a few expensive bolt rifles, but if I just had my 7600 in .30-06 I think I'd be OK for all the shooting I've been doing. Even the pressed checkering grows on you, after awhile. Bob
I have a few expensive bolt rifles, but if I just had my 7600 in .30-06 I think I'd be OK for all the shooting I've been doing. Even the pressed checkering grows on you, after awhile. Bob
I have a few expensive bolt rifles, but if I just had my 7600 in .30-06 I think I'd be OK for all the shooting I've been doing. Even the pressed checkering grows on you, after awhile. Bob
The 7600's are the Rodney Dangerfields of deer rifles.
I have a few expensive bolt rifles, but if I just had my 7600 in .30-06 I think I'd be OK for all the shooting I've been doing. Even the pressed checkering grows on you, after awhile. Bob
Has anyone handled or shot a current model 7600? Just wondering if they're any good.
My 3 year old carbine is not the same quality as my son's older 270. The new magazines are junk and I had feeding problems right out of the box. Remington fixed it and when I spoke to customer service, the person said that these were not the 7600s of old. They had a code for my issue so I expect I'm not alone but what do I know. I respect his honesty but bet he isn't working for Remington anymore..
I took a 760 in .270 Win out west one year and killed two Antelope. I didn't feel a bit handicapped. My 760 was a MOA shooter so what more would a bolt have given me?
I stopped by Ahlman's in Morristown, Mn. today. They only had a couple 760's. They were both .270's and if anyone says I looked at them for any length of time, I'm denying it and that's my story!
With all the 760/7600 enthusiasm being displayed, there should be more than a few tags punched with them in the upcoming season. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
With all the 760/7600 enthusiasm being displayed, there should be more than a few tags punched with them in the upcoming season. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I Have A 760 carbine in 30-06 I'm planning on giving a few days attention. Don't get much better in the woods.
With all the 760/7600 enthusiasm being displayed, there should be more than a few tags punched with them in the upcoming season. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
If I punch a rifle tag this year it will be with a pump.
Hopefully we'll have plenty of pics and stories when the time comes this season.
20years ago you would see 760's pretty frequently in Pa. Not so much anymore and the bolt rifle is more common by far.
Same in my area , used to be all 94s , 336s or Remington pumps and autos . I'll probably use everything from a 44 mag rifle through the 760 . 740, 7400 up to a 300 RUM Sendero. All depends where I hunt .
I ran into a guy up on the hill behind my house carrying an old 94 Winchester last season. First one in quite a while now. I was starting to think I was the only one left around here who still uses one. Nice guy. Helped me drag my deer to my Jeep.
I ran into a guy up on the hill behind my house carrying an old 94 Winchester last season. First one in quite a while now. I was starting to think I was the only one left around here who still uses one. Nice guy, helped me drag my deer to my Jeep.
The spot we used to hunt up north of Brainerd, Mn. was like this. There was our group and one other bunch of guys in there. Good guys-every one of them. They had a couple older fellows who still made it into their stands every year, and we always made a point of checking on them in case they needed help dragging one out, or needed anything. Our groups drug deer out for each other on multiple occasions. They camped at the trail head we walked in on, and we were always welcome for coffee or a beer at day's end. They had ATV's, and would haul our deer out to the trail head if they crossed paths with us on the way out. I'd always run into town and get them a 12 pack and leave it sitting on the seat of their ATV the next day.
above is my pumps. the one on the log is a rare 141 transition with 22in barrel and model 14 receiver that dose not say gamemaster. it was only made in 1935 I have never seen another one. the other is a model 14 carbine made in 1912 I found both ae a pawn shop. when I got the 14 the stock was covered with crude but I knew there was nice wood underneath, and boy was I right! they are both in 30 rem. and they are both good shooters.
When I was a little kid I shot my first two bucks using my great Grandad's 760 in 244. Both he and it are long gone and I doubt I'll ever see that rifle again. But I do have a soft spot for the old 760s with the corncob forends and I have been keeping an eye peeled for a nice one for some time just for old times sake. My wife and I had our first child last fall, a little boy. At 10 months old now he's walking a little and learning all kinds of tricks and I swear he's left handed. Little tyke does everything with his left hand.
So knowing I have a soft spot for old 760s, and odd calibers, and now a likely left handed boy who'll surely need a deer rifle. A friend of mine agreed last week to swap me straight across, his 1954 production 760 in 300 Savage for my 1948 production 721 in 270.
The old pumpgun isn't pristine, but it's pretty darn nice. It still has the aluminum butt plate, dovetail rear iron sight, no sling studs, and has never had the plug screws removed from the scope holes. I can't wait to put a youth 20ga buttstock with a good pad on it, some sling studs, and a 4x Leupold and have my little boy carry it up into the hills. We'll save the original wood for later.
i know what you mean about odd and obsolete calibers. I love all the odd ones. I have and addiction for model 8 and 81s I have a 32 rem. a 30 rem and a 25 rem. and two 35 rem. in model 8 and 81s and I have the two 30 rems above in the pumps. and I also have a rem. model 660 in 6mm/244 rem. one of my favorites.
When I was a little kid I shot my first two bucks using my great Grandad's 760 in 244. Both he and it are long gone and I doubt I'll ever see that rifle again. But I do have a soft spot for the old 760s with the corncob forends and I have been keeping an eye peeled for a nice one for some time just for old times sake. My wife and I had our first child last fall, a little boy. At 10 months old now he's walking a little and learning all kinds of tricks and I swear he's left handed. Little tyke does everything with his left hand.
So knowing I have a soft spot for old 760s, and odd calibers, and now a likely left handed boy who'll surely need a deer rifle. A friend of mine agreed last week to swap me straight across, his 1954 production 760 in 300 Savage for my 1948 production 721 in 270.
The old pumpgun isn't pristine, but it's pretty darn nice. It still has the aluminum butt plate, dovetail rear iron sight, no sling studs, and has never had the plug screws removed from the scope holes. I can't wait to put a youth 20ga buttstock with a good pad on it, some sling studs, and a 4x Leupold and have my little boy carry it up into the hills. We'll save the original wood for later.
Cool on both counts. My brother is a lefty and dad bought him a 760 270 a couple of years after the changeover to the 7600. It was NIB and has served him well since 83. Your son will lucky to have that one as a first deer rifle.
With all the 760/7600 enthusiasm being displayed, there should be more than a few tags punched with them in the upcoming season. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
I don't plan to use mine this year. I built an AR15 in a wildcat round that delivers exactly the same ballistics, is more compact, and weighs about 1-1/2 lb less. Only use I have for the pump anymore is for a little quieter subsonic/suppressed loads.
While thumbing through the October 2005 issue of the American Rifleman I found a full length article on the Remington 760/7600 rifles. On page 83 there was a breakdown of the production numbers on the 760 and Model 6.
According to this article the total production of the 760 1,034,438 units were produced. Of this figure 62,726 were in the carbine configuration. The production numbers of the various calibers were as follows:
I was looking over a brand spanking new 7600 Carbine this weekend. If there was anything inferior about it I didn't notice and I'm well versed in these rifles. The $775 price tag did scare me off though.
I think that I'd be more likely to spend $400+/- on a 760/7600 rifle and have someone cut the barrel back.
The Cabela's in LaVisita, NE, had an excellent 7600 in 280 the last time that I was there and they were asking (IIRC) around $550, which may be high, since Cabela's used firearms tend to either be over-priced, more often, or under-priced, much less often.
I think that I'd be more likely to spend $400+/- on a 760/7600 rifle and have someone cut the barrel back.
The Cabela's in LaVisita, NE, had an excellent 7600 in 280 the last time that I was there and they were asking (IIRC) around $550, which may be high, since Cabela's used firearms tend to either be over-priced, more often, or under-priced, much less often.
that is a reasonable price for a 280 rifle. i hold out hope of finding one of the old 760 carbines in 280 for something less than a nice house payment. not likely these days with the internet.
Has anyone handled one of the Bicentennial Ltd Ed 7600s? My LGS has one and, although it's way too glitsy for my tastes, it has the smoothest action I've ever felt on a Remington pump rifle. The wood has incredible figure but much too glossy for me. Of course they're not putting them out, or pricing them, as working guns.
I think that I'd be more likely to spend $400+/- on a 760/7600 rifle and have someone cut the barrel back.
The Cabela's in LaVisita, NE, had an excellent 7600 in 280 the last time that I was there and they were asking (IIRC) around $550, which may be high, since Cabela's used firearms tend to either be over-priced, more often, or under-priced, much less often.
that is a reasonable price for a 280 rifle. i hold out hope of finding one of the old 760 carbines in 280 for something less than a nice house payment. not likely these days with the internet.
I recognize that the 280 has a "cool" factor, but does it have any practical advantage in the field that would make it decidedly better than the popular cartridges on either side of it, the 270 and 30-06? And, extending the conversation, even if it does have a practical advantage over the 270 and/or 30-06, is that advantage worth the premium price that 760/7600s in 280 cost?
To me no. I like the 280 and have used it for over 25 years in the 700. 06 or 270 in a pump suits me fine and either will do anything a 280 will do in a pump or anything else for all practical purposes. My main rifle this year will be a flea market pick up 270 7600.
I recognize that the 280 has a "cool" factor, but does it have any practical advantage in the field that would make it decidedly better than the popular cartridges on either side of it, the 270 and 30-06?
I recognize that the 280 has a "cool" factor, but does it have any practical advantage in the field that would make it decidedly better than the popular cartridges on either side of it, the 270 and 30-06?
Bob, to be an "official" Pa 760 it must meet one of two stipulations. Either see-thru's or a Redfield widefield scope. If you have both, then when another hunter crosses your path, they are obligated to make at minimum two drives for you. You post at the location of your choice.
Which is why if you Deer hunt in Pa, it is not rare to have other hunters slowly walking away when they think the possibility exists another hunter may be carrying a 760.
As many have written: Our Pa Deer hunting traditions are something we take serious.
1) Place gun in vise and secure. 2) Place one hand on the scope objective, the other hand on the ocular. 3) Gently apply force to the scope in a rocking fashion.
If you can move the scope to and fro, it is a legit WI setup.
Have to admit it became a little tense when this one gal was friending up while I was at the bar buying beers. No one in the seat beside her, so we were getting kinda close. Well, you know how crowded that place can get. Then her significant wanted his seat. We had a few words, but all calmed down shortly.
Well, you guys cost some sweet moolah today with this thread. I found a 7600 Carbine in 30-06 at the Syracuse gun show today. Used, but in great shape. I put a 2-7 Leupold VX-I on it. The action works pretty stiff though. Any suggestions on how to smooth it up?
As for the stiff action...the problem usually is a rubber 'O' ring inside the forearm mechanism. Take the forearm off and shoot some Rem Oil inside the tube. Work the action a couple of times. If that doesn't help, remove the slide and replace the 'O' ring. Get one the same size at Menards or some plumbing shop.
Most used 760/7600's that have been sitting for a couple of years have this problem. Easy fix. No worries.
Why hasnt anyone come up with a teflon ring in-lieu of the rubber crap? I remember replacing one the rubber ones, and the smith lubed it after replacing. Then at zero temps it froze up. Teflon would last forever and never need to be lubed.
Well, you guys cost some sweet moolah today with this thread. I found a 7600 Carbine in 30-06 at the Syracuse gun show today. Used, but in great shape. I put a 2-7 Leupold VX-I on it. The action works pretty stiff though. Any suggestions on how to smooth it up?
Couple things. Clean it, the slides and the o-ring. Simple fix and cheap. Take the trigger assembly out and clean it as well. The lever to be able to move the slid sometimes gets gummed up.
and the best fix...use it! Run a few mags through that sucker! Watch TV and work the action. She'll slicken up after a bit.
Remove the trigger assembly and clean out the receiver, bolt, and action bars. I use brake cleaner. Allow to dry and use a good synthetic light oil or Rem Drylube. Put a few drops of oil on the action tube the fore end works on.
In order to replace the O-ring you need to remove the barrel. The barrel is secured into the receiver by the lower steel tube under the barrel. The twin action bar slide with o-ring slides on this lower tube. You usually need heat to loosen the tube to remove the barrel. When re-assembled its needs to be loc-tite'd again. Its a lot of work for a 13 cent o-ring which brings be back to my teflon idea. Next one I do will get a teflon ring.
In order to replace the O-ring you need to remove the barrel. The barrel is secured into the receiver by the lower steel tube under the barrel. The twin action bar slide with o-ring slides on this lower tube. You usually need heat to loosen the tube to remove the barrel. When re-assembled its needs to be loc-tite'd again. Its a lot of work for a 13 cent o-ring which brings be back to my teflon idea. Next one I do will get a teflon ring.
A good cleaning fixed it. It was a lot dirtier than I realized. I took it apart and hosed it out with electrical contact cleaner several times and lubed it. Then I cleaned the barrel, inside the receiver and trigger assembly. Now it works slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Thanks for all the suggestions.
In order to replace the O-ring you need to remove the barrel. The twin action bar slide with o-ring slides on this lower tube. You usually*** need heat*** to loosen the tube to remove the barrel.
They make a TOOL for removing the barrel on 760-7600-6 Rifles.
I've never used heat to remove the barrel. And I don't use loc tite to reinstall them. They are firmly attached and need to be RE firmly attached. I use a short 2x4 to bump the tool handle to loosen. Conversely, I BUMP the handle to RE attach.
Originally Posted by River_Ridge
A good cleaning fixed it. It was a lot dirtier than I realized. Now it works slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Thanks for all the suggestions.
They make a TOOL for removing the barrel on 760-7600-6 Rifles.
I've never used heat to remove the barrel. And I don't use loc tite to reinstall them. They are firmly attached and need to be RE firmly attached. I use a short 2x4 to bump the tool handle to loosen. Conversely, I BUMP the handle to RE attach.
Jerry
That's a neat looking tool. I just tried searching for it. Brownell's came up, but when I search the site, they don't appear to carry it.
He uses a pin punch in the video. Mic McPherson suggests using a screwdriver with a 3/16" shank with the tip cut off and some electric tape rolled up on it 3/4" from the end as a stop guide in his book Accurizing the Factory Rifle.
A good cleaning fixed it. It was a lot dirtier than I realized. I took it apart and hosed it out with electrical contact cleaner several times and lubed it. Then I cleaned the barrel, inside the receiver and trigger assembly. Now it works slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Thanks for all the suggestions.
Good! Most of the time that's the issue. A lot of guys don't take the trigger assembly out and clean it. It's really pretty easy to do.
A good cleaning fixed it. It was a lot dirtier than I realized. I took it apart and hosed it out with electrical contact cleaner several times and lubed it. Then I cleaned the barrel, inside the receiver and trigger assembly. Now it works slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Thanks for all the suggestions.
Yes, Brownell's is where I got mine --- in the '80s.
I would call and talk w/them, maybe they have some that are not on the site.
God luck
Jerry
I decided to go McPherson's suggested route. Cost ... one old screwdriver, two sacrificial hacksaw blades (pretty tough shank), some electric tape and some sweat.
Here it is in action.
And here is the action tube less the o-ring. At first, I couldn't even find the o-ring, but then it fell out from inside tube. Not the outer tube though. It was inside the tube with the groove for it ... odd. Pic isn't the best, but the o-ring is shriveled, broken and rotted out. So the rattle should be cured once I get it replaced. I'm thinking Sil-Glyde brake caliper grease might be a good lube for it or maybe some of the wax based dry lubes used for chains.
I reckon that'll work. <grin> Glad you were able to get it apart. Try to get it back together AS TIGHT as it was.
I've been using 760s & M 6s for a long time which involved several rifles. Fortunately I've never had one that rattled. I had a friend in La. whose 760 rattled. I would get one fixed IF it rattled too.
A good cleaning fixed it. It was a lot dirtier than I realized. I took it apart and hosed it out with electrical contact cleaner several times and lubed it. Then I cleaned the barrel, inside the receiver and trigger assembly. Now it works slicker than deer guts on a door knob. Thanks for all the suggestions.
So the tube that holds the barrel in is just a friction fit?
If I understand your ?, No.
The tool, or as in the pic, a screw driver with a proper fitting end -- UNscrews that tube from the receiver and holds the barrel TIGHT against the receiver.
Gringo Loco, did you need to apply heat to the action tube to break it loose?
Not at all. There was no thread locker on it. I first tried just using hand pressure on the screwdriver - no dice. Then I gave it a light bump with that non-marring mallet you see in the pic. Still didn't break, so I gave it a sharper rap and it broke loose. If I were to apply a thread locker, I would go with something like blue instead of red, and only a little at the end of the thread engagement. When tightening it back up, I'll bump it with about the same force as I did to break as suggested by jwall. The modified screwdriver worked like a charm.
Why hasnt anyone come up with a teflon ring in-lieu of the rubber crap? I remember replacing one the rubber ones, and the smith lubed it after replacing. Then at zero temps it froze up. Teflon would last forever and never need to be lubed.
I'm not sure teflon would work forever. Teflon has great temperature, chemical and low friction properties, but it has drawbacks (see below). Choosing the right material is a balance of compromises for temperature ranges, chemical resistance and mechanical properties.
Originally Posted by Source: www.theoringstore.com
PTFE is not a rubber compound, but a white thermoplastic resin which can be formed into various shapes by either machining or molding. It is a premium grade material which is often specified in harsh chemical environments where no rubber material is suitable as it is impervious to virtually all fluids and gases. PTFE exhibits very low moisture absorption and can withstand extreme high and low temperatures. It also provides the lowest coefficient of friction of any seal material. One major drawback to using PTFE is its tendency to deform under a continuous load, a phenomenon commonly known as creep or cold flow. Loading PTFE with fillers such as bronze, graphite, glass, or molybdenum disulfide can counteract this behavior substantially. PTFE also has relatively poor elasticity compared to other sealing materials.
I just ordered an array of o-rings from TheOringStore.com for $8.44 shipping included. I didn't want to spend the dollars for just a single o-ring from Remington or MidwayUSA. The Remington o-ring part number is F15215 and costs $4.37 + $6 shipping from Remington. MidwayUSA charges $5.99 and according to one reviewer, $8 shipping. However, ordering one on your own leaves you with having to figure out what material and size you need. The material Remington uses is viton, not your typical rubber o-ring found at the plumbing or hardware store. However, there are several different choices of viton o-rings with differing properties. I also looked at teflon, nitrile and polyurethane o-rings. I ruled out teflon but I am getting a few polyurethane and nitrile o-rings as well as some vitons. The prices are cheap enough that shipping is the largest cost factor.
As for size, from some online searching I found a post from another forum stating the 760's o-ring is 0.5" ID and 0.06 thick. I also measured mine to be 0.5" ID and ~1/16" thick. That corresponds to a number 014 size o-ring which is nominally 0.5" ID, 1/16" or 0.070 +/- .003 thick and 5/8" OD ( O-ring Size Chart).
I think the biggest issues with the o-ring failures are cold temps, grit in the action tube, harsh chemicals from gun cleaners and poor lubes or no lube. The viton is resistant to a lot of harsh chemicals, but not all of them. So I wouldn't shoot gun scrubber, carb cleaner or acetone up inside the action tube where the o-ring is, unless you've disassembled it and removed the o-ring first, and only use a lube that's good for cold temps and friendly to o-rings. It's not that difficult to disassemble and clean a 760/7600. You just need the right tools and the know-how => Gunsmithing Disassembly: Remington 7600 (Gunworks) .
Yes, thanks for posting, lets us know how the new material works out.
Hahaha. All that gack I posted for "just an o-ring". Your comment about the teflon is what got me to searching the different materials ... that and the rather high cost to get more than one of Remington's. Honestly though, unless there is an obvious shortcoming from any of them or a quick failure, it will likely be some time before I see any difference. In some searching online, a lot of guys just go to the plumbing section of their hardware store and find one that fits. And they recommend that to others in their forums, so even plain rubber ones must work for at least a little while. I figure I just purchased more than a lifetime supply of o-rings for this gun. I hunt in Texas and it doesn't get as cold, usually, as it does in your neck of the woods in Pa. My 7600 35 Whelen, by the way, came from Pa. I bought it on Gunbroker. Vintage 1988 according to Remington.
I've often wondered if it's possible to have a hard and wear resistant polymer tube machined to be a tap on fit to replace the O-ring. Polish the inside of the fore end tube "slicker than a minnow's dick" so it would slide smooth and quiet and have a more solid fore end.
Yes, thanks for posting, lets us know how the new material works out.
Hahaha. All that gack I posted for "just an o-ring". Your comment about the teflon is what got me to searching the different materials ... that and the rather high cost to get more than one of Remington's. Honestly though, unless there is an obvious shortcoming from any of them or a quick failure, it will likely be some time before I see any difference. In some searching online, a lot of guys just go to the plumbing section of their hardware store and find one that fits. And they recommend that to others in their forums, so even plain rubber ones must work for at least a little while. I figure I just purchased more than a lifetime supply of o-rings for this gun. I hunt in Texas and it doesn't get as cold, usually, as it does in your neck of the woods in Pa. My 7600 35 Whelen, by the way, came from Pa. I bought it on Gunbroker. Vintage 1988 according to Remington.
I havent had any problems with mine freezing up here. It was in Alaska where i replaced my first one after realizing the forearm rattled. So I ordered a Remmy O-ring and the dam thing ended up freezing up. At first it was real sluggish to pump, than the thing fell out of there. So I put another in and have been good so far.
I'll check this post in about ten years to see how yours held up
I've often wondered if it's possible to have a hard and wear resistant polymer tube machined to be a tap on fit to replace the O-ring. Polish the inside of the fore end tube "slicker than a minnow's dick" so it would slide smooth and quiet and have a more solid fore end.
BUMP -- in reference to "Hunting Rifles" discussion of no.s and % of cartridges produced in the Rem M Six.
I had filed this post for reference and easy access.
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
While thumbing through the October 2005 issue of the American Rifleman I found a full length article on the Remington 760/7600 rifles. On page 83 there was a breakdown of the production numbers on the 760 and Model 6.
According to this article the total production of the 760 1,034,438 units were produced. Of this figure 62,726 were in the carbine configuration. The production numbers of the various calibers were as follows:
I have two: a 760 in .30-06 that I inherited, and a 7600 in 280 Rem. The 280 is boringly accurate with Hornady 139 BTSP. I shoot lefty, so I had a lefty safety put in the 7600. Eventually I'll prolly do that with the 760, too, but I'm not necessarily in a hurry to do that.
My first deer rifle is a "new style" 760 (squared off pump, not corncob) in .308. I recently acquired an old style 760 rebored to .358 Win that I hope to shoot a few with this year. My Dad's first rifle was a old style 760 .30-06 that has killed a couple truck loads of deer, a Pa Black Bear, and god knows what else. he has taken to collecting 760's since retiring and has a variety of calibers, but his 2 .257's are his favorites. Saw a 760 stamped ".244 Remington" once, but wasn't about to pay the fella what he was asking.
Several years ago, the Cabela's in LaVista, NE, had a minty 760 BDL with the "5-diamond" cut checkering in 244 for under $500. I posted about it on 24-HCF in case anyone was interested. Maybe somebody was, 'cause it was no longer in the used gun rack the next time I was at Cabela's. If I hadn't been my Wife's bad graces due to some perceived transgression, I would have bought it just 'cause it was so nice and chambered for an uncommon cartridge.
This is BobinNH's 760 carbine in 280 Rem. I notice the left action (slide) bar has LITTLE wear on the blueing. If the right one is similar, that rifle hasn't been jacked a whole lot.
This is BobinNH's 760 carbine in 280 Rem. I notice the left action (slide) bar has LITTLE wear on the blueing. If the right one is similar, that rifle hasn't been jacked a whole lot.
Just picked this up today from a buddy. 300 Savage made in April of 1954. It was his 86yr old uncle's one-and-only rifle so it has lots of experience hunting in WI and MI's U.P.
It is all original except for the peep sight and the old boy kept is squeaky clean. It has a Weaver 2.5x with post reticle in Weaver pivot mounts. The glass is still clear and bright.
Good chance it will be making a return trip to MI in a couple of weeks.
I didn't know that anyone, either Lyman or Marble's, ever made a tang peep sight for the Remington 760. That style of sight on that make/model of rifle is something that I've never seen before.
Well I will stick up for him because he DID need it.....hahaha!
Will that see Kansas?
Bob--pretty good chance of that.
It came with three boxes of brass so the dies are on the way from Midway. I'm thinking 150gr Hornadys with IMR 4064 should be about right--keeping the load 'vintage' along with the rifle and shooter
The 270 will get the majority of the duty. The Savage will be replacing the 38-55 this year for doe duty. After that circus last year, it has been relegated to punching paper and wall duty.
Just tuned up my two 7600's for next Saturday's opening day. My 7600 carbine in 30-06 has served me well for many years. Handles like a dream with the 1.5-5x Leupold mounted and is very quick on follow up. Also been using a 7600 I had converted to .358 Win with same scope set up. This one has a 20" Krieger barrel and also handles & shoots extremely well.
I also have a .280 Rem 7600 rifle waiting in the wings if necessary.
Just tuned up my two 7600's for next Saturday's opening day. My 7600 carbine in 30-06 has served me well for many years. Handles like a dream with the 1.5-5x Leupold mounted and is very quick on follow up. Also been using a 7600 I had converted to .358 Win with same scope set up. This one has a 20" Krieger barrel and also handles & shoots extremely well.
I also have a .280 Rem 7600 rifle waiting in the wings if necessary.
Great guns!
Dave
I predict that 358 carbine will soon become your favorite. Mine is.
Yup better than a spear But as a famous gunwriter once said, 'it's the bullet, not the headstamp' that kills the critter. I should have used a soft lead bullet instead of hard cast. Made for a long tracking job. Live and learn!
So have you decided which thunder stick you are going to bring this year?
Had to resurrect this thread, one of the best ones on here. Just read through the whole thing.
I've been looking for a pristine 760 in .35 Remington for a long time. Missed the one on here that Magmarc told me about because I was in Florida last year.
Don't want to talk prematurely, BUT, my son has a line on one. It is in a shop, upstairs on a repair rack. Apparently had a minor repair done and has sat on the rack for 4 years or so. They finally contacted the owners and they don't want it, and we have first crack at it. That's all I know, hopefully will know more next week.
If I am fortunate enough to get it, these Weaver Pivot rings and base are going on it. And the next thing I'll be searching for is an old school El Paso Weaver low power scope with Post and cross hair recticle.
Not that I'll use the iron sights because they are blurry to me nowadays, but this pivot mount is the epitome of coolness as far as I am concerned. I will post when I learn more, hopefully this coming week.
Is it an older 760 with more drop at toe & heel? That increases FELT recoil>>altho actual recoil is NOT stronger.
No I haven't made or bought any carbine--not my cup o tea. The closest I've come to that was a Ruger 77 tanger Ultra Light in 308 W 20" bll. I liked the rifle fine for woods hunting.
Had to resurrect this thread, one of the best ones on here. Just read through the whole thing.
I've been looking for a pristine 760 in .35 Remington for a long time. Missed the one on here that Magmarc told me about because I was in Florida last year.
Don't want to talk prematurely, BUT, my son has a line on one. It is in a shop, upstairs on a repair rack. Apparently had a minor repair done and has sat on the rack for 4 years or so. They finally contacted the owners and they don't want it, and we have first crack at it. That's all I know, hopefully will know more next week.
If I am fortunate enough to get it, these Weaver Pivot rings and base are going on it. And the next thing I'll be searching for is an old school El Paso Weaver low power scope with Post and cross hair recticle.
Not that I'll use the iron sights because they are blurry to me nowadays, but this pivot mount is the epitome of coolness as far as I am concerned. I will post when I learn more, hopefully this coming week.
wink_man
I have those mounts on several of my 760/7600's, even my old 870 slug gun has them. Never had an issue with them returning to zero. And, yes, I'm 'old school'
I recently picked up a 760 in 300Sav with an El Paso Weaver 2.5X with post reticle in Weaver pivots. Haven't had much time to play with it yet. Pretty cool old rifle--bought it from the original owner.
'Twas just in need of a little lubrication of the "O" ring in the slide. Common situation with old 760's and an easy fix.
I'll keep my eyes open for a .308 carbine for ya. Lots of gun shows coming up. How about a 35Rem? They are the schitze in a carbine. Easy on your shoulder but devastating on a deer's shoulder.
Well...I enjoyed reading this thread, and it got my blood up for a760! I have a few 14's & 141's, but never owned a 760 or 7600. Found this one and just couldn't resist it. 1952 760 in 300 Savage, love that wood!
I have those mounts on several of my 760/7600's, even my old 870 slug gun has them. Never had an issue with them returning to zero. And, yes, I'm 'old school'
I recently picked up a 760 in 300Sav with an El Paso Weaver 2.5X with post reticle in Weaver pivots. Haven't had much time to play with it yet. Pretty cool old rifle--bought it from the original owner.
I'd mention something about you getting another slide-action, deer swatter...but who am I to talk?!
I bumped this old thread UP for Ruger77Shooter who is looking for info on 7600s. This is P 1---- Lots of reading & Pix
Originally Posted by MagMarc
I decided to do most of my hunting this year with a 760 06. After a season of use and 2 deer with it I gotta say, I love the darned rifle. It shoots right around MOA with several loads, handles great, and it's easy to carry.
Thanks, Mr. Jerry! I appreciate it. Have my daddy's old 760 (30/06 of course) that he bought back in the 60's. If the 6mm I found was that old, I think I would probably buy it even though I have 2 of that caliber (77 tang safety and Rem. 788). Thanks again for the resurrection of the thread!
Buddy just got a 760 in .35 rem. Older version. I'm looking for the last 760 type (7600 wood). If no find, just rebarrel a Ruger #1. Gives me a excuse to hit some gunshows.
Thnx however it was easy for me to find it. I toggled my posts under Deer Hunting & Pump Rifles. Since I participated in the thread it was familiar to me.
You Are Welcome - I think it's a very good thread.
Buddy just got a 760 in .35 rem. Older version. I'm looking for the last 760 type (7600 wood). If no find, just rebarrel a Ruger #1. Gives me a excuse to hit some gunshows.
Hookeye, that later version of the 760 in 35Rem shows up at gun shows on occasion. I have found several over the years. Rechambered one of them to .358Win and cut the bbl back to 19" it is my favorite 760. Heck of a bear smacker with some 200gr TTSX.
Thnx however it was easy for me to find it. I toggled my posts under Deer Hunting & Pump Rifles. Since I participated in the thread it was familiar to me.
You Are Welcome - I think it's a very good thread.
Jerry
Jerry you are an enabler! But that's OK, so am I. *L*
Thnx however it was easy for me to find it. I toggled my posts under Deer Hunting & Pump Rifles. Since I participated in the thread it was familiar to me.
You Are Welcome - I think it's a very good thread.
Jerry
Jerry you are an enabler! But that's OK, so am I. *L*
Thnx however it was easy for me to find it. I toggled my posts under Deer Hunting & Pump Rifles. Since I participated in the thread it was familiar to me.
You Are Welcome - I think it's a very good thread.
Jerry
Jerry you are an enabler! But that's OK, so am I. *L*
Besides, this IS one of my favorite threads. So many of our REAL hunters participated plus our BUDDY BobinNH did also. There are a lot of GREAT pix to boot.
Thanks, Mr. Jerry! I appreciate it. Have my daddy's old 760 (30/06 of course) that he bought back in the 60's. If the 6mm I found was that old, I think I would probably buy it even though I have 2 of that caliber (77 tang safety and Rem. 788). Thanks again for the resurrection of the thread!
Ruger - I was thumbing thru this thread and found the #s on P 89
Well...I enjoyed reading this thread, and it got my blood up for a760! I have a few 14's & 141's, but never owned a 760 or 7600. Found this one and just couldn't resist it. 1952 760 in 300 Savage, love that wood!
Congratulations on a nice rifle with REALLY nice wood, hclark. You really got a jewel there.
I had been looking for an early M760 in either 300 Sav or 35 rem for quite a while. Stumbled across this one last year and jumped on it. The older 4X40 Tasco scope is remarkably clear and was still zeroed. The barrel was shiny and sharp and a patch soaked with Ed's Red I pushed through it looked exactly the same at the other end. The crown was perfect. I really wonder how much the thing has been shot! The barrel stamp is CYY, indicating an April, 1952 date of manufacture. The SN is 208XX. According to a moderator at the Remington Society Forum, April 1952 was probably the first month the M760 was chambered in 300 Savage.
Being D&Ted for a scope might bum some guys out, but was perfect for me. I am not a collector and hunt with all my rifles. Since my eyes will no longer tolerate iron sights, the scope was welcome.
I really wonder how much the thing has been shot! The barrel stamp is CYY, indicating an April, 1952 date of manufacture. The SN is 208XX. According to a moderator at the Remington Society Forum, April 1952 was probably the first month the M760 was chambered in 300 Savage.
Being D&Ted for a scope might bum some guys out, but was perfect for me. I am not a collector and hunt with all my rifles. Since my eyes will no longer tolerate iron sights, the scope was welcome.
NOW LOOK HERE DANG IT !!!
The 300 Savage is the ONE caliber (cart.) I've NEVER owned AND IT is the ONLY 1 I would like to have in a 760 OEM.
This is BobinNH's 760 carbine in 280 Rem. I notice the left action (slide) bar has LITTLE wear on the blueing. If the right one is similar, that rifle hasn't been jacked a whole lot.
*( Don't WTC photobucket did w/other pic-- I substituted ANOTHER! )
Bob asked me to post this pic for him- before he started posting pix I wonder who has this 280 Carbine now ?........just curious
This is BobinNH's 760 carbine in 280 Rem. I notice the left action (slide) bar has LITTLE wear on the blueing. If the right one is similar, that rifle hasn't been jacked a whole lot.
Jerry
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Got this one for $540 if anyone wants one...a 30-06 BDL Deluxe in near unused condition. You can see the bluing is still on the action rails. Comes with see-thru mounts and Bushnell scope; a true Amish Machine Gun :-)
thats what i call the "disco version". that exact config was really popular here in PA in the 70's. basket weave monte carlo stock, stepped receiver, see-thru's and an '06 to boot. that'd go good with bell bottoms and big sideburns. i wanted one like crazy and ended up getting an older model 270 that i still have. and ya, it still has the see-thru's.
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Well I got to the bottom of this PIC thing.!! I'll be looking FOR another server.
To UPgrade to Plus 500 ---- cost $399.99 PER YEAR ! For time being all photos I'd post will be hi jacked so........ There are other servers........I'll figger summin out to retrieve my photos! !
I've been with P B since 2011 with NO problems. This is a BIGGIE.
Dang that BDL is cool as all get out. Unfortunately I was informed today how much I gotta pay for kids college. So no new guns until I put that back in the bank.
Cuz shot his 760 in .35 rem today. Is not mint but not bad either. See through rings, Leupold 2-7X (VX1) would not dial in.
Gave him some Burriz Zee rings (signature) to try. Think it'll be low enough the rear sight will need knocked out.
She's got a WGRS on it now. Really love shooting this thing and will probably take it hunting this year but I got two No.1's and a Alaskan serenading me as well...
760 has an unwarranted reputation for not being accurate. I got mine to 1", others could probably do better. I have noticed this gun heats up fast. You have to wait between shots, if you really want to check the load. Also gets dirty quick, low 20s and opening up, and first few off. So I see how it got a bad rep.
Replacing the oring, which is a bit of PIA, will get rid of the rattle.
760 has an unwarranted reputation for not being accurate. I got mine to 1", others could probably do better. I have noticed this gun heats up fast. You have to wait between shots, if you really want to check the load. Also gets dirty quick, low 20s and opening up, and first few off. So I see how it got a bad rep.
Replacing the oring, which is a bit of PIA, will get rid of the rattle.
760 has an unwarranted reputation for not being accurate. I got mine to 1", others could probably do better. I have noticed this gun heats up fast. You have to wait between shots, if you really want to check the load. Also gets dirty quick, low 20s and opening up, and first few off. So I see how it got a bad rep.
Replacing the oring, which is a bit of PIA, will get rid of the rattle.
More proof you're an idiot.
That may be. But if you were intelligent, you would build up a case, discussing your points.
I can say you are a double idiot. So, I am the winner, in your world.
'Twas just in need of a little lubrication of the "O" ring in the slide. Common situation with old 760's and an easy fix.
I'll keep my eyes open for a .308 carbine for ya. Lots of gun shows coming up. How about a 35Rem? They are the schitze in a carbine. Easy on your shoulder but devastating on a deer's shoulder.
Paul
While I think it is probably a good idea to lube the oring. What was probably the original in mine was in pieces.
Gently torch the red locktite. I also drilled the holes on mine out to 1/4", for a bigger punch to break it free. This did require a bit of filng to get rid of the burrs, to smooth it out.
After 200 rounds, it loosened up a bit but not rattling. I should have been lubing it hard when doing lots of shooting.
I was thinking of cutting it down to 18". Comparing POI and fps, before and after. But I just bought a 45-70 in 18.5
I suspect mine came from PA, bought it in IN, after steel mill in PA closed. Many of the guys came to work at the mill there.
Lots of complaints on trigger. Mine was 4.5, and I didn't notice any creep. Maybe it was modified. I put a timney in, lowered it to 2.5. Nice. But probably not worth the money. But I had some extra
I retired mine for awhile, after racking it softly, caused a jam when looking at a doe, Was able to load a new one a few minutes later, and still got it. Thought about selling it. But I am not into selling stuff. Plus I just kept shouldering, like that stock. So took it out of retirement last fall. It liked partions. Funny my 700, same twist, and length, shoots interlocks. They both like same load. But neither will shoot the other's bullet.
Is there a trick to getting the factory trigger below 12lbs without replacing it?
I have 'a few' 760/7600's. All are right between 4 to 4.25# as they originally came from the factory.
Most gunsmiths can get them down to 3# or tad less with little difficulty. There are aftermarket triggers available, if need be. However, I have never felt a need for either option.
I bought mine used, at 4.5. Wondered if it had been lightened. Seemed light for the 80s. Thats what sucks with used guns, you are alwasy guessing.
So what are you guys planning to shoot out of your pumps this season? I've got some 180 grain Hornady Round Nose loaded up for my 7600 30-06 Carbine. They just seem like the classic load for this gun.
So what are you guys planning to shoot out of your pumps this season? I've got some 180 grain Hornady Round Nose loaded up for my 7600 30-06 Carbine. They just seem like the classic load for this gun.
180 grain. Winchester PP. They shoot under an inch and are cheap
Is there a trick to getting the factory trigger below 12lbs without replacing it?
I have 'a few' 760/7600's. All are right between 4 to 4.25# as they originally came from the factory.
Most gunsmiths can get them down to 3# or tad less with little difficulty. There are aftermarket triggers available, if need be. However, I have never felt a need for either option.
I bought mine used, at 4.5. Wondered if it had been lightened. Seemed light for the 80s. Thats what sucks with used guns, you are alwasy guessing.
Is there a trick to getting the factory trigger below 12lbs without replacing it?
I have 'a few' 760/7600's. All are right between 4 to 4.25# as they originally came from the factory.
Most gunsmiths can get them down to 3# or tad less with little difficulty. There are aftermarket triggers available, if need be. However, I have never felt a need for either option.
I bought mine used, at 4.5. Wondered if it had been lightened. Seemed light for the 80s. Thats what sucks with used guns, you are alwasy guessing.
I had a rare one in .257 Roberts and I wondered where all the recoil went? I also had a M141 Remington in .35 Remington, but I sold them both off because they rattled in the slide. My deer hunting is up close and personal and any unusual noise like a slide rattle puts the deer somewhere else besides the meat pole. Those '06's crack you pretty well in a 760 and an .30-06 has never been particularly pleasant to shoot in anything.
I had a rare one in .257 Roberts and I wondered where all the recoil went? I also had a M141 Remington in .35 Remington, but I sold them both off because they rattled in the slide. My deer hunting is up close and personal and any unusual noise like a slide rattle puts the deer somewhere else besides the meat pole. Those '06's crack you pretty well in a 760 and an .30-06 has never been particularly pleasant to shoot in anything.
2 of my 3 biggest bucks were shot at less than 15 yards in woods to heavy for a wood tick. Both shot with 7600 '06. It was too late for either one when the safety "clicked".
None of them heard that pesky ol slide rattling either. I bet you coat makes more noise than my rifle...until it goes off.
tzone, you bring up a good point about "clicking" off that safety. Early on with my then new Ruger M77 MKll I put an 8 pointer into launch mode when I clicked off that M70 type safety instead on letting it down slowly with my right thumb. I was nose bleed high in a white pine tree and that buck knew that he didn't like what he'd just heard. I did crack him out about 80 yards when he stopped to look around, but it would have been a far easier shot when he was way closer. I really like those pumps like my 20 gauge M12 bird gun because they are light, fast shooting and carry beautifully. The slide rattle on those deer rifles though was just something else that I could control and it is not even a factor with my bolt actions or my 99F .300 Savage. I've read all the Benoit books about tracking down the big bucks and they alone were probably pretty responsible for selling lots of those Remington 760 carbines. As a youth I tried that and got a lot of bucks... for other guys way up ahead that were more patient than I was and had "my" deer run past them. 600,000 of us deer hunters here and darn hard to have the woods to yourself.
I had a rare one in .257 Roberts and I wondered where all the recoil went? I also had a M141 Remington in .35 Remington, but I sold them both off because they rattled in the slide. My deer hunting is up close and personal and any unusual noise like a slide rattle puts the deer somewhere else besides the meat pole. Those '06's crack you pretty well in a 760 and an .30-06 has never been particularly pleasant to shoot in anything.
2 of my 3 biggest bucks were shot at less than 15 yards in woods to heavy for a wood tick. Both shot with 7600 '06. It was too late for either one when the safety "clicked".
None of them heard that pesky ol slide rattling either. I bet you coat makes more noise than my rifle...until it goes off.
Few people have either the skill or the patience to still-hunt in timber without making some noise. Trackers, like the Berniers and Benoits, being the rare exceptions. I like Remington 760 series pump guns, my black timber elk rifle is a 760 in 270, and they are an iconic northeastern hunting rifle, but I've never seen one in the field or on the range anywhere that I've been west of the Mississippi River unless it was the one that I was holding.
Am down to 12 rounds of 170g 30 Remington for the Model 14...gonna have to get some dies for next year...:)
It would be nice if Remington could make a run of .30 and .32 Remington 170 grain RNCL factory ammo every year or two. Lots of those old Remington 8/81s and 14/141s gathering dust that would actually get used if there was ammo available to feed them.
I hear you there tomk and the reason that I went looking for a .35 Remington instead of a .25,.30 or a .32. I was talking to my brother-in-law over the weekend and he said that he is trying to sell his .32 Remingtom M14 with 12 boxes of shells and I said that those shells are probably worth more than the rifle. It is at best a pretty fair eastern woods rifle, but he is in Montana without a lot of buyers I suspect.
TomK, I have 20+ boxes of Silvertips, if you're interested. They've been kept in a climate controlled atmosphere for the last 50 years. Let me know if you're interested.
I hear you there tomk and the reason that I went looking for a .35 Remington instead of a .25,.30 or a .32. I was talking to my brother-in-law over the weekend and he said that he is trying to sell his .32 Remingtom M14 with 12 boxes of shells and I said that those shells are probably worth more than the rifle. It is at best a pretty fair eastern woods rifle, but he is in Montana without a lot of buyers I suspect.
tzone, I've got a text in to Kevin to ask him, but he has not gotten back to me as yet. I was not real sure if it was a M14 or a M141, so when I know more I can let you know. A buddy of mine has a M14 in a .30 Remington I know and so does my uncle and both those rifles are in retirement because the ammunition is so scarce. Those M14's are about the lightest .30-30 equivalent rifle that I've ever handled. My .35 M141 was over built I thought, a real chunk and it sure didn't need that long of a barrel.
Don't burn much in it. I use a bolt unless we are tracking and the last two years, we didn't have snow while at camp to track. They really aren't difficult to reload for and whitetail aren't too fussy about which bullet weight is killing them. Have about 80 pieces of brass--which may last several lifetimes...:)
Remington could do that, I suppose, but I think Buffalo might still be.
My first rifle I actually purchased rather than borrow, was a 30 cal 141. The 14s are just a beautiful thing, practical and well-engineered by guys who were users, like a lot of gear from that era when American labor was skilled and comparatively cheap. Stuff was built to last for several centuries and to be repaired, rather than replaced.
tzone, that is a M141 in .32 Remington that Kevin has with 9 1/2 boxes of 170 grain Super-X loads in the white boxes. The ammo is probably more scarce than the gun is.
no major mfg has made 32 rem in at least 40 years as far as i know. remington made 30 rem up until the 90's. 30 rem brass is still made every once in a while and you can find some offbrand 32 rem brass sometimes but i hear the quality is sketchy. nice thing is the 30 rem brass can easily be resized into 32 or 25. you just need to watch COL on those old pumps or you'll hang one up good. best to mic every one. i have all models of rem pumps in full length and carbine. those old 14 and 141 carbines are the slickest little rifles i know.
I picked up a 141 last winter and really like the looks and feel of it. After working up some loads for it I can shoot minute of orange five shot groups at 50 yards with the open sights,I sure won't have it drilled and tapped for scope mounting! I'd like to mount a peep sight on it but they are as rare as hen's teeth.The gun is on the heavy side, but when you pull it up,the sights are aligned well.Hopefully I'll kill a deer with it this fall.
no major mfg has made 32 rem in at least 40 years as far as i know. remington made 30 rem up until the 90's. 30 rem brass is still made every once in a while and you can find some offbrand 32 rem brass sometimes but i hear the quality is sketchy. nice thing is the 30 rem brass can easily be resized into 32 or 25. you just need to watch COL on those old pumps or you'll hang one up good. best to mic every one. i have all models of rem pumps in full length and carbine. those old 14 and 141 carbines are the slickest little rifles i know.
Yes, you're correct. I was thinking of .32 Winchester. Sorry.
My local shop used to have racks of 760/7600s. All different calibers at times also. Now it is rare that they have any. Wish I had bought a couple more when the getting was good and the prices right.
i know a little shop in north west pa that is like a used pump museum. racks loaded with them. i found the holy grail there a few years back. 7600 35 whelen factory carbine. non-cataloged and made for the european market in early 2000's. i think mine is 2003. last time i was there they had a bunch of the grice special maple stocked ones and just about any flavor you wanted in rifles and a few carbines. you have to ask the guy about the carbines. sometimes he has them in the safe.
Oh yeah, there have been some European pumps, but I always thought they were ment for US.
I've bought a couple of 760s in 30-06 from Simpson, LTD, that they imported from Sweden. One of them has decals on the stock that appear to be tags for moose and black grouse/capercaillie.
i know a little shop in north west pa that is like a used pump museum. racks loaded with them. i found the holy grail there a few years back. 7600 35 whelen factory carbine. non-cataloged and made for the european market in early 2000's. i think mine is 2003. last time i was there they had a bunch of the grice special maple stocked ones and just about any flavor you wanted in rifles and a few carbines. you have to ask the guy about the carbines. sometimes he has them in the safe.
That 760 carbine would be tempting in a 300 Savage--for me anyway. I imagine that never happened...
I think that the only cartridges that the 760 carbine was cataloged in were 270, 280, 308, and 30-06. They may have been made for other cartridges, but those would have been non-cataloged, limited run size, rifles.
That 760 carbine would be tempting in a 300 Savage--for me anyway. I imagine that never happened...
I think that the only cartridges that the 760 carbine was cataloged in were 270, 280, 308, and 30-06. They may have been made for other cartridges, but those would have been non-cataloged, limited run size, rifles.
35 too. very few. something like 300 in the early to mid 60's.
I made my own carbine out of that really long 24" barrel on a M141 .35 Remington. Being a kind of squirrel like tree climber/hunter in my youth, those long barrels caught on way more branches than the 18-20" versions. I did have one of those 18.5" .308 Remington 742 semi-autos when I thought that I needed to shoot fast and I didn't shoot it often enough to realize that it was overly loud. Just not real well made with stamped parts and a short lifespan because that breech bolt worked those receiver rails like a milling machine.
The more you shoot an 18" in a high power, the less it bothers you...
I wouldn't mind knocking a couple inches off the Model 14"s barrel, though I realize it may be the worst kind of apostasy--worse even than putting a synthetic stock on a G33. And as I learned on 24hr, the heretic receives a special place in hell for that. But maybe they meant something like a first class seat...
Anyway at 7# even, it is a sweetheart for what I use it for. Practically perfect, just like what's her name.
I made my own carbine out of that really long 24" barrel on a M141 .35 Remington. Being a kind of squirrel like tree climber/hunter in my youth, those long barrels caught on way more branches than the 18-20" versions. I did have one of those 18.5" .308 Remington 742 semi-autos when I thought that I needed to shoot fast and I didn't shoot it often enough to realize that it was overly loud. Just not real well made with stamped parts and a short lifespan because that breech bolt worked those receiver rails like a milling machine.
IIRC, John Wooter's had a Remington 14 or 141 in 35 Remington with the barrel cut back so that the muzzle was just a little longer than the magazine tube. I seem to remember see a picture of it in a magazine article at some point in history.
i have a pile of 141 parts that i'm going to make into another carbine one of these days. need to do some acraglass work on the wood and refinish it. then i'll get my gunsmith buddy to cut the barrel down, remount the front site and hot blue it. i think that's going to be my winter project this year.
I'd put the same one on it in...a Leupold 1-4x20 with a HD reticle. I like irons, but lately the problem with tracking has been this: by the time both eyes get around to focusing on both sights, the buck has had a coffee and departed.
i know a little shop in north west pa that is like a used pump museum. racks loaded with them. i found the holy grail there a few years back. 7600 35 whelen factory carbine. non-cataloged and made for the european market in early 2000's. i think mine is 2003. last time i was there they had a bunch of the grice special maple stocked ones and just about any flavor you wanted in rifles and a few carbines. you have to ask the guy about the carbines. sometimes he has them in the safe.
on of my 14R's has a leupold 2-7x28 compact on it. it was already d&t'd when i bought it in real rough shape so i fixed and refinished the stock and had my buddy hot blue it. looks like a new gun. it obviously looks better without the scope but that little scope makes all the difference when hunting. the only other 14/141 i have with a scope is my dads 141 35. its had a mid 60's tasco 4x on see-thrus on it as long as i remember and still shoots like a laser. just don't want to take that scope out in the damp or you'll be needing those see-thrus.
Do you have a 14r on hand, that you could tell me what they actually weigh?
I'd love to have one, but as much as I use a pump cannot justify the prices and am no collector. Making one out of a beater 141 makes sense, though online there seems to be a lot of pride in them...:)
I fell into one Saturday myself. A not very used 760 in .35 Rem.
I was at the LGS picking up a scope and a guy was trading a 760 in on a Mossberg Patriot or some crap. I asked LGS counter guy what it was an he told me "look for myself," since he knows I'm a pump guy. He smiled and asked if he should put it away for me, but he knew the answer already.
I asked the owner why he was trading it and he said he's sick of not finding ammo for it and having to pay through the nose for it. Sounds good to me, I have a few boxes of Core Lokts for it.
t rather than cut that barrel, I would look for one of the older Rem pump .35,s.. I saw several a Williams Gunshop in Mich.. They would not sell me one because I live in Wy.. Often they had scopes mounted that cut the collector value.. Just a thought.. Those were slick old rifles, not that yours is not...
First deer I shot was a doe that dressed 132#. I was in a stand on a small ridge, she down in creekbottom, and about 50 yards. I aimed to clip onside shoulder to see what would happen, deer quartering to. BOOM! and she's running toward me and loops to right...........slams into fallen tree and stretches a leg............done. I did clip the shoulderblade, getting one lung and plowed a nasty hamburger type hole through the liver. Rib had a white spot on far side where a chink came out. Bullet had come apart, biggest I could find (chunk) through the soup was less than 50 gr pc.
Next yr, same load........131" 9 pt at 75 yards. Behind shoulder onside, front of shoulder exit on far side. Exit was larger than entrance. he flinched and ran hard for less than 75 yards, looks to have died mid stride.
BT was minimal at 20 yards. 40 yards it was pretty darn good.
Doe had no exit, high entrance.........so no BT.
Hornady 200 RN, loaded hot enough to almost stick in the Contender carbine (whatever that was). Had a guy cutting cases to meet our PCR spec, he loaded some up. I said they were too wimpy, next batch he cranked em up and they shot around an inch at 100 and had some bump. I told him that works for me!
Congrats on the moose! That's my dream hunt.[/quote]
Thanks, Tom. I just posted the story and pics in the Canada Forum. Just wish I had my Whelen along this year!
Cut that sucker off! Nothing like a short 7600 for handling in the bushy stuff we tend to hunt in WI, MI and MN, especially out of a tree stand. 20" is good, 19" is better.
Well, hunting bud bought his 2nd 760 in .35 rem. Dunno if he wants two or this one in better shape (have to be like new then). If he goes to dump one it'll be in my safe. If he takes too long to figure out which he likes best.......I might already have one.
My eyes hurt from seeing the scope on that rifle...but I understand. I can't see very well and would have to scope it. but man, what a sweet rifle tomk.
Not so local Gunstore I visited last Saturday has one LNIB in 35 remington hanging on the wall. It is very very tempting
That rifle looks familiar, TomK. I picked up this 35 Rem last Spring. I had one years ago that I let a friend have when my eyes got where I couldn't hunt with irons. I refused to drill that old classic, but this one was already drilled, so....
Was told they don't have a lot of meat to drill into to hold a screw for a mount on the topside, so you see some of them with additional exploratory drilling...:)
The 35 Rem is the perfect cartridge for the Remmy pump IMO. Mine is an 06 but has sentimental value so not changing anytime soon. I load 150 Hornady's at 2700 with a mild charge of RL15. Reduced blast gets you on target faster for full boom-chicka-boom effect😀
The pad is ill-fitted so will be replaced first. Bbl cut to 20" and a Williams FP receiver sight fitted next as well as the trigger tweeked. Will make a perfect gun for the ATV and a lot of other hunting for that matter.
I have a rem 7600 that I've owned for awhile. It has alway's been a good shooter. A couple year's ago I had Nathan Chesney cut the bbl to 18.5 inches, remount front sight and rework the trigger, and added a oversize safety. He did a great job. Sometime's wish I had him do 20 inches but to late now. Just mounted a leupold 1.5 to 5 and sighted it in today. Hopefully this year it make's meat. Karl
So I have finally run across that pristine Remington 760 pump that I've been looking for for years in .35 Remington. The first one my son had a line on didn't work out.
This gun looks to be around 79 vintage, is pristine and appears to be unfired, although that can't be verified. Gun still has the filler screws in the receiver and not a scratch or mark on it. 22 inch barrel, not a carbine.
I will be picking it up somewhere around the 22nd of this month, and pictures will follow.
I have a set of Weaver Pivot mounts and rings for it, so now I need to find either an El Paso Weaver K1.5 or K2.5 with post and cross hair or a Denver Redfield of the same persuasion.
I have a rem 7600 that I've owned for awhile. It has alway's been a good shooter. A couple year's ago I had Nathan Chesney cut the bbl to 18.5 inches, remount front sight and rework the trigger, and added a oversize safety. He did a great job. Sometime's wish I had him do 20 inches but to late now. Just mounted a leupold 1.5 to 5 and sighted it in today. Hopefully this year it make's meat. Karl
I'm thinking of having him work mine over. I'd lop it at 20" though.
Went to a local LGS today to place a "mistake" on consignment, for which I hoped to receive $500-$600 in the current crappy market. Asked the counter guy if he'd consider a trade instead, because of something I saw on the wall. He said he had something interesting that was marked at $699, and pulled the one I was looking at (among several others). I asked what kind of deal he'd make, and he offered to trade even up. Done.
I'm now the owner of a Remington Model Six .30/06 with a Redfield Lo-Pro 3-9 in see-thru mounts; a genuine Amish Machine Gun. It's in really excellent condition, but my guess is that the stock was shortened just a bit for the White Line pad on the back as the lop is right at 13", actually a good length for a cold weather rifle. The scope will have to go eventually, but it looks almost perfect, widefield ocular and objective and all. For now, I've ordered a new base for some Leupold PRWs I have. I'll also have to pull the pad and make sure the end-grain is sealed so the RKW bowling-pin finish doesn't flake from moisture.
Always wanted one of these, especially the Model Six with the cartridge head embedded in the receiver like the 141s. Average beater 760s and 7600s usually go for $350-$450 with no scope, often missing sight parts and plastic stocks or banged up walnut with impressed checkering. The checkering on this one is cut, and in pretty good condition. I just sold my only 06 and had a bunch of handloads and Prvi Grom ammo on hand, so I'm all set. The action is slicker than snot on a doorknob and the trigger's not half bad.
Okay, question: There's a plastic dust cover over the bolt, that seems to float inside the receiver. Midway sells spares for about $7. Should I consider that a "consumeable" and keep one or two on hand? Other than keeping the dirt out, is there any reason to fret if I lose it and want to hunt or just shoot? Can't imagine it's a vital part, considering it feels like it's made from recycled milk jugs.
Thanks. That shop seems to deal mainly in tacticool stuff, with only a few odd "sporting" pieces on hand, so I think they were as happy to get rid of it as I was to get it. Win-win! The guy did know that the Sixes weren't too common.
They also had the only 1905 Ross I've ever seen in all my days of gunshop trolling. Now that one was a real beater; more like a tractor gun than a truck gun, if you get my drift.
Pappy dont' sweat the plastic bolt cover. Of all the 760/7600's I have/had only had one come off. Easy fix. If it comes off don't worry about it. Just keep choot'n it.
So I finally got to pick up the rifle today. I bought it from a guy on a local NJ hunting site and turns out he's on 24 hour also as Sako76. It was a pleasure to meet him and great guy to deal with, gun was exactly as described and he didn't even want me to take the gun until he was convinced I was totally pleased !!!!!
Remington 760 pump in .35 Remington, I've been looking for a pristine one for quite some time, and this one is indeed as pristine as they come.
Although it can't be proven, gun appears unfired, not a scratch or mark on it that I can see. It appears to be around 1979 vintage, I'll find out for sure when I call Remington.
So now I have the gun, Weaver Pivot base and rings for it and I need a period correct scope. I'm looking for either an El Paso Weaver K2.5 with post and crosshair or a Denver Redfield around the same power with post and crosshair. I do have a very pristine El Paso Weaver V4.5 with duplex recticle if anyone wants to work out a trade, or if anyone has one for sale, I'll outright buy it, feel free to shoot me a PM.
Gun came with a box of ammo and I have 3 other boxes so I'm good there, now if I can just find the right scope, maybe I can go out and kill a deer in the Catskills with an old school woods deer rifle.
EDIT-------- I called Remington, the rifle was manufactured June 1979 and went to an outdoor store in Harrisburg Pa. Sako76 picked it up on consignment at Cabela's in Pa. I'd bet that the owner passed on and the family sold his firearms and that's how it wound up on consignment in Cabela's, just an educated guess on my part.
Wink--I bought it off the used gun rack, they must of just put it out, those guns gets handled roughly. I thought it was manufactured later than '79, I'm glad it went to a good home. I was bought up on a Browning Light 12 and a Browning BAR in 308, I can't shoot a pump, that's why I sold it! good luck with it!
The one I got's my first, but even way back when, they had a reputation for being more accurate than one would expect. On mine, there's no contact between the forend and barrel at all, so it's essentially free-floating. No rattles, either.
Remounted the scope in Burris Signature rings on a Leupold one-piece base yesterday. Looks 1000% better and comes up right to my eye, no chin-weld. The scope is very long, so no eye-relief problems either.
Next week it goes to the range.
Went back to the shop where I got it yesterday to pick up a transfer, and the AR I traded was still there, but this puppy's going hunting soon.
Pappy dont' sweat the plastic bolt cover. Of all the 760/7600's I have/had only had one come off. Easy fix. If it comes off don't worry about it. Just keep choot'n it.
YEP ! I've had 760s & M Sixes for years and so far none have come off for me.
I have a 760 30-06 that definitely benefits from using a small base die. If I use a standard FL die I have to chamber all the cartridges once because the first time the action is hard to open once the bolt locks closed. After the first chambering they cycle fine. With the small base die the problem never occurs.
I have owned as many as five at a time, and solved a couple-three more for friends. The worst I have seen one shoot is 1 1/2-2 inches and at that, I never put much time into solving that one. Never hat to mess with the rifle itself other than one .243 that had the crap shot out of it and was never cleaned once near as I could tell. I rebarrelled it and it shot great from the get-go.
Ok, question for you pump guys. I have a nice 141 in .30 Rem. It looks just like the pics some of you are posting as 14's. I before thought that the 14's were chambered in revolver rounds like .38/40 and .44/40. So if the 14's were chambered in rifle rounds like .30 and .35 Rem. Why a different model #?
Thank You tomk. That explains things nicely! I'll have to dig my 141 out from the back of my safe and see when she was born. I see enough to know its older than I realized.
I have a 760 30-06 that definitely benefits from using a small base die. If I use a standard FL die I have to chamber all the cartridges once because the first time the action is hard to open once the bolt locks closed. After the first chambering they cycle fine. With the small base die the problem never occurs.
Evening Mr. Dave:
I don't doubt you at all. It simply shows us there are no hard and fast rules.
Maybe there's a diff in the dies ?
Maybe there's a diff in the chambers ?
I had a Savage 99 in 243 and no matter how I adjusted the dies, the 'bolt' was very difficult to completely close. Surely IMO, that particular rifle was an exception.
Jerry, IIRC two different FL dies have been used over the years with the same problem. I've adjusted the sizing die to just touching the shell holder, a little cam over with the ram full stroke, and partial FL resizing. All three ways had the same results. I always figured the rifle has a snug chamber. It happens.
I have a remington 7600 270 pump that I had problems with last season as it wouldn't pump. From replies I found on this site and others I was able to disassemble the gun and found it was the o-ring. I went to Ace hardware and picked up a 3/4 x 5/8 x 3/64 o-ring that fit the barrel but I had a hard time getting the gun back together again. Finally nudged it back together and it pumped ok but a little stubborn. Just wondering if anyone has ever discovered the true size for this part. I have seen these mentioned 5/8 x 1/2 x 1/16 and 11/16 x 9/16 x 1/16 along with the one I used. It would seem that 3/64 being smaller than 1/16 would be better but it looks like people have used 1/16. I haven't yet brought the 270 out to site it in and test the pumping action but thought I would ask and maybe buy the others in case. The cheap price at ace or homedepot vs the ones on ebay or midway makes it a no brainer but would like to know the true size in case it happens again. Thanks
Took my sons 760 Remington pump out about 3 weeks ago. It,s a 257 Roberts. Chronographed loads with it and a Model 70 Winchester in 257 Roberts. The 22" barrel gave about 75 fps less than the 24" model 70 barrel. The 760 Remington liked the RL26 loads with 115gr Noslers best.
I have a remington 7600 270 pump that I had problems with last season as it wouldn't pump. From replies I found on this site and others I was able to disassemble the gun and found it was the o-ring. I went to Ace hardware and picked up a 3/4 x 5/8 x 3/64 o-ring that fit the barrel but I had a hard time getting the gun back together again. Finally nudged it back together and it pumped ok but a little stubborn. Just wondering if anyone has ever discovered the true size for this part. I have seen these mentioned 5/8 x 1/2 x 1/16 and 11/16 x 9/16 x 1/16 along with the one I used. It would seem that 3/64 being smaller than 1/16 would be better but it looks like people have used 1/16. I haven't yet brought the 270 out to site it in and test the pumping action but thought I would ask and maybe buy the others in case. The cheap price at ace or homedepot vs the ones on ebay or midway makes it a no brainer but would like to know the true size in case it happens again. Thanks
I was at Cabela's in Delaware yesterday, picking up a pair of rifles. I noticed on the used gun rack a pretty nice Remington 760, about late 60's, early 70's vintage. Not totally pristine, but pretty nice, didn't look used much, a little bubbling of the finish on the plastic end piece of the pistol grip. Not scratched up at all, just a little handling usage it appeared. 22 inch barrel, in .243 Winchester, they were asking $599.
I'm not affiliated in any way, just thought I would post it in case anyone was interested.
Anybody tried the Timney 870 trigger kit in there 760/7600? Worth the $?
Not in my opinion. There is a gunsmith in PA named Chad Killensmith that specializes in Remington pump and semi auto rifle & shotgun triggers. He does a fantastic trigger job and has less than a 2 week turnaround. He polishes all surfaces, sets a 760/7600 trigger down to 2.5 lbs, and installs an over travel screw in the trigger guard for $50 + $8 shipping.
Anybody tried the Timney 870 trigger kit in there 760/7600? Worth the $?
Not in my opinion. There is a gunsmith in PA named Chad Killensmith that specializes in Remington pump and semi auto rifle & shotgun triggers. He does a fantastic trigger job and has less than a 2 week turnaround. He polishes all surfaces, sets a 760/7600 trigger down to 2.5 lbs, and installs an over travel screw in the trigger guard for $50 + $8 shipping.
He's done 2 of my 7600's & 1 760.
Thanks for the info, can you send him just the trigger unit?
Those with a 35 Whelen having any accuracy issues? Also, any suggestions for a barrel mounted sling attachment? The Uncle Mikes are too small to grip properly and simply slide up the barrel. Finally, can you refer to a top notch guy smith who specializes in pumps?
Those with a 35 Whelen having any accuracy issues? Also, any suggestions for a barrel mounted sling attachment? The Uncle Mikes are too small to grip properly and simply slide up the barrel. Finally, can you refer to a top notch guy smith who specializes in pumps?
I'm surprised at this, yet glad to hear it before I order. I've had the Uncle Mikes barrel band on my 760 Carbine in 30-06 and it's never moved, but I purchased it around 1980.
I was about to order one for my new to me 760 pump in .35 Remington, sounds like I have to rethink it. Thanks for the heads up.
Anybody tried the Timney 870 trigger kit in there 760/7600? Worth the $?
Not in my opinion. There is a gunsmith in PA named Chad Killensmith that specializes in Remington pump and semi auto rifle & shotgun triggers. He does a fantastic trigger job and has less than a 2 week turnaround. He polishes all surfaces, sets a 760/7600 trigger down to 2.5 lbs, and installs an over travel screw in the trigger guard for $50 + $8 shipping.
He's done 2 of my 7600's & 1 760.
Thanks for the info, can you send him just the trigger unit?
I have multiple Rem pump rifles and I have used U M's barrel band on all of them w/o issue. Obviously there can be 'something' out of the norm but I wouldn't hesitate to get another.
I put a barrel band(Uncle Mikes) on my 760 30-06 carbine in 1980, used green Loctite and it has never moved.
The Uncle Mikes swivel set with barrel band from Midsouth is only $11 & change, I figure I'll order it for my 760 .35 Remington and see how it fits, I have nothing to lose for 11 dollars.
I think my issue is the 35 Whelen barrel diameter was too great for the UM unit to property tighten down. It simply slid further up the barrel to the point where a couple of my slings weren’t long enough.
I think my issue is the 35 Whelen barrel diameter was too great for the UM unit to property tighten down. It simply slid further up the barrel to the point where a couple of my slings weren’t long enough.
There is one on mine, but you’ll have to ask Whelenut how he got it on there.
I think my issue is the 35 Whelen barrel diameter was too great for the UM unit to property tighten down. It simply slid further up the barrel to the point where a couple of my slings weren’t long enough.
The solid band in the standard U/M set for the 7600 is indeed too small for the .35 cal (Rem. or Whelen) barrels. A split band for a "magnum" contour works fine. Don't remember which set I used off the top of my head.
I think my issue is the 35 Whelen barrel diameter was too great for the UM unit to property tighten down. It simply slid further up the barrel to the point where a couple of my slings weren’t long enough.
There is one on mine, but you’ll have to ask Whelenut how he got it on there.
As I recall, on a 35R or W, the trick is to start tightening the screw on the band with the band closer to the muzzle until it catches, then slide it down and do the final tightening. It's been a while since I've done this on a 35. It's a PITA, but they do work on a 35 bbl.
Whelen Nut is breaking out of his comfort zone. Should ship in the next week or two.
Oh my! Lol
Yup, I know...in 6.5 CM, too! Was hoping to have it for this year's Kansas hunt but it appears that isn't going to happen. The 270 will have to suffice again this year. Hope the deer won't be disappointed.
SC, I just needed to have something different and had a .308 gathering dust so it's getting a make-over. I'm not usually one to jump on a band wagon but I have seen a 6.5 CM in action on Kansas deer and was impressed. I doubt Remington will ever offer it in their 7600 as a factory chambering so I thought I'd go for something different for a change. Old guys don't always have to be stuck in a rut with old tyme stuff... of which I have plenty.
Whelen Nut is breaking out of his comfort zone. Should ship in the next week or two.
Oh my! Lol
Yup, I know...in 6.5 CM, too! Was hoping to have it for this year's Kansas hunt but it appears that isn't going to happen. The 270 will have to suffice again this year. Hope the deer won't be disappointed.
SC, I just needed to have something different and had a .308 gathering dust so it's getting a make-over. I'm not usually one to jump on a band wagon but I have seen a 6.5 CM in action on Kansas deer and was impressed. I doubt Remington will ever offer it in their 7600 as a factory chambering so I thought I'd go for something different for a change. Old guys don't always have to be stuck in a rut with old tyme stuff... of which I have plenty.
I had a 7600 in 308 that was a safe queen so I asked Nathan at Hillbilly Rifles to turn it into a 6.5 Creedmoor. It arrived a couple of weeks ago and I have been playing with it. So far it likes the 120gr Barnes TTSX especially well (when seated deeper than recommended) with H4350 and holds MOA out to 400 yds. It wears a Leupold VX2 like all my other 7600's.
WOW ....... That's quite a change from the original form. Not sure if I dig that or not, but then who cares what I think! I'm just too used to the old blued and walnut look.
I got this one back this winter. 760 in 30-06 cut to 20" with a Wiliams FP. Shoots 1" with Hornady 180gr RN with the scope I used for load dev.
I had a 7600 in 308 that was a safe queen so I asked Nathan at Hillbilly Rifles to turn it into a 6.5 Creedmoor. It arrived a couple of weeks ago and I have been playing with it. So far it likes the 120gr Barnes TTSX especially well (when seated deeper than recommended) with H4350 and holds MOA out to 400 yds. It wears a Leupold VX2 like all my other 7600's.
I had a 7600 in 308 that was a safe queen so I asked Nathan at Hillbilly Rifles to turn it into a 6.5 Creedmoor. It arrived a couple of weeks ago and I have been playing with it. So far it likes the 120gr Barnes TTSX especially well (when seated deeper than recommended) with H4350 and holds MOA out to 400 yds. It wears a Leupold VX2 like all my other 7600's.
SC, those later model 760's are very good shooters. I have several. Good score on that one! 20" bbl.Good compromise length. That's what's on my 6.5
I've always been a 'walnut and blue' guy too, but I have a couple of 7600's with the black tupperware stocks and have learned to like them especially in crappy weather. So this was an easy decision for me.
SC, those later model 760's are very good shooters. I have several. Good score on that one! 20" bbl.Good compromise length. That's what's on my 6.5
I've always been a 'walnut and blue' guy too, but I have a couple of 7600's with the black tupperware stocks and have learned to like them especially in crappy weather. So this was an easy decision for me.
You're right. Maybe I need to read that "New Tricks" book myself. A good many of my rifles are in synthetics, so why not the 760 as well?
I had a 7600 in 308 that was a safe queen so I asked Nathan at Hillbilly Rifles to turn it into a 6.5 Creedmoor. It arrived a couple of weeks ago and I have been playing with it. So far it likes the 120gr Barnes TTSX especially well (when seated deeper than recommended) with H4350 and holds MOA out to 400 yds. It wears a Leupold VX2 like all my other 7600's.
Is there a quality gunsmith that can do a re-barreling job on 7600? Have a 30-06 I would like to take to a 6.5 creedmoor.
I like your thinking. You could likely have a 760/7600 re-barreled cheaper than paying the market pricing Remington's "limited" run of 7600's in 7/08 made for Grice in Clearfield,Pa some years back.
Is there a quality gunsmith that can do a re-barreling job on 7600? Have a 30-06 I would like to take to a 6.5 creedmoor.
The gunsmith Whelen Nut had do his 7600 is a remington pump master gunsmith. Nathan at Hillbilly customs. He made my 7600 into a carbine and worked on the trigger and it came out perfect. I live close enough to him that I brought the rifle to him so I got to meet him. Nice guy and he did exactly what I wanted and what he told me he would do. Give him a call. Karl
Check with Nathan Chesney at http://hbrifles.com/ He did my work. He will do as little or as much as you want done. Simple rebarrelling would be not problem.
HOWEVER, your 30/06 is a long action and a 6.5 Ceedmoor is a short action. So that might be a problem.
If you send it to him make sure you ask him to work on the trigger while he has it. He has mine right at 3# a major improvement over the factory setting!
I’ve killed a few with my grandpaw’s 7600 .308 pump and killed an 8 pt with friend’s 7600 .270. My first deer rifle was a 7400 jamamatic .243 and I killed a boatload of deer with it. My uncle had a browning bar safari .270 auto that has killed more deer than about any gun I know of.
[quote=lugnut1981]I’ve killed a few with my grandpaw’s 7600 .308 pump and killed an 8 pt with friend’s 7600 .270. My first deer rifle was a 7400 jamamatic .243 and I killed a boatload of deer with it. My uncle had a browning bar safari .270 auto that has killed more deer than about any gun I know of.[/quot
Had me believing it intill the 270! You can't kill a deer with a 270!!!!!
Shot my buddy's 760 ADL in .35 rem about a week ago. Junk scope. Off the bench (elbows only) I put 3 into same hole at 25 yards. Yeah that aint much.......but I was doing good that day so kinda sorta says the rifle is decent. If I don't buy a Ruger #1 this week, I'll snag the 760.
Remove the fore end. The action tube has 4 holes through it. Clamp the action in a padded vice and put a punch through the holes and twist the action tube off of the screw that holds is. You may need to heat the action tube to break the thread locking agent bond. Pull the action tube out of the action bar assembly and replace the O-ring while you have the rifle apart.
Remove the fore end. The action tube has 4 holes through it. Clamp the action in a padded vice and put a punch through the holes and twist the action tube off of the screw that holds is. You **may** need to heat the action tube to break the thread locking agent bond. Pull the action tube out of the action bar assembly and replace the O-ring while you have the rifle apart.
Mr Dave is correct. May is the operative word. I’ve disassembled several and so far I have NOT had to use heat.
I have the Brownell’s tool for disass. I have used a short 2x4 to jar it loose.
FYI to you pumpers or wannabe pumpers, Cabelas Gun Library in Dundee MI have a nice looking 7600 .308 complete with a Cabelas Instinct 3-9 (Meopta?) scope for $499. It is not on the Gun Library web site. I'd have bought it if I didn't already have many rifles that have yet to be hunted. Have at it!
I have a modest collection of 7600's in various calibers. With proper handloads they will rival bolt actions out to 400 with similar optics, which is a far as I have tested them.
My cousin who is 91 turned his 99 .284 over to a younger son and is shooting a pump .308 for Pa. whitetails... I love pump shotguns, and if I still did some hunting in Pa. I would have a nice pump rifle.. But those days are over.. At least for now..
I have a modest collection of 7600's in various calibers. With proper handloads they will rival bolt actions out to 400 with similar optics, which is a far as I have tested them.
WN
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6mm Rem, 270 Win, 30-06 I have & have had shoot as well as my b a and that's not an exaggeration. I have no doubt a 308 would as well. There are other - older - calibers (cartridges) I have no experience with in a pump.
My cousin who is 91 turned his 99 .284 over to a younger son and is shooting a pump .308 for Pa. whitetails... I love pump shotguns, and if I still did some hunting in Pa. I would have a nice pump rifle.. But those days are over.. At least for now..
I loved the Rem 870 a long time before I got serious about the 760/Six Remingtons. NO regrets (regerts) lol
I’ve never owned a pump rifle. How accurate are they?
The last time I put my 760 in 30-06 on paper I was testing 130 grain TTSXs to see where the middle of the charge weight it liked was. I was using Varget and between 51.5 and 53,5 grains it held 9 shots all inside an inch with a little to spare.at 113 yards. I have had as many as half a dozen in the safe at one time and the worst of them was inch and a half. The best I had was a .243 that would put 95 grain Barnes XLCs into less than 1/2 inch. I only tried one load with the worst one , and I expect that probably I could have found something that would do better.
They have a good lock up of the bolt. I would have to believe that because of the way it is designed that some of them are going to be bad, maybe real bad, but I have never seen a bad one. With Remington's manufacturing getting sloppier lately I would expect that they get worse because the barrel, head spacing and bolt lock up being just a little off would affect them quite a bit
For a rifle that you can change the barrel on without an action wrench or barrel vise and do it yourself that's pretty remarkable. As long as a barrel has been head spaced on the action you could swap barrels (calibers) fairly easily and quickly without affecting accuracy. I bought a .243 that had never been cleaned from the day it left the factory. I had that barrel off half a dozen times and finally replaced it for a very modest cost, a couple hundred dollars I think.
I've had pumps in 270,7mm-08, and 30-06. If I ever get another it will be because I bumped into a 35 Whelen which I consider the Holy Grail of Pump rifles.
I have a modest collection of 7600's in various calibers. With proper handloads they will rival bolt actions out to 400 with similar optics, which is a far as I have tested them.
WN
I've always owned 760s, mostly cuz they are older and can be had for less $$. Are there any big differences between the later 760 and 7600 that would make one avoid one or the other?
I've always owned 760s, mostly cuz they are older and can be had for less $$. Are there any big differences between the later 760 and 7600 that would make one avoid one or the other?
Cub, not to be smart - that ? was asked and answered earlier in this same thread by more than just myself - somewhere between P 1 - 20 or so.
To be concise.
The older the 760 the GREATER drop at heel and toe so recoil is magnified.
Obviously all the 760s were popular and successful hunting rifles but the newer ones have not only cosmetic but mechanical changes that I and others like.
The bottom line is - IMO - if you like any 760 - 7600 - Six go for it. My 35 Whelen was made from a 760. My 'smith cut the throat to my loaded dummy round. NO PROBLEMS at all.
I've always owned 760s, mostly cuz they are older and can be had for less $$. Are there any big differences between the later 760 and 7600 that would make one avoid one or the other?
By and large, no. There's little thing better/worse in all of them MO. I do not like the spacer out on the end of the magazine in the earliest 760s. I don't like the stocks on the 7600s. I prefer the metal trash shield to the plastic ones.
I had a nice 14 1/2 in 35 rem and sold it to finance a bolt action 25-06. Still kick my own butt for it. Shot my first buck with a 14 and someday when I find the right one that’s all I’ll hunt with again.
Cub, not to be smart - that ? was asked and answered earlier in this same thread by more than just myself - somewhere between P 1 - 20 or so.
To be concise.
The older the 760 the GREATER drop at heel and toe so recoil is magnified.
Obviously all the 760s were popular and successful hunting rifles but the newer ones have not only cosmetic but mechanical changes that I and others like.
The bottom line is - IMO - if you like any 760 - 7600 - Six go for it. My 35 Whelen was made from a 760. My 'smith cut the throat to my loaded dummy round. NO PROBLEMS at all.
Jerry
Hey Jerry .... My bad on missing that earlier information.
Thanks for the recap. You confirmed what I thought I already knew.
I've had pumps in 270,7mm-08, and 30-06. If I ever get another it will be because I bumped into a 35 Whelen which I consider the Holy Grail of Pump rifles.
I am going to check out a 760 Carbine in 308 in the morning. I had one a few years back and sold it shortly before this thread was started and I have kinda regretted it after following this thread over the years.
First I’m not much of a Carbine guy...However IMO the 308 W is probably the BEST cartridge for a carbine. I had a Ruger 77 OG ( Original Gangster red pad) Ultra Light w/a 20” bll. Was a VERY good rifle and in handloads — I never bought or chronod factory ammo — The 150s STILL were getting 2900 FPS & accurate.
If you liked the one U had, might be a good OP to get another.
Good Luck
ps: the 308’s smaller powder capacity does. NOT hurt the velocity - in appropriate powders. Don’t know if U handloads or not, The slower burning powders still produce the best velocity.
Being a Savage guy, I always thought the 760 chambered in 300 Savage would make a nice deer gun. I used to see them up here, well used, for about $250.00. That was a while back, but I'd guess even the beaters are more expensive now.
Gophergunner beat me to it, but an older 760 in a .300 Savage would be preferable to a .308 imo. One of our guys has one and shot down three of the four deer that we got last season. Ammo selection isn't as good as a .308, but a 150 grain soft point should do anything in a deer woods that a .308 would do and recoil less. Back when I was looking for a M99 for the kid, I thought that I wanted a .308 only I found a M99F in .300 Savage instead and in retrospect I like it more than the .308 that I had.
I had one in a 760 in a .257 Roberts and that was a neat little rifle and the first time I shot it, I wondered where the recoil went? Mine shot well but it rattled in the slide, so it went on the used rack. We had a guy with a 760 in deer camp that had an '06 and it kicked more than he liked. I suppose that a .308 would be better, but not much. There was a thread running a while back about what cartridge the guys thought recoiled more than they expected and surprisingly the .308 got mentioned a whole lot of times.
I am going to check out a 760 Carbine in 308 in the morning. I had one a few years back and sold it shortly before this thread was started and I have kinda regretted it after following this thread over the years.
Holy phug I am glad I went and looked at this 760, I nearly broke my fingers trying to get my wallet out so fast. I do not think it has been shot much or seen field use. The old guy loved his WD40 though, could barely get the mag out. I will post some pics tomorrow.
I had one in a 760 in a .257 Roberts and that was a neat little rifle and the first time I shot it, I wondered where the recoil went? Mine shot well but it rattled in the slide, so it went on the used rack. We had a guy with a 760 in deer camp that had an '06 and it kicked more than he liked. I suppose that a .308 would be better, but not much. There was a thread running a while back about what cartridge the guys thought recoiled more than they expected and surprisingly the .308 got mentioned a whole lot of times.
Actually, all the .308’s in pumps I’ve had seemed to recoil more than my 06’s. Its a snappier recoil o don’t care for in that gun. Strange but that’s how it went for me. They seem to be fine out of a bolt.
Holy phug I am glad I went and looked at this 760, I nearly broke my fingers trying to get my wallet out so fast. I do not think it has been shot much or seen field use. The old guy loved his WD40 though, could barely get the mag out. I will post some pics tomorrow.
I had one in a 760 in a .257 Roberts and that was a neat little rifle and the first time I shot it, I wondered where the recoil went? Mine shot well but it rattled in the slide, so it went on the used rack. We had a guy with a 760 in deer camp that had an '06 and it kicked more than he liked. I suppose that a .308 would be better, but not much. There was a thread running a while back about what cartridge the guys thought recoiled more than they expected and surprisingly the .308 got mentioned a whole lot of times.
Grice's Gun Shop in Clearfield, Pa. had a special run of those in the Bob. Had to be at least 25 years ago, and I'm still kicking my self for not buying one. Whenever I hear of one, I wonder if it's from that run, as I believe the Bob wasn't a common chambering in that rifle.
Well just crap, thanks guys!!!!!!!! As someone that has lived all my life in South Alabama seeing pump action rifles is kinda few and far between, not that you never run across them.. Well I just happened to run up on this thread a couple weeks ago and thought it would be neat to have a 760 to fix up as a hog gun, fast forward to this past Thursday and a friend of mine called and advised that one of our local gun shops had a nice 760 in that a man from PA had brought in after he moved down to Gulf Shores... So, I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 model 760 in 308 and it appears to be in about 90% condition, complete with Iron Sighter see through mounts and a Pre Monarch Japan Nikon 3-9x40 and 4 mags ... Didn't really have the cash for it but when he said he would take $250, it came home with me .... I'm happy
Well just crap, thanks guys!!!!!!!! As someone that has lived all my life in South Alabama seeing pump action rifles is kinda few and far between, not that you never run across them.. Well I just happened to run up on this thread a couple weeks ago and thought it would be neat to have a 760 to fix up as a hog gun, fast forward to this past Thursday and a friend of mine called and advised that one of our local gun shops had a nice 760 in that a man from PA had brought in after he moved down to Gulf Shores... So, I'm now the proud owner of a 1966 model 760 in 308 and it appears to be in about 90% condition, complete with Iron Sighter see through mounts and a Pre Monarch Japan Nikon 3-9x40 and 4 mags ... Didn't really have the cash for it but when he said he would take $250, it came home with me .... I'm happy
Deputy...were you wearing a black ski mask? Heck of a deal!
I swore off 760/7600s and sold the two I had last year. Then my son picked up a 760 in 35 Remington which was made in 1954. I have to admit it made me start looking again, as does this thread.
I’m still looking for someone who bought one this year, BTW. I’m going to have to order one without seeing it. Supposedly, Rem went back to the low comb stock a couple years ago, but I haven’t seen one or gotten a report as to quality and finish. The pic on the Rem site makes it look like the finish on the receiver and barrel do not match. Someone tried to tell me it’s true, but I haven’t confirmed it yet. Haven’t confirmed the low comb stock either. Every place I call doesn’t have one in stock, only older models.
Just ordered me one of them there 7600 Carbines for $687.30 shipped. I purchased a Williams peep about three years ago so this plan has been in the works for a while. I also ordered hex head screw plugs for the forward receiver holes; got those from Brownells.
I’m still looking for someone who bought one this year, BTW. I’m going to have to order one without seeing it. Supposedly, Rem went back to the low comb stock a couple years ago, but I haven’t seen one or gotten a report as to quality and finish. The pic on the Rem site makes it look like the finish on the receiver and barrel do not match. Someone tried to tell me it’s true, but I haven’t confirmed it yet. Haven’t confirmed the low comb stock either. Every place I call doesn’t have one in stock, only older models.
Just ordered me one of them there 7600 Carbines for $687.30 shipped. I purchased a Williams peep about three years ago so this plan has been in the works for a while. I also ordered hex head screw plugs for the forward receiver holes; got those from Brownells.
I’m still looking for someone who bought one this year, BTW. I’m going to have to order one without seeing it. Supposedly, Rem went back to the low comb stock a couple years ago, but I haven’t seen one or gotten a report as to quality and finish. The pic on the Rem site makes it look like the finish on the receiver and barrel do not match. Someone tried to tell me it’s true, but I haven’t confirmed it yet. Haven’t confirmed the low comb stock either. Every place I call doesn’t have one in stock, only older models.
Why do you want a new one?
Since late 2016 or so, Rem started making them with a low comb stock again. This will be a peep gun for MI, MN and WI still-hunting and tracking. I already have a scoped 750 and numerous bolt guns.
Just ordered me one of them there 7600 Carbines for $687.30 shipped. I purchased a Williams peep about three years ago so this plan has been in the works for a while. I also ordered hex head screw plugs for the forward receiver holes; got those from Brownells.
I have used both the Williams WGRS and the FP on 760/7600s. The FP is a better sight by far. Sturdier construction and allows click adjustment.
I’m still looking for someone who bought one this year, BTW. I’m going to have to order one without seeing it. Supposedly, Rem went back to the low comb stock a couple years ago, but I haven’t seen one or gotten a report as to quality and finish. The pic on the Rem site makes it look like the finish on the receiver and barrel do not match. Someone tried to tell me it’s true, but I haven’t confirmed it yet. Haven’t confirmed the low comb stock either. Every place I call doesn’t have one in stock, only older models.
I haven’t seen one yet this year. But my LGS guy and I are both 760/7600 fans and he has seen one. He said not only was the quality nice, but the price was too. IIRC, he said it was under $700 for a walnut stock 30-06 he ordered for a lady.
I bought a 35 rem some years ago to convert to 358. The original was sweet. The final product was a bag of headaches. Wish I had never had it converted
My daughter and I both filled or buck tags with my dads 270. 1954 model. I put a scope on itf for the first time ever for my daughter. I was surprised by 2 shots touching at 200 yards a sub 2 inch group 3 shots at 300. Ed k
Used an early 60's 760 carbine in 06 to take a 6-point whitetail this year. Shot it a lot prior to the season and was impressed with it's accuracy, had no idea they could shoot that well. Nice woods gun. like it. Jay
I bought a Remington 760 pump in 30-06 this evening. Son called me from his girlfriends house and said he saw on facebook a 760 at a local gun shop real clean and cheap. I looked and then called them, bought it over the phone. Went to pick it up but NICS check was backed up so I'll get it tomorrow and put up some pics.
I don't know the age, but pre 1970 for sure judging from the rear sight and forend, and metal butttplate. Unmolested, never scoped, no wear on the slide bar or pump tube. One scratch in the finish on the stock, and slight discoloration in the blueing on the receiver and barrel in 2 spots, and I'm sure I can get them out with a good cleaning. Judging from the amount of dust in the muzzle(couldn't see the rifling) I'd venture a guess it hasn't been fired or cleaned in 40 years.
Apparently the guy inherited it, and didn't hunt, and didn't want the gun. Gunshop told him it would be a hard sell because it didn't have a magazine and they set the price accordingly. Seeing I have 3 10 round magazines for it from my other 760 30-06 pump it was a non issue to me. I certainly didn't need it but couldn't pass it up for $250, LMAO.
Incidentally, if anyone has an extra original 4 round magazine for a 30-06 I'd be interested in buying one. Feel free to shoot me a pm with a price.
Edit: The gun looks identical to Hookeyes gun in his post with his buck 8 posts above mine.
Picked the gun up this morning. My $250 760 pump in 30-06, without a magazine. Common caliber, but couldn't refuse it at that price. Barrel code is "BMB" if anyone can age it, I'm thinking early 60's. (EDIT Found on barrel code table on Remington Society, appears to have been manufactured Jan. 1965.)
Judging from the muzzle, I'd say it hasn't been shot or cleaned in quite a while. Needs a good cleaning and going over.
No wear on the slide bars or pump tube, damn few rounds thru it for sure. I've picked up several guns this way in north Jersey, over the years. Seems guys get tired of hunting deer with a shotgun in Jersey(centerfire rifles not permitted) and have friends that go upstate New York, to the Catskills. So they buy a rifle, sight in in and hunt the Catskills for a year or 2, don't see a deer, complain about the price of the license and stop going. Then the gun either goes up for sale used, or sits in a closet till the person dies and then is sold. I'll take it !!!!!
Yes, 1965, I have one in .308 with the same style wood and sights. Remington confirmed it as 1965. Congratulations on your find!
Thanks, I'm cleaning it now, actually outside of dust in the barrel, it's not bad, it hasn't seen hardly any use, just dirty, mostly on the outside metal and wood, prolly from sitting in a closet.
I have a set of Weaver pivot mounts and an El Paso Weaver V4.5 variable I'm going to put on it. I was originally going to put that scope on my 760 in .35 Remington, but I really want an El paso Weaver K2.5 with post and crosshair for that gun, just can't find one, but this gun sealed the deal on the V4.5 and I'll keep looking for a clean K2.5 for the 35 Remington.
Nice score! I paid 500 for my beater in.35 rem (bare rifle), but it does have the .35 rem marked mag.
Thanks. I have a .35 also, 1979 vintage and I believe unfired, it also has the .35 Rem marked mag. I'm told the 35 Remington 760's will only feed shells with the magazine marked for the .35 Rem.
Basically complete, my 1965 vintage 760 pump. I just have to get a barrel band/swivel stud and magazine and I think I have a line on a magazine. I do have a 10 rounder, but it hangs to far down the bottom of the receiver and will make for a miserable carry.
Gave it a thorough cleaning, trigger group and pins were sticky from cosmoline and not dirty. Barrel wasn't bad either, no copper, more dust than powder residue, I doubt the gun had much more than 10 rounds through it. It was actually dirtier on the outside than the inside from storage and cleaned up nicely.
I mounted a period correct El Paso Weaver V4.5 1.5X4.5 variable on it in the long extinct swing over Weaver Pivot Mounts. Those mounts are superb for the low comb stocks on the 760/742 series of guns. The scope sits low, good cheek weld to stock and swing it aside for a good cheek weld with the irons. And the gun writers back in the day who bashed these mounts claiming they wouldn't hold zero if swung back and forth obviously never tried them to see it their statements were true.
I'm looking for an original 4 round long magazine, it's a 30-06. I put an add up in the classifieds, someone answered me saying they have one and possibly the post and crosshair scope I'm looking for.
I mounted a period correct El Paso Weaver V4.5 1.5X4.5 variable on it in the long extinct swing over Weaver Pivot Mounts. Those mounts are superb for the low comb stocks on the 760/742 series of guns. The scope sits low, good cheek weld to stock and swing it aside for a good cheek weld with the irons. And the gun writers back in the day who bashed these mounts claiming they wouldn't hold zero if swung back and forth obviously never tried them to see it their statements were true.
wink man: Totally agree with you. I have those old Weaver Pivot mounts on three of my 760/7600's. They are great for bear hunting, especially when you have to trail one into a swamp,that isn't DRT and laying at the bait after the shot.
I've checked the zero after repeatedly flipping the scope off and back on while at the range. Never had a problem on any of my rifles. Some of the old gun geeks AND hunters liked to bash stuff they never actually tried. Especially pump rifles. I wouldn't use them if they didn't do the job year after year.
Some of the old gun geeks AND hunters liked to bash stuff they never actually tried. Especially pump rifles. I wouldn't use them if they didn't do the job year after year.
Your right about the "especially pump rifles" part as well.
Here in Canada, the pump is quite popular in pockets. Ontario and Sask and to a lesser extent here in the east it sees a lot of use. In the rest of the country, hunters snub their nose at this style rifle usually never even tried one. OTOH they don't ever seem to recommend a bolt action shotgun over the 870.
Well look what came to my house priority mail yesterday. A fixed 4 power genuine Denver Redfield with a post and crosshair recticle from back in the 70's I'd say. Scope looks brand new not a scratch or mark on it. Thanks Dtalbot. I know of a 760 pump rifle in .35 Remington that this scope will be going on, held in place by my last set of Weaver Pivot Mounts.
Nice score! I paid 500 for my beater in.35 rem (bare rifle), but it does have the .35 rem marked mag.
Thanks. I have a .35 also, 1979 vintage and I believe unfired, it also has the .35 Rem marked mag. I'm told the 35 Remington 760's will only feed shells with the magazine marked for the .35 Rem.
Yup, I heard that too.
Funny, my .243 win marked mag runs .35 rem cartridges just fine. The follower's bump at the front is different, but it runs em no prob.
Nice to get a spare mag for 20 bucks LOL It doesn't say "35 rem" on it and I'm cool with that (since I have a mag that does).
Yup, I heard that too. Funny, my .243 win marked mag runs .35 rem cartridges just fine. The follower's bump at the front is different, but it runs em no prob.
Good to know. I've heard it, but never put it to the test, thanks.
Yup, I heard that too. Funny, my .243 win marked mag runs .35 rem cartridges just fine. The follower's bump at the front is different, but it runs em no prob.
Good to know. I've heard it, but never put it to the test, thanks.
You don't need a 35 Rem mag to shoot 35 Rem rounds. I didn't have one and they run fine in a short action mag of any flavor.
Yup, I heard that too. Funny, my .243 win marked mag runs .35 rem cartridges just fine. The follower's bump at the front is different, but it runs em no prob.
Good to know. I've heard it, but never put it to the test, thanks.
You don't need a 35 Rem mag to shoot 35 Rem rounds. I didn't have one and they run fine in a short action mag of any flavor.
Tzone is correct. Just for grins I just tried one of the new short action mags with the plastic bottom that I use in my 6.5CM, it worked just fine in my 35Rem.
Perhaps the rumor about using only ones marked "35Rem" got started because someone probably tried one for the long action calibers and it didn't work.The long action mags will fit in the short action caliber rifles BUT the shorter caliber mag has a block at the rear end to shorten its interior mag length. Just a WAG!
Well there is a new 760 pump rifle on its way home to me. My son found it at a local gun shop and I had him buy it for me after he sent me a few pics.
A 1970's something BDL Deluxe with Basket Weave checkering. It's a 270 and very very clean, doesn't look like it's seen much use.
The standard (I'm from NJ going to hunt New York) see thru mounts and a cheap ass Bushnell Sportview scope. Original butt plate is gone, replaced by an undersized recoil pad, but the stock hasn't been cut, so I'll be looking for an original butt plate/white line spacer.
Another $250 Remington 760 pumpgun, I'll take it LMAO !!!!!
I had a 760 in .270 Win. many years ago. Shot my first deer, moose and first and only black bear with it. Used it for a number of years with good success before moving on to try other types of guns. That one probably goes back close to 60 years. In early 1970's I bought a .223 in a 760. In those days we still had both ground hogs and jack rabbits (European hares) around here in good numbers. This one got used extensively in both summer and winter. A local friend used to make home made bullets for the .224 calibres and I shot them almost exclusively. Even with those bullets and my then limited shooting skills they would shoot groups of an inch or less. This thread leads to a lot of nostalgia. I don't need another gun and so far (fortunately?) I haven't seen a pump Remington show up in any of the local gun shops.
Check out EBAY.COM for a .30-06 magazine FOR CHEAP. = I've recently bought two extra "factory" mags there. = One for 8.oo plus S&H & the other for 10.oo, plus 3.99 postage.
BEST WISHES on hunting with your NICE rifle, too. - Wishing I had seen it first.
I wish I could find a $250 760 or 7600. When I see them here, they are beat to crap and start at $500. A local shop has a synthetic 7600 in 270 for the asking price of $600. Someone will buy it.
Son just got in with it, NICS check was backed up. Just as I got it, it's a left handed stock, which doesn't matter much and it will need a few changes. The recoil pad is loose, and needs to go, I need to find the correct butt plate and white line spacer. Fortunately, the stock wasn't cut and the recoil pad was just buggered on to the end of the stock.
The see thru mounts need to go, so does the scope, unfortunately I have no more of the old weaver pivot mounts left so I'll put on a Weaver #62 base(unless someone has a Weaver #162 pivot base and rings they want to sell me) and not sure what scope yet.
BDL deluxe with the "basket weave" checkering and "RKW bowling pin finish". According to the date code it was manufactured February of 1971 which would correlate with the rear iron sight having the mechanical elevator, later in 1971 they went to the sliding ramp rear sight to the best of my knowledge. Doesn't look hardly used, no wear on the slide bars and the inside of the action is as clean as can be. Judging from the dust under the forearm this is probably another one that sat in a closet for more than 20 years and was quickly wiped down to sell.
Not that I needed another gun, but I'll take them like this all day long for $250
Fwiw, the last 4 Model 760 rifles that I've bought were 150.oo or less out of estate sales. = WATCH the garage & estate ads "like a hawk" & I predict that you'll find a bargain or 2. (ALL 4 rifles needed refinishing but now LOOK & shoot nice.)
A "want to buy" ad on your local buy/sell/trade websites is worth doing, too. (I collect the 760 rifles & have 8 of them currently, in various calibers.)
Son just got in with it, NICS check was backed up. Just as I got it, it's a left handed stock, which doesn't matter much and it will need a few changes. The recoil pad is loose, and needs to go, I need to find the correct butt plate and white line spacer. Fortunately, the stock wasn't cut and the recoil pad was just buggered on to the end of the stock.
The see thru mounts need to go, so does the scope, unfortunately I have no more of the old weaver pivot mounts left so I'll put on a Weaver #62 base(unless someone has a Weaver #162 pivot base and rings they want to sell me) and not sure what scope yet.
BDL deluxe with the "basket weave" checkering and "RKW bowling pin finish". According to the date code it was manufactured February of 1971 which would correlate with the rear iron sight having the mechanical elevator, later in 1971 they went to the sliding ramp rear sight to the best of my knowledge. Doesn't look hardly used, no wear on the slide bars and the inside of the action is as clean as can be. Judging from the dust under the forearm this is probably another one that sat in a closet for more than 20 years and was quickly wiped down to sell.
Not that I needed another gun, but I'll take them like this all day long for $250
Yours has the receiver milled like mine. Not quite sure what the significance of it is, or why. Did you notice the step, on top, above the trigger? Not many are machined like that, I check every one i see.
you might want to go with the talley lightweights on that. i switched all my 760/7600's over to them. they are small and solid as hell. you probably know that the safety can be reversed if desired. the stepped receiver was on the BDL deluxes.
that exact style of gun was the most popular gun around here in the 70's. everybody had them, most in '06 but some in 270and the occasional 308 and almost all had that scope/mount combo. all you need is a porn star mustache, leisure suit, platform shoes and a 1976 monte carlo and you'd be set.
$250 for that is a hell of a good price. i'll be willing to bet it shoots 130g corelokts like laser beams.
Yours has the receiver milled like mine. Not quite sure what the significance of it is, or why. Did you notice the step, on top, above the trigger? Not many are machined like that, I check every one i see.
Yes I did notice the "step". This is my 4th 760, and the first I've seen like that, I truly have no idea why. I was thinking of calling Remington customer service in North Carolina, but I'll probably just get a girl on the phone that doesn't know the first thing about a rifle.
Qtip from here(God rest his soul) and his cousin live up by Cooperstown NY, about a half hour from the Remington plant in Ilion NY where there are still some very knowledgeable people still working for Remington. I should be going up to see his cousin late spring/early summer and we're going to make a trip to the Remington plant in Ilion. If we do, I intend to ask and I'll PM you if a get an answer.
The stepped receivers were only cataloged on the higher grade 760s ad 742s with the basket-weave style checkering and raised cheek-piece monte carlo style stocks..
They are my favorite style of 760s as I only shoot scopes and like the raised cheek-piece monte carlo style stocks.
I have seen this style of 760 chambered in 270, 308, and 30-06, with those in 30-06 being by far the more common than any others. Those in 308 seem to be few and far between.
My 270 was assembled in 11/77 and my 30-06s were assembled between 11/69 and 09/74. The 11/69 rifle has the left-hand cheek-piece.
EDIT: Even though the Benoits and Berniers were 760 shooters, I saw a lot more people hunting with 742s in rural ME/NH/VT circa 1967 thru 1977.
I thought the stepped receiver the tell tale of the BDL. No step meant somebody just put BDL wood (basketweave) on a regular.
I bought a worn .35 rem 760 a couple months ago. Shot it before bought it. 3 shots at 25 yards w junky scope, into a .5" hole. Mag was messed up (stamped .35 rem). Got the mag deal fixed, and popped a little 8 pt on the run with it.
Wanted the newer style 760 in .35 rem.........think they look better. But am content with the older version.
Time to resurrect this thread even though deer season is a long way off and because I like pump rifles.
I just finished up this 270 that I bought late in December of last year. Left handed model, Remington 760 pump, 1971 vintage BDL Deluxe in .270. The boogered up recoil pad went and I found an original buttplate on Gunbroker. The Bushnell Sportview 3X9 went too, along with those famous "see thru" mounts these guns are known for. Barrel was dirty with carbon but not much copper, I don't think it was shot much especially in light of the fact that the guy put a poorly fitting recoil pad on it that couldn't even be tightened up, it was under size, so were the screws. Fortunately he didn't cut the stock.
I put a Weaver #62 base on it as I have no more #162 pivot bases and rings. I was looking for a period correct scope when I happened on a 1968 vintage Remington 700 that had a Denver Redfield 2X7 on it and purchased it. At first I thought the scope was no good, as it was blurry, but the gun was a steal even without the scope being functional. Well the 700 was stored for a long time in a closet and the family must have smoked because when I cleaned the nicotene off the objective lens the scope was crystal clear, I lucked out. I had different plans for the 700 with a different scope I had in mind for it anyways. Mounted the Denver Redfield in low rings and it's complete. Should make a nice whitetail rifle with 150 grain roundnoses. Fortunately this gun wasn't used or abused much and was in great condition for it's age. I'm pretty happy with it.
I have a Rem. 7600 in .35 whelen but the deer I have shot with factory 250 grain bullets have not died well. If I handloaded some fast opening Nosler balistic tips it may work better. However I recently got a Savage 99 in .300 sav. and used it to take a bull moose a white-tail doe and two wolves. I like it a lot as my fast handling bush gun. In the mountains or prairie I use a long barreled bolt action.
Very nice rifle. There are a lot of those around here. At one time it seemed that everyone had one. A friend of mine has his brother's 760 carbine in 308. That was the only non 30-06 carbine 760 I ever saw.
I have a Rem. 7600 in .35 whelen but the deer I have shot with factory 250 grain bullets have not died well. If I handloaded some fast opening Nosler balistic tips it may work better. However I recently got a Savage 99 in .300 sav. and used it to take a bull moose a white-tail doe and two wolves. I like it a lot as my fast handling bush gun. In the mountains or prairie I use a long barreled bolt action.
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When I first got a Whelen-- way back when, I thought it was going to be constantly delivering DRT results on Whitetails. Although some were DRT with shoulder shots and a lot of mess some also ran off after rib cage shots. Using lighter bullets, like the 200gr Hornady SP, helped provide better expansion but didn't eliminate the mess unless the velocity was reduced to 35Rem or 358W levels. I have since gone back to smaller calibers (270W & 6.5C) for deer and have been more than pleased with the frequency of DRT results. My 35's are now reserved for bigger or tougher game. I guess bigger probably isn't always better.
I have a Rem. 7600 in .35 whelen but the deer I have shot with factory 250 grain bullets have not died well. If I handloaded some fast opening Nosler balistic tips it may work better. However I recently got a Savage 99 in .300 sav. and used it to take a bull moose a white-tail doe and two wolves. I like it a lot as my fast handling bush gun. In the mountains or prairie I use a long barreled bolt action.
I found that the 220 grain Speer FP would go through whitetail does shot behind the shoulder with what looked like almost no expansion when fired from the 356 WIN, so I changed to the 180 grain Speer FP and got the quicker kills that I was looking for.
When I first got a Whelen-- way back when, I thought it was going to be constantly delivering DRT results on Whitetails. Although some were DRT with shoulder shots and a lot of mess some also ran off after rib cage shots. Using lighter bullets, like the 200gr Hornady SP, helped provide better expansion but didn't eliminate the mess unless the velocity was reduced to 35Rem or 358W levels. I have since gone back to smaller calibers (270W & 6.5C) for deer and have been more than pleased with the frequency of DRT results. My 35's are now reserved for bigger or tougher game. I guess bigger probably isn't always better.
Very similar experience to mine & conclusion.
However I shot the 200 HSP at 2800 + in the ribs. I didn’t have a problem with messes. I liked the rifle & cartridge history. The only reason I didn’t keep mine was, the rumor was DuPont was dropping IMR 4320 —> which they did NOT.
I had my rifle rechambered to 35 W BEFORE Rem adopted the cartridge. I could NOT get it back.
IMO , similar to W N, the 35 W is better suited to BIG game. I O W, the 35 W is too much gun for Whitetail deer.
If you're in the market, there is a pretty nice looking 760 BDL in 30-06 priced at $429.95 for sale on the Williams Gun Sights site, www.williamsgunsight.com
A friend inherited a scoped 243 760 from his dad and I am working on buying it, The only trouble is dad took the ron sights off of it and I would like a coplete rifle..
Anyone have a set of sights they took off that I may pick up?
Unfortunately I don't have the rifle yet to measure screw spacing.
If you're in the market, there is a pretty nice looking 760 BDL in 30-06 priced at $429.95 for sale on the Williams Gun Sights site, www.williamsgunsight.com
If you're referring to the left handed one, it now resides in my safe. Sweet rifle, 99% blueing, a few marks in the wood but none through the "bowling pin" finish.............was a closet queen. Don't know what I'll do with another '06 but couldn't resist a lefty. The deal maker of course was the cool see through scope mounts!
Pa is full of 760's and 7600's.Anytime I encounter someone with a 760 and a cheap Tasco or Bushnell scope on top of see-thru mounts,I instantly have bad feelings about the guy.
Pa is full of 760's and 7600's.Anytime I encounter someone with a 760 and a cheap Tasco or Bushnell scope on top of see-thru mounts,I instantly have bad feelings about the guy.
Why would what a person chooses to shoot prompt you have negative feelings toward them?
Rather than condemning them, maybe you could make an effort to educate them about the error of their ways.
I have a few different Bushnells and a single Tasco mounted, but none in see-thru mounts. I'm pretty happy with the Bushnell A17s that I have on rimfire rifles, think that it offers a better than average performance to cost ratio.
If you're in the market, there is a pretty nice looking 760 BDL in 30-06 priced at $429.95 for sale on the Williams Gun Sights site, www.williamsgunsight.com
Can't believe that somebody hasn't scooped up this rifle yet!
Pa is full of 760's and 7600's.Anytime I encounter someone with a 760 and a cheap Tasco or Bushnell scope on top of see-thru mounts,I instantly have bad feelings about the guy.
WHY do you instantly have bad feelings about ANY hunter??
Fwiw, MANY a deer has been successfully taken with a rifle that has a cheap scope. = In my youth, I shot a .30-30 Marlin that had a REALLY CHEAP scope from Gibson's Discount Center in AR. - I think that I paid less than 10.oo for it in 1965.
Fyi, I try HARD to NOT judge anyone else for their free choices, providing that they are not injuring another person directly. - I suggest that you copy that manner of behavior..
Pa is full of 760's and 7600's.Anytime I encounter someone with a 760 and a cheap Tasco or Bushnell scope on top of see-thru mounts,I instantly have bad feelings about the guy.
From the responses YOUR post has evoked......
Are you not in the same boat ? NO ?
I personally have killed deer w/a cheap scope in See Thrus. Not any more but it does work.
In South Texas, virtually all the pump-rifles addicts seem to be "wrong-handed hunters", like me for example. = There are LOTS of us all over the 50 States.
Right now, I only own 8 of them from 5.56NATO to 9.3x62mm.
ANYBODY have a Model 760 (preferably with a "corncob" foregrip), at a reasonable price, for sale in .257 Roberts??
If you're in the market, there is a pretty nice looking 760 BDL in 30-06 priced at $429.95 for sale on the Williams Gun Sights site, www.williamsgunsight.com
Can't believe that somebody hasn't scooped up this rifle yet!
Fyi, a LARGE percentage of executors couldn't care less what caliber that a rifle is (I get most of my rifles that way or from garage sales.) AND anything but "naught six" is deemed "worthless" by a considerable percentage of hunters here.
I got my .222 & .280 REM Model 760 rifles "for peanuts" at garage sales, as "You can't hardly find shells for those weird things." (Fyi, even the pawnbroker that I bought my "as new" 760 in .244REM, said, "I don't know what you want that thing for. I can't find ammunition for it." = He sold it to me for 60 bucks, in 1966.)
Btw, my niece, TARA, borrowed the .244 until I got tired & told her to "Just keep it", about a decade ago. - She gets her deer with that "oddball caliber" more often than I do. = BORN HUNTRESS, is our Tara. (She calls it: "PURR-fectly GIRL-sized".)
If you're in the market, there is a pretty nice looking 760 BDL in 30-06 priced at $429.95 for sale on the Williams Gun Sights site, www.williamsgunsight.com
Can't believe that somebody hasn't scooped up this rifle yet!
I did. See my post on the previous page
It is still showing as being available on their site. They must be really slow about updating it.
Jerry Someone wanted it more than me. It is now part of another collection. Paul
OKAY, it's just as well.
This From P 133, on 10-4-2018
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Whelen Nut
Just FYI, if anyone is interested. I just posted my 760/300 Savage for sale in the classifieds.
I am ignoring this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I WILL NOT read this ^^^^^^^^^ I refuse to consider this ^^^^^^^
Even tho I would really like to have a 760 in 300 Savage, it would NOT replace my FAV rifles that I hunt regularly.
For the last several years I have ROTATED what I hunt. IN 2018 it was T3X Lite SS 7 RM IN 2017 it was Custom 98 in 284 Win IN 2016 it was Rem M 6 in 30-06 In 2015 it was Rem M 6 in 270 W
EVERY year I have 1 or 2 sighted in and ammo ready as a BACK UP. One year recently I fell so hard that I BOUNCED and my T 3 270 hit the ground hard. I simply changed rifles. Later I checked the 270,--- it was OFF >> R about 1 1/2"
STUFF happens.
ATST the 760 in 300 Savage is a KOOOL rifle/round.
J, if they have a web, Grices in Clearfield Pa. Usually has a ton of pump action rifles.. Of course most are 06 and 270. But some unusual stuff turns up there.. Haven't been there in a year or so... Check it out if you can..
Yes I’m familiar with Grice’s. I know I have 1 Rifle that came thru them Somewhere in my F M D (fading memory disorder) there’s another rifle that I have OR had ?? from them. Now it’ll drive me crazy till I figure that one out. grin
ATST I need another (any other) Rifle like I need a stroke !!
Thanks for the suggestion. The 300 Savage is just a cartridge I’ve not had but I also don’t have a gap (niche) that it would fill.
Inasmuch as the .300SAV is about the ballistic equal of the .308WCF & nearly as powerful in several loads as the standard 150 grain .30-06, I doubt that anyone who has any of the 3 chamberings of rifles truly NEEDS the other 2.
Nonetheless, WANTING to own (or possessing, as I do) all 3 for any lawful use is OK, too.
Yes I’m familiar with Grice’s. I know I have 1 Rifle that came thru them Somewhere in my F M D (fading memory disorder) there’s another rifle that I have OR had ?? from them. Now it’ll drive me crazy till I figure that one out. grin
ATST I need another (any other) Rifle like I need a stroke !!
Thanks for the suggestion. The 300 Savage is just a cartridge I’ve not had but I also don’t have a gap (niche) that it would fill.
Thnx
Jerry
Many moons ago Grice's had a special run of Remington pumps in .257 Bob. Wish I'd have gotten one of them when I could.
I was looking for a .250-3000 in a Savage 99 at a collector show for the kid, but not finding one I bought a Remington 760 in a .257 Roberts instead. I had no idea that it was as collectible as you guys let on and I sold it when the kid lost interest in deer hunting. It was a good shooter like most of the 760's and sure milder on the back end than an '06 in a 760. A 141 in .35 Remington followed me home another time, but I wasn't sure why Remington thought that it needed a 24" barrel, so I "fixed" mine down to a cut and crowed 20 incher. Too heavy and overbuilt compared to the earlier 14's and that one hit the used rack too in preference to the afore mentioned M99F in a .300 Savage.
I was looking for a .250-3000 in a Savage 99 at a collector show for the kid, but not finding one I bought a Remington 760 in a .257 Roberts instead. I had no idea that it was as collectible as you guys let on and I sold it when the kid lost interest in deer hunting. It was a good shooter like most of the 760's and sure milder on the back end than an '06 in a 760. A 141 in .35 Remington followed me home another time, but I wasn't sure why Remington thought that it needed a 24" barrel, so I "fixed" mine down to a cut and crowed 20 incher. Too heavy and overbuilt compared to the earlier 14's and that one hit the used rack too in preference to the afore mentioned M99F in a .300 Savage.
Aren't the only differences between the Remington 14 and 141 the barrel length, 22" vs. 24", and the slightly larger stock and forearm on the 141? I agree that those old Remingtons were overbuilt and that while the 141s are physically larger and heavier than the 14s, I wonder how much more they actually do weigh.
IIRC, Johm Wooters had a 141 with the barrel cut back to just a bit longer than the magazine tube. I've thought about finding a previously bubba'd 141 in 35 REM to replicate JW's rifle, but it is probably one of those neat but never to get done projects.
Fyi, I'm not sure that the 760 in .257 Roberts is technically "collectable" or not (to anyone but us "760 addicts"), but I've looked for one for well over 3 years W/O success for my collection of Remington pump-rifles. (The .257 Roberts and the VERY RARE 7x57mm chambering are the 2 "holes" in my collection.)
YES, I know some "experts" say that there were NO 7x57mm Model 760 rifles made but my information is that CHERRY'S SPORTING GOODS once "special ordered" 300 pieces from Remington. (Ordering anything is NOT the same as RECEIVING the ordered item.- Therefore, I don't know if the rifles were actually produced/delivered or not.) In any case, I'm reasonably sure that IF I found a 7x57mm that I couldn't afford to buy it.
I've never fingered a M14 or the even more desirable 14 1/2 in a .35, but my uncle has a .30 Remington and a friend has a .32 Remington M14 and they felt more like a BB gun compared to my 141. That thing was all steel and a real chunk even with the bobbed barrel. That was back in my youth when I thought that I could walk down a deer until I realized that they had 4 legs and I only had two and they could go twice as fast.
I've never fingered a M14 or the even more desirable 14 1/2 in a .35, but my uncle has a .30 Remington and a friend has a .32 Remington M14 and they felt more like a BB gun compared to my 141. That thing was all steel and a real chunk even with the bobbed barrel. That was back in my youth when I thought that I could walk down a deer until I realized that they had 4 legs and I only had two and they could go twice as fast.
The 14 1/2 was only chambered in 38-40 and 44-40.
The 14 was chambered in 25, 30, 32, and 35 REM.
I've heard of 141s made in 25 REM, but have never seen one, only in 30, 32, and 35 REM.
Fyi, I'm not sure that the 760 in .257 Roberts is technically "collectable" or not (to anyone but us "760 addicts"), but I've looked for one for well over 3 years W/O success for my collection of Remington pump-rifles. (The .257 Roberts and the VERY RARE 7x57mm chambering are the 2 "holes" in my collection.)
YES, I know some "experts" say that there were NO 7x57mm Model 760 rifles made but my information is that CHERRY'S SPORTING GOODS once "special ordered" 300 pieces from Remington. (Ordering anything is NOT the same as RECEIVING the ordered item.- Therefore, I don't know if the rifles were actually produced/delivered or not.) In any case, I'm reasonably sure that IF I found a 7x57mm that I couldn't afford to buy it.
yours, tex
I don't recall anything about a 760 in 7x57 being mentioned in Myszkowski's book, but Remington has made a lot of special runs in non-cataloged configurations, so there are a lot of little known regional oddballs out there, many of them from Grice Guns.
Fyi, I'm not sure that the 760 in .257 Roberts is technically "collectable" or not (to anyone but us "760 addicts"), but I've looked for one for well over 3 years W/O success for my collection of Remington pump-rifles. (The .257 Roberts and the VERY RARE 7x57mm chambering are the 2 "holes" in my collection.)
YES, I know some "experts" say that there were NO 7x57mm Model 760 rifles made but my information is that CHERRY'S SPORTING GOODS once "special ordered" 300 pieces from Remington. (Ordering anything is NOT the same as RECEIVING the ordered item.- Therefore, I don't know if the rifles were actually produced/delivered or not.) In any case, I'm reasonably sure that IF I found a 7x57mm that I couldn't afford to buy it.
I have NOT. - All that I know is that a former & now long dead employee of Cherry's Sporting Goods of Chicago, IL once told me in the 1980s that they were ordered & that he was "sure" that the special order was for 300 pieces. Bob M__________ said that he had no idea if they were actually produced/delivered or not, as he had a stroke & had to retire from CSG's employment.
I received an email from a man on another forum, years ago, that ONE 7x57mm was sold at auction years ago for reportedly over 3,000.USD. (In theory, according to the same "source", a pair of samples were made for Cherry's.)
That is the SUM of all that "I think I know" of this subject & all, some or perhaps none, of what I've seen/heard, may be true. - In any case, I believe enough is truthful to KEEP LOOKING for more/better information. (IF Cherry's Sporting Goods was not KNOWN to have made other "instant collectables", I wouldn't bother with this rather odd issue.)
I would be PLEASED if any of our members has any other (& hopefully better) info on this matter.
I thought it was time to resurrect this thread for the upcoming season and personally thank swag for letting me talk him out of this beauty. He didn't let it go cheap but it's a 1968 model just like me and I'm pretty sure she was unfired. I bought a half dozen 150 gr factory loads to break it in with and see what she liked. Lucky for me she really liked the Federal blue box as you can see. I had a hard time believing the second shot went in the same hole even though it was slightly elongated, so I put a piece of tape over the hole. . Second best was the American Whitetail loads at a sub 1" 5 shot group. THANKS AGAIN SWAG!
I want to thank Whelen Nut and Skane on the guidance they gave me last year with the 7600 I had worked on. The rifle worked very well in the woods and I had a 10pt opening morning at 125yds that dropped like a ton of bricks. The big 9pt came on Thanksgiving with a different rifle.
I thought it was time to resurrect this thread for the upcoming season and personally thank swag for letting me talk him out of this beauty. He didn't let it go cheap but it's a 1968 model just like me and I'm pretty sure she was unfired. I bought a half dozen 150 gr factory loads to break it in with and see what she liked. Lucky for me she really liked the Federal blue box as you can see. I had a hard time believing the second shot went in the same hole even though it was slightly elongated, so I put a piece of tape over the hole. . Second best was the American Whitetail loads at a sub 1" 5 shot group. THANKS AGAIN SWAG!
Looking at a very lightly used 7600 carbine at a shop near my office. It's not had a scope or even sling swivels mounted. It's a newer model, which is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the deal yet. It's priced well.
That rifle is a 760 BDL that Remington made in 270, 308, and 30-06 from 1966 thru 1980(?).
They differed from the usual 760s in that they had pressed basket-weave style "checkering", a raised left or right check-piece, and a "step" at the top/rear of the receiver.
I own or have owned them in 270 and 30-06, but don't recall having seen any chambered in 308.
That rifle is a 760 BDL that Remington made in 270, 308, and 30-06 from 1966 thru 1980(?).
They differed from the usual 760s in that they had pressed basket-weave style "checkering", a raised left or right check-piece, and a "step" at the top/rear of the receiver.
I own or have owned them in 270 and 30-06, but don't recall having seen any chambered in 308.
I suppose one could just swap out the stock to a RH 760 308 if they wanted that "variation".
Fyi, a LARGE percentage of executors couldn't care less what caliber that a rifle is (I get most of my rifles that way or from garage sales.) AND anything but "naught six" is deemed "worthless" by a considerable percentage of hunters here.
I got my .222 & .280 REM Model 760 rifles "for peanuts" at garage sales, as "You can't hardly find shells for those weird things." (Fyi, even the pawnbroker that I bought my "as new" 760 in .244REM, said, "I don't know what you want that thing for. I can't find ammunition for it." = He sold it to me for 60 bucks, in 1966.)
Btw, my niece, TARA, borrowed the .244 until I got tired & told her to "Just keep it", about a decade ago. - She gets her deer with that "oddball caliber" more often than I do. = BORN HUNTRESS, is our Tara. (She calls it: "PURR-fectly GIRL-sized".) 100 yours, tex
I really believe that if bullets would have been as good back when the .244 first came out there may never have been a 6mm Remington. Back then unless you had a 100 grain bullet you were apt to lose your deer. The lighter bullets weren't constructed well enough for larger game as they were made for varmints. Now days bullets are just better. 80 and 85 grain bullets at 3300 FPS MV are great whitetail medicine and they would stabilize well in a .244 Remington barrel.
Of course now days with the long range craze not even the 1:10 twist rate of the .243 was usually given back then is acceptable for that crowd. Even 1:9 is not enough to stabilize the long 110 grain and up special low drag bullets. But for what I use a .243 for the 85-100 grain bullets work fine.
That rifle is a 760 BDL that Remington made in 270, 308, and 30-06 from 1966 thru 1980(?).
They differed from the usual 760s in that they had pressed basket-weave style "checkering", a raised left or right check-piece, and a "step" at the top/rear of the receiver.
I own or have owned them in 270 and 30-06, but don't recall having seen any chambered in 308.
I suppose one could just swap out the stock to a RH 760 308 if they wanted that "variation".
Do the LH 760s have LH safeties as well?
A "standard" 760 wouldn't have the stepped receiver.
Have a '63 Remington 760 in 35 rem Exterior worn....shoots good. Popped a small 8 pt trotting through the thicket last yr (found a hole and he crossed it).
Plan is to use it again this yr. But i bought a new bolt gun....needs blooded.
some of mine see the woods every year if even just for a walk. i haven't gotten a buck in 5 years so i think this years primary will be my 7600 carbine 35 remington. i call it the Meatmaster. shot my best two bucks with it.
Fyi, a LARGE percentage of executors couldn't care less what caliber that a rifle is (I get most of my rifles that way or from garage sales.) AND anything but "naught six" is deemed "worthless" by a considerable percentage of hunters here.
I got my .222 & .280 REM Model 760 rifles "for peanuts" at garage sales, as "You can't hardly find shells for those weird things." (Fyi, even the pawnbroker that I bought my "as new" 760 in .244REM, said, "I don't know what you want that thing for. I can't find ammunition for it." = He sold it to me for 60 bucks, in 1966.)
Btw, my niece, TARA, borrowed the .244 until I got tired & told her to "Just keep it", about a decade ago. - She gets her deer with that "oddball caliber" more often than I do. = BORN HUNTRESS, is our Tara. (She calls it: "PURR-fectly GIRL-sized".) 100 yours, tex
I really believe that if bullets would have been as good back when the .244 first came out there may never have been a 6mm Remington. Back then unless you had a 100 grain bullet you were apt to lose your deer. The lighter bullets weren't constructed well enough for larger game as they were made for varmints. Now days bullets are just better. 80 and 85 grain bullets at 3300 FPS MV are great whitetail medicine and they would stabilize well in a .244 Remington barrel.
Of course now days with the long range craze not even the 1:10 twist rate of the .243 was usually given back then is acceptable for that crowd. Even 1:9 is not enough to stabilize the long 110 grain and up special low drag bullets. But for what I use a .243 for the 85-100 grain bullets work fine.
Remington and Peters cataloged the 244 with 90 grain Pointed Soft Point and Bronze Point bullets for shooting medium game. When I got a 660 in 6mm my Father bought a couple hundred rounds of the 90 grain Bronze Point ammo for me to shoot 'cause he thought that it was a better bullet for shooting deer than any of the available 6mm factory ammo back in 1968/69.
That rifle is a 760 BDL that Remington made in 270, 308, and 30-06 from 1966 thru 1980(?).
They differed from the usual 760s in that they had pressed basket-weave style "checkering", a raised left or right check-piece, and a "step" at the top/rear of the receiver.
I own or have owned them in 270 and 30-06, but don't recall having seen any chambered in 308.
I suppose one could just swap out the stock to a RH 760 308 if they wanted that "variation".
I want to thank Whelen Nut and Skane on the guidance they gave me last year with the 7600 I had worked on. The rifle worked very well in the woods and I had a 10pt opening morning at 125yds that dropped like a ton of bricks. The big 9pt came on Thanksgiving with a different rifle.
Randy, good to hear everything worked out for you and your 7600. Good luck this coming season!
Looking at a very lightly used 7600 carbine at a shop near my office. It's not had a scope or even sling swivels mounted. It's a newer model, which is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the deal yet. It's priced well.
Haven't you pulled the trigger on that yet ?
Per your ? about 760 or 7600, obviously - IMO - both are very good. I have friends who have had 7600s for years with NO problems. Myself, I always bought M Sixes and no regrets.
I have had a couple of 760s, one I rechambered to 35 Whelen again NO problems with either.
I personally like/prefer 7600s because of appearance and the new bolt. Other's MMV.
Looking at a very lightly used 7600 carbine at a shop near my office. It's not had a scope or even sling swivels mounted. It's a newer model, which is the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the deal yet. It's priced well.
Haven't you pulled the trigger on that yet ?
Per your ? about 760 or 7600, obviously - IMO - both are very good. I have friends who have had 7600s for years with NO problems. Myself, I always bought M Sixes and no regrets.
I have had a couple of 760s, one I rechambered to 35 Whelen again NO problems with either.
I personally like/prefer 7600s because of appearance and the new bolt. Other's MMV.
Jerry
I like the 7600 better as well.
No, I have t picked up the carbine yet. I don’t know if I will. It’s a new’ish model.
My father in law had a .243 and left it to my late wife. It is very accurate. I wonder how I would like a new barrel in .338 Federal or 358 Winchester? whelennut
I got sucked back in to the pump scene. Went to the LGS today and they had a 760 BDL Left Hand 30-06 with a Leupold VX-II for 5 bills. I wasn't strong enough to resist and it's here in my living room now. I used to have one just like it but this one is nicer.
Nice and 870 shotgun feeling those 760's are, put them in an '06 and they kick. Probably the same as would be the case with a .358 for Whelennut and I might be wrong, but I suspect that he has more than a couple of whitetail capable rifles already. Stamped parts with mediocre triggers, but more accurate than lots of others out there and way better than the 740-742 semi's of the time.
Just got a 7600 carbine Whelen myself. Painted the stocks in a textured brown paint. Gotta order up a Skinner peep and replacement front sight. Then off to the big woods this fall. This is my first 760/7600, and I must say that they are pretty handy and got a nice feel to them. Thinking 225 or 250 Partitions.
I have no preference between the 2nd generation 760s and the 7600s.
I prefer those over the 1st generation 760s that do not have a free float bbl.
My first year production (IIRC 1952) M760 did not did not come with a free floating barrel. Looking through early 1950s gun magazines, the M760 was advertised as free floating. Turns out, the part making contact with the barrel at the end of the pump handle tube is a brush guard and it was too tall. Pretty simple to remove the brush guard from the rifle and filing it down so that it makes no contact with the barrel is one fix. Leaving the brush guard off the rifle is another.
I kind of wondered why they didn't make a .358 slide action instead of the .35 Whelen? Maybe a carbine model or something around 20" and it might have breathed some life back into the .358 Winchester round. Probably that Winchester name on a Remington rifle was enough to nix the chambering.
I want to thank Whelen Nut and Skane on the guidance they gave me last year with the 7600 I had worked on. The rifle worked very well in the woods and I had a 10pt opening morning at 125yds that dropped like a ton of bricks. The big 9pt came on Thanksgiving with a different rifle.
Randy - well done - nice bucks! And any guidance I could have possibly provided, I'd have learned from Whelen Nut.
I kind of wondered why they didn't make a .358 slide action instead of the .35 Whelen? Maybe a carbine model or something around 20" and it might have breathed some life back into the .358 Winchester round. Probably that Winchester name on a Remington rifle was enough to nix the chambering.
Cuz the most common rounds for the 760(0) are based on the 30-06 and not the 308
I kind of wondered why they didn't make a .358 slide action instead of the .35 Whelen? Maybe a carbine model or something around 20" and it might have breathed some life back into the .358 Winchester round. Probably that Winchester name on a Remington rifle was enough to nix the chambering.
Cuz the most common rounds for the 760(0) are based on the 30-06 and not the 308
That, plus the fact that Remington won't chamber for a cartridge that they don't load ammo for. Doubtful they could justify gearing up to load .358 for that one rifle. They legitimized the Whelen so it was the obvious choice. But yes, a 7600 Carbine in .358 and/or .338 Federal would be very appealing, as would a model Seven.
I always thought a 35 remington in a pump rifle would be a good setup for whitetails in the thick stuff. I toyed with the idea of trying one, but I can't find that 760 safety very handy. Thought about the savage pump, but their reputation is not that sterling so shelved that idea also.
Mine is a Model Six and has a trigger that has been tuned up a bit. I would like it better in a .358 Winchester. Maybe the ideal bear gun?
.358 Winchester would be a sweet pump rifle.
Find an old 35 Remington and have it rechambered. Use a 308 mag and you're GTG.
I've done it. Easy done and worked well.
Yes. Ideal bear gun. I've taken a couple with mine over bait and 200gr TTSX. All pass throughs and DRT. 308 to 358 rechamber job use same mags as for the 308.
Nice and 870 shotgun feeling those 760's are, put them in an '06 and they kick. Probably the same as would be the case with a .358 for Whelennut and I might be wrong, but I suspect that he has more than a couple of whitetail capable rifles already. Stamped parts with mediocre triggers, but more accurate than lots of others out there and way better than the 740-742 semi's of the time.
Hey Windfall. The recoil of my 358 isn't bad at all, much softer than the Whelen, for sure! Just a tad more than my 35Rem/308/270.
I guess once I bought my 700 Classic in 35 Whelan. All the other rifles in the safe are just collecting dust. Although to be honest that Model Six is grouping pretty tight at 100 yds. It is kind of a poor mans assault rifle. whelennut
I've been fortunate/lucky in my chase of Remington pumps that all started as the first gun I remember my Dad having- was a Model14 in .32 Rem with a side mounted 6x .22 small tube scope. In all those years back in the 60's growing up on a farm in Manitoba I do not remember going without Moose or Elk meat ever.
So started my 'sickness' as GF calls it when she counted 16 Rem pumps hanging around, Model 14's were first, gathering a 14/ .25 Carbine, .25 Rifle 30,32 and 35.
A 141 that's unfired and with a serial # of 773XX (d code ww 1950) and all Remington info I've found on the 141's list 76881 as last # made in 1950. Probably parts on hand and assembled later.
760's seemed easier to buy up north here as everybody got the 1000 yd and black rifle fever. date codes & yr a .300Sav yy(1952) with original mag with the hole and the most comfortable custom stock ever on a pump, .257Roberts 5 Diamond ac(1956), .280 Carbine wg(aug 1960) production started July, the 'g' stamped upside down! .270 bx(1973) .308 ez(1975) .243 xz(1975) .35Rem kv1979) unfired Model 6 .308lb lb(Feb1981) production started Jan .30-06 ba(1980)BDL last yr of the 760.
And a .35 Whelen /7600 kq(1996) with retirement in the future maybe I'll have time to enjoy them as the only one of all the above I have shot is the Whelen. Too many and not enough time on my hands.
Ones I regret not having anymore? A 7600 180 Anniversary/30-06 engraved and gold inlayed only like 27 5 gun sets produced, this from a broken up set. A mint 760/6mm that turned out to have been stolen when I went to register it (Cdn gun registry) yrs ago. And Dad's .32 that my Bro's son has & won't give it up.
I have found myself eyeballing some classics lately, specifically the Rem 14 & Rem 141...i've never owned one, but have always liked the looks & lines of those old guns.
My first choice would be a .35rem, as i have lots of brass & components as i currently shoot the .35rem in bolt guns, levers, and single shots. But, i might go .30 rem if i found the right deal on a clean one.
For those of you that have owned 141's, any things to watch for, or considerations to keep in mind, in the purchase of one of those?
Those 141's are over built, all steel, heavier than the 14's and it seems to me that my .35 had a 24" inch barrel which seemed real long to me for a woods rifle. I had the barrel cut back and recrowned to 19" and put a peep sight and fiber optic front sight on it. With a .35 at least I could find factory ammunition. Not so for the .25, .30 and .32 Remington ammo and I consider myself lucky just to have found those cartridges for my collection. A friend has a retired .32 Remington 14 and an uncle has a retired .30 Remington 14 and they feel like a .22 LR verses my chunky 141. I had that 141 back when I wanted to be a Benoit wanna be and track um down. Wrong woods to do that in and I got a lot of deer killed by other guys up ahead with more patience than I had.
My first 760 was a 1978 or '79 model in 30-06 & is still my favorite deer rifle. These two pumps are my latest additions. The 141 is a .35 Rem. The older 760 is a 30-06. Since taking the pic I have cut down the barrel to carbine length & replaced the scope rings with an old set from Weaver. This gun was a real mess when I bought it, the finish was about gone and there was a major problem with the rifling in the last 2 inches of the barrel so I didn't mind cutting it down. Have not fired it yet but it should make a nice short range gun. Yes, the 141 has a 24" barrel.
Dad decided to switch from the 180s he's been shooting since the early 90s to 150s. He's hoping for a little less recoil. H First group with the 150s was aceptable by my standards for a 200 yard deer Slayer.
I think it'll do alright for him. Just plain Remington corelokt
Can't remember if I posted this before, but it's a good one...7600 .30-06 with a 4X Zeiss. Rem custom shop tuned the trigger and reversed the safety years ago. I also had the impressed checkering re-cut. Came out rather nice, for a pump gun. Bob
top group is LC GI Match, bottom 165 gr Sierra GameKings
Mine is a Model Six and has a trigger that has been tuned up a bit. I would like it better in a .358 Winchester. Maybe the ideal bear gun?
.358 Winchester would be a sweet pump rifle.
Find an old 35 Remington and have it rechambered. Use a 308 mag and you're GTG.
I've done it. Easy done and worked well.
Yes. Ideal bear gun. I've taken a couple with mine over bait and 200gr TTSX. All pass throughs and DRT. 308 to 358 rechamber job use same mags as for the 308.
BRAIN FART Correction...35Rem to 358W rechamber job! Also have done the reboring job, which works just fine. But more expensive.
Dad decided to switch from the 180s he's been shooting since the early 90s to 150s. He's hoping for a little less recoil. H First group with the 150s was aceptable by my standards for a 200 yard deer Slayer.
I think it'll do alright for him. Just plain Remington corelokt
I kind of wondered why they didn't make a .358 slide action instead of the .35 Whelen? Maybe a carbine model or something around 20" and it might have breathed some life back into the .358 Winchester round. Probably that Winchester name on a Remington rifle was enough to nix the chambering.
I always thought the same thing. So I had a Remington 7600 in .358 made with a 20" Krieger barrel. Mounted a Leupold 1.5-5X and all is good.
Dad decided to switch from the 180s he's been shooting since the early 90s to 150s. He's hoping for a little less recoil. H First group with the 150s was aceptable by my standards for a 200 yard deer Slayer.
I think it'll do alright for him. Just plain Remington corelokt
I recently bought a used 7600 in '06 with the MC stock. Over the years I've owed quite a few 760/7600s with the straight comb and avoided the later ones with the MC as many have reported that that stock doesn't work well overall.
Much to my surprise, I've found the MC to work exactly as it should and aids in easier scope use but does impair open sight use. I kinda like it.
Much to my surprise, I've found the MC to work exactly as it should and aids in easier scope use but does impair open sight use. I kinda like it.
Well, I guess I have enuff country hick ( johnny reb ) in me to like MC (Monte Carlo) stocks. I always liked the LOOK of the Wby Mk V stocks and never avoided the MC stocks. I have and have had plenty of them.
They DO work quite well.
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Nov '15 >> 270 This guy was chasing (running) a Doe straight toward me. I yelled, HEEEEY ! and he stopped 24 yds away and I dropped him.
Has anybody here had JES do a 6/76/760/7600 243/308 rebore/rechamber to 338 Federal?
I traded a pair of Savage 340s for a 7600 in 243 back in 2017 that is just gathering dust and I was thinking that it might gather a little less dust if it was chambered in 338 FED.
I tried to call JES, but the voice mail box is full.
New to me older Remington 760 in 30-06. Gun had been sitting in the shop for months, with zero interest for $250. I went up to look at a 700 bolt action in 7mm Rem magnum, which I bought.
Anyways, I asked if the gun was still there and they replied yes. I told them I'd give them $200 for it, I wouldn't go $250 because the last one I bought from them was newer(1965 vintage) and had checkering and all and I paid $250 for that one. So they text the guy and he says he'll take $200, so cool, I bought it.
Went home and did some checking, with a barrel code of "ayy", the gun is a first year manufacture made in March of 1952.
The gun is in beautiful condition, no scratches in the wood and no bluing loss except for on the pump tube, which would be normal if it was pumped a few times. However, it certainly doesn't look like it was used or shot very much.
Rear sight was removed and it has a weaver scope base so probably had a scope mounted way back when, but in that condition, for $200, I'll take every one I run across.
Picture is just the way I got it, I didn't even wipe it down, pretty clean gun for its age !!!!
I've never owned a M6/760/7600 but the same could not be said for the M14 or M141. When I was young - probably late teens - I recall considering purchasing a M760. My uncle strongly advised against saying, "they rattle like a tin can." For the deep woods hunting we did where the range could be real close, he believed the deer could easily hear the forearm rattle. I have handled many of them and it doesn't seem to take much of a shake to hear the forearm rattle. I've had plenty of experience that has proven to me how well those big-eared whitetails can hear.
I've never owned a M6/760/7600 but the same could not be said for the M14 or M141. When I was young - probably late teens - I recall considering purchasing a M760. My uncle strongly advised against saying, "they rattle like a tin can." For the deep woods hunting we did where the range could be real close, he believed the deer could easily hear the forearm rattle. I have handled many of them and it doesn't seem to take much of a shake to hear the forearm rattle. I've had plenty of experience that has proven to me how well those big-eared whitetails can hear.
That whole rattling forearm scaring deer argument is beyond silly.
It holds absolutely no reality whatso ever....that is unless you can sneak through the woods in absolute soundlessness...
I've never owned a M6/760/7600 but the same could not be said for the M14 or M141. When I was young - probably late teens - I recall considering purchasing a M760. My uncle strongly advised against saying, "they rattle like a tin can." For the deep woods hunting we did where the range could be real close, he believed the deer could easily hear the forearm rattle. I have handled many of them and it doesn't seem to take much of a shake to hear the forearm rattle. I've had plenty of experience that has proven to me how well those big-eared whitetails can hear.
That whole rattling forearm scaring deer argument is beyond silly.
It holds absolutely no reality whatso ever....that is unless you can sneak through the woods in absolute soundlessness...
I think the forend could also rattle as you move the rifle around in the stand. A metallic rattle stands out in the woods. Some sounds are normal in the woods like squirrels thrashing around in the brush, birds hopping around, wind moving trees against each other, etc. The woods are not quiet so some sounds that a hunter might make don't stand out like other sounds.
Hey wink man, were you wearing a ski-mask in that shop? Whatta deal!
This shop is something else Whelen Nut, so are some of the liberal morons in Jersey.
These rifles were owned by people who used to hunt out of state and don't anymore because you can't hunt deer with a centerfire in New Jersey, only shotgun or muzzleloader. So when a guy quits hunting, or dies, family wants to get rid of it. The shop tells them there's no demand in Jersey for these rifles because you can't hunt with them in Jersey. The people tell them they don't care and just want to get rid of it, hence the low prices.
I actually picked 2 up there yesterday. That pump sat there for a few months at $250 with no interest in it, that's why I offered $200. Additionally, I picked up a Remington 700 BDL in 7MM Rem Mag with a KK barrel code which would make it May 1990 manufacture with a Nikon Pre Monarch scope mounted in Leupold rings/bases. 338RCM here tells me it is one of the finest scopes Nikon made. Gun appears to be unfired, not a scratch or mark on it, no wear on boltface, nothing. I picked that combo up for $400, pretty hard to beat in my opinion.
That whole rattling forearm scaring deer argument is beyond silly.
It holds absolutely no reality whatso ever....that is unless you can sneak through the woods in absolute soundlessness...
I agree fully, it is greatly exaggerated by the naysayers of the day. just like the naysayer gunwriters who claimed Weaver pivot mounts wouldn't hold zero, they obviously never tested them out thoroughly.
I've shot a few deer with a 760 pump and never had one spook because of a forearm rattle before I got to shoot them. if it was that bad, Remington certainly wouldn't have sold the numbers of 760/6/7600 pumps that they have sold.
All my life I've been a firm believer of what Steelhead said on here years ago, and that is if you can fool their nose, you can get away with a lot !!!!!
Originally Posted by Whelen Nut
I guess the 60+ Whitetails I've shot in WI, MI, and KS over the years all must have been deaf!
Exactly LOL !!!! Because people aren't buying pump rifles for target shooting and plinking, are they !!!!!!
I guess the 60+ Whitetails I've shot in WI, MI, and KS over the years all must have been deaf!
Mine too. I don't know the number, it would take a while to go thru my notes and tally the deer I've killed with 760 (35 Whelen) and M Sixes ( 6mm R, 270 W, & 06 ). It's a bunch.
NONE spooked because of the forearm.
Wink Man said above ^^^^^ "I agree fully, it is greatly exaggerated by the naysayers of the day. just like the naysayer gunwriters who claimed Weaver pivot mounts wouldn't hold zero, they obviously never tested them out thoroughly."
Some 760's are real rattle traps. All depends on whether or not the o-ring is still there.
Hey Mike
No argument here just some explanation.
I know that some ‘pumps’ forends rattle. I had a friend in SE La who hunted a 760 in 6mm Rem that rattled. That’s the only 1 I’ve been around that did.
My Dad’s first deer rifle was a 760 in 30-06 around 1960 I’ve had plenty 760 / Sixes and hunting friends have or had 7600s. None of these pumps rattled.
You are correct about the O ring. I did not mean to imply that 760s. 7600s, or Sixes did not rattle.
IMO from being around A LOT of Rem pumps there is more bad rap than they really deserve.
I agree Jerry but I have a bad one right now. A nice 760 BDL and it rattles worse than any I've owned. I believe this one could scare game. I can't replace the o-ring though. I broke a screwdriver trying to remove the action bar so then I applied heat with a torch and still busted a punch trying to get that action bar off. It just ain't coming and I'm going to have to live with the rattle.
I've never owned a M6/760/7600 but the same could not be said for the M14 or M141. When I was young - probably late teens - I recall considering purchasing a M760. My uncle strongly advised against saying, "they rattle like a tin can." For the deep woods hunting we did where the range could be real close, he believed the deer could easily hear the forearm rattle. I have handled many of them and it doesn't seem to take much of a shake to hear the forearm rattle. I've had plenty of experience that has proven to me how well those big-eared whitetails can hear.
That whole rattling forearm scaring deer argument is beyond silly.
It holds absolutely no reality whatso ever....that is unless you can sneak through the woods in absolute soundlessness...
I think the forend could also rattle as you move the rifle around in the stand. A metallic rattle stands out in the woods. Some sounds are normal in the woods like squirrels thrashing around in the brush, birds hopping around, wind moving trees against each other, etc. The woods are not quiet so some sounds that a hunter might make don't stand out like other sounds.
I suggest you stop thinking.....I'm going to bet your stand makes more "mettallic" sounds as you climb into it than abforeamr on a pump will ever make
I've never owned a M6/760/7600 but the same could not be said for the M14 or M141. When I was young - probably late teens - I recall considering purchasing a M760. My uncle strongly advised against saying, "they rattle like a tin can." For the deep woods hunting we did where the range could be real close, he believed the deer could easily hear the forearm rattle. I have handled many of them and it doesn't seem to take much of a shake to hear the forearm rattle. I've had plenty of experience that has proven to me how well those big-eared whitetails can hear.
That whole rattling forearm scaring deer argument is beyond silly.
It holds absolutely no reality whatso ever....that is unless you can sneak through the woods in absolute soundlessness...
I think the forend could also rattle as you move the rifle around in the stand. A metallic rattle stands out in the woods. Some sounds are normal in the woods like squirrels thrashing around in the brush, birds hopping around, wind moving trees against each other, etc. The woods are not quiet so some sounds that a hunter might make don't stand out like other sounds.
Internet BS started by people that never hunt with them. The dump you took before you tied your boots is going to scare more deer than your rifle.
I have a had a grand total of 1 deer hear my gun. It was “snick” of the safety that he heard. Too late...lights out at 25 feet.
Some 760's are real rattle traps. All depends on whether or not the o-ring is still there.
Right ..... That rattle is an easy fix. Slip on a new o-ring and you're GTG.
But that's not necessarily an easy decision either. The O-rings eventually tear and any good PA gunsmith will tell you pretty much the only time they see Remington pumps come in is when the O-rings have tore and then bound up the pump handle. A lot of guys don't want them replaced for that reason.
Some 760's are real rattle traps. All depends on whether or not the o-ring is still there.
Right ..... That rattle is an easy fix. Slip on a new o-ring and you're GTG.
But that's not necessarily an easy decision either. The O-rings eventually tear and any good PA gunsmith will tell you pretty much the only time they see Remington pumps come in is when the O-rings have tore and then bound up the pump handle. A lot of guys don't want them replaced for that reason.
Hmmmm ...... I've never heard or experienced that before, but can see how it would be a problem. When I replace those rings, I always clean out the forend tube and lightly lube it with lithium grease. Not sure it that helps in the long run but it does run smoother.
I have a 7600 now that has the smoothest forend/action I've ever seen. If you stand the rifle upright and hit the forend release button, the slide will fall almost to the back of the action on it's own.
Has anybody here had JES do a 6/76/760/7600 243/308 rebore/rechamber to 338 Federal?
I traded a pair of Savage 340s for a 7600 in 243 back in 2017 that is just gathering dust and I was thinking that it might gather a little less dust if it was chambered in 338 FED.
I tried to call JES, but the voice mail box is full.
I bet that would be a great pump gun. I've thought of doing the same thing, maybe cut the barrel to 20" too.
I've never owned a M6/760/7600 but the same could not be said for the M14 or M141. When I was young - probably late teens - I recall considering purchasing a M760. My uncle strongly advised against saying, "they rattle like a tin can." For the deep woods hunting we did where the range could be real close, he believed the deer could easily hear the forearm rattle. I have handled many of them and it doesn't seem to take much of a shake to hear the forearm rattle. I've had plenty of experience that has proven to me how well those big-eared whitetails can hear.
That whole rattling forearm scaring deer argument is beyond silly.
It holds absolutely no reality whatso ever....that is unless you can sneak through the woods in absolute soundlessness...
I think the forend could also rattle as you move the rifle around in the stand. A metallic rattle stands out in the woods. Some sounds are normal in the woods like squirrels thrashing around in the brush, birds hopping around, wind moving trees against each other, etc. The woods are not quiet so some sounds that a hunter might make don't stand out like other sounds.
I've had the hammer cock of Winchester 94's and T/C Renegade stop deer cold. They don't like that sound.
The forearm was just one more noise thing that I could eliminate by going to a bolt action. My 141 and 760 both went on the used rifle rack in favor of a quieter, better quality one and done bolt action. About that same time I changed from where I hunted with a group in the heavily hunted north east part of the state where shooting at a moving animal was a pretty common occurrence. Being a M12 and 870 pump gun bird hunter, the pump deer rifle seemed a natural for a faster follow up shot. I don't remember needing a follow up shot in a long time where I deer hunt now.
The forearm was just one more noise thing that I could eliminate by going to a bolt action. My 141 and 760 both went on the used rifle rack in favor of a quieter, better quality one and done bolt action. About that same time I changed from where I hunted with a group in the heavily hunted north east part of the state where shooting at a moving animal was a pretty common occurrence. Being a M12 and 870 pump gun bird hunter, the pump deer rifle seemed a natural for a faster follow up shot. I don't remember needing a follow up shot in a long time where I deer hunt now.
Better quality? Really? What did you get a Sauer or Blaser?
No rifle is perfect. You pay attention and work with what ya got. Yeah my 55 yr old 760 can rattle. Not bad, I can move it around quietly.
General movement (still hunting), it's no big deal. It's way more quiet than any M500 shotgun. Hate those POS.
My 500 doesn't rattle AT ALL and has accounted for several dozen deer. You've just got to be smart enough to know how to tighten them up. It's not hard and only takes a few minutes.
No rifle is perfect. You pay attention and work with what ya got. Yeah my 55 yr old 760 can rattle. Not bad, I can move it around quietly.
General movement (still hunting), it's no big deal. It's way more quiet than any M500 shotgun. Hate those POS.
My 500 doesn't rattle AT ALL and has accounted for several dozen deer. You've just got to be smart enough to know how to tighten them up. It's not hard and only takes a few minutes.
If you are truly smart you don't buy a fuggin Mossberg. They were a solid choice back in the smoothbore days. Tended to outshoot other platforms. Junky but worked well.
Once rifled bbls came out, the swap to Remington was the logical choice. Still is.
Got my first gun deer w a M500 Regal. Bought new for $215. Gave it away after one season.
No rifle is perfect. You pay attention and work with what ya got. Yeah my 55 yr old 760 can rattle. Not bad, I can move it around quietly.
General movement (still hunting), it's no big deal. It's way more quiet than any M500 shotgun. Hate those POS.
My 500 doesn't rattle AT ALL and has accounted for several dozen deer. You've just got to be smart enough to know how to tighten them up. It's not hard and only takes a few minutes.
If you are truly smart you don't buy a fuggin Mossberg. They were a solid choice back in the smoothbore days. Tended to outshoot other platforms. Junky but worked well.
Once rifled bbls came out, the swap to Remington was the logical choice. Still is.
Got my first gun deer w a M500 Regal. Bought new for $215. Gave it away after one season.
I slug hunted for many years and have owned a pile of fully rifled and smoothbore slug guns including several 870's, Win. 1300's, Ithaca 37's and Mossberg 500's. My rifled cantilever barreled 500 was the most accurate of the bunch and has never malfunctioned once in the 30 years and thousands of rounds I've used it. In fact, all the others are now gone and the 500 is all that remains, just in case I decide to hunt a slug zone again someday. And please don't try to tell me what a good pump gun is or isn't. I was gunsmithing professionally in a slug zone for years and set up/ accurized/test fired/built/repaired a lot of slug guns. Too many people think if a pump gun isn't "tight" it's junk. Well if that's the case then the Ithaca 37 is the biggest heap out there. Those can have the rattle/slop taken out just as easily as a Mossberg. Surely a genius gun expert such as yourself could accomplish it no problem.
I bought 'OlRufus' 7600. It was the rebore from 243 to 358 Winchester. Cleaned and oiled, synthetic stock, and ready for hunting. I didn't want to ruin the stocks and wish to do some camo art on the synthetic. The trigger job needs to be done and reverse the sinistra safety. I have a folding ghost ring and a Tech-Sights protected post front to install and a forward mount scope base to find. I will then set up a scope and a dot sight in QD rings and will be set for all weather. When finished you guys can critique it or whatever. I know a few guys that will appreciate it whether they want one like it or not. Be Well, .RZ
I'm thinking about a Savage M170 to play around with.
Isn't that the 30-30 pump? I heard those frequently have jamming issues Tom.
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Originally Posted by hookeye
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by hookeye
No rifle is perfect. You pay attention and work with what ya got. Yeah my 55 yr old 760 can rattle. Not bad, I can move it around quietly.
General movement (still hunting), it's no big deal. It's way more quiet than any M500 shotgun. Hate those POS.
My 500 doesn't rattle AT ALL and has accounted for several dozen deer. You've just got to be smart enough to know how to tighten them up. It's not hard and only takes a few minutes.
If you are truly smart you don't buy a fuggin Mossberg. They were a solid choice back in the smoothbore days. Tended to outshoot other platforms. Junky but worked well.
Once rifled bbls came out, the swap to Remington was the logical choice. Still is.
Got my first gun deer w a M500 Regal. Bought new for $215. Gave it away after one season.
I slug hunted for many years and have owned a pile of fully rifled and smoothbore slug guns including several 870's, Win. 1300's, Ithaca 37's and Mossberg 500's. My rifled cantilever barreled 500 was the most accurate of the bunch and has never malfunctioned once in the 30 years and thousands of rounds I've used it. In fact, all the others are now gone and the 500 is all that remains, just in case I decide to hunt a slug zone again someday. And please don't try to tell me what a good pump gun is or isn't. I was gunsmithing professionally in a slug zone for years and set up/ accurized/test fired/built/repaired a lot of slug guns. Too many people think if a pump gun isn't "tight" it's junk. Well if that's the case then the Ithaca 37 is the biggest heap out there. Those can have the rattle/slop taken out just as easily as a Mossberg. Surely a genius gun expert such as yourself could accomplish it no problem.
I gave my son my 12 ga. 870 in exchange for his little 500 Bantam 20 ga. I've got a cantilever rifled slug barrel on it, and it works just fine. With the choke tube barrel it makes a nice little grouse gun. No complaints here whatsover. The slug barrel wears an old Weave K2.5, and it really likes Hornandy SST saboted slugs. 2" group at 100 yards. Plenty good enough for me for minute of deer accuracy. Mossy's get a bad rap, but I've never had a problem with this nice little gun.
Cantilevers suck. Usually too high even when using a high comb stock. Prefer a dedicated slug gun and drill and tapped receiver. Killed a fair amount of deer w pump shotguns. Tested ammo, cleaning intervals, reqd foulers, chokes and rifled bbls. Worst rig ever was a cantilever 835. Drilled and tapped 870 w rifled bore for the win
Alloy receiver Mossbergs have a thick wrist. IMHO they suck for wing shooting. Could be tolerable as a rifle. Buy even then I think a Rem feels better.
Cantilevers suck. Usually too high even when using a high comb stock. Prefer a dedicated slug gun and drill and tapped receiver. Killed a fair amount of deer w pump shotguns. Tested ammo, cleaning intervals, reqd foulers, chokes and rifled bbls. Worst rig ever was a cantilever 835. Drilled and tapped 870 w rifled bore for the win
Alloy receiver Mossbergs have a thick wrist. IMHO they suck for wing shooting. Could be tolerable as a rifle. Buy even then I think a Rem feels better.
Any of the Mossy's with the hardwood stocks do have a relatively thick wrist. Not good for folks with dainty little hands. They work fine for guys with full grown man hands. Older Mossbergs with walnut stocks and fluted combs have thinner wrists. I have one of those and shoot it very well. Still works perfectly at over 50 years old. Drilled/tapped 870's can shoot quite well, particularly if the barrel is secured to the receiver with screws. I did a bunch of those for customers. I still have an old Wingmaster here in the safe but never use it anymore. Just never cared for the crossbolt safety location, thin wristed stock or slide release location and they never fit me particularly well. Much prefer the thumb safety on my Mossbergs and BPS and can shoot either better than an 870.
Cantilevers suck. Usually too high even when using a high comb stock. Prefer a dedicated slug gun and drill and tapped receiver. Killed a fair amount of deer w pump shotguns. Tested ammo, cleaning intervals, reqd foulers, chokes and rifled bbls. Worst rig ever was a cantilever 835. Drilled and tapped 870 w rifled bore for the win
Alloy receiver Mossbergs have a thick wrist. IMHO they suck for wing shooting. Could be tolerable as a rifle. Buy even then I think a Rem feels better.
The only cantilever setup I've ever had is this little Mossberg. It seems to work just fine for me. My old 870 that my son ended up with is a smoothbore slug barrel. I had the barrel permanently mated to the frame and a Leupie base and rings installed. It's scary accurate out to 100 yards with simple old Foster style rifled slugs. Easily a 1" gun at that range, but man, that thing beats the crap out of you to shoot it any ammount.
I have found the LiteField Lites 12 gauge slug shoot well in my guns and the felt recoil is much less than the regular ammo. Stay away from 3 inch anything.
He’s the best buck I’ve seen since 2011. I was more tempted to enter the Outlaw world today than since I LEFT it years ago. (Statute of limitations has expired)
I have a Rem. 7600 in .35 whelen but the deer I have shot with factory 250 grain bullets have not died well. If I handloaded some fast opening Nosler balistic tips it may work better. However I recently got a Savage 99 in .300 sav. and used it to take a bull moose a white-tail doe and two wolves. I like it a lot as my fast handling bush gun. In the mountains or prairie I use a long barreled bolt action.
From my experience, the Hornady 200 Spire Points did well on WT in the 35 W. It was my bullet of choice for deer.
Jerry
AGREE! The 250's are probably the least effective bullet to use on deer. Sure the deer will eventually die but the 200's will make it happen faster with a shorter tracking job. The old 225 Ballistic Tips were pretty good, too.
Did someone a while back mention a Blaah-zerr? Wow. Get back to reality here, my 7600 rebore 358 Winchester is going to be some fun this season. But I have to shoot my 1905 Steyr M/S in 9x56 too. About the same bullet, just a different delivery system. Only two or three thousandths inch smaller. I think lots of guys would like the bullets I use for my 9MM from Hawk Bullets. This is a free advertisement. But their bullets are made with a dead soft jacket of copper not gilding metal. They look pretty, I have a box of the slightly undersized 9s for the 9X56. They can be ordered in pointed, round nose, or flat point. There some different thickness jackets for different velocities. Look them up. If I had the 35 Remington or 300 Savage I would try some. I like the principle of the copper instead of gilding metal. It obturates easier than the hard jackets. They are said to stay together better also. Maybe I will go to the shop and load some in a few. Be Well, RZ.
My first year production 760 in 30-06 with a date code of AYY making it March 1952. Gun cleaned up nicely, has some honest use but the guy took pretty good care of it, no scratches or dings in the wood and the only bluing loss is on the slide bars and pump tube.
Just a minimal amount of copper and crud in the barrel, it cleaned up well and the gun has a bright shiny bore.
Pump tube was loose into the receiver, I could turn it with my fingers, first time I ever encountered that, and I tightened it up with a 5/32 flat head punch and a short piece of 2X4.
Barrel is considerably slimmer than newer model 760's, either that or Uncle Mikes is making the barrel band a little larger lately.
I put a Bushnell Banner 1.5X4.5 variable on it. Yes it's an inexpensive(think cheap) scope, but very bright with great target acquisition at real close range. My son, daughter and I use this scope on the slug guns and they have never failed us, despite 12 gauge slug recoil. The scope will probably be temporary, I see myself searching for another low power El Paso Weaver or Denver Redfield with a post & crosshair reticle.
Rear sight is missing it's the early dovetail sight, I will keep my eye out for that also. If I get the sight, I have a line on a Weaver pivot mount base & rings and I'll put the post & crosshair scope in that base/ring set.
Sling is an old leather one that came with a 1968 Rem 700 BDL I picked up a year ago, it was dried out and looked kind of shot, but a little coconut oil and it softened up nicely and is now very usable.
Looking for the next project, LMAO, we'll see what comes into that gunshop next. The last thing I needed was this rifle, but they were literally giving it away !!!!!!
Most people when they buy a gun, decide which type of gun/caliber they want and then the scope that will best suit their needs for that gun. Once that is decided, they will come up with the bases/rings they feel is appropriate for the setup.
And then there is me. Only I hunt for(and manage to find) obsolete scope bases for my favorite make and model pumpgun. Then I look for(and manage to find) the only obsolete rings that will fit these bases; which I think are getting even harder to find than the bases, thank you Labman95.
Then I will watch for an obsolete pumpgun that will suit my needs with these bases/rings and finally a scope(often obsolete also) that will fit this setup for the hunting that I do in the thick northeast.
I'll keep my eye out and see what my local gunshop comes up with on consignment that might fit into this application, LMAO !!!!! They've done pretty well by me in the recent past.
However there are errors in their records because they also claim it was only chambered in these years and in 1980, however; I have a 1979 760 (verified by both the date code and in conversation with Remington) in .35 Remington.
I just bought a 742 BDL 30-06 off Gunbroker in outstanding shape. This will go nicely with my 760 BDL '06. I just love the basket weaves. Before you harangue me about all the things that are going to go wrong with my 742 please understand we are not allowed to hunt with Semi's here. Whatever goes wrong with it will only matter at the range. My 760 is my hunting gun. Anyway this gun should be at the FFL tomorrow and I'm excited to get my hands on it.
Good luck with the new gun. Many call them jamomatics, but keep the gun clean, especially the chamber and they are not a problem. A Remington chamber brush available online from Remington, is a good investment.
I'm going upstate NY to hunt with Qtips cousin this year and I'm thinking about using my 7400 in .308 and leaving the 760's home. I kinda feel like a traitor to the 760's but my host is going to use his 750, so I thought I might as well use my semi also.
Hopefully Qtip(God rest his soul) will be looking down from above and tagging along with us.
I'm going upstate NY to hunt with Qtips cousin this year and I'm thinking about using my 7400 in .308 and leaving the 760's home. I kinda feel like a traitor to the 760's but my host is going to use his 750, so I thought I might as well use my semi also.
Unless it's an often used and trusted rifle, I'd take a back-up. You can't hardly give away a Remington semi here and for good reason.
I had a Remington 742 BDL .308 in the early 70s and it NEVER had any kind of Jam, FTF, or failure to fire. I just wanted a different gun and then, at that moment, began my looney problem. Be Well, RZ.
358 Winchester 7600 now has a side folding stock. It would be great but is too heavy. It does give me a short gun for the truck. And the adjustable LOP helps. The weight soaks up some recoil I'm sure. Will have to decide whether to keep or sell it. It fits the 870 20 gauge as most of you guys know. Might have to get an 870 in 20 gauge! Be Well, RZ
Anyone get a deer or other game with a pump rifle yet this season? Be Well, RZ.
I dusted off my 1981 760 Gamemaster 30/06 safe queen and took her out Saturday. Saw no deer but I'll be carrying it until I get one. What a smooth shooting rifle. I don't why I've not been using it.
Nothing wrong with one of those! The old timers didn't car how sexy their rifle was, they just wanted it to work well and have a quick followup shot if needed. That's why these pumps became classic deer rifles.
A 7600 carbine with the engraved receiver showed up at a local shop chambered in 30-06. How obnoxious is the blast from the carbine in 30-06?
It never bothered me. That's all my dad ever hunted with after I turned 12 and he gave me his 760 rifle. But I do know the Carbines turn grown men into whimpering babies. At least that's what I read online.
Thinking bout putting a 1-4X on my 760 in 35 rem after season. Move the 4x on it to a .22rf
Really like a 1 or 1.5X for movers in the sticks.
I'm with you on the 1X-1.5X for a 760/7600 in thick areas. I'm in the Northeast, where it's a lot of thick cover. I bought my 760 in 1979, and shortly afterward scoped it with a Leupold Vari X III 1.5X5 with the 20MM objective lens. I have shot a bunch of whitetails with that combo, and to this day I have never moved the power setting from 1.5. Never had a problem in low light situations with the 20MM Objective lens either.
On my 2 favorite slug guns, I have mounted Bushnell Banners 1.5X4.5, and again, I have never moved them off the 1.5 power setting.
A 7600 carbine with the engraved receiver showed up at a local shop chambered in 30-06. How obnoxious is the blast from the carbine in 30-06?
The blast doesn't seem that bad from my 760 carbine in 30-06 more like a very loud boom, instead of a crack, but again, I'm half deaf from shooting 06's and 12 gauges since I was a kid without any hearing protection.
One thing that will stand out to you is that if you are shooting a deer in fading light at dusk with a 30-06 Carbine, you will think you are using a flame thrower, LOL.
A 7600 carbine with the engraved receiver showed up at a local shop chambered in 30-06. How obnoxious is the blast from the carbine in 30-06?
The blast doesn't seem that bad from my 760 carbine in 30-06 more like a very loud boom, instead of a crack, but again, I'm half deaf from shooting 06's and 12 gauges since I was a kid without any hearing protection.
One thing that will stand out to you is that if you are shooting a deer in fading light at dusk with a 30-06 Carbine, you will think you are using a flame thrower, LOL.
Lol, flame thrower.
It’s a slick little rifle. I’m trying to decide if I should part with one of my Marlin 30-30’s for it.
Didnt know he busted a tine. Big enough for me. Kinda palmated.....but w busted tine proly just skull cap. Dropped him w shot from treestand. Couldnt get down for a half hour, 4 6 7 and 8 pointers and two does all around me.
Thanks. He dressed 181#. My back is shot, smoked an elbow tendon. Was not looking fwd to the drag.
Buddy popped an 8 pointer, his died out in the field. His Jeep still nice.
Mine's a POS, so I went to the sticker bush area, lots of saplings, and drove in, snaked around bigger trees and tied mine to the hitch (w head up). Slowly drove him to the road, where we put him on my bud's hitch haul.
Ol lady giving me crap about not mounting him. Never seen the deer before, no history. Just knew something decent was hitting the upper corner. Luck of the hunt.
I just got my first pump sighted in,this thing is crazy on the spot. Its a 7600 rem in 30-06. I like it a lot so far, hope to get to try it out next weekend after this week of muzel loader.
hookeye, I just came into a model 14 chambered in .30 Remington. I was cruising around the internet looking at gun parts for model 14's and 141's and ebay had some peep sights for sale. Also seeing as how this thread is all about pump guns I would like to ask if anyone here could help me out with advice or heads up on getting this thing up and running. I will obviously need to reload for it, I can get brass somewhat decently priced online but dies and actual load data are an issue. My plans are to hunt with this gun when I get it up and running, (hopefully next rifle season) Thanks in advance
I inherited my younger brother's Remington 760, an older one, in 30-06.
Then when Remington came out with their 7600 in 280 Remington, I absolutely had to have one of them! Worked up a load with the 139 Hornady SPBT. That rifle is ridiculously consistent with that load. Take to range before season, fire 3 shots, go look at 3 shots in an inch, right where they should be, go hunting.
In 1990 I took it on a hunting trip to Colorado and killed a nice 4 point.
I haven't used it in a long time, but it's a dandy rifle and caliber. One of these days I'll take my brother's '06 out and find a willing victim!
Good luck with those pivot bases. I've never trusted them as far as I could throw them. When I worked at the rifle range, next to $20.00 Tasco scopes, those pivot bases were the biggest culprit for lack of consistent groupings. Especially the older ones. I think the lock plates just didn't do a good job on them.
I have used and still use Weaver pivot bases/rings on at least 20+ rifles and 3" slugguns over the last 30+ years. NEVER had the slightest problem with them. Use a quality scope with them--NO worries.
I have used and still use Weaver pivot bases/rings on at least 20+ rifles and 3" slugguns over the last 30+ years. NEVER had the slightest problem with them. Use a quality scope with them--NO worries.
Hey Paul...I might have one laying around here. If I can find it, I’ll send it your way. My grandpa had it on the 740 my uncle gave me.
I have used and still use Weaver pivot bases/rings on at least 20+ rifles and 3" slugguns over the last 30+ years. NEVER had the slightest problem with them. Use a quality scope with them--NO worries.
Hey Paul...I might have one laying around here. If I can find it, I’ll send it your way. My grandpa had it on the 740 my uncle gave me.
Excellent. I have a, new to me, old 760 in .308w that would love to wear it. THANK YOU!
I used my dad’s 742 280 to kill a doe this past season. The Weaver pivot mounts weren’t a problem for sighting in or hunting, my family has used them for years.
I have used and still use Weaver pivot bases/rings on at least 20+ rifles and 3" slugguns over the last 30+ years. NEVER had the slightest problem with them. Use a quality scope with them--NO worries.
Hey Paul...I might have one laying around here. If I can find it, I’ll send it your way. My grandpa had it on the 740 my uncle gave me.
Excellent. I have a, new to me, old 760 in .308w that would love to wear it. THANK YOU!
Good luck with those pivot bases. I've never trusted them as far as I could throw them. When I worked at the rifle range, next to $20.00 Tasco scopes, those pivot bases were the biggest culprit for lack of consistent groupings. Especially the older ones. I think the lock plates just didn't do a good job on them.
Late to the party, I've been prepping a bunch of .308 brass.
I'm in Whelen Nuts camp on this one, without a doubt. Same as Whelen Nut I've used them for years on rifles and 12 gauge slug guns, have swung them back and forth and they've always held zero.
Of course, I could see an issue IF the person didn't have the locking screws locked in tightly, but of course, that's about equivalent of not tightening a regular base and rings.
**** Whelen Nut, if Tom doesn't find that base/rings for you, shoot me a PM.
Good luck with those pivot bases. I've never trusted them as far as I could throw them. When I worked at the rifle range, next to $20.00 Tasco scopes, those pivot bases were the biggest culprit for lack of consistent groupings. Especially the older ones. I think the lock plates just didn't do a good job on them.
Late to the party, I've been prepping a bunch of .308 brass.
I'm in Whelen Nuts camp on this one, without a doubt. Same as Whelen Nut I've used them for years on rifles and 12 gauge slug guns, have swung them back and forth and they've always held zero.
Of course, I could see an issue IF the person didn't have the locking screws locked in tightly, but of course, that's about equivalent of not tightening a regular base and rings.
**** Whelen Nut, if Tom doesn't find that base/rings for you, shoot me a PM.
Garry
Garry, thanks for the offer. I'll letchano.
What I always liked about the pivots is when I had to go into a swamp, sometimes after dark, to look for a bear that didn't collapse at the bait. Very handy for that purpose!
I have several Weaver pivot mounts on rifles going back to the mid 1960's. They still work perfectly after who knows how many pivots. One of them set's on a Rem 700 264 mag I bought new in 1964 with which I took my all time best bull elk in 2014.Several on lever actions also. Solid mounts.
I wouldn't use a pivot mount on something I was planning on shooting at deer at 400 yards or on even a rifle I was planning on competing in our local or fun bench rest matches, but for hunting out to 100-200 yard shots I would use one and not look back. From what I've seen in my experience they'll shoot two inch groups at 100 yards pretty regularly. That"s plenty accurate for that>
I have used and still use Weaver pivot bases/rings on at least 20+ rifles and 3" slugguns over the last 30+ years. NEVER had the slightest problem with them. Use a quality scope with them--NO worries.
Hey Paul...I might have one laying around here. If I can find it, I’ll send it your way. My grandpa had it on the 740 my uncle gave me.
Excellent. I have a, new to me, old 760 in .308w that would love to wear it. THANK YOU!
Hey Marc - that's the nicest looking 7600 that I have ever seen. I have heard about them & at first I doubted it. They sure have 'some' of the distinctive features of the M Six. " I " have not seen the 7600 with straight line cut checkering. I also like the ergos of the forend and thin dia of the pistol grip.
Does it have the cartridge head embedded in the receiver ?
i got a medium 8 pointer on the last day this year with my 1965 760 '06 carbine. one shot, one deer. haven't counted but this is probably the 30th deer or so i have gotten with a rem pump over the years. 14's, 141's, 760's and 7600's. mostly carbines.
I have used and still use Weaver pivot bases/rings on at least 20+ rifles and 3" slugguns over the last 30+ years. NEVER had the slightest problem with them. Use a quality scope with them--NO worries.
Hey Paul...I might have one laying around here. If I can find it, I’ll send it your way. My grandpa had it on the 740 my uncle gave me.
Excellent. I have a, new to me, old 760 in .308w that would love to wear it. THANK YOU!
I recently picked up a real clean model six 30-06 at a gun show, the gun shop selling it didn’t know much about saying as he was loading his truck to go the show a guy pulled in wanted to sell six guns so he bought them and through them in the truck. Anyway it appears to have been shot very little , it has a 18.5 inch barrel and everything I have seen said they only came in 22” barrels? Has anyone ever seen one in 18.5 from the factory? The rifle also has a recoil pad that looks factory but most I can find pictures of have a butt plate. Could the gun have been ordered like this or do you think someone had it shortened and added the recoil pad ?
I recently picked up a real clean model six 30-06 at a gun show, the gun shop selling it didn’t know much about saying as he was loading his truck to go the show a guy pulled in wanted to sell six guns so he bought them and through them in the truck. Anyway it appears to have been shot very little , it has a 18.5 inch barrel and everything I have seen said they only came in 22” barrels? Has anyone ever seen one in 18.5 from the factory? The rifle also has a recoil pad that looks factory but most I can find pictures of have a butt plate. Could the gun have been ordered like this or do you think someone had it shortened and added the recoil pad ?
They were made with standard 22 inch barrels and they also made carbine models with 18 & 1/2 in barrels.
I have a 760 pump with an 18 & 1/2 inch barrel bought brand new in 1979.
Some people have shortened the 22 inch barrels, but as far as I know, the 18 & 1/2 inch carbine models from the factory all had "Carbine" stamped on the barrel.
I could be wrong, but as far as I know, no 760, model 6 or 7600 ever came from the factory with a recoil pad on it.
Those Remington pumps are big favorites in the woods of New England. The Benoit boys use them, and favor the carbine models. My brother-in-law in Vermont has one, too.
The Benoits were my childhood hero’s thirty plus years ago ,some people liked sports teams or bands I idolized the Benoits . When I saw this rifle on the table I knew I had to have it , now I need some green plaid wool .....
Probably the biggest doe I've ever killed. That's a 22" Whelen. 225gr Accubond exit from a 75ish yard shot. Like most deer I've shot with that rifle, it was like a lightning bolt hit. That whelen is crazy accurate when I can tolerate the recoil. I've shot several groups well under MOA.
Have a matching style in 280 and a Whelen Carbine. The carbine I setup with a WGRS and a straight comb walnut stock.
My favorite was a 308 BDL. That sucker was stupid accurate and super comfortable. My buddy absolutely had to have it and I needed money and didn't use it much.
I mowed grass all summer long and saved and saved until I was able to tell a family friend with an FFL that I had enough money, $275,It was 7600 in 30/06. At the time I got it I hardly weighed 100lbs and the thing felt like it weighed as much as I did. I couldn't afford a good scope so I did have to wait until the next summer when I got a Vari-XIII 2.5-8x Leupold from the same guy for $165. That first season I hunted without a scope. The very first day I took it to the woods was opening day and that evening killed my first deer with a rifle, a spike buck. That rifle was stolen. I hunted with a left hand 25/06 for several years and the found i had an addiction to Marlin lever action rifles. Many years after my 7600 was stolen I read (on line) that Remington was ceasing production so that convinced me to get another. When I learned that Grice had some made up for them in 35Remington and 35Whelen I decided that I needed one to commemorate my first centerfire rifle. My local FFL had my 35Rem 7600 carbine. (18.5 barrel) I kept it unfired for about a year then sold it to finance something else that I don't even remember. Fast forward>> Summer 2018 I decided I needed another. This time I wanted one with the white line spacers and the impressed "checkering." I had a LH 3 0/06 M77 so I wanted to do something a little different than before and found a late 1980's 35Whelen on an auction site and made it mine. I had taken the scope off of my original 7600 - 30/06 and had it on another rifle when the 7600 was stolen. So I was once again with a Remington 7600 and put my very first scope on it---the Leupold 2.5-8x. I've had it for a couple seasons now but it seems like deja vous---------the first day..... the evening hunt..... a spike buck! I hope that this 7600 and I are together a long, long time
I have a 7600 35 Whelen that’s been a pretty good shooting rifle. Took a couple deer with it two seasons back using the 225 Sierra with H4895 for an even 2700 FPS.
I always wanted to grab that 280 carbine of Bobby’s when he got tired of it. The good thing is now our mutual buddy Matt has it and a few other 280 7600’s so I managed to talk him out of one of the 280’s.
Hanco they feel and handle just like a pump shotgun only more accurate. My favorite is a remington model 14 in 30 rem. Handles and points better than a 94. With the corkscrew magazine you can use spitzer bullets but have to seat them a little deeper.
Rusty Zipper I too have a1905 9x56. I use Speer 200 grain round nose that I swage down to .356 about the best I can do with open sights with my old eyes is about 3" at a100 yards. That's still minute of deer in the wood around here. I traded a remington 750 in 35 Whelen for it. Would like another wheels but won't give up the 1905. Anyone who owns a Mannlicher knows these rifles have a soul.
My first rifle was a 760 308. I have 8 of them. Going to send one to be re- bored and re- chambered to a 358 win. They are extremely popular with the guys I hunt with here in central Pa.
My first rifle was a 760 308. I have 8 of them. Going to send one to be re- bored and re- chambered to a 358 win. They are extremely popular with the guys I hunt with here in central Pa.
Heck...in Pa the Remington 760 is the state flower or pictured on the Pa state flag...or so I've been told.
My first rifle was a 760 308. I have 8 of them. Going to send one to be re- bored and re- chambered to a 358 win. They are extremely popular with the guys I hunt with here in central Pa.
Heck...in Pa the Remington 760 is the state flower or pictured on the Pa state flag...or so I've been told.
Please tell me you don't have Holden Ironsighter mounts on them.......... You're right about that being the weapon of choice in Penn's Woods though.
As the ranch slowly transitioned from horses and saddle guns to pickups and scoped rifles it seemed natural to switch out the Winchesters for the pump '06.
My first was a well worn hand-me-down rifle rack version with Tasco 4x and a cracked stock that had been pinned and a thick coat of polyurethane applied. Slung over my shoulder it'd sometimes drag over an occasional unnoticed volcanic rock that peppered the Big Empty. Of course it didn't fit me; not even close and it kicked me like a sum bitch. That one was when I started to dislike mag boxes because at that that age I was misplacing the dang thing and rummaging around looking for it.
But a few years later I took my money and bought a new one and boy, that was one sweet shooting rifle that I used for everything from coyote control, to tidying up after errant hunters that I guided. There's not a lick of bluing left on that one.
I've been trying to find one in .35 Whelen for several year. They are scarce down here in AL. My pops killed many a deer with on in .284 that had an old school fix powered Redfield Lee Dot scope on it.
MS9x56 you have good taste in rifles and much class. The gun, the caliber, minute of deer requirements. It all tells a lot about a guy. A better hunter gets closer and doesn't see from how far away he can shoot an animal that deserves a quick death. Have a good one and Be Well, Rustyzipper.
MS9x56 you have good taste in rifles and much class. The gun, the caliber, minute of deer requirements. It all tells a lot about a guy. A better hunter gets closer and doesn't see from how far away he can shoot an animal that deserves a quick death. Have a good one and Be Well, Rustyzipper.
Does 12' qualify me for a 'better hunter' ?
Well then, 402 yards does TOO. That is as CLOSE as I could get ! harummp !
They are (or were) popular in the Adirondacks of NY. My father had a 760A in 30-06 that he purchased in 1953. When he stopped deer hunting due to heath issues, he gave it to me. He passed away last July at the age of 92 and in the fall I used it to take a 6 pt. I have several deer rifles and rarely used it but every deer I've taken with it never went very far. It was always been accurate enough for Whitetails in the close cover that he hunted. I think it is now retired.
Add another 760 fan to the mix. I got my 30-06 back in 2006 while stationed in Germany. I killed a roe deer, pigs, and a fox with it. I gave it to my dad when I returned and he added a pad and a trigger job. It shoots very well and the kick doesn't seems as bad now.
I've posted this elsewhere, but since it is a pump.... Just got this 141 this week, along with the model 81 (in .32 Rem). Hope to get them both in the woods come fall.
I have a nephew that has a Rem pump in 270. He is deadly with it and I sure don't want him shooting at me with it. He regularly takes mulies, pronghorns and elk back in my native CO.
This is my first year production Remington 760 pump in 30-06, manufactured March of 1952.
Not a great picture, lousy day here and just not quite dark enough for the flash to go off.
I had a Bushnell scope on it and wasn't really happy with it, and I ran across an old school El Paso Weaver V4.5 from the 70's and mounted it in old school weaver rings. No Weaver pivot rings for this gun as the rear sight is missing, that's how I got it Bore sighted the gun and brought the barrel down to bare steel with JB Bore Paste so it's ready for Dyna Bore .
Now if our communist governor would open up the ranges I could sight it in and work up a load for it. Gun is pretty clean and in excellent condition for it's age, schit, it's only 6 months younger than I am.
I've added a couple trombones in the past year. First was a left hand 760 BDL .30-06 complete with see thru mounts, and then a Savage 170C .30-30 followed me home from Cabelas for cheap. Since I already own several .30-06s and .30-30s, one or both may get sent to JES for a larger diameter bore .
My first center fire rifle was a 7600 in the ever able 30/06. It was bought after mowing lawns most of the summer of 1983. We had a family friend that did sporting goods sales and he enjoyed helping folks out with the best price he could give. Mine , I think, was sold to me for the price that it cost him. If memory serves me right it was $265. I didn't have money for a scope that year but things worked out just fine anyhow because I killed a spike buck the very first day I hunted with it. That rifle was stolen from me several years later when I loaned to a friend. As hard as it is for me to believe, that was over 20 years ago. About four or five years ago I finally decided to replace it. But instead of the 30/06 I chose one of its of its offspring the 35 Whelen. I've only hunted it a very few times but the first hunt in the Fall of 2018 I killed a spike buck. It brought back memories of that first 7600 and the kid that hunted it back then. I never intend to be without one again. I can see me and the 35 Whelen becoming very good friends. I would like to find either a 243 or 308 and have it re-bored to one of the best cartridges to ever wear the Winchester name, the 358 Win. I came close once when I bought one of Grice's limited run in 35 Remington. It was the carbine version with an 18.5" Barrel. I kept about a year without firing it and sold it at a gun show for what I had given for it. Someday, if the world doesn't all die from the Covid 19 virus, I'd love to run down a 760 in 35 Remington and maybe keep it that grand old cartridge. No need for a 760 in 35 Rem and another in 358 but I guess "need" has little to do with it...
Posted pics of a couple of my Remington 14R & 141R carbines in the Image Gallery if someone would like to take a look at them and maybe move them over to this thread.
Posted pics of a couple of my Remington 14R & 141R carbines in the Image Gallery if someone would like to take a look at them and maybe move them over to this thread.
May have posted this before; it's been awhile. 7600 in .30-06 with a Zeiss 4x on top. Look closely and you'll see the impressed checkering has been re-cut; a really nice upgrade. Bob
May have posted this before; it's been awhile. 7600 in .30-06 with a Zeiss 4x on top. Look closely and you'll see the impressed checkering has been re-cut; a really nice upgrade. Bob
I like 760s and have had few .I look at them often on gb .I want to get a basket weave one I like the looks of them.
I like the raised cheekpiece on the 760 BDLs with the basket weave "checkering", but the forearms have a flat bottom, almost beavertail style, forearm that feels realy bulky in my left hand.
Speaking of the 257 Roberts, a buddy texted me this morning that the Scheel's store in Omaha has a 90%+ Remington 760 in their used guns rack priced at $400. He reports that it is original, except that the rear sight was replaced with a correct period Marble's unit, no extra holes or recoil pad. He reports that there is some light, very light, freckling on the top of the receiver and that the plug screws look untouched, so probably there from carrying it with a sweaty hand. It is the standard, ADL, style with plain wood and a grooved forearm. He didn't look at the bore, but said that the SN is 2141xx and the assembly code is either PA or AP, He said that he hadn't seen as nice a 760 in 257 Roberts for a decade or more and would have bought it if he hadn't just paid for college for 3 of his 6 kids.
Add me to the list of 760/7600 fans. I approached mine from a different direction, a handy ranch/mountain rifle for here in New Mexico. As I'm a southpaw with lots of trigger time on pump shotguns, a pump rifle was a natural solution to my need for a rifle with more reach than my AR carbine. Flatter trajectory made .270 a natural choice. With minor Dremel/file modifications to the stock, the 7600 will accept a Magpul shotgun stock. I mainly mounted that stock for the grip angle and adjustable LOP; I like pistol grips but the SGA snags less. Optic is a VX-Freedom AR 1.5-4x. I tend to carry this rifle when out prospecting. It hasn't gone hunting yet; it'll come along next time I'm helping a rancher friend call coyotes.
Out on BLM land in northern NM.
Matching most other experiences here, mine is a shooter. This 3-shot group was at 275 yards with 130-grain Federal Power-Shok. This rifle HATES 150-grain Power-Points; the result is fist-sized patterns at 100 yards. 130-grain Power-Points did better; it may be a matter of slow barrel twist.
Mine is the only one of its kind most of my buddies out here have seen. A friend from Missouri believes his dad had one, and I may have seen one or two at gun shows when I lived there. It's been well-received, and I used it in a bit of "outlaw 3-gun"-type fun out in the desert with excellent results. The darned thing just hits what I aim at.
"Add me to the list of 760/7600 fans. I approached mine from a different direction, a handy ranch/mountain rifle for here in New Mexico. As I'm a southpaw with lots of trigger time on pump shotguns, a pump rifle was a natural solution to my need for a rifle with more reach than my AR carbine. Flatter trajectory made .270 a natural choice. With minor Dremel/file modifications to the stock,"
You are certainly right about a natural solution. I've posted this pix much earlier in this thread but didn't take the time to find it.
Nice rig. I suggest slathering your rifle with Eezox for rust resistance. I my experience Remington's matte finish seems to rust easily.
Thanks for the suggestion, I just ordered a bottle. I've been using Breakfree CLP and the results on this particular finish haven't been great. The date code on my 7600 is May of either 2004 or 2007 depending on which reference site I use, which puts it before the serious dip in quality that came with the Freedom Group acquisition.
Nice rig. I suggest slathering your rifle with Eezox for rust resistance. I my experience Remington's matte finish seems to rust easily.
Thanks for the suggestion, I just ordered a bottle. I've been using Breakfree CLP and the results on this particular finish haven't been great. The date code on my 7600 is May of either 2004 or 2007 depending on which reference site I use, which puts it before the serious dip in quality that came with the Freedom Group acquisition.
I used CLP for years until I tried Eezox.
Eezox is MUCH better in every way that I can think of. Even smells nicer!
You are certainly right about a natural solution. I've posted this pix much earlier in this thread but didn't take the time to find it.
I like the Rem Model Six: 06, 270 (2), & 6mm Rem.
That is a very nice collection! To my understanding, a 6mm Model Six is a very rare breed indeed! I can't bring myself to let a rifle with beautiful bluing get banged up in the field, so my matte/synthetics get the most use by far.
I've been exceptionally happy with .270 thus far. It's the only full-power rifle I own; my others are 5.56 and .30-30.
That is a very nice collection! To my understanding, a 6mm Model Six is a very rare breed indeed! I can't bring myself to let a rifle with beautiful bluing get banged up in the field, so my matte/synthetics get the most use by far.
Thank You.
Yes the Model in Six in 6mm is one of only +/- 1000 made. Whelen Nut here from Wis (SKane's Dad) looked up the #s .
The second from bottom is my FIRST M Six and has been hunted many years. Remington's RKW finish is very protective. That rifle belongs to my Son after I inherited my Dad's.... both 270s.
The top one is 6mm Rem and it went to work as soon as I bought it....during Deer Season. They hold up very well.
ATST I have several B A in SS or Blue IN Synthetic. Don't be afraid to hunt the Hard Finished 7600s or Sixes.
Wondering if a new tube/actionbar could convert my old 760 to 7600 forend
'OLD' is the operative word. The really older 760s had the action tube extending above the end of the fore end. I don't have a pic, but I remember what they looked like.
He's asking IF or HOW to get a 7600 fore end to fit his OLD 760.
Stated earlier that I have a 7600 carbine that I will be using this year. That rifle will be gone as soon as I can find an affordable, decent 35 Remington.
Stated earlier that I have a 7600 carbine that I will be using this year. That rifle will be gone as soon as I can find an affordable, decent 35 Remington.
Lmk when you want to send that carbine up the road.
Stated earlier that I have a 7600 carbine that I will be using this year. That rifle will be gone as soon as I can find an affordable, decent 35 Remington.
Don't want to hurt you feelers. Diff Strokes sort of thing.
I would NOT take 2, 35 rem for 1 7600, carbine or not.
Stated earlier that I have a 7600 carbine that I will be using this year. That rifle will be gone as soon as I can find an affordable, decent 35 Remington.
Don't want to hurt you feelers. Diff Strokes sort of thing.
I would NOT take 2, 35 rem for 1 7600, carbine or not.
Jerry
Not hurting my feelings at all but why is that?. A 50 yard shot is downright long range where and how I hunt. I was figuring far less recoil and the 35 will do anything I want out of a pump rifle. But I am always open to suggestions.
Stated earlier that I have a 7600 carbine that I will be using this year. That rifle will be gone as soon as I can find an affordable, decent 35 Remington.
Don't want to hurt you feelers. Diff Strokes sort of thing.
I would NOT take 2, 35 rem for 1 7600, carbine or not.
First, I'm glad your feelings are not hurt. That was NOT my intention.
I didn't go back to see IF you said what 'caliber' your carbine is. I also don't recall WHICH lever 35 you're looking for.
On the subject of 'range', I've killed deer at 12' (feet) with a 700 BDL 7 RM, so that's moot to me.
AS you know, $$$ of ALL rifles have gone thru the roof. As with anything else, anything is worth what 'someone' will pay.
My Model Six in 06 is lighter than the 6mm or 270s.....SO I'd expect your carbine in 06 or 308 will NOT be heavy.
On the subject of levers... 94 or 336........... 336 is the only 1 I'd consider and it is HEAVY. I prefer light but IMO the 'older' 336s are much better made.
So you see, there are several factors FOR ME on the subject, not just one.
ATST I've stated repeatedly that "As Long As Anyone Is Happy With Their Rifle...That's All That Matters".
I hope I've answered your ? and I appreciate your attitude about my statement.
[quote=JDK]Stated earlier that I have a 7600 carbine that I will be using this year. That rifle will be gone as soon as I can find an affordable, decent 35 Remington.
Don't want to hurt you feelers. Diff Strokes sort of thing.
I would NOT take 2, 35 rem for 1 7600, carbine or not.
Jerry
What about a 7600 35 Rem Carbine? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
First, I'm glad your feelings are not hurt. That was NOT my intention.
I didn't go back to see IF you said what 'caliber' your carbine is. I also don't recall WHICH lever 35 you're looking for.
On the subject of 'range', I've killed deer at 12' (feet) with a 700 BDL 7 RM, so that's moot to me.
AS you know, $$$ of ALL rifles have gone thru the roof. As with anything else, anything is worth what 'someone' will pay.
My Model Six in 06 is lighter than the 6mm or 270s.....SO I'd expect your carbine in 06 or 308 will NOT be heavy.
On the subject of levers... 94 or 336........... 336 is the only 1 I'd consider and it is HEAVY. I prefer light but IMO the 'older' 336s are much better made.
So you see, there are several factors FOR ME on the subject, not just one.
ATST I've stated repeatedly that "As Long As Anyone Is Happy With Their Rifle...That's All That Matters".
I hope I've answered your ? and I appreciate your attitude about my statement.
Good Luck, whatever decision you make.
Jerry
Thank you and I wouldn't have asked if I didn't want to hear your opinion.
Just to clarify, I'm not looking for a 35 Remington in a lever action as I have 2 already. One will be my grandson's rifle when he is old enough to hunt.
I'm looking for a 760 or 7600 chambered in 35 Remington.
My current 7600 carbine is a 30-06 and it is heavier than the bolt actions that I currently use. MY 7600 only shoots 180 gr bullets well and the recoil is quite stiff for a dedicated deer and black bear rifle. You will never, ever, hear me say anything bad about the 06, but I find it needlessly heavy for what I do. It is however a very handy rifle.
Wanted a Grice but a bud got a couple old style 760s in .35 rem and I shot one. 3 shots into a 50 cal hole at 25yds off my elbows w junk scope....i thought it had potential so bought it. LOL
Still want a Grice but it wont kill deer deader than the one I have.
Whelennut that 243 can be bored by JES to 358 Winchester. But according to gunzwizzzz it probably won't break the target paper past 100 yards. Be Well, RZ.
I thought Grice did a rin of rifle and carbine 7600s in .35 rem.
Matte/ synth.
Not too far away last yr a guy had a blued/ walnut 7600 in .35 rem. Minty. Was not cheap.
They did a run of synthetic and blued and walnut. They used to do a run on 7600's every year. I had one of those 35 remington's in my hands. Didn't buy it.
Daisy model 25. I had one. I think I saw some used for sale at Airguns of Arizona. If not look at the other large airgun stores. Maybe Utah Airguns or some others. Good luck. Be Well, RZ.
I thought Grice did a run of rifle and carbine 7600s in .35 rem.
Matte/ synth.
Not too far away last yr a guy had a blued/ walnut 7600 in .35 rem. Minty. Was not cheap.
ya they did them a couple times. blued walnut and synthetic matte. i bought the blued/walnut when they came out for 500 bucks. i have seen them go over 2 grand now. i think the 760/7600 carbine is ideal for PA woods. i have them in '06, 35 rem and 35 whelen and they get used regularly.
The 760 BDL Deluxe was introduced in 1966 and had Basket Weave checkering straight through till 1979, after which it became the Model 6. The only difference in the ADL versus the BDL deluxe was the basket weave checkering, so Remington put the hump on to be able to identify that the barreled action was a BDL deluxe because other than that there is no difference. If on yahoo search you google "remington 760 basket" you will get many images and all the images with the basket weave checkering on the stocks have the hump on the receiver.
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
i use RN corelokt 200's in my pump 35 rems. the hornady plastic ones work good too. i tried a box of 150's years ago in one and they did not shoot well. for my 30 cal pumps i usually use SP 165 in 06 and 150 in 308. the whelen gets 200 SP's. the 270 gets 130 SP's.
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
I use round nose bullets in my 30-30 and 35 REM pump guns unless I'm shooting Hornady LeverEvolution factory loads.
When I lived in NH back in the late 1980s I used 170 grain RNCL 30-30 bullets in a Remington 760 in 300 Savage that I hunted with back then.
I use pointed bullets in my 270 and 30-06 pump guns, Winchester/Olin PowerMax bonded in the 270 and Remington PCL in the 30-06.
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
I need to work up a load for my 760 Carbine 308. If the 180gr RNs I have down there shoot well, I will be more than happy to use them in that rifle.
Just checked zero on my 7600. Still under an inch with 180 core locks. I have killed a cattle car full of deer with that rifle. Carried it over to Birdsongs a few years ago. Some of the best money I ever spent. Highly recommend them. Patrick
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
I like them. I used them in my 7x57 and sometimes in my .280. I might load up some for my .280. I have a pretty good pile of 7mm 154gr RN I got from our buddy Grizzy Bill.
I used 180 round nose core locks until I couldn't find them one year and went with regular SP. Haven't noticed any difference in feeding or terminal performance. Patrick
I used 180 round nose core locks until I couldn't find them one year and went with regular SP.
**** Haven't noticed any difference in feeding or terminal performance. Patrick
YEP ! I bought my first reloading set up in 1974, RCBS Jr....My son has it today and it works. ?somewhere after '86, I bought the Rockchucker I have now.
SO... I've read all the 'supposedly' advantages of R N bullets opening up quicker, etc. etc..
Since 1974 - 46 yrs - I have NEVER bought 1 box of R N bullets for anything. *NOTE* I have NOT loaded for any tubular mag rifle **
I've killed W T from 12' down as in from 12' Hi DOWN to the ground and about every distance -- 100 yds---400 yds. I've never found the 'Spitzer' (spritzer grin), Spire Point or otherwise pointed bullet to be lacking in expansion.
I have a Remington model 14 in 30 Remington that I enjoy still hunting with. I generally use 150 grain round nose for deer and 170 grain round nose for wild hogs. Has a Redfield peep sight on it. Don't use a sling as it spoils the perfect balance of this 100 year old classic.
I have a Remington model 14 in 30 Remington that I enjoy still hunting with. I generally use 150 grain round nose for deer and 170 grain round nose for wild hogs. Has a Redfield peep sight on it. Don't use a sling as it spoils the perfect balance of this 100 year old classic.
There is certainly something to be said for a handy peep-sighted woods rifle!
I bought this 760 30-06 the year High Brass was born. He loved this rifle. I got this buck (my best) the year we lost him. He mounted the 2.5x8 on it. He had a post & duplex reticle installed.
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
I load 180 grain Hornady RN in my 7600 30-06 Carbine. For me,the reason isn't expansion or feeding, I just think they look "right" in a pump gun. And they shoot plenty accurate too. Maybe I'll take it for a walk tomorrow.
My pump is a 308. I usually use round nose core lokts or 180 round nose hornadys. I was wondering how many of you guys use round nose bullets in your rifle?
I load 180 grain Hornady RN in my 7600 30-06 Carbine. For me,the reason isn't expansion or feeding, I just think they look "right" in a pump gun. And they shoot plenty accurate too. Maybe I'll take it for a walk tomorrow.
I think they look cool too. They work really well at woods ranges too.
180 gr corelockt round nose worked this morning. I use them for 3 reasons: I haven't got into handloading yet. They're what Larry Benoit used. And I once read in Jack O'Connor somewhere about experiments he did shooting through brush. he found blunter bullets were less effected by brush. His theory was that with more mass on the edge of the circumference than pointy bullets they are more stable (the same reason nails don't make good tops). They're also, very accurate out of my gun.
Thanks. I rasped down the original which was the raised comb one. I wanted it to point like a shotgun and I've always liked straight grips. I got it so it fit me perfectly and my eye was right behind the peep super fast. But my eyes arent what they were when I was in my twenties so I scoped it. Not quite as fast and too heavy and doesnt carry as well in one hand but I like it.
Yeah, I bought it new in 1999 and I've carried it many many miles. The forend used to match the butt I had some vertical grip grooves whittled into it but broke it falling down some steep stuff.
Tell about the scope/scope mount. They're pretty far forward, looks like a pump action scout rifle. Also, what did you do to the safety? An oversize safety is a definite asset to a 760/7600/870, etc., etc.
Thanks. I rasped down the original which was the raised comb one. I wanted it to point like a shotgun and I've always liked straight grips. I got it so it fit me perfectly and my eye was right behind the peep super fast. But my eyes arent what they were when I was in my twenties so I scoped it. Not quite as fast and too heavy and doesnt carry as well in one hand but I like it.
Tell about the scope/scope mount. They're pretty far forward, looks like a pump action scout rifle. Also, what did you do to the safety? An oversize safety is a definite asset to a 760/7600/870, etc., etc.
Here it is with a 2x Bushnell pistol scope. The mount is by Bullseye Pro and it's awesome. As sold it uses the front and rear scope mount holes and the front sight holes. I cut it back so I could still use the Williams peep. With the pistol scope it's light and fast, I actually like it better than the big scope in many ways. But, the big scope which is a Leupold VXR scout is awesome in the low light. And sometimes a little more magnification is nice. It's a deadly set up for sure. I really am a believer in the Scout scope. It is much faster on target, at least for me. The pistol scope has more eye relief and is even faster. But, I've been sitting a bit lately and the Leupold is so sweet for that.
Shot with his grandpa’s Remington 7600, 30-06 pump. 150gr bullets.
Awesome !!!! Tell your son congrats on a fine first buck. And with Grandpa's rifle, doesn't get any better than that.
Nothing like a Remington pump rifle as far as I am concerned, although I must admit I'm being a bit of a traitor to my pump rifles right now as I am upstate NY hunting with my 7400 Jam O Matic.
just fired my 7600 carbines in whelen and 35 rem. they are ridiculously accurate. on my 50 yard range they are both one holers. the whelen will be out on saturday but monday looks like rain so i'll be taking my ruger frontier 338 fed. the 35 rem will most likely be the last weeks gun.
Pennsylvania was good to me on their first Sunday rifle hunt ever. I managed to talk member Swag out of this 1968 carbine in 308 about 2 years ago. I finally got to blood it yesterday.
Pennsylvania was good to me on their first Sunday rifle hunt ever. I managed to talk member Swag out of this 1968 carbine in 308 about 2 years ago. I finally got to blood it yesterday.
Pennsylvania was good to me on their first Sunday rifle hunt ever. I managed to talk member Swag out of this 1968 carbine in 308 about 2 years ago. I finally got to blood it yesterday.
Pennsylvania was good to me on their first Sunday rifle hunt ever. I managed to talk member Swag out of this 1968 carbine in 308 about 2 years ago. I finally got to blood it yesterday.
What are the 760, 300 Sav worth? I found a well used one at a LGS for $300.
And an absolutely mint 760 30-06 that I might pick up.
Depends where ya at. Here in Pa the "amish machine gun" in any caliber gets a good price with the "odd" caliber ones being a good bit higher. Provided the bore was good and metal not rusty, Id likely not hesitate togive 3 bills for a 300 savage. About 10 years ago I gave 800 total for good condition 35 Whelen and 280 7600s. 2 years ago sold a limited edition blonde maple 7-08 and blue laminate 25-06 both LNIB to a guy for 1400....think I had 8 or 9 total in the 2 of them
The .300 is WELL used. Not much blueing left, but no rust actually. Somebody liked the gun, but wasn’t afraid to use it.
That 06 on the other hand is quite amazing and worth every penny of the asking price.
Being that its a 300 savage, Id jump on it provided the bore looks good. I am however a sucker for the more rare 760/7600 chamberings. Im with the other guy....buy both!
I’d like to. Being this close to a Christmas, I’ll hold off a bit.
I understand that. They both sound cool.
I don't care for the fore-end on the 3006. It looks like a Rem Mod 870 express stock. It's not, but it's similar. If they still have them after Christmas, They'll both come home.
I don't care for the fore-end on the 3006. It looks like a Rem Mod 870 express stock. It's not, but it's similar. If they still have them after Christmas, They'll both come home.
My first big game rifle came to me when I was 12. It was an old 760 in 300 Savage that belong to an uncle that died. The gun survived an avalanche and was dug out of the debris. I traded it for a new model 600. Will not forgive my father for not stopping me.
Great price, gun looks to be in excellent condition.
Is "Carbine" stamped on the barrel or is it a cut down 22 inch barrel? Either way you did good, and if the barrel is marked "Carbine", despite the 30-06 being the most common carbine produced, you stole it !!!!
I'd dump the see thru mounts and get an old Weaver Pivot mount setup with low rings and a 1.5X4.5 or 5 scope, I think you'd like it a lot better.
Weaver pivot mount base is # 193 for that gun, they show up occasionally on Fleabay and low pivot rings for that base are fairly common there also.
Killed a buck this year with a 7600 carbine (06) and 150 Fusions. Tucked one in the crease behind his shoulder and he went 30 yards. Blood trail was impressive, damage about what was to be expected.
You paid a bit less than average for what I'm seeing around here. Put it this way...I'd have bought it at that "buy it now" price as well. You did well for yourself.
Great price, gun looks to be in excellent condition.
Is "Carbine" stamped on the barrel or is it a cut down 22 inch barrel? Either way you did good, and if the barrel is marked "Carbine", despite the 30-06 being the most common carbine produced, you stole it !!!!
I'd dump the see thru mounts and get an old Weaver Pivot mount setup with low rings and a 1.5X4.5 or 5 scope, I think you'd like it a lot better.
Weaver pivot mount base is # 193 for that gun, they show up occasionally on Fleabay and low pivot rings for that base are fairly common there also.
I'd skip all that weaver tip off mount crap on the 7600. The stock isn't set up for it. I'd also pitch that bushlight scope and see throughs. Leupold base/ring combo and a VX3i 2.5-8x36 on there and you'll rule the woods.
Well I guess I don't need to worry about it. It was a pure scam. seller emailed me as soon as it ended saying he wanted to change the type of payment and gave a different address and phone # than what was on GB. A guy called me this morning saying he was Lauri with a real thick Asian accent. I asked him to text me a copy of his DL for the FFL and got no response. I thought it was too good to be true. The seller's account has already been revoked but thought I'd warn you guys to be on the look out for that one.
" I'd skip all that weaver tip off mount crap on the 7600. The stock isn't set up for it. I'd also pitch that bushlight scope and see throughs. Leupold base/ring combo and a VX3i 2.5-8x36 on there and you'll rule the woods". [/quote]
" I'd skip all that weaver tip off mount crap on the 7600. The stock isn't set up for it. I'd also pitch that bushlight scope and see throughs. Leupold base/ring combo and a VX3i 2.5-8x36 on there and you'll rule the woods".
I recently sold 6 Remington 760 rifles in 30-06, like the one that RGK posted a picture of, that I paid about $2,600 for to a dealer in ME for $5,200. I just wanted to double my money and he said that he could sell them for at least $1K each. After he received them, he called and said that he would buy any more that I could find in 270, 308, or 30-06 for the same $867 price.
Since nobody knows what will happen with Remington, it appears that some people who want Remington pump guns are willing to over-pay for them to insure that they have one if the new/current Remington owners doesn't make them again.
Been following this thread off and on for years. Finally have a pump rifle and deer picture to show. 7600 carbine in 30-06 . 3.5-10 leupold and 150 gr Nosler Partition handloads. Little public land spike but he eats well. 😁
I don’t understand that site. Check local gun shops. More realistic.
True, but rifles in the 760 series are more common in some geographic parts of the U.S. than others. Whereas they were as common as dirt in northern New England when I lived there, in the 30+ years that I've lived in KS and NE I doubt that I've seen more than 200 different ones in gun shops and maybe another200 or so at modest sized gun shows. Remington 740/742 series rifles seem to be much more common here than their manually operated kin.
Been following this thread off and on for years. Finally have a pump rifle and deer picture to show. 7600 carbine in 30-06 . 3.5-10 leupold and 150 gr Nosler Partition handloads. Little public land spike but he eats well. 😁
Congrats - How do you like the 7600 ? Obviously - it works - grin
Been following this thread off and on for years. Finally have a pump rifle and deer picture to show. 7600 carbine in 30-06 . 3.5-10 leupold and 150 gr Nosler Partition handloads. Little public land spike but he eats well. 😁
Congrats - How do you like the 7600 ? Obviously - it works - grin
How many trout would = that deer ? LOL
Jerry
I love the 7600. Growing up one of my uncles used a 760 carbine so i finally decided to pick one up. Luckily just before prices went crazy on them. And it would take quite a few trout at least the size i usually catch
that looks like a mid-60's gun. i have one like it in '06. from the varnish on the side of butt plate, it looks to be original finish too. looks like aftermarket uncle mikes sling swivels. the carbines are handy guns for sure.
I have seen a few like yours but not many. I was wondering when they were from. There is one in a LGS that is in really nice condition, though I can't recall the price.
Did not realize they made the 760 with that checker pattern on the forearm/pistol grip.
I have the same checker pattern on one of my 760's. Date code puts my gun at 1965.
Mine has the pump tube that isn't threaded at the end to accept the Uncle Mikes swivel stud that yours has, mine requires the barrel band stud. I believe they changed to the pump tube style you have in 1968.
I wish I had a barrel band and not the stud on the end of the forearm.
I agree with you fully.
I have a 760 1971 vintage in 270 that has the stud in the forearm tube, I can't stand it. It's the Deluxe BDL version with basket weave checkering.
Unfortunately Remington is shut down now so you can't get the original replacement screw from them.
Barrel bands are still available, but as far as the original screw I guess you's have to put an add here, or look on Gunbroker. I checked Numrich(Gun Parts Corp.), they don't have it.
Well I'll be dipped...Fell into a 7600 .35 Whalen last night after work. Went in to look at a really nice 760 I've had my eye on for a few months. The shop had about 5 760's of various quality, and 2 new 7600's, just a few weeks ago. I swung in yesterday to find them all gone. Counter guy asked if he could help and we got to talking about how fast they disappeared. He said I got one on trade today that I haven't put out yet.
He brings out a hellova nice 7600. I was ready to buy it anyway because I wanted a 30-06 and assumed it was chambered as such. He said, "it may be tough to sell because it's a 35 Whelen." I told him "it won't be too tough, I'll take it."
I can't imagine it's been fired much, if at all. No swivels have been installed and the factory scope mount plug screws are still in it. It is one of the dumbass J-lock models but I think that can be fixed right?
Well I'll be dipped...Fell into a 7600 .35 Whalen last night after work. Went in to look at a really nice 760 I've had my eye on for a few months. The shop had about 5 760's of various quality, and 2 new 7600's, just a few weeks ago. I swung in yesterday to find them all gone. Counter guy asked if he could help and we got to talking about how fast they disappeared. He said I got one on trade today that I haven't put out yet.
He brings out a hellova nice 7600. I was ready to buy it anyway because I wanted a 30-06 and assumed it was chambered as such. He said, "it may be tough to sell because it's a 35 Whelen." I told him "it won't be too tough, I'll take it."
I can't imagine it's been fired much, if at all. No swivels have been installed and the factory scope mount plug screws are still in it. It is one of the dumbass J-lock models but I think that can be fixed right?
Well I'll be dipped...Fell into a 7600 .35 Whalen last night after work. Went in to look at a really nice 760 I've had my eye on for a few months. The shop had about 5 760's of various quality, and 2 new 7600's, just a few weeks ago. I swung in yesterday to find them all gone. Counter guy asked if he could help and we got to talking about how fast they disappeared. He said I got one on trade today that I haven't put out yet.
He brings out a hellova nice 7600. I was ready to buy it anyway because I wanted a 30-06 and assumed it was chambered as such. He said, "it may be tough to sell because it's a 35 Whelen." I told him "it won't be too tough, I'll take it."
I can't imagine it's been fired much, if at all. No swivels have been installed and the factory scope mount plug screws are still in it. It is one of the dumbass J-lock models but I think that can be fixed right?
I had one when I was in Kodiak. It's not too uncomfortable. Mine was just stupid accurate with factory ammo and the few handloads I tried. The Factory 225 Trophy Bonded Bear Claw was a serious penetrator on deer. In front left shoulder and out right ham.
Anyone know where I can find a 30-06 magazine for $50 or less? I finally found the 1968 version I was looking for but it came without the magazine. Any help would be appreciated.
My '63 has a 35 rem marked mag. Got a newer.243 mag as a spare, works fine (contrary to what was stated on a couple forums).
LOL
I had much better luck with my 35 760 using a 30-06 style mag than I did the 35 or short action ones. I'm not sure why but it worked better. A lot better.
Well I'll be dipped...Fell into a 7600 .35 Whalen last night after work. Went in to look at a really nice 760 I've had my eye on for a few months. The shop had about 5 760's of various quality, and 2 new 7600's, just a few weeks ago. I swung in yesterday to find them all gone. Counter guy asked if he could help and we got to talking about how fast they disappeared. He said I got one on trade today that I haven't put out yet.
He brings out a hellova nice 7600. I was ready to buy it anyway because I wanted a 30-06 and assumed it was chambered as such. He said, "it may be tough to sell because it's a 35 Whelen." I told him "it won't be too tough, I'll take it."
I can't imagine it's been fired much, if at all. No swivels have been installed and the factory scope mount plug screws are still in it. It is one of the dumbass J-lock models but I think that can be fixed right?
The phrase, "like a pig in [bleep]" comes to mind. Good snag!
My '63 has a 35 rem marked mag. Got a newer.243 mag as a spare, works fine (contrary to what was stated on a couple forums).
LOL
I had much better luck with my 35 760 using a 30-06 style mag than I did the 35 or short action ones. I'm not sure why but it worked better. A lot better.
Mines flawless w the orig or the .243 mag. Slow or fast, doesn't matter..........no hiccup
My ex father in law used to have a 7600 in 243. He had 3 mag and one of those was always binding up.
I kept telling him to toss that fugger or mark it so he wasn't trying to hunt with it.
He had a nice buck come slipping through one morning, missed the first shot and never got a follow up, his nice little 7600 slide action repeater had become a single shot.
I met up w him on the pond dam and told him the best place for that mag was in the pond. All I got was a dumb look.
Well I'll be dipped...Fell into a 7600 .35 Whalen last night after work. Went in to look at a really nice 760 I've had my eye on for a few months. The shop had about 5 760's of various quality, and 2 new 7600's, just a few weeks ago. I swung in yesterday to find them all gone. Counter guy asked if he could help and we got to talking about how fast they disappeared. He said I got one on trade today that I haven't put out yet.
He brings out a hellova nice 7600. I was ready to buy it anyway because I wanted a 30-06 and assumed it was chambered as such. He said, "it may be tough to sell because it's a 35 Whelen." I told him "it won't be too tough, I'll take it."
I can't imagine it's been fired much, if at all. No swivels have been installed and the factory scope mount plug screws are still in it. It is one of the dumbass J-lock models but I think that can be fixed right?
The phrase, "like a pig in [bleep]" comes to mind. Good snag!
I know that ‘some’ of the 760 - 7600s fore ends rattle BUT I have 4 mod Sixes and have had several earlier ones and know several guys that had them in the past.
I know that ‘some’ of the 760 - 7600s fore ends rattle BUT I have 4 mod Sixes and have had several earlier ones and know several guys that had them in the past.
I have never been around 1 that rattled.
Jerry
I had a bit of rattle on mine, seemed to be caused by the forend screw not holding when torqued. I shimmed the inside of the forend with duct tape and the rattle went away.
I’m looking for a 760 or 7600 carbine in .30-06 or 308 if anyone knows where one is. I had one and sold it and now I want to get another and hold on to it. It is the perfect woods gun to me.
I’m looking for a 760 or 7600 carbine in .30-06 or 308 if anyone knows where one is. I had one and sold it and now I want to get another and hold on to it. It is the perfect woods gun to me.
It would probably be less costly to buy a rifle and have the barrel cut to whatever length less than 22" works best for you.
I’m looking for a 760 or 7600 carbine in .30-06 or 308 if anyone knows where one is. I had one and sold it and now I want to get another and hold on to it. It is the perfect woods gun to me.
I’m looking for a 760 or 7600 carbine in .30-06 or 308 if anyone knows where one is. I had one and sold it and now I want to get another and hold on to it. It is the perfect woods gun to me.
It would probably be less costly to buy a rifle and have the barrel cut to whatever length less than 22" works best for you.
This is the logical way to do it if you want a handy rifle rather than a handy rifle that's also a collectible.
I’m looking for a 760 or 7600 carbine in .30-06 or 308 if anyone knows where one is. I had one and sold it and now I want to get another and hold on to it. It is the perfect woods gun to me.
That’s gonna cost ya.
+1 on that.
I have a line on a 760 Carbine in .308 but it's going to cost me dearly. I'll know for sure in a few days hopefully. I have a 760 Carbine in 30-06 that I purchased new in 1979, looking for it's twin in .308.
I have a line on a 760 Carbine in .308 but it's going to cost me dearly. I'll know for sure in a few days hopefully. I have a 760 Carbine in 30-06 that I purchased new in 1979, looking for it's twin in .308.
Sealed the deal on the .308 Carbine today but it will take a few days to get it as NICS is way backed up here with the gun buying frenzy that's going on.
Paid dearly for it as it was the personal gun of a local gunshop owner and he knew what he had, but it was worth it to me. And frankly the ones I've seen sold on Gunbroker(if the sales actually went through) have sold for a good bit more than I paid.
its funny what chopping 4 inches off a barrel does for a gun. i love the 760/7600 carbines. i sold all but 1 of my rifles and its the first one i ever bought and has a lot of sentimental value. they go for ridiculous money anymore, even the '06, which is pretty common. i always wanted to find one of the 760 carbines in 35 remington sitting neglected in a gunstore rack. but with gunbroker, those days are gone. last one i saw sell on there was around 5 grand.
its funny what chopping 4 inches off a barrel does for a gun. i love the 760/7600 carbines. i sold all but 1 of my rifles and its the first one i ever bought and has a lot of sentimental value. they go for ridiculous money anymore, even the '06, which is pretty common. i always wanted to find one of the 760 carbines in 35 remington sitting neglected in a gunstore rack. but with gunbroker, those days are gone. last one i saw sell on there was around 5 grand.
That one is without a doubt the holy grail of 760 Carbines, the .35 Remingtom.
I looked for one for years, still look. I did find one in the 22 inch rifle version(appears unfired) and now own it.
In the quest of looking for a .35 Remington in the Carbine version I spoke to people at the Remington plant in Ilion NY years ago, and I was told that they only made a total of 454 of them in the Carbine version, so the odds don't look good of me ever finding one.
What a cool and timely thread, I bought a corn cob? forearm 760 in 30-06 from an old Gent buddy of mine in 1991, he has recently passed, iirc the rifle is a 1957 year model, I have never fired it, did load up some 165gr Speer hot-cors with the prescribed max charge [61gr] of IMR-4831 at 3.300 col, pulled the old rifle out of the big safe his morning, unscrewed the Weaver rings and put the 2-7 Redfield on the table, will go out when the rain quits and zero the factory barrel sights, then re-mount the old Redfield and zero it two inches high at 100 yards.
I never chronographed the load, I don't think it's going to matter for white tail deer this side of 200 yards, I love the old rifle, it doesn't seem to rattle too much, as said, any deer that hears that is on the way to dying.
What a cool and timely thread, I bought a corn cob? forearm 760 in 30-06 from an old Gent buddy of mine in 1991, he has recently passed, iirc the rifle is a 1957 year model, I have never fired it, did load up some 165gr Speer hot-cors with the prescribed max charge [61gr] of IMR-4831 at 3.300 col, pulled the old rifle out of the big safe his morning, unscrewed the Weaver rings and put the 2-7 Redfield on the table, will go out when the rain quits and zero the factory barrel sights, then re-mount the old Redfield and zero it two inches high at 100 yards.
I never chronographed the load, I don't think it's going to matter for white tail deer this side of 200 yards, I love the old rifle, it doesn't seem to rattle too much, as said, any deer that hears that is on the way to dying.
Ha! You nailed it buddy! I don’t tend to shake the snot out of my rifles anyhow, so maybe I just don’t notice any extra rattling!
I’ve got a 280 7600 and a 35 Whelen 7600.. Both of them are might good rifles, for Remingtons
Every time I open this thread my butt gets sore from kicking myself selling off a very nice 760 .257 Roberts. I won't even tell you how little I let it go for to avoid further embarrassment and ridicule.
Every time I open this thread my butt gets sore from kicking myself selling off a very nice 760 .257 Roberts. I won't even tell you how little I let it go for to avoid further embarrassment and ridicule.
I feel your pain, I did the same thing, My primary regret letting one rifle get away, I did the same with a 760 in .35 Rem.
I picked this .30-30 carbine off Cabelas sale rack last year for cheap. Sweet little gun. I've been contemplating sending it to JES to punch it out to .375. When I called and inquired whether it was feasible, he said he's done several and they work great. Might have to get off my a$$ and send it in.
I’ll bet that old action is slick. You may be surprised how well that old girl will shoot.
You're exactly right, slick as can be, i'll find out Mon or Tue how the old girl shoots, did a little inventorying on bullets after the Speer Hot Cors are gone, I found:
35 150gr NPT's 39 200gr Woodleighs 41 200gr Swift A Frames 72 220gr NPT's
I will load all with max charge of H-4831 sc, re-zero and use as needed for inside 200 yard hunting, being careful to have the same number of firings on all the new WW cases, after that, i'll work up a lifetime load for the old rifle with 200gr NPT's, concentrating on max accuracy and speed, I have a pile of those.
What a cool and timely thread, I bought a corn cob? forearm 760 in 30-06 from an old Gent buddy of mine in 1991, he has recently passed, iirc the rifle is a 1957 year model, I have never fired it, did load up some 165gr Speer hot-cors with the prescribed max charge [61gr] of IMR-4831 at 3.300 col, pulled the old rifle out of the big safe his morning, unscrewed the Weaver rings and put the 2-7 Redfield on the table, will go out when the rain quits and zero the factory barrel sights, then re-mount the old Redfield and zero it two inches high at 100 yards.
I never chronographed the load, I don't think it's going to matter for white tail deer this side of 200 yards, I love the old rifle, it doesn't seem to rattle too much, as said, any deer that hears that is on the way to dying.
Ha! You nailed it buddy! I don’t tend to shake the snot out of my rifles anyhow, so maybe I just don’t notice any extra rattling!
I’ve got a 280 7600 and a 35 Whelen 7600.. Both of them are might good rifles, for Remingtons
LOL, Sweet! sounds like you have a pair of nice ones too there Big Buddy, have done a little research on the 760 Remington during the crazy hit and miss, hurry up and wait day I had yesterday, this rifle has a plastic dust cover, I went to the old box the Man gave me with the rifle 30 years ago, inside an oily brown paper envelope wrapped with tape was the factory metal dust cover and a couple small springs, that old Man may have already de-rattled this rifle some as well as lighter trigger springs? don't know, do know the trigger is nice for what it is.
This old rifle has a soul, you can feel it, much different than the current plastic stocked stainless Remington offerings, Uncle has an old BDL walnut stocked heavy varmint in 22-250 and a wood stocked monster 300 Win Mag single shot 40X, same/same, the old guns have a soul.
What a cool and timely thread, I bought a corn cob? forearm 760 in 30-06 from an old Gent buddy of mine in 1991, he has recently passed, iirc the rifle is a 1957 year model, I have never fired it, did load up some 165gr Speer hot-cors with the prescribed max charge [61gr] of IMR-4831 at 3.300 col, pulled the old rifle out of the big safe his morning, unscrewed the Weaver rings and put the 2-7 Redfield on the table, will go out when the rain quits and zero the factory barrel sights, then re-mount the old Redfield and zero it two inches high at 100 yards.
I never chronographed the load, I don't think it's going to matter for white tail deer this side of 200 yards, I love the old rifle, it doesn't seem to rattle too much, as said, any deer that hears that is on the way to dying.
Ha! You nailed it buddy! I don’t tend to shake the snot out of my rifles anyhow, so maybe I just don’t notice any extra rattling!
I’ve got a 280 7600 and a 35 Whelen 7600.. Both of them are might good rifles, for Remingtons
LOL, Sweet! sounds like you have a pair of nice ones too there Big Buddy, have done a little research on the 760 Remington during the crazy hit and miss, hurry up and wait day I had yesterday, this rifle has a plastic dust cover, I went to the old box the Man gave me with the rifle 30 years ago, inside an oily brown paper envelope wrapped with tape was the factory metal dust cover and a couple small springs, that old Man may have already de-rattled this rifle some as well as lighter trigger springs? don't know, do know the trigger is nice for what it is.
This old rifle has a soul, you can feel it, much different than the current plastic stocked stainless Remington offerings, Uncle has an old BDL walnut stocked heavy varmint in 22-250 and a wood stocked monster 300 Win Mag single shot 40X, same/same, the old guns have a soul.
That’s a fact! I picked up an older M725 280 Remington awhile back and it’s a slick old bolt gun. Wood and steel still is pretty darned nice, and it seems like the older bolt guns were much cleaner to me.
Yeah those old 721’s were a pretty neat rifle. Like a dummy my Dad gave me a 721 30-06 when I was younger he got in a trade for some firewood. Like a dummy I sold it and bought a M70.... while the M70 was a good one it wasn’t anything special.
I picked this .30-30 carbine off Cabelas sale rack last year for cheap. Sweet little gun. I've been contemplating sending it to JES to punch it out to .375. When I called and inquired whether it was feasible, he said he's done several and they work great. Might have to get off my a$$ and send it in.
TMitch, I'm no 760? [old pump gun] aficionado by any stretch, and your rifle of course, but I wouldn't drill that 30-30 Sir, that's got to be a rare bird, running 170gr Partitions at 2400 fps with RL-15 aint going to run from much, plus, you could send 150gr Partitions outta that little mag fed? banger, nice rifle, Congrats on the purchase.
I hear ya gunner, but this isn't a 760, it's a Savage 170 tube fed trombone. Not sure they're all too rare, they were kind of a budget gun in their day. It's a nice handy shell shucker as is, probably why I haven't sent it in yet.
I hear ya gunner, but this isn't a 760, it's a Savage 170 tube fed trombone. Not sure they're all too rare, they were kind of a budget gun in their day. It's a nice handy shell shucker as is, probably why I haven't sent it in yet.
I hear ya gunner, but this isn't a 760, it's a Savage 170 tube fed trombone. Not sure they're all too rare, they were kind of a budget gun in their day. It's a nice handy shell shucker as is, probably why I haven't sent it in yet.
Neat rifle though. They shoot well?
I haven't sat down and tried to squeeze groups out of it. I did run a box of WW 150gr Deer Season through it checking sights and function at about 50yds. It fed, fired and ejected perfectly and the cheapo scope in Weaver roll off mounts, as well as the irons, were still spot on. It shot as well as I held sitting with my back against a tree, easily "minute of deer heart".
If someone wants a 760. I bought a couple yesterday in 30-06. Let me know. I'm cleaning them now. I think I'll probably sell one, I don't care which. The older one had a totally shot recoil pad on it and I'm putting a better one on now. The forearm has some damage to it. I also put an open sight on it. The original was missing.
The newer one is pretty good shape with slight dents throughout the stock.
If someone wants a 760. I bought a couple yesterday in 30-06. Let me know. I'm cleaning them now. I think I'll probably sell one, I don't care which. The older one had a totally shot recoil pad on it and I'm putting a better one on now. The forearm has some damage to it. I also put an open sight on it. The original was missing.
The newer one is pretty good shape with slight dents throughout the stock.
I hear ya gunner, but this isn't a 760, it's a Savage 170 tube fed trombone. Not sure they're all too rare, they were kind of a budget gun in their day. It's a nice handy shell shucker as is, probably why I haven't sent it in yet.
LOL, 10-foe TMitch, just affirmed my no aficionado status! cool old rifle nonetheless, I hope you bust some venison with that rifle this year.
If you have a rattle in the fore end a new Oring will take care of it. It’s not that bad to change, plenty of videos showing how to take it down.
Thanks MagMarc, for some reason this rifle isn't that loud, I would have to be really acting like a goofball for any deer too hear me getting ready to put him in the bed of my truck, many Thanks for the tip anyway, the old Gent I got the rifle from may have already quieted her down.
I am mainly a bolt action guy. But have had a few pump Remingtons. I have never seen a 760 with a slide like this one I recently purchased (not the one for sale in the classifieds. When did Remington change from this type of slide??? .
I picked this .30-30 carbine off Cabelas sale rack last year for cheap. Sweet little gun. I've been contemplating sending it to JES to punch it out to .375. When I called and inquired whether it was feasible, he said he's done several and they work great. Might have to get off my a$$ and send it in.
TMitch, I'm no 760? [old pump gun] aficionado by any stretch, and your rifle of course, but I wouldn't drill that 30-30 Sir, that's got to be a rare bird, running 170gr Partitions at 2400 fps with RL-15 aint going to run from much, plus, you could send 150gr Partitions outta that little mag fed? banger, nice rifle, Congrats on the purchase.
The Savage 170 isn't a particularly strong action, so I'd use caution before trying to making into something that it wasn't designed to be. Savage made them just srong enough to operate at 30-30 and 35 REM pressure levels, so stressing it might lead to problems.
They work pretty well within the parameters of their design, as good woods range medium game hunting rifles.
I am mainly a bolt action guy. But have had a few pump Remingtons. I have never seen a 760 with a slide like this one I recently purchased (not the one for sale in the classifieds. When did Remington change from this type of slide??? .
That's an earlier model 760 before they changed the design of the pump tube assembly. Not exactly sure when they changed it, but the 760 on the far right is a first year production 1952 and the gun next to it is 1965 production.
I am mainly a bolt action guy. But have had a few pump Remingtons. I have never seen a 760 with a slide like this one I recently purchased (not the one for sale in the classifieds. When did Remington change from this type of slide??? .
Those were early models. I’m no expert on the dates though.
Have you noticed any difference in accuracy with the old style slide vs the newer one? I just read MD's article on pump rifles. I like his idea on using a 35 Whelen pump in the thick stuff.
Have you noticed any difference in accuracy with the old style slide vs the newer one?
I think it boils down to the individual rifle. Both the old and new models have free floating barrels, the older model just looks like the barrel is connected to the end of the pump tube but it's simply a plastic spacer.
I picked this .30-30 carbine off Cabelas sale rack last year for cheap. Sweet little gun. I've been contemplating sending it to JES to punch it out to .375. When I called and inquired whether it was feasible, he said he's done several and they work great. Might have to get off my a$$ and send it in.
TMitch, I'm no 760? [old pump gun] aficionado by any stretch, and your rifle of course, but I wouldn't drill that 30-30 Sir, that's got to be a rare bird, running 170gr Partitions at 2400 fps with RL-15 aint going to run from much, plus, you could send 150gr Partitions outta that little mag fed? banger, nice rifle, Congrats on the purchase.
The Savage 170 isn't a particularly strong action, so I'd use caution before trying to making into something that it wasn't designed to be. Savage made them just srong enough to operate at 30-30 and 35 REM pressure levels, so stressing it might lead to problems.
They work pretty well within the parameters of their design, as good woods range medium game hunting rifles.
Agreed, speaking of old 760's, I cant make heads nor tails out of Remingtons serial number codes, does anyone know what year 314xxx may be for a 760?
Agreed, speaking of old 760's, I cant make heads nor tails out of Remingtons serial number codes, does anyone know what year 314xxx may be for a 760?
I don't know of any charts that can help date a Remington by serial number. You used to be able to call them or go on their website and tell them your gun model and serial number, but there is no website now.
There is a chart for the date codes that are stamped on the barrel. On the left side of the barrel, near the receiver will be 2 or 3 letters stamped into the metal, old eyes like mine need a magnifying glass to see them.
Ive had a 760 in 270 since 1982,lol bought it the year i graduated from HS,, killed many many deer with it,, also have a model 76 in 270, oil stain kicks like mule,,
Like to find newer 7607600 style in 308 carbine. One of my lookfors when hitting the surrounding shops
I’m not sure why the .308 is so hot right now in the 760/7600 but holy hell is it ever! I’ve had a few. And for some reason they seem to smack me in an uncomfortable way. The .308 recoil in those slide actions bugs me. I can rip 60 rounds off out of an 06 without issue.
Like to find newer 7607600 style in 308 carbine. One of my lookfors when hitting the surrounding shops
I’m not sure why the .308 is so hot right now in the 760/7600 but holy hell is it ever! I’ve had a few. And for some reason they seem to smack me in an uncomfortable way. The .308 recoil in those slide actions bugs me. I can rip 60 rounds off out of an 06 without issue.
LOL, good to hear T, I haven't touched this little '06 off yet.
Thanks WinkMan and Hook, numbers I get are, 5 X D 33.
The 5 and 33 are hard to read, don't appear to be stamped square.
You're welcome. The "XD" would make the manufacture date December 1957 according to the date code chart.
NICE! hell of a deal WinkMan, Thank You, thought I remembered the old Gent that sold me the rifle say it was a 1957 year model, he bought it after coming home from Korea, I'm proud to be it's second owner.
I’ve always hunted deer with bolt actions and one lever action but for typical whitetail terrain and most shots in thick cover at under a 100 yards I’ve always thought that levers, pump, and autoloaders probably made more sense.
Like to find newer 7607600 style in 308 carbine. One of my lookfors when hitting the surrounding shops
I’m not sure why the .308 is so hot right now in the 760/7600 but holy hell is it ever! I’ve had a few. And for some reason they seem to smack me in an uncomfortable way. The .308 recoil in those slide actions bugs me. I can rip 60 rounds off out of an 06 without issue.
LOL, good to hear T, I haven't touched this little '06 off yet.
Eeehh, you won't have any trouble with it. The .308 recoil in the those trombones is just quick and weird to me. No biggie though. You'll like that 06 plenty.
Nice, Thanks T, I need to get started, left out part of the "I'm the rifles second owner" last night.............For 30 damn years, bought it in the summer of '91,
Nice, Thanks T, I need to get started, left out part of the "I'm the rifles second owner" last night.............For 30 damn years, bought it in the summer of '91,
Latest acquisition completed, the 760 Carbine in .308 I've been after from the guy for 7-8 years. He was pretty anal, had a tupperware stock and forend so he didn't scratch the wood while out hunting. He owns a small sporting goods store and knew what he had so I paid dearly but worth it to me. Every time I'd go past the store I'd stop in and talk to him about it, and always the same "I'm not ready to part with it yet", but I finally caught him in the right mood last week.
1970 vintage with a May 1970 date code on the barrel.
Removed the tupperware furniture and put the original wood back on, cleaned it thoroughly, brought the barrel down to bare steel with JB Bore Paste so I can dyna bore coat it. Mounted a Leupold Vari X II 2X7 period correct gloss scope I had bought and never used from back then in Weaver Pivot Mounts and low Pivot Rings.
Range is currently closed for renovations, supposed to open the end of February, but with the snow, I think it will be longer. Got to get some brass from Crod1972 and work up a load for it.
Very pleased to finally get this gun, .308 Carbines are few and far between from what I've seen.
I bought the same gun from a member here a couple years ago that he posted on this thread. I thought I paid threw the nose for it, but It was the year I had been looking for and was in new condition. By today's standards I did really good though.
If you get a chance, try the Federal blue box 150 gr. Mine loves them. 3 shot clover leaves @ 100 are common. I reload too but for that gun I don't need to for a long time.
I bought the same gun from a member here a couple years ago that he posted on this thread. I thought I paid threw the nose for it, but It was the year I had been looking for and was in new condition. By today's standards I did really good though.
If you get a chance, try the Federal blue box 150 gr. Mine loves them. 3 shot clover leaves @ 100 are common. I reload too but for that gun I don't need to for a long time.
I have 4 1/2 boxes of the blue box 150's in .308 I use in my 7400 Jamomatic, I'll try them too.
And I'm thinking the same thing as you, despite the price, in a few years it will in reality be a bargain and I'll be way ahead. Not that I would ever sell it, my son will wind up with it, he wants it now, LOL.
Speaking of the 257 Roberts, a buddy texted me this morning that the Scheel's store in Omaha has a 90%+ Remington 760 in their used guns rack priced at $400. He reports that it is original, except that the rear sight was replaced with a correct period Marble's unit, no extra holes or recoil pad. He reports that there is some light, very light, freckling on the top of the receiver and that the plug screws look untouched, so probably there from carrying it with a sweaty hand. It is the standard, ADL, style with plain wood and a grooved forearm. He didn't look at the bore, but said that the SN is 2141xx and the assembly code is either PA or AP, He said that he hadn't seen as nice a 760 in 257 Roberts for a decade or more and would have bought it if he hadn't just paid for college for 3 of his 6 kids.
I wonder what this rifle would bring today?
Probably more than the $428 somebody paid for it a few months back.
I bought the same gun from a member here a couple years ago that he posted on this thread. I thought I paid threw the nose for it, but It was the year I had been looking for and was in new condition. By today's standards I did really good though.
I feel that way already bbassi. I just went on Gunbroker looking and there is a 760 Carbine in 30-06 which is much more common than a .308 Carbine. It started at $1399 by the seller and has one bid on it for the $1399 with 7 hours to go till it closes. Carbine on Gunbroker
I'm under that for the .308 Carbine I just bought so it would appear I did good already.
I have a 30-06 Carbine also, purchased new in 1979 and I have the original box with matching serial number on it. It has WAY nicer wood than that carbine on Gunbroker, I think I put a picture of it on this thread somewhere, but I'll never sell that one either.
My only hope is that when I do kick the bucket further down the road my son looks at those guns; now his, and says 'the old man was ok, no matter what I used to say about him', LMAO !!!!!
Heck, I'm even feeling good about my $599 .270 7600 from last summer! It was my parting gift to myself using paid-out vacation time from an awful job I left. That 7600 has become my favorite rifle and spends a lot of time in-hand in the desert for varminting and protection. I would not mind picking up another, but they're rare in the Southwest.
Yep. Back before the craziness started, PSA had 10 boxes for $150 with free shipping, so I'm in good shape there for a while. Hopefully till they do that again. I still see it at the local big box occasionally for $21/box too. I shot my PA buck with them this fall. 100yd broadside, quarter size exit. The buck mule kicked, went 30 yds and piled up. Hard to complain about that.
I sold a 760 BDL 30-06 for a neighbor on the classifieds a few years ago. He took it apart to fix "the rattle" and found the action bars were the culprit. He slightly bent them out where the action bars a connect to the bolt and the rattle was fixed. He did install a new o-ring while he has the rifle apart IIRC.
There are 2 actually, a BDL in .308 with 22 inch barrel at $992 right now with 19 hours to go and a five diamonds .308 carbine at $1033 with almost 3 days to go. It will be interesting to see what they wind up selling at.
There are 2 actually, a BDL in .308 with 22 inch barrel at $992 right now with 19 hours to go and a five diamonds .308 carbine at $1033 with almost 3 days to go. It will be interesting to see what they wind up selling at.
There are 2 actually, a BDL in .308 with 22 inch barrel at $992 right now with 19 hours to go and a five diamonds .308 carbine at $1033 with almost 3 days to go. It will be interesting to see what they wind up selling at.
They're both overpriced. Lol
I agree, but people are putting in bids for them.
I've heard that Gunbroker has had the highest percentage of unpaid completed sales they've ever had since this shortage started, don't know how true it is though.
Old pic of my original 760. Alaska Young me, young meat bear. She was delicious! Came walking up when I was cutting firewood. Turned out to be a big day for her.
Old pic of my original 760. Alaska Young me, young meat bear. She was delicious! Came walking up when I was cutting firewood. Turned out to be a big day for her.
Old pic of my original 760. Alaska Young me, young meat bear. She was delicious! Came walking up when I was cutting firewood. Turned out to be a big day for her.
Old pic of my original 760. Alaska Young me, young meat bear. She was delicious! Came walking up when I was cutting firewood. Turned out to be a big day for her.
I recently acquired this 30-30 fairly priced from a forum member. I am loading the 150 gr TSX over Leverevolution for an upcoming hog hunt. I am awaiting an extended piccatiny rail and have an older Weaver CV-9 for it. Short of some dings on the stock and missing the front sight it is in pretty fine condition.
There's three new listings of 7600's on Guns International - Cheapest is $1,200 - the highest priced is $1,900. Makes my 760 30-06 price look too low. Haha
I recently acquired this 30-30 fairly priced from a forum member. I am loading the 150 gr TSX over Leverevolution for an upcoming hog hunt. I am awaiting an extended piccatiny rail and have an older Weaver CV-9 for it. Short of some dings on the stock and missing the front sight it is in pretty fine condition.
Picked a old 760 adl up this AM mid 50's gun in 30-06 still has the original irons and checkered aluminum butt no sling hardware on it. Looking forward to using it on some meat deer. Mb
Picked a old 760 adl up this AM mid 50's gun in 30-06 still has the original irons and checkered aluminum butt no sling hardware on it. Looking forward to using it on some meat deer. Mb
Nice, you'll like it.
Corncob forend or 5 diamonds pattern?
If you can read the date code(I always need a magnifying glass), this chart will tell you the month & year of manufacture. Remington Date Code chart
I recently acquired this 30-30 fairly priced from a forum member. I am loading the 150 gr TSX over Leverevolution for an upcoming hog hunt. I am awaiting an extended piccatiny rail and have an older Weaver CV-9 for it. Short of some dings on the stock and missing the front sight it is in pretty fine condition.
A fine old Savage 170. Real nice !!!!!
It was good for inch and a half three shot groups today with the 150 gr TSX over LEVERrevolution powder. I damaged the Weaver due to my chit installation so a 3-9X Burris Droptine was swapped. Fun little rifle.
Winkman you are sure right about needing good light and magnification to read the barrel mark's guess I'll wait till I get it , to try to decipher and get a picture if you want to post it. Mb
Winkman you are sure right about needing good light and magnification to read the barrel mark's guess I'll wait till I get it , to try to decipher and get a picture if you want to post it. Mb
Magnum_Bob's new(to him) Remington 760 pump in 30-06.
Date code puts it at January 1967 production. Looks to be in very good condition and I'm sure will clean up nicely.
T I think so too. Smooth quiet, not rattlely. Think I'll run some 150's in it and find out how close the factory irons are. Mb
Back in the day when i had one of those, military ammo was pretty easy to come by. I had lots of Lake City match grade stuff id just pull the bullets from and then just reseat 150 gr hunting bullets. I sold mine after the lefty Savage bolt guns became available and still did the same with that as for ammo.
I got to play with my new '68 today at lunch. 3 different groups with IMR4350 and 180gr Sierras went under 1.5 inches. That's in a 30mph wind too. I'm thinking I might keep her.
bbassi, good deal, I got mine out yesterday and shot around a 1.75 three shot group at 100 yards, the first two were within an inch, the third walked out a bit left, wind, heavy trigger and me were most likely the cause, bout 1.5 inch high, plenty good enough for 200 yard deer hunting, load components are over 30 years old, I've kept them all this time, max charge of 61grs imr-4831 under the 165gr Speer hot-cor lit with Rem 9-1/2 primers, didn't chrono either, don't think the deer will care what the speed is.
The old 2-7 Redfield sitting in Weavers was surprisingly clear, skinny wire reticle, no duplex, but it'll do just fine, it was a pure blast finally shooting this old 760 Gamemaster.
Anybody shot the corelokt 220s through a 7600? I think I'm gonna give those a try this fall in the deer woods. Something different to play with.
-Jake
The only 220 grain bbullets that I've tried and didn't shoot very accuartely is Hornady 220 RN. However, they were accurate enough for 250 yrad, maybe more.
I shot 220 grain Core-Lokts at White tail in a 742. They made a hole all the way through. ha ha
Anybody shot the corelokt 220s through a 7600? I think I'm gonna give those a try this fall in the deer woods. Something different to play with.
-Jake
The only 220 grain bbullets that I've tried and didn't shoot very accuartely is Hornady 220 RN. However, they were accurate enough for 250 yrad, maybe more.
I shot 220 grain Core-Lokts at White tail in a 742. They made a hole all the way through. ha ha
OK serious question for you pump rifle aficionados that also reload. Do you normally see velocities below, at, or above printed book values with your 760/7600/6? I ask because I've been working with 3 different powders that I've used in other rifles and with this pump I'm consistently getting 100-200 FPS slower with max loads. I'm even a full grain over Hodgdons website max load with the IMR4350 and still only about 2650. No signs of pressure but it's annoying the hell out of me. I don't know if it's the gun, the chrono, the bullets or the primers at this point.
If it matters it's a 30-06, 22 inch barrel, tried H4350, IMR4350 and Varget. Remington 9 1/2 primers and Sierra 180gr round nose bullets.
When I was shooting handloads in my first 760, I always carried in the field with cartridges made from new, never fired factory primed brass. Can you even buy factory primed centerfire rifle brass now? This was years ago. Was sold 20 in the box, same as cartridges. Minimum dimensions, so smooth cycling was assured. Highly important to me at that time.
The chambers on the pumps and semi's seem to run on the tight side about 50% of the time in my experience.
I have 3 760's in 06, a carbine and 2 regular, datewise being manufactured 1952, 1965, and 1979 and all 3 require a full length resizing with a small base die for a shell fired from any other gun for these 3 to chamber the round.
Then I have 2 760's and a 7400 in .308 & 270 dating 70, 71, and 91 and these 3 will chamber a round fired from any other rifle with a regular full length resizing die.
OK serious question for you pump rifle aficionados that also reload. Do you normally see velocities below, at, or above printed book values with your 760/7600/6? I ask because I've been working with 3 different powders that I've used in other rifles and with this pump I'm consistently getting 100-200 FPS slower with max loads. I'm even a full grain over Hodgdons website max load with the IMR4350 and still only about 2650. No signs of pressure but it's annoying the hell out of me. I don't know if it's the gun, the chrono, the bullets or the primers at this point.
If it matters it's a 30-06, 22 inch barrel, tried H4350, IMR4350 and Varget. Remington 9 1/2 primers and Sierra 180gr round nose bullets.
My 760 is in 300 Savage. Velocities with handloads and factory ammo are consistent with that from my Savage 99s.
Went there today to fill out the paperwork for the Browning Buckmark pistol I bought from him.
So after I finished that, I said let me take a quick look at what you have hanging on the wall, and lo and behold, what do I see at the very end of the wall? A Remington 760 pump that even with my half blind eyes I can see is pristine, spotless.
Date code puts it at December 1979 production, probably one of the last 760's made. Then he tells me this is his other personal gun (I bought his 760 Carbine in .308). So now I know it is pristine because this guy is more anal than I am.
The gun is a BDL Deluxe in 30-06 with the stepped receiver and basket weave checkering. Gun is easily 99.5% Doesn't even look like it was fired, not a scratch or mark on it. Came with a newer Redfield 3X9 (Revolution? didn't look that closely at the scope, with rangefinding reticle) which I think the guy put on the gun just to sell it because the scope base is loose.
When I get the gun later this week after the NICS check is done, I'll put a picture up
Went there today to fill out the paperwork for the Browning Buckmark pistol I bought from him.
So after I finished that, I said let me take a quick look at what you have hanging on the wall, and lo and behold, what do I see at the very end of the wall? A Remington 760 pump that even with my half blind eyes I can see is pristine, spotless.
Date code puts it at December 1979 production, probably one of the last 760's made. Then he tells me this is his other personal gun (I bought his 760 Carbine in .308). So now I know it is pristine because this guy is more anal than I am.
The gun is a BDL Deluxe in 30-06 with the stepped receiver and basket weave checkering. Gun is easily 99.5% Doesn't even look like it was fired, not a scratch or mark on it. Came with a newer Redfield 3X9 which I think the guy put on the gun just to sell it because the scope base is loose.
When I get the gun later this week after the NICS check is done, I'll put a picture up
Yeah, the federal backround check by the state police is always backed up because they won't spend on the manpower to do it right. Whole state is anti gun including the Superintendent of State Police who has come right out and said he doesn't believe we should have a 2nd Amendment, the lowlife POS !!!!
So the "instant" backround check isn't an "instant" backround check here.
That's what happens when you live in the communist Republic here rather than a real state !!!!!!
Yeah, the federal backround check by the state police is always backed up because they won't spend on the manpower to do it right. Whole state is anti gun including the Superintendent of State Police who has come right out and said he doesn't believe we should have a 2nd Amendment, the lowlife POS !!!!
So the "instant" backround check isn't an "instant" backround check here.
That's what happens when you live in the communist Republic here rather than a real state !!!!!!
Picked up the 760 BDL from the gunshop today. Picture is just as I got it.
As I said, manufacture date December 1979, BDL deluxe in 30-06 with 22 inch barrel. Gun is clean, immaculate, not even any bluing wear marks on the pump tube. Couldn't have been shot much, if at all.
Scope is a newer Redfield Revolution, with the Accu Range reticle. I don't see me keeping this scope on the gun though. Looks brand new and the scope base is loose to boot, makes me think he hastily put the scope on to sell it. Anyone have an idea what this scope is worth?
I'm pretty lucky to have now 3 1979 vintage 760's all clean, 99%. 2 appear unfired, the 3rd, well my 06 carbine may be clean, but it's shot a bunch of deer since 1979 when I bought it, that one has definitely been fired Here's the new one I just picked up from the dealer.
That 308 would soon be a 358 rebore if I had it. You have a collection of quite useable guns there. I should stick with mostly one kind of gun. I have accululatoritis. Be Well, RZ.
That 308 would soon be a 358 rebore if I had it. You have a collection of quite useable guns there. I should stick with mostly one kind of gun. I have accululatoritis. Be Well, RZ.
Rusty, as you already know, I love myM760 .358Win. it's a 35Rem rechambered. I call it my 'baby Whelen'
I think a baby Whelen is a good gun. Haven't hunted with it but I have been shooting my 9X56 Steyr M/S. What a blast. Haven't Labradar'ed the load but a 250 gr Hornady at a moderate velocity will probably go through two does. Also have some Brit Kynoch ammo in the original 10 round box. I am still debating if I should shoot one box over the LabRadar. Good to hear from you. People who haven't shot the 760 series or used the 358 Winchester will never appreciate what the medium bore at a moderate speed can do. Be Well, RZ.
That’s a good looking BDL. I would think that scope would bring around $150.
Thanks. Same guy I bought the .308 Carbine from.
Trying to get an idea what that scope is worth in case I decide to sell it, and don't want to get flamed by the AZZHOLES for overpricing it. It's a real nice scope but doesn't really fit that rifle.
I've got a period correct Denver Redfield Low Profile Widefield 2X7 Gloss that would go perfect on this rifle. Scope is pristine, just like the gun except for the adjustment caps. I bought it from bbrown here with the understanding he couldn't get it to hold zero on a rifle and he wasn't sure if it was the gun, rings/base, or the scope.
So I called Iron Sight and they have new adjustment caps and can completely recondition the scope to original factory specifications for their normal fee. And for an additional $15, I can get a Post & Crosshair reticle to replace the duplex it currently has. Think I'm going to go that route rather than waste a bunch of ammo finding out it is the scope.
You know what I hate about these Remington pump guns? They shoot so well there's no reason to reload for them. This is the first 5 shot group with the Cabela's Herters branded 180 gr. at 100. Top shot is a cold bore. this gun likes the Federal blue box 150s even better. My 308 is the same way. Loves the Blue box 150 and Core lokt 150s. both less than an inch average. It's getting to be a guy can't find a good reason to burn up his primer supply with these things around.
You know what I hate about these Remington pump guns? They shoot so well there's no reason to reload for them. This is the first 5 shot group with the Cabela's Herters branded 180 gr. at 100. Top shot is a cold bore. this gun likes the Federal blue box 150s even better. My 308 is the same way. Loves the Blue box 150 and Core lokt 150s. both less than an inch average. It's getting to be a guy can't find a good reason to burn up his primer supply with these things around.
You are right about that! I have a 7600 carbine in 308. It's called a QWAC. it was a Grice special. It shoots a number of factory loads into bug holes. I can't believe it.
all of mine shoot remington factory ammo in tight groups with the exception of my whelen and 200gr corelokts. it likes the 250's better and some custom ammo from wisconsin cartridge in 200gr SP. not sure of the load with those.
need to try the superperformance one of these days when ammo becomes available. but truthfully, my whelen carbine kicks like a freaking mule so i only shoot it when i am going to hunt with it.
I have a 760 made in1953 in 270Win. Talk about a fun gun to shoot and is DOA on just about anything it shoots. Come August, I'll have 4 grandkids.....one of them will be gifted it !!
Time to resurrect this thread because I need a break from resizing and trimming brass, so I took a quick picture.
I just realized with the purchase of my last 760 That I have one of the very early and last of the 760's made.
Top gun has a manufacture date of March 1952 as per the date code. Bottom gun has a manufacture date of December 1979 as per the date code. Both in 30-06.
Up North here the Remington pumps are commonly called "Mennonite Machine guns " , never did find out why. Maybe because they are fairly accurate, inexpensive fast cycling, and very common in farm country. I have never owned one personally but have worked on a few and every owner just loved theirs! The only complaint I ever heard was the weak mag springs If ammo was stored in them for a long time . Cat
Up North here the Remington pumps are commonly called "Mennonite Machine guns " , never did find out why.
Also known in Pennsylvania as the "Amish Machine gun" because semi_autos are illegal to hunt big game with there and the Amish like the 760/7600 with aftermarket 10 round magazines for deer.
I shot one of my deer last year with my Remington 141 in 35 caliber. I may try it again this year. I used an old 200 grain Core-Lokt, but I also have some 220 grain Speers and some 180 grain Speers too.. I user the 220s years ago from another 35 Rem I had, that one being a marlin 36. I killed 7 deer with them. Had no complaints at all. Maybe I'll try the 180s. Anyone out there ever use the Speer 180 grain 35s?
Yes sir Szhin I used the Speer 180s in a couple of 358 Win. I don't recall the speed but they were faster than the 35 Rem. I killed ?some? deer and honestly don't remember how many but more than 1 or 2. It was in the 70-80s before I took pictures so I can't help you there.
During that time I was ONLY shooting 'lung' shots/ ribs and they worked plenty good (well). I never had any problem with them like that.
When i got my 35 Whelen I used 200 H S P between 2800-2900 fps. That's a diff bullet.
If you're using them in a 35 Rem you won't have any trouble with the bullets.
jwall, that's a heck of a Six collection. Reminds me I need to take my 7600 out on Monday and stretch its legs some.
Thank you Sir.
I was attracted to the Six as soon as it was introduced. The one with 'see thrus' was my first one. 270 W. It now belongs to my Son. Top one is 6mm Rem 2nd one is 30-06
I was fortunate enough to acquire these before the price was above $300. The M Six was only $20. more than the 7600. I never understood why people wouldn't pay $20. more.
Up North here the Remington pumps are commonly called "Mennonite Machine guns " , never did find out why.
Also known in Pennsylvania as the "Amish Machine gun" because semi_autos are illegal to hunt big game with there and the Amish like the 760/7600 with aftermarket 10 round magazines for deer.
Well, that is interesting , funny how regulations change from State to State , Province to Province. Cat
I shot one of my deer last year with my Remington 141 in 35 caliber. I may try it again this year. I used an old 200 grain Core-Lokt, but I also have some 220 grain Speers and some 180 grain Speers too.. I user the 220s years ago from another 35 Rem I had, that one being a marlin 36. I killed 7 deer with them. Had no complaints at all. Maybe I'll try the 180s. Anyone out there ever use the Speer 180 grain 35s?
I started hunting in 1947 in the NC area of Pa when i was 12 years old. In 1949 i had a brand new model 141 Rem in 35 Rem. It was bought at a store in Bristol Pa on a layaway plan for $104.95, alot of money in 1949. I used 200 gr bullets in it and killed several nice bucks. When the 760 model was introduced i decided i wanted one mainly because of the detachable magazine. After a couple years i found a very nice used one at Paul Yeagers gun store in Jenkintown Pa. I traded the 141 on the 760 in 30/06 which had a Weaver K2.5 scope on it, my first ever scope. But the 30/06 760 was not nearly as accurate as my model 141 was, and when Savage introduced the lefty bolt 110 model i sold the ( thrashing machine ), and got one of those. Most guys were happy with hitting a 5 gallon bucket at 100 yards in those days. lol
I have shot the 180 grain bullet in my AR 358, and so far they have been the most accurate in that gun but have never fired one at a living animal yet. I have not tried them in the 141. But I think maybe I should. My remaining Remington 200 grainers are the old scalloped nose bullets and I shoot them into about 1-3/8" at 100 off the bench from my 141. But I am thinking about a replacement because Remington is not making them anymore and I have only about 100 left. They do sell a 200 Gr. RN bullet, but it's not the same one. It doesn't have the scallops, the cannelure is in a different place and the jacket is thinner.
I want to try the 220 gr FN in my 358 also. I just got some from a member here on the Fire. I killed deer with them 35 years ago but loaded in a 35 Remington. The bullet worked perfectly from the 35 Rem, and I believe it may be quite good in a 358, but I can't say for sure yet. I tried some 225 Gr Accubonds in the AR and they shot 7". The barrel is rifled 1-14" and I am guessing the BXC on the Accubond is too high for a 1-14. Shot from a friends 35 Whelen (which I made form him) with a 1-12" twist they shoot under MOA
At my age, if I can "marry" each gun to one load and buy 300-500 bullets I bet I will not live long enough to shoot them all up. But I load for acceptable accuracy and then want to make at least 5 kills with any given bullet before I consider the ammo and rifle "married". In my 358 I was hoping for good results with the 225 Partition, but in the last 14 months I have not found even one box for sale. I also have some 225 grain Sierras and they are far shorter then the 225 Accubond, so maybe they will work out well.
But, coming back the the M141, I am going to buy 500 bullets for it and before I do I want to find one I feel will do all I ask of it. The old Remington was such a bullet, but Remington had a goal to destroy everything of any real value they ever produced and push sales of the junk and sub-standard things, and the predictable result is exactly what we've all seen.
The 35 Remington did good work for elk hunters in the woods for many years, and maybe the Speer 220 would do as well as the old Remington bullets but that remains to be seen. It's not all that likely I'd kill any elk with my 35 Rem, (having several other rifles I'd probably take before I took the 141)but I might, and if the bullet expands and hold together on elk the killing of deer is not likely to be much of a problem. 35 are big before the open up and if that 220s only opened up to 40 or 45 cal, they will still do fine. I have killed quite a number of deer and antelope with some 357 magnum handguns and see about 40 killed with 357 Mag carbines and the 357 done fine. The 35 Remington can't be worse if the bullets don't break up completely, which seems unlikely at MVs of 2050 or as low as 1900 if shot with the 220 grain bullets'. With the Speer 180s getting close to 2200 is realistic.
I love learning about different bullets and how they preform and have been interested in those effects since I was a young teenager. Now as an old man I regret knowing I can't shoot enough game or enough different bullets in the time I have left to answer all my questions, but I'll keep doing it as long as I can. I have about 1/2 a century of "testing' behind me and I believe I need about another 100 years of hunting (at the same number of kills I averaged per year in my 20s 30s and 40s) to learn about the bullets that we have now, disregarding what may come out in the future)
I can't get it all done myself so I truly enjoy and appreciate honest and accurate reports form other hunters
Remington has shot themselves in the foot so many times that I sure question their marketing. A .30-06 in a carbine 7600 is yet another foot shot IMO. There is nothing mild recoiling about a .30-06 in any Remington pump let alone a shorter lighter weight one. Why not a .35 Remington, .308, .300 Savage, 350 Winchester, even a .358 maybe? Probably to be politically correct because only the .35 Remington has their invented here moniker. A 7mm-08 then.
Remington has shot themselves in the foot so many times that I sure question their marketing. A .30-06 in a carbine 7600 is yet another foot shot IMO. There is nothing mild recoiling about a .30-06 in any Remington pump let alone a shorter lighter weight one. Why not a .35 Remington, .308, .300 Savage, 350 Winchester, even a .358 maybe? Probably to be politically correct because only the .35 Remington has their invented here moniker. A 7mm-08 then.
I dunno, my 760 pump Carbine in 30-06 has been killing deer for me since 1979, and all this time, I have yet to notice any recoil when shooting a deer. I think they are keepers !!!!!!
Oh not to say an '06 doesn't work, it does, but a .308 does the same thing on deer size game with 23% less recoil for a hundred less fps in a shorter cartridge. I've shot deer with a .30-06, .308 and a .300 Savage and couldn't tell a bit of difference in how they all reacted. We had a guy in camp with a .30-06 760 and while he liked the rifle, he didn't like the recoil. I sold off my m70 .30-06 for the same reason.
Oh not to say an '06 doesn't work, it does, but a .308 does the same thing on deer size game with 23% less recoil for a hundred less fps in a shorter cartridge. I've shot deer with a .30-06, .308 and a .300 Savage and couldn't tell a bit of difference in how they all reacted. We had a guy in camp with a .30-06 760 and while he liked the rifle, he didn't like the recoil. I sold off my m70 .30-06 for the same reason.
I hear what you are saying, and I agree, trouble is a 760 Carbine in .308 is about impossible to find and when you do, the price they go for is hard to believe (don't ask me how I know this, LMAO).
I've had my 06 Carbine since 1979 and just this year I was able to find a .308 Carbine (it is 1970 vintage) which I talked about further up in this thread, been looking for one for many years. I paid dearly for it, but I wanted it.
A long run here and I have enjoyed it all. I have a 760 in 358 Winchester I'm trying to set up with a folding stock and QD suppressor. For a truck gun it might just fill the bill. If not I will set up a AR pistol with 45 ACP/ suppressed and folding brace. Be Well, RZ.
Wink that's a gorgeous piece of wood on that carbine. Jealous.
Brent, Interesting story behind that gun and stock.
I had to order it from my LGS way back in 1979 as no one seemed to stock Carbines much back then, consumers were chasing velocity and wanted a 22 inch barrel to shoot deer at 60 yards in the Catskills. The store had several in stock when I ordered it, but no carbines.
Anyways, local LGS owner, Lou Salvato was like a 2nd father to me and knew I was pretty anal about the store unsealing the box before I got there. When they opened it, all I heard from the 6 employees behind the counter was "AHHHHH, look at that wood"., etc.
I truly think that if they had opened the box before I got there, I would have never gotten that particular gun, or at least I wouldn't have gotten the wood that was initially on it.
I also think that when that gun was made, some employee at the Remington Plant was pizzed off at their boss or something and took wood destined for the custom shop and threw it into the regular bin as this is a 760 ADL, not the BDL with the basket weave checkering and I don't think it ever should have gotten that piece of wood. Just a guess but I'll take what I can get.
I have thought about a Michael Petrov style 400 Whelen in a 760. I guess it is just a dream. No 'smith has ever offered to help me with my loony problem and 760's. I can't even find a good functioning 10 round magazine for a 308 cartridge. Be Well, RZ.
A long run here and I have enjoyed it all. I have a 760 in 358 Winchester I'm trying to set up with a folding stock and QD suppressor. For a truck gun it might just fill the bill. If not I will set up a AR pistol with 45 ACP/ suppressed and folding brace. Be Well, RZ.
I like the sound of that! No reason you couldn't load heavy subsonics to go with the can. A .358 is a good fit for Missouri; down here by the border a .270 is better medicine.
I've been watching the GB prices lately and it seemed a little sanity was seeping back into the pump gun market. Most guns with a starting price over $600 were not even getting bid on. Then this one showed up. I watch for anything produced in 1968 as it's my birth year and thought if the price stayed reasonable I might throw in a bid hoping to get a 358 donor. Right now I'm thinking I got a hell of a deal on my carbine here a couple years ago. lol
I've been watching the GB prices lately and it seemed a little sanity was seeping back into the pump gun market. Most guns with a starting price over $600 were not even getting bid on. Then this one showed up. I watch for anything produced in 1968 as it's my birth year and thought if the price stayed reasonable I might throw in a bid hoping to get a 358 donor. Right now I'm thinking I got a hell of a deal on my carbine here a couple years ago. lol
It seems most of them go nowhere unless they start at a penny from what I'm seeing lately also.
I'm loving the high bid on that .308 Carbine, and I thought I paid way to much for mine, LMAO !!!!
What the demand is for 308 carbines IMHO if you reload just load a 30-06 to 308 velocity and pay less. There's no difference is action length. My 30-06 load is about the same as 308 for both of my rifles and it kills just fine.
What the demand is for 308 carbines IMHO if you reload just load a 30-06 to 308 velocity and pay less. There's no difference is action length. My 30-06 load is about the same as 308 for both of my rifles and it kills just fine.
Dave, I agree with you on all counts, and even if you aren't a reloader reduced loads are manufactured for the 30-06.
I think the current demand, and the prices are due to the rarity of them. Back in the 60's-70's gunwriters of the day had consumers chasing velocity, hence carbines were not that much in demand, everyone wanted a 22 inch barrel on those pumps. The few that went against the grain tended to buy a carbine in 30-06, probably because it handled heavier bullets better according to gunwriters of the day. I know when I bought my 30-06 carbine in 1979 my LGS didn't have any in stock, all the 22 inch barrels you wanted but no carbines so they had to order mine.
Now fast forward to the present. I think because of what I stated above, there are not to many carbines out there in the used market in .308 and obviously they aren't making them anymore. I looked for YEARS, not because I needed one, but because I wanted one and they are extremely hard to find. If you look hard enough you can find them in 30-06 but .308 carbines are rare birds. So I got to the point that I didn't care what it cost, I just wanted one. A local LGS owner had one(his personal gun) and I bugged him for years, he didn't want to sell, so this year I just kept upping the offer $100 at a time untill he went for it.
I felt I overpaid for it but I didn't care. Then in light of the fact that I saw 2 sell on Gunbroker recently for $1600 and $1800 I realized I did well on the purchase. Additionally the one bbassi mentioned in his post above sold yesterday for $1876.
Now the only Carbine I want is a 760 in .35 Remington, but that one will be real tough if not impossible as they only produced it from 1964 to 1967 and again in 1979 and in that 5 year period only made 454 of them according to records I had gotten from Remington. I'm sure if one came up on Gunbroker it would top out at over 5 grand.
WM, absolutely buy what you want. My son bought me a 7600 7mm-08 with gray laminate stocks (Grice special run). The choice was between the 7mm-08 and 25-06. Easy choice for me.
Would like to stick a synthetic stock on it, get rid of the stud that moves with the forearm and use a barrel band sling stud.
If you have the swivel stud that attaches add moves with the forearm, that should be a post 68 gun and they should interchange just fine.
You can usually find the correct OEM capscrew on Fleabay to replace the screw with the swivel stud, that's what I did. I like to shoot the 760's hasty sling style and that damn moving front swivel stud is certainly not conducive to that.
I’ve got an old 760 35 rem that I would love to hunt with but due to my eyes I’ll need a scope. Did anyone ever make a no drill scope mount for them? I’ve thought about drilling and tapping it but I just can’t bring myself to have the ol’ girl messed with.
I’ve got an old 760 35 rem that I would love to hunt with but due to my eyes I’ll need a scope. Did anyone ever make a no drill scope mount for them? I’ve thought about drilling and tapping it but I just can’t bring myself to have the ol’ girl messed with.
IDK for sure, but I think Remington used the same trigger housing for the 760 and they did for the 870. Without getting my Mic out they look really close. That said, I wonder if you could use one of these saddle mounts through the trigger pins. I've never seen it done on a 760, but most of the 760s were factory tapped I think. It might be worth a try if you can find one in a bargain bin somewhere.
I’ve got an old 760 35 rem that I would love to hunt with but due to my eyes I’ll need a scope. Did anyone ever make a no drill scope mount for them? I’ve thought about drilling and tapping it but I just can’t bring myself to have the ol’ girl messed with.
IDK for sure, but I think Remington used the same trigger housing for the 760 and they did for the 870. Without getting my Mic out they look really close. That said, I wonder if you could use one of these saddle mounts through the trigger pins. I've never seen it done on a 760, but most of the 760s were factory tapped I think. It might be worth a try if you can find one in a bargain bin somewhere.
What the demand is for 308 carbines IMHO if you reload just load a 30-06 to 308 velocity and pay less. There's no difference is action length. My 30-06 load is about the same as 308 for both of my rifles and it kills just fine.
Dave, I agree with you on all counts, and even if you aren't a reloader reduced loads are manufactured for the 30-06.
I think the current demand, and the prices are due to the rarity of them. Back in the 60's-70's gunwriters of the day had consumers chasing velocity, hence carbines were not that much in demand, everyone wanted a 22 inch barrel on those pumps. The few that went against the grain tended to buy a carbine in 30-06, probably because it handled heavier bullets better according to gunwriters of the day. I know when I bought my 30-06 carbine in 1979 my LGS didn't have any in stock, all the 22 inch barrels you wanted but no carbines so they had to order mine.
Now fast forward to the present. I think because of what I stated above, there are not to many carbines out there in the used market in .308 and obviously they aren't making them anymore. I looked for YEARS, not because I needed one, but because I wanted one and they are extremely hard to find. If you look hard enough you can find them in 30-06 but .308 carbines are rare birds. So I got to the point that I didn't care what it cost, I just wanted one. A local LGS owner had one(his personal gun) and I bugged him for years, he didn't want to sell, so this year I just kept upping the offer $100 at a time untill he went for it.
I felt I overpaid for it but I didn't care. Then in light of the fact that I saw 2 sell on Gunbroker recently for $1600 and $1800 I realized I did well on the purchase. Additionally the one bbassi mentioned in his post above sold yesterday for $1876.
Now the only Carbine I want is a 760 in .35 Remington, but that one will be real tough if not impossible as they only produced it from 1964 to 1967 and again in 1979 and in that 5 year period only made 454 of them according to records I had gotten from Remington. I'm sure if one came up on Gunbroker it would top out at over 5 grand.
If youre gonna hunt it just buy a reg .35 and have it cut down.
Really wanted one myself, but got a beater regular .35 And i thought about getting it cut down.
Ya know what? It aint exactly what I wanted, and it works so well Im just gonna hafta tolerate it
Benbo, can your eyes make use of a peep sight? OK, an Aperture. I just wondered as they always help me. I am still OK with the ghost ring but a scope is much easier. I look for the scope to become necessary as I'm hitting the 70 year mark soon. Be Well, RZ.
I have A Remington 141 in 35 with a peep. I killed one of my deer with it last year and it worked great. I truly enjoy using the iron sighted guns more then I do scope guns so even though I "need a scope" too, I usually do not use one unless I am down to the last 2 days of a season. Not always, but usually. The deer I shot with my 35 Rem last year from sitting, with a hand rested on a dead tree and the shot was 181 yards. I also killed one whitetail last year with a Marlin 36, 30-30 also with a peep sight and that shot measured at 212 yards. That shot was made from prone resting over a hunting pack.
Come to think of it, of all the kills I made last season, all 6 were made with iron sighted guns. M1 Garand 30-06 30-30s 35 Remington, 303 British and 300 Savages.
So 10Gaugemag, I think if you take the old gun out and hunt with it you'll do OK even without a scope and I'd bet if you make some kills you'll enjoy it and the memories of them more than if you use a scoped gun.
But that's just how I feel...................others may not feel the same way.
Just mounted a USA made Burris Fullfield 1 1/2x on mine today.
My eyes have a hard time picking up a front sight in low light anymore. I hunt the thick brush in creek bottoms so it is dark in there a little longer and gets dark a few minutes earlier than if I were hunting less dense timber or open areas.
I see your point 10gauge. The dot sights or a lit reticle are probably the cats pajamas for the dark times in the day. Good luck with them and please share a photo with us about the hunt and how the gun ran for you. Be Well, RZ.
Found and purchased a nice 30/06 760 from the 70's . Paid too much for it but hey the prices on Remington are jacked up crazy high right now. Already have dies and components so no problem to feed it. Found a Burris "short" mount and with some low rings a Leupy 2.5-8 fits real nice. Will prolly kill sum chit with it this season.
I actually like the kooks of the older 760 it is sleeker with better lines. Not a big fan of squared off foreends. I have a model 14 made in 1920 in 30 rem that weighs about 6 1/4 lbs. Shoots about 2" groups at a hundred yards with a Redfield peep sight and 170 grain bullets. Carries and mounts like a fine shotgun .Those are a nice pair of bookends in the life of the 760. Which one is your favorite.
I actually like the kooks of the older 760 it is sleeker with better lines. Not a big fan of squared off foreends. I have a model 14 made in 1920 in 30 rem that weighs about 6 1/4 lbs. Shoots about 2" groups at a hundred yards with a Redfield peep sight and 170 grain bullets. Carries and mounts like a fine shotgun .Those are a nice pair of bookends in the life of the 760. Which one is your favorite.
I have 7 of them, four 30-06's, a .270. a .308, and a 35 Remington and I like them all. But if I had to pick a favorite, it would be the 30-06 Carbine, which is 1979 vintage.
Good looking kar-byne. Probably a good shooter too. I saw my folding stock set up while looking for other things and have forgotten why it isn't installed yet. So there is a 760, 358 Winchester awaiting its alteration into a truck gun. Barrel needs threading and the stock installed. Don't hold yer breath. Lots of projects in the Que. Be Well, RZ.
Put some more 150 gr. Nosler ballistic tips through the 1977 760 30/06 and confirmed it's a good load. When I can "work" the trigger groups are sub moa. Killed tons of deer with 150 NBT's so I have knowledge of how they work.
Worked it's cousin today also , an early 80's wingmaster police trade in.
Had a 4x Leupold compact on my lone 760. Now wears a 2-7X. Longer tube, so could set it back a little more. Older, my neck doesn't bend like it used to. Could run the 4x compact but over time was a strain. Max comfort w no base mods, just ran a longer tube scope.
Picked up a used but nice shape 7600 yesterday in 270 It has a barrel band sling swivel setup and a 1 piece weaver base. The scope is a bushnell sharpshooter 3x9 with bushnell rings , I m going to shoot it as is a few rds then the scope and rings will get pulled and zero the irons. It will get rescoped with weaver rings holding a Vari X llc 2x7. Will try to make meat with it this fall. Mb
Picked up a used but nice shape 7600 yesterday in 270 It has a barrel band sling swivel setup and a 1 piece weaver base. The scope is a bushnell sharpshooter 3x9 with bushnell rings , I m going to shoot it as is a few rds then the scope and rings will get pulled and zero the irons. It will get rescoped with weaver rings holding a Vari X llc 2x7. Will try to make meat with it this fall. Mb
That’s a good plan. I have the irons zeroed on all of mine but I haven’t used them yet.
Picked up a used but nice shape 7600 yesterday in 270 It has a barrel band sling swivel setup and a 1 piece weaver base. The scope is a bushnell sharpshooter 3x9 with bushnell rings , I m going to shoot it as is a few rds then the scope and rings will get pulled and zero the irons. It will get rescoped with weaver rings holding a Vari X llc 2x7. Will try to make meat with it this fall. Mb
She'll make meat.
That's one pump I've not owned is a .270. I've had almost all the rest except .257R and .223. I've had a .280 a few times though.
That’s a good plan. I have the irons zeroed on all of mine but I haven’t used them yet.
That’s the reason there are NO irons on any CF rifle I have. If the rifle came with irons I took them off EXCEPT a few Roogers lol which weren’t removable.
Used to have Bubba See Thrus in the 70 s Didn’t use them either.
Unnecessary weight and front hanging on objects !!!
Well another plan of mine is kinda retro but IDGF. I have an old red and green box of rem 150 rn softpoint in .277" going to work up a load that's at about 2800 fps for that 7600 to Use on deer this fall. Mb
Well another plan of mine is kinda retro but IDGF. I have an old red and green box of rem 150 rn softpoint in .277" going to work up a load that's at about 2800 fps for that 7600 to Use on deer this fall. Mb
That sounds like a deer fetcher.
I’ve got a 760 with Skinners I might try something similar on.
I think so to my last Black Hills doe fell on the spot to a 150 gr rn Corelokt out of my 30-30 at 99 yards. Lotta old boys used round nose bullets all their lives with perfect results. The places I'll use them 200 yds would be a damn long shot. I guess more than anything while I am still able to I want to experience as many different loads and bullets as I can. Mb
When I first started using CF rounds for deer I used strictly spritzer bullets at or near max loads. I have gradually come to my senses ( haven’t killed a deer at more than 165 yards) and now use mostly round nose bullets at more sedate velocities. Deer are just as dead but a lot less wasted blood shot meat.
I like long for caliber moderate speed bullets. I use the middle of a loading chart as my Max load and sometimes the start load is precise enough for me so I load a bunch and go shooting. Be Well, RZ.
I like long for caliber moderate speed bullets. I use the middle of a loading chart as my Max load and sometimes the start load is precise enough for me so I load a bunch and go shooting. Be Well, RZ.
Rusty, We think alike. More isn't always better. WN
If any will recall the late Don Zutz outdoor writer campaigned a 725 Remington bolt gun in 280 Rem his favorite load featured a 154grain roundnose Hornady for use on Wisconsin whitetails. Don't remember him talking much about other loads. I suppose he shot his share of ammo provided by manufactures like other writers. Mb
So I figured I might as well bench that 7600 270.I.bought the other day with the $60 bushnell sharpshooter scope. I dug thru.my ammo and found a box of 270 brass loaded with wlr primers, 130 nosler solid bases, and 60.0 grs of 4831 from 7/90. It shot 12" left so dialed in a correction right and dial it to the right again. The 3rd is in the black fired 3 more to confirm. Those last 4 shots were in .695" at 50 yards. Looks like a shooter to me, shotgun trigger and all. Mb
So I figured I might as well bench that 7600 270.I.bought the other day with the $60 bushnell sharpshooter scope. I dug thru.my ammo and found a box of 270 brass loaded with wlr primers, 130 nosler solid bases, and 60.0 grs of 4831 from 7/90. It shot 12" left so dialed in a correction right and dial it to the right again. The 3rd is in the black fired 3 more to confirm. Those last 4 shots were in .695" at 50 yards. Looks like a shooter to me, shotgun trigger and all. Mb
MBob, An easy fix to the shotgun trigger problem is a new trigger spring from MCarbo. They even have videos that show you how to do it. Same spring works for 870's, 11-87, 1100's, 760's, 7600's. All my Remingtons wear them.
WN, i have a load for a 1955 year model 760 in 30-06 with 165gr Speer flat base hot cor, it wears the same old Redfield 2-7 in weaver bases and rings it's had since i bought it more than 30 years ago, didn't chrono the load, only set it 2 inches high at 100, dont think it'll matter, just book charge of imr-4831, i dont expect to be let down with accuracy or performance this side of 200 yards.
WN, i have a load for a 1955 year model 760 in 30-06 with 165gr Speer flat base hot cor, it wears the same old Redfield 2-7 in weaver bases and rings it's had since i bought it more than 30 years ago, didn't chrono the load, only set it 2 inches high at 100, dont think it'll matter, just book charge of imr-4831, i dont expect to be let down with accuracy or performance this side of 200 yards.
That's about as American as it gets right there.
I decided to set one my 760's up with Skinners... Well, the rear sight went on great but after attaching the front sight base and drifting the bead into the base it popped outta the darned screw hole.. Oh well, I wanted a carbine anyhow, I'll send it out to the smiths, let him lop a couple inches off and reattach the front sight properly, versus me hamfisting it.
Thanks man, and damn the luck, you'll get it worked out i have no doubt, bitter sweet deal, the old homestead land i was going to hunt with my old bud on has been sold, it's okay, i still gave him the rest of the powder, bullets and primers his dad gave me with the rifle when i bought it over three decades ago, he's got it loaded up and said we'll hunt these old rifles and components somewhere else this year, so not all bad.
So I figured I might as well bench that 7600 270.I.bought the other day with the $60 bushnell sharpshooter scope. I dug thru.my ammo and found a box of 270 brass loaded with wlr primers, 130 nosler solid bases, and 60.0 grs of 4831 from 7/90. It shot 12" left so dialed in a correction right and dial it to the right again. The 3rd is in the black fired 3 more to confirm. Those last 4 shots were in .695" at 50 yards. Looks like a shooter to me, shotgun trigger and all. Mb
MBob, An easy fix to the shotgun trigger problem is a new trigger spring from MCarbo. They even have videos that show you how to do it. Same spring works for 870's, 11-87, 1100's, 760's, 7600's. All my Remingtons wear them.
WN
Thanks Whelen Nut I emailed them about an order. Mb
Beretz, I don't keep up with acronyms and slang real good. If you would , wtf is a skinner? Mb
So I figured I might as well bench that 7600 270.I.bought the other day with the $60 bushnell sharpshooter scope. I dug thru.my ammo and found a box of 270 brass loaded with wlr primers, 130 nosler solid bases, and 60.0 grs of 4831 from 7/90. It shot 12" left so dialed in a correction right and dial it to the right again. The 3rd is in the black fired 3 more to confirm. Those last 4 shots were in .695" at 50 yards. Looks like a shooter to me, shotgun trigger and all. Mb
MBob, An easy fix to the shotgun trigger problem is a new trigger spring from MCarbo. They even have videos that show you how to do it. Same spring works for 870's, 11-87, 1100's, 760's, 7600's. All my Remingtons wear them.
WN
Thanks Whelen Nut I emailed them about an order. Mb
Beretz, I don't keep up with acronyms and slang real good. If you would , wtf is a skinner? Mb
So I figured I might as well bench that 7600 270.I.bought the other day with the $60 bushnell sharpshooter scope. I dug thru.my ammo and found a box of 270 brass loaded with wlr primers, 130 nosler solid bases, and 60.0 grs of 4831 from 7/90. It shot 12" left so dialed in a correction right and dial it to the right again. The 3rd is in the black fired 3 more to confirm. Those last 4 shots were in .695" at 50 yards. Looks like a shooter to me, shotgun trigger and all. Mb
MBob, An easy fix to the shotgun trigger problem is a new trigger spring from MCarbo. They even have videos that show you how to do it. Same spring works for 870's, 11-87, 1100's, 760's, 7600's. All my Remingtons wear them.
WN
Thanks Whelen Nut I emailed them about an order. Mb
Beretz, I don't keep up with acronyms and slang real good. If you would , wtf is a skinner? Mb
WN, i have a load for a 1955 year model 760 in 30-06 with 165gr Speer flat base hot cor, it wears the same old Redfield 2-7 in weaver bases and rings it's had since i bought it more than 30 years ago, didn't chrono the load, only set it 2 inches high at 100, dont think it'll matter, just book charge of imr-4831, i dont expect to be let down with accuracy or performance this side of 200 yards.
Gunner, those old Hot Cores work very well with 4831. 2" high @100 should be the cat's ass! Each season I obsess over long range accuracy for Kansas only to shoot my buck at 50yds!
So I figured I might as well bench that 7600 270.I.bought the other day with the $60 bushnell sharpshooter scope. I dug thru.my ammo and found a box of 270 brass loaded with wlr primers, 130 nosler solid bases, and 60.0 grs of 4831 from 7/90. It shot 12" left so dialed in a correction right and dial it to the right again. The 3rd is in the black fired 3 more to confirm. Those last 4 shots were in .695" at 50 yards. Looks like a shooter to me, shotgun trigger and all. Mb
That's no surprise to me. My .270 7600 is a consistent 1.5" rifle at 100 yards with 130gr Federal blue box. It only wears a 1.5-4x Leupold so I'm sure that could be shrunk down a bit with more magnification and a proper bench. Typically I just shoot in the prone with a loop sling somewhere out in the desert. I did manage a 2" group with that rifle at around 275 yards last fall. It's the most accurate rifle I own, though that's not too surprising as my others are .30-30s and rack-grade ARs.
My 7600 was the butt of more than a few jokes among friends (all AK/AR guys) before they shot it. They changed their tune afterwards.
DeoVindice, match a dot to your reticle with the magnification set at 4x. A dot that's not much larger than what your reticle center covers at your zeroing range will help tighten groups at the bench.
WN, i have a load for a 1955 year model 760 in 30-06 with 165gr Speer flat base hot cor, it wears the same old Redfield 2-7 in weaver bases and rings it's had since i bought it more than 30 years ago, didn't chrono the load, only set it 2 inches high at 100, dont think it'll matter, just book charge of imr-4831, i dont expect to be let down with accuracy or performance this side of 200 yards.
Gunner, those old Hot Cores work very well with 4831. 2" high @100 should be the cat's ass! Each season I obsess over long range accuracy for Kansas only to shoot my buck at 50yds!
LOL, that's about right WN, though not as bad as me on my first elk hunt, ho lee crap the stuff i read in gun rags about how tough they were..................
Not perfect job of posting a hunting photo, but I got this spike buck on public hunting land basically in the Jackson County Forest near Merrillan, WI. Rifle is a Rem 760 in 35 Rem manufactured circa 1980. It's sorta deluxe with higher gloss wood. Some bright individual before me trimmed the barrel from 22" to 18". They did a good job and the crown is perfect. Accuracy is outstanding. I really enjoy hunting and shooting with this particular thunder stick. It is one of my primary gas-checked cast bullet flinging platforms
Not perfect job of posting a hunting photo, but I got this spike buck on public hunting land basically in the Jackson County Forest near Merrillan, WI. Rifle is a Rem 760 in 35 Rem manufactured circa 1980. It's sorta deluxe with higher gloss wood. Some bright individual before me trimmed the barrel from 22" to 18". They did a good job and the crown is perfect. Accuracy is outstanding. I really enjoy hunting and shooting with this particular thunder stick. It is one of my primary gas-checked cast bullet flinging platforms
Not perfect job of posting a hunting photo, but I got this spike buck on public hunting land basically in the Jackson County Forest near Merrillan, WI. Rifle is a Rem 760 in 35 Rem manufactured circa 1980. It's sorta deluxe with higher gloss wood. Some bright individual before me trimmed the barrel from 22" to 18". They did a good job and the crown is perfect. Accuracy is outstanding. I really enjoy hunting and shooting with this particular thunder stick. It is one of my primary gas-checked cast bullet flinging platforms
Not a huge fan of the 760/7600 even though I have owned 5-6. That said, if I could find an affordable 35 Rem. I would snap it up and call it a day on them. My son has one and thinks the world of it.
Not perfect job of posting a hunting photo, but I got this spike buck on public hunting land basically in the Jackson County Forest near Merrillan, WI. Rifle is a Rem 760 in 35 Rem manufactured circa 1980. It's sorta deluxe with higher gloss wood. Some bright individual before me trimmed the barrel from 22" to 18". They did a good job and the crown is perfect. Accuracy is outstanding. I really enjoy hunting and shooting with this particular thunder stick. It is one of my primary gas-checked cast bullet flinging platforms
Not a huge fan of the 760/7600 even though I have owned 5-6. That said, if I could find an affordable 35 Rem. I would snap it up and call it a day on them. My son has one and thinks the world of it.
Not perfect job of posting a hunting photo, but I got this spike buck on public hunting land basically in the Jackson County Forest near Merrillan, WI. Rifle is a Rem 760 in 35 Rem manufactured circa 1980. It's sorta deluxe with higher gloss wood. Some bright individual before me trimmed the barrel from 22" to 18". They did a good job and the crown is perfect. Accuracy is outstanding. I really enjoy hunting and shooting with this particular thunder stick. It is one of my primary gas-checked cast bullet flinging platforms
Not a huge fan of the 760/7600 even though I have owned 5-6. That said, if I could find an affordable 35 Rem. I would snap it up and call it a day on them. My son has one and thinks the world of it.
I first owned a waffle top Marlin 336RC in 35 rem, and later came across this 760 pump. Trigger isn't the best, but it works. I'm glad others have posted upgrades and possible sources. I think a slim model 7 in 35 rem would be just the ticket. Pressure has always been held to only modest levels in this round, but Lane Simpson posted the possibilities of what this cartridge can do in stronger actios in an article of Handloader 1982
Not perfect job of posting a hunting photo, but I got this spike buck on public hunting land basically in the Jackson County Forest near Merrillan, WI. Rifle is a Rem 760 in 35 Rem manufactured circa 1980. It's sorta deluxe with higher gloss wood. Some bright individual before me trimmed the barrel from 22" to 18". They did a good job and the crown is perfect. Accuracy is outstanding. I really enjoy hunting and shooting with this particular thunder stick. It is one of my primary gas-checked cast bullet flinging platforms
Not a huge fan of the 760/7600 even though I have owned 5-6. That said, if I could find an affordable 35 Rem. I would snap it up and call it a day on them. My son has one and thinks the world of it.
I first owned a waffle top Marlin 336RC in 35 rem, and later came across this 760 pump. Trigger isn't the best, but it works. I'm glad others have posted upgrades and possible sources. I think a slim model 7 in 35 rem would be just the ticket. Pressure has always been held to only modest levels in this round, but Lane Simpson posted the possibilities of what this cartridge can do in stronger actios in an article of Handloader 1982
Gaschekt, When I started messing with 35Rems years ago I used Lane Simpson's loads in my 760's. Never had any problems with them. Then I had one, a carbine rechambered to 358Win which has become a favorite bear rifle with 200gr TTSX and TAC. I call it my Mini Whelen.
Remington 760 newbie here. I found a 760 in 35 rem locally that I'm interested in. It has no checking or cuts on the forearm or butt. Does that tell you anything about originality? Barrel date code appears to be B ZZ
Edited to add the butt looks like it's been bubba'd. Notice the scalloped out part by the top of the stock. Kinda like a inverted check piece.
Great looking 170 Savage, and in .35 Remington to boot. I rarely see one and when I do it's usually 30-30. Would love to find one in that condition and in .35 Remington. It will be a hammer I'm sure, good luck with it.
Handled a few sav 170's it's built a lot the same as the pump shot gun made by savage. I literally wore it out in 3 years when I was a teenager. You guys don't have any competition from me on them. I'll stick with my 7600. Let's get back on the Remington track. Mb
Handled a few sav 170's it's built a lot the same as the pump shot gun made by savage. I literally wore it out in 3 years when I was a teenager. You guys don't have any competition from me on them. I'll stick with my 7600. Let's get back on the Remington track. Mb
10/4 there Bob.
I have a Model Six 270 that I bought before 1993 < edit: make that 1985 ** > Shot a bunch and killed a bunch of WT. NO PROBLEMERO. I'll keep my mouth shut about more. ENUFF said.
I found a Remington 760 pump on Gunbroker in .358 Winchester. Trouble is Remington never chambered a 760 in .358 Winchester.
I'm not breathless about the price, nor am I breathless about the way they ground metal off the barrel to re stamp it .358 Winchester. I have no idea who did the work, but a gunsmith and a phone number is listed for questions.
Agreed. The date code I was able to enlarge and it was manufactured June 1979, the last year of the 760 production and only one out of the 5 years that they made a .35 Remington 760 CARBINE.
Records from the old Remington site before they went under indicated only a total of 454 760 Carbines in .35 Remington were produced in total. so if that gun was truly a CARBINE, in .35 Remington and someone butchered it like that to make it a .358 Winchester, that would be a sin. Even if not a true Carbine, a standard 760 in .35 Remington in good to excellent condition is worth $1200 or a little better today.
However, I've yet to see a true Carbine for sale where the seller didn't show the "CARBINE" stamp on the barrel and this guy did not show the section of the barrel where "CARBINE" is stamped so I'm thinking it's a 22 inch standard model lopped down to 18 & 1/2 inches. If it was a true .35 Remington Carbine and it was unaltered he prolly could have added about 3 grand to his asking price before he butchered it up.
the 760 carbines in 35 rem were only produced until about 64 or 65. that 358 with the hideous ground down stamp is not even an original carbine from what i saw. no CARBINE on the left side of barrel. it could have been a 35 rifle, since 79 was the last year for those. but with that grinder job its hard to tell. as soon as i saw that i immediately wondered about the quality of the rest of the conversion. hideous.
Well I picked up a 1 st year 760 in 35 Rem the other day ,no ammo in town. I'm at Colorado Springd gs right.now and found a box of mid 60 's 200 gr rn Remingtons got them bought. Anybody have favorites in the factory offerings.? Mb
Well I picked up a 1 st year 760 in 35 Rem the other day ,no ammo in town. I'm at Colorado Springd gs right.now and found a box of mid 60 's 200 gr rn Remingtons got them bought. Anybody have favorites in the factory offerings.? Mb
In factory ammo I like Remington brand with the 200 grain roundnose core lokt bullets. But of course since all of the big 3 ammo makers only do seasonal runs on .35 Remington, you take what you can get, shoot it up and reload it.
The 35 guys over at Marlinowners.com claim that Hornady 200 grain roundnose bullets are to hard for .35 Rem velocities and they don't open up, they say the Sierras are better, and most will say that the 200 grain roundnose Remington core lokt is the best bullet of all in the .35 Rem, either in factory ammo or as a reloading proposition if you can find the bullets.
I too have some older .35 Rem ammo, I think from the late 50's, early 60's, look at the prices on them.
Well I picked up a 1 st year 760 in 35 Rem the other day ,no ammo in town. I'm at Colorado Springd gs right.now and found a box of mid 60 's 200 gr rn Remingtons got them bought. Anybody have favorites in the factory offerings.? Mb
Nice pick up. The 200 CL has long been considered the standard. My dad used a 35 forever in the 336. He always loaded a Herters 200 RN over 3031.
I thought using one of those was considered cultural appropriation unless you were a Hutterite, Mennonite, or Amish. No?
I know what culture I'm part of and where I belong but at 66 I'd like to experience a few things outside of where my normal interest is while I still can or want to. That ok? Mb
RedRyders were the BB gun to have but I ended up with a Daisy25 when I was 8yo. Started long time love of pumpguns. 572 Remington for 10th birthday accounted for lots of squirrels and rabbits. 742 semi in 280Remington when I was 16. Carried and hunted it for years. Finally reached the round count where the chattering of the receiver rails had me put it aside. After sitting idle for many years I collected all the parts and converted it to a pump. Like it even more now. Companion to a Model 14 in 32 Rem and a 141 in 35Rem.
What the eff is a hutterite? Sounds like people way too into Star Wars worshipping Jabba the Hutt.
On-topic. I used a 7600 in .270 for several years in MN. Slick handling and accurate, but the stock used to crack me right in the cheekbone something terrible. I sent it down the river after looking like I got punched in the face one too many times.
Well it's dealer set up day here in Colo Sprgs . I made the rounds and found 3 boxes of 200 gr power points factory rounds and bought them. Have 95 bucks in them should be ok now. Mb
Well it's dealer set up day here in Colo Sprgs . I made the rounds and found 3 boxes of 200 gr power points factory rounds and bought them. Have 95 bucks in them should be ok now. Mb
i find those to be pretty much the same as the corelokts in my guns and have a bunch. they'll kill a deer no problem and shoot to the same POI.
Thanks finally got a magazine that works in the gun. I had 3 remington 150 grain loads , they shot a 1" group at 50 yds about 7" left so a drifting of the sights was next. After 2 adjustments I have 200 grain power pts hitting 1.5" high at 50 yards and that is as low as the rear sight will go. It should be ready for some deer hunting. Mb
I put a 1.5-6 leupold on the rifle I picked up a few months ago. Loaded some 150 NBT's moderately and 1.75 high at a 100 is on the money at 200. It is ready to go.
I have always thought the 760/7600 types were handy rifles. A few months ago, I ran across a Model Six, 30-06, in Very good condition. I could not pass it up. By the date code, it appears to be 2nd month / 2nd year of production. I have not shot it yet, and will be quite sometime before I do. A shoulder issue, but look forward to shooting it. I agree, very easy carrying rifle.
Originally Posted by MagMarc
I decided to do most of my hunting this year with a 760 06. After a season of use and 2 deer with it I gotta say, I love the darned rifle. It shoots right around MOA with several loads, handles great, and it's easy to carry.
I put a 1.5-6 leupold on the rifle I picked up a few months ago. Loaded some 150 NBT's moderately and 1.75 high at a 100 is on the money at 200. It is ready to go.
[quote=ldmay375] I have always thought the 760/7600 types were handy rifles. A few months ago, I ran across a Model Six, 30-06, in Very good condition. I could not pass it up. By the date code, it appears to be 2nd month / 2nd year of production. I have not shot it yet, and will be quite sometime before I do. A shoulder issue, but look forward to shooting it. I agree, very easy carrying rifle.
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I have a Model Six 30-06 and have killed WT with it. In 2016 I posted these bucks IN THIS THREAD.
I'll also be hunting this rifle this season as well. It ain't going no where!
Shot a few loads through mine today. 180 grain sierra roundnose bullets, 4895 and w760 powders. Very tight groups. I'm impressed with this rifle. 308 BTw.
Last week I acquired this unfired BPR in .243 Win. I have mounts and rings on order, and I should have time to work through some loads before firearms deer opens up. The pump action is a bit unorthodox, but I doubt it will take much to get used to. We'll see how it shoots compared to my 7600's.
Last week I acquired this unfired BPR in .243 Win. I have mounts and rings on order, and I should have time to work through some loads before firearms deer opens up. The pump action is a bit unorthodox, but I doubt it will take much to get used to. We'll see how it shoots compared to my 7600's.
I don’t think you see many of them because they’re strange and a bit awkward to operate at first. But after a few mags full you get the hang of it. I’ve shot a 30-06 and a .300 WM. They shot pretty well.
Over the many years, I've tried darn near every configuration of Leupold scopes on my 760's/7600's. and have mostly settled on the VX-II or 2, 2-7x, Duplex, for just about all of them. Except the .358Win wears a Vari-X III, 1.75-6x E, which is pretty much the same thing. All in the lowest mounts possible, as Super Cub has already mentioned.
Oh, and some of my "swamp rifles" have Weaver PIVOT mounts/rings. (Let the flames begin) AND, BTW, they have never failed me over 40+ years of using them. They come in very handy when you have to look for a bear in a cedar swamp at near dark.
2 other options are reasonable. Used from individuals. Gun Shows.
The guys wife is probably going to be banging him on the head with a cast iron frying pan when she finds out how much he paid for it, LMAO.
Dat is freakin crazy .
Wow. That is nuts. I have a '69 Rem 742 308 Carbine that has visited Ahlmans for the pump conversion. I wonder what it would bring on GB? I could list it as "rare".
I hunted hogs and roe deer in Germany with a 1980 Rem Model 760 in 30-06. It was light and accurate despite the heavy trigger. When I moved back to the US, I had a gunsmith tune the trigger and add a recoil pad. My Dad has that rifle now and favors it over many others.
Over the many years, I've tried darn near every configuration of Leupold scopes on my 760's/7600's. and have mostly settled on the VX-II or 2, 2-7x, Duplex, for just about all of them. Except the .358Win wears a Vari-X III, 1.75-6x E, which is pretty much the same thing. All in the lowest mounts possible, as Super Cub has already mentioned.
Oh, and some of my "swamp rifles" have Weaver PIVOT mounts/rings. (Let the flames begin) AND, BTW, they have never failed me over 40+ years of using them. They come in very handy when you have to look for a bear in a cedar swamp at near dark.
WN
That old 1.75x6 would be slick. Kinda forgot about it.
I no longer have any ‘short range’ rifles.... so I have 4–12X40 s on my Model Sixes. 4–12 covers any/all situations, even thick cover. BTDT...., 4X works.
Nice rifles men, my 1955 760 pump '06 wears the same old gloss 2-7 Redfield that was on it when i bought her over 30 years ago, it's zeroed with 165gr hot cors and ready for some creek bottom slipping.
I hadn’t had time to work up any loads yet. Partially because I wasn’t sure I was going to keep it. I bought it right. So, the thought of selling was strong.
Know the feeling, sometimes guy's got to shoot something a time Or two to get that feeling of confidence that "this will work". Way back when they cleared out the M77RS 35 whelen's I bought one. The Rem fac ammo was 200gr PSP'sand 250rn's. $8/box. Long story short is I worked up a 225 npt load that covered deer to elk. Sold the last 5 boxes of 250 rn's last spring to a scalper sob at a gunshow for 45/box. .RCBS diesturn 1 fired brass into 35whelens with 1 stroke perfectly. Man's got to look after his money or it will be someone elses. Luck for the opener. Mb
I hope someone will start a photo thread here of deer killed with the pump rifle. It really wouldn't matter what year they are from. We have a few on this thread. Be Well, RZ.
Just sighted in the 760 30-06. Hopefully will have a few pics to post in the next few weeks. Hunting a friends property and he wants me to thin out the does. Can’t eat the antlers, but they are nice to look at...
Bigger the antlers usually bigger the deer= More meat to eat. I allways put in for a any tag with antlerless second choice. Antl erless beats no tag by a great margin. Be well eat well Mb
The new December issue of Shooting Times magazine has a feature article on the .35 Whelen by Layne Simpson. With all the interest in pump action rifles, I'm sure regretting selling off my minty .257 Roberts M760 or even my .35 Remington M141. Too many guns with too little time.
Here is my latest score…a 35 Whelen Carbine…my new favorite deer rifle
Nice flame thrower. (snark)
Haha. Honestly I didn’t think it was too bad…I only fired one round to check the sights (because of the lack of available ammo). I was surprised that it really didn’t recoil offensively and didn’t notice excessive muzzle blast. My 375 H&H carbine is a different story…
Here is my latest score…a 35 Whelen Carbine…my new favorite deer rifle
Nice flame thrower. (snark)
Haha. Honestly I didn’t think it was too bad…I only fired one round to check the sights (because of the lack of available ammo). I was surprised that it really didn’t recoil offensively and didn’t notice excessive muzzle blast. My 375 H&H carbine is a different story…
I thought the same thing a few weeks ago when I shot mine. It wasn’t bad at all.
Checked zero on my .35 rem 760.....perfect. 2nd day of getting rained on. What a crappy opener. Only seen 2 deer each day and no antlers. One adult doe and fawn yesterday.
2 fawns today.
Cuz said an adult doe slipped across the road. Proly mama to the two knuckle heads I saw.
That a limbsaver slide on? How effective is it? Mb
Very effective. I’m not overly sensitive to recoil but the stock on this 760 bothers me. I fired 60 full power rounds last weekend sighting in and practicing and my shoulder was fine.
Very effective. I’m not overly sensitive to recoil but the stock on this 760 bothers me. I fired 60 full power rounds last weekend sighting in and practicing and my shoulder was fine.
+1
I had an ancient 16 gauge single shot that my grandad had hacked the barrel down to 18" on, and it was an absolute horror show to shoot anything more than extra light trap loads in.
One of those slip on Limbsavers made the recoil very tolerable, but it did also add about an inch to the LOP, which threw my aim off a bit. They're definitely worth the price if LOP isn't an issue for you.
Had a shot at 3x3 at 50 yards tonite, looked simple thought what the hell why not. Well not is what happened apparently when I eased the action shut on the 7600 wasn't hard enough to make it go into battery but the trigger pulled and hammer flew but click nada the round is out the in the grass some where. So until I find it I don't know if I got a firing pin strike or not. Anybody else ever had that happen? Mb
They don't like being gingerly operated, at least the 7600 I had didn't. If you didn't slam it home, you were gonna get a FTF every time. The bolt doesn't lock up unless you have some oomph closing it.
Had a shot at 3x3 at 50 yards tonite, looked simple thought what the hell why not. Well not is what happened apparently when I eased the action shut on the 7600 wasn't hard enough to make it go into battery but the trigger pulled and hammer flew but click nada the round is out the in the grass some where. So until I find it I don't know if I got a firing pin strike or not. Anybody else ever had that happen? Mb
Only a novice pump hunter waits till time to shoot to ‘chamber’ a round.
I’ve never had a F T F in any of my pumps over the years.
Well jwall I'm new to 7600's but allways break the action when I climb over a fence. When I sat down in the blind I eased it shut. Won't make that mistake again rest assured. Mb
Those hunters who like the short rem 760 carbine with open sights Larry Benoit style can still buy that. Remington now makes a 7600 but it comes with a raised comb stock suitable for a scope. You can buy a straight shotgun stock from Remington with the same finish as the 7600. It was easy to change out and when you bring the gun up it lines up perfectly with the open sight just like the 760 did.
Well jwall I'm new to 7600's but allways break the action when I climb over a fence. When I sat down in the blind I eased it shut. Won't make that mistake again rest assured. Mb
Great safety practice to have really. Can’t fault a guy for that. But I suspect that was your issue. You’re new to them and if you stick with the gun, I think you’ll really like them. It’s my favorite style. I think experience is the issue here and you learned from it. Slam it home when you crack the action and you’ll be fine.
Well jwall I'm new to 7600's but allways break the action when I climb over a fence. When I sat down in the blind I eased it shut. Won't make that mistake again rest assured. Mb
The problem is even more exaggerated with the 740/742/7400 semi-automatics. They have to slam home or you got issues. And noisier than the pumps when doing it too.
Heads up for anyone looking for a nice early 760 in .35 Rem. LGS just took one in. No pictures yet on their website but it's very nice, I'd say metal 95% with a some finish flaking on the buttstock.. It has sling studs added but is not drilled and tapped for scope or receiver sight. Don't find them like this often. https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/used-remington-760-35rem-807698
One of the guys that hunt the property next to my buddies pulled out a 760. That had a ton of little notches on it. Like 30 or 40. I have always heard of notches on an outlaws gun, cowboy days. It was cool to see one.
For the first time in nearly 20 years I did not carry a pump rifle in the deer woods. Never even took it out of the safe. For the first time in 14-15 years I did not kill a deer here in the northeast. Coincidence????
For the first time in nearly 20 years I did not carry a pump rifle in the deer woods. Never even took it out of the safe. For the first time in 14-15 years I did not kill a deer here in the northeast. Coincidence????
For the first time in nearly 20 years I did not carry a pump rifle in the deer woods. Never even took it out of the safe. For the first time in 14-15 years I did not kill a deer here in the northeast. Coincidence????
That's what you get!
yep. You insulted the pump rifle gods. That's your penance.
But I helped drag 2 deer that were killed with pumps and I found my brother a near mint Rem 14 chambered in 35 Remington. I would have thought that just those gestures would have placated the gods. They are a fickle bunch I see.
But I helped drag 2 deer that were killed with pumps and I found my brother a near mint Rem 14 chambered in 35 Remington. I would have thought that just those gestures would have placated the gods. They are a fickle bunch I see.
The mojo from a pump is not transferable like that 😂
I have had a few 7600’s but no so many 760’s. I sold one a while back and have sellers remorse. I put another up for sale at a decent price and it didn’t sell. So, I decided to see how it shot. It is no longer for sale at the price I was asking. It shoots great with everything I’ve tried. It happens to be chambered in the great 30-06.
This one is older than I am and I've been deer hunting 48 years. It is an '06 and it only seem to like Remington 150gn. I guess that's appropriate. I have one more 760 & a 141. It's always a coin toss as to which one to carry.
This one is older than I am and I've been deer hunting 48 years. It is an '06 and it only seem to like Remington 150gn. I guess that's appropriate. I have one more 760 & a 141. It's always a coin toss as to which one to carry.
I found a 2 nice 760's at a LGS last week. More than I'd like to spend but less than the current going rate. Both were good clean specimens. Not shot a lot.
I'm going to have a look on Friday after a site visit I have in the area.
I found a 2 nice 760's at a LGS last week. More than I'd like to spend but less than the current going rate. Both were good clean specimens. Not shot a lot.
I'm going to have a look on Friday after a site visit I have in the area.
So what was the story on these 2 760's Tzone?? Any carbines? Rare calibers? Inquiring minds want to know.
Well, I carried my Remington 700 for most of the season looking for bucks. The last Saturday I gave up the horn hunt and pulled the new .300 savage out.
First drive of the day put a little one down for a nap.
Didn't need anymore as my boy and father tagged several each already. So I continued looking for horns for the rest of the day.
Always a joy to carry a 760, was glad to find this deal and happy to smack a little doe with it.
I found a 2 nice 760's at a LGS last week. More than I'd like to spend but less than the current going rate. Both were good clean specimens. Not shot a lot.
I'm going to have a look on Friday after a site visit I have in the area.
So what was the story on these 2 760's Tzone?? Any carbines? Rare calibers? Inquiring minds want to know.
Nah, just normal 760's in 30-06. No carbines. Both from the late 70's or early 80's. Both in good shape. One for $600 and one for $800. The one for $800 has a Tasco scope on it. So, I'm trying to figure out why it's $200 more. It's newer and if I was really picky, not as nice as the other.
Why not a 35??? I guess I haven't shot a deer yet so I don't really have a dog in this one. The 270 just plain works. I don't have one. That is a nice buck though. Did you get a camera angle that hides the rope burns on the neck? Be Well, RZ.
Picked up a 760 this afternoon. 30-06, late 70’s vintage.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Seriously though, have y'all been watching the prices of 760/7600 on GB and the like? They seem to be a better investment than gold or crypto right now! I can't believe what they are bringing and what the sellers think they are worth. Check out this frankingun.
Yeah TZone I agree, but you live in a rifle rich environment. Here we have very limited choices in LGS and when one shows up it's often gone the same day. For example, I put a pretty 1965 model 742 on consignment 12/27. (I know, not a pump but humor me) I just could not get it to shoot to my standards. Anyway, the dope at the LGS pulls out a book of gun values and tells me it's worth $350 tops. I told him I wanted $650 in my pocket, which with their markup put the tag at $815. The guy behind the counter insists it will never sell and goes so far as to write "must be picked up in 30 days if not sold" on my receipt.
I got a check dated 1/3 for the full amount I wanted this week, which means it didn't last a week at that price. The wife said I should have asked more. lol
Picked up a 760 this afternoon. 30-06, late 70’s vintage.
'Grats on the new stick T, i have my old 1955 year model 760 '06 across my lap right now, didn't get to hunt with old bud at family homestead last fall, it got sold, no worries, about to finish shooting the rest of the 165gr Speer hot cores, think i'll load some 200gr Woodleighs over H-4831 and see how they fly, man that 2-7 Redfield mounted in low Weaver rings and bases is a perfect fit, maybe 3/16ths clearance over the barrel, it's almost like they knew what they were doing back in the day ; ]
Nothing wrong with the heavy for caliber core-lokts T, especially at 308/30-06 speeds, the Hot Cores shot around 1.5" at 100 for three, not bad for a heavy trigger and a book max load of IMR-4831, it would have been fine for intended purposes and range, the big Woodleighs are partial boxes i'll shoot up in this rifle, have some 200gr A-Frames and partitions too, also about 55 150gr partitions, betting most any book max load of H-4831 will make them fly plenty well enough for 200 yard deer and pigs.
I never even chronoed the Speers, thought was if i get hit by a semi running 55 mph or 70 mph it wont matter ; ]
I'm going to throw this here for you pump gun guys. Remington must have recently made a run of the '06 - 180gr round nose ammo so popular with the 760/742 crowd. Midway has it and several other places too. This stuff is a seasonal run and I doubt it will be around for long. The SKU# is 047700054803. Get it while you can.
I had a Winchester 64 in 30-30. I did not like it - too long, grip was not right - I much prefer the 94 it is handier. No wonder the 94 out sold the 64 many times over.
I've had a few 7600's and they shot amazingly well. The best one was a 270 and I have shot 5-shot groups 1/4" at a hundred meters with it. I gave it to my son, who sold it.
I had a 76, which had a birchwood stock, A buddy wanted that one and I let it go.
I have a 760 in 30-06 that every now and then I have thought about selling. It has oil finished stock and cut checkering. There's a crack in the fore-end, but it remains functional. I just bought a second magazine for it. It is actually for a 742 but it works fine. With the 742 magazine I just can't slide the action shut with that magazine when empty.
I had a Winchester 64 in 30-30. I did not like it - too long, grip was not right - I much prefer the 94 it is handier. No wonder the 94 out sold the 64 many times over.
I've had a few 7600's and they shot amazingly well. The best one was a 270 and I have shot 5-shot groups 1/4" at a hundred meters with it. I gave it to my son, who sold it.
I had a 76, which had a birchwood stock, A buddy wanted that one and I let it go.
I have a 760 in 30-06 that every now and then I have thought about selling. It has oil finished stock and cut checkering. There's a crack in the fore-end, but it remains functional. I just bought a second magazine for it. It is actually for a 742 but it works fine. With the 742 magazine I just can't slide the action shut with that magazine when empty.
I just bought a second magazine for it. It is actually for a 742 but it works fine. With the 742 magazine I just can't slide the action shut with that magazine when empty.
They are, and what is driving the GB prices. You see a 7600 on there and with 9 days left, there's 16 bids and the price is double what it would have been a year and a half ago. If people stop buying at insane prices, the market will correct itself.
You all are gonna make me buy a pump Remington if you don’t quit bringing this thread u all the time!!!
Agreed, it is like a gut punch every time it comes up because you guys posting these links to the outlandish prices these things sell for only keeps reminding me of the pittance I got for a minty 760 .257 Roberts.
They are, and what is driving the GB prices. You see a 7600 on there and with 9 days left, there's 16 bids and the price is double what it would have been a year and a half ago. If people stop buying at insane prices, the market will correct itself.
That myrtle wood stock is gorgeous
INSANE PEOPLE----They Are The Ones Who VOTE For DemoRats!
I have a decent 7600 in 30-06 and an as new 35 Rem. I was thinking of selling the 06 or reboring it to 9.3. What is it worth if I sell in - not on GB??
7600 carbine in 35 Whelen. I picked this up new a couple years ago from a friend's shop, got as far as mounting a scope & forming some brass from .30-06, but unfortunately this one hasn't seen the range or the woods yet.
I have a Remington 141 in 35 Remington that I love. Always wanted to take a 760 in 35 rem and get it rechambered to 358.
then this should be right up your alley. 35 REM lol In all honesty you'd be hundreds ahead to send a 308 to JES if you really wanted a 358. (I've been dreaming of doing the same thing.)
I have a Remington 141 in 35 Remington that I love. Always wanted to take a 760 in 35 rem and get it rechambered to 358.
then this should be right up your alley. 35 REM lol In all honesty you'd be hundreds ahead to send a 308 to JES if you really wanted a 358. (I've been dreaming of doing the same thing.)
I have a Remington 141 in 35 Remington that I love. Always wanted to take a 760 in 35 rem and get it rechambered to 358.
then this should be right up your alley. 35 REM lol In all honesty you'd be hundreds ahead to send a 308 to JES if you really wanted a 358. (I've been dreaming of doing the same thing.)
Things are really nuts these days!
That gun has 9 days to go on Gunbroker, and I'll bet it goes north of 5 grand, and it's not in the greatest condition, BUT, it's a .35 Remington CARBINE.
According to someone on the 760/7600 FB page, there were only 456 35rem carbines ever produced. Someone must want that to complete a collection. Way too beat up to be any other explanation IMO.
According to someone on the 760/7600 FB page, there were only 456 35rem carbines ever produced. Someone must want that to complete a collection. Way too beat up to be any other explanation IMO.
Actually Brent, from my research, only 454 total in the 6 years they did produce them.
1961, 1964-1967, and 1979 if anyone is interested.
I have a decent 7600 in 30-06 and an as new 35 Rem. I was thinking of selling the 06 or reboring it to 9.3. What is it worth if I sell in - not on GB??
It depends on a lot of factors. Wood stock? Synthetic stock? Old? The .35 Rem is worth a ridiculous amount of money GB or not, but I'd keep that one. It's my favorite of the 7600's.
The '06 in decent shape, used but well taken care of is realistically $700-750. Which is still probably more than you bought it for.
I have a 7600 in 30-06.I have had the gun 3 years now and when it shoots it does so way better than me. That said the first year I had it I had a light strike on the primer, lost a good deer. I took it to a gunsmith it was cleaned and fired with no problems. Fast forward to this past Tue eve, a wall hanger comes out on a clear cut about 100 yrds, get on him click, rack a round, click, rack another click, then once more for good measure, click. They were all light strikes on the primer. Is this a common problem, and can it be fixed for good . I have lost hope of it going back in the woods with this problem. I used some rem oil on it Wed afternoon and fired 8 rounds through it with no problems, the 4 light strikes and 4 more. Any ideas would be great. Pm or a post. Thanks Tommy Ps I love the gun but only when it goes bang.
The 4 light strikes were from the same batch, next 4 were from a different batch #. The firing pin seemed to be very dry, I put a lil dry lube with a q tip and it seemed to free it up, I may have went the wrong way with the oil, just not sure. Thanks all tips will be checked out and tried.
Try removing the bolt assembly and soaking in some Coleman fuel and let it sit for a few minutes, then slosh it around in the gas, then air dry and try again. I had a similar problem with a Weatherby Mark V lightweight .30-06 some years ago. Turned out to be crappy headspace on crappy Hornady factory ammo. A bunch of rounds later from various factory loads and my hand loads and nary a misfire. After cleaning bolts like that, I put a super light coat of Ballistol on the exterior of the bolt and then wipe off. Happy Trails
Yes it was all factory ammo, I know it was rem cor lock 165 grn but it does great with it. Thanks Dave I will for sure look into that, and I am still on the fence about swaping the firing pin, i am thinking a full swap and see what happens. Hammer spring and firing pin. It will take a lot of rounds before I can even think about taking it back to hunt with.
If you bought the rifle used, the original owner may have left the hammer cocked and set the spring. I would remove the trigger group and spray the back of the bolt with brake cleaner several times and work the firing pin after each time I sprayed and clean up the trigger group. Taking the rifle apart would be the last thing I'd try since it shoots so well.
I agree Garry but honestly I've been shaking my head at almost every 760/7600 on GB lately. There was a beater 760 carbine I bid up to 650 the other day but let it go. I've been looking for either a carbine or a rifle in bad enough shape I don't feel guilty cutting down for a project I have in mind, but at today's prices I'm just going to put it on the back burner until people come to their senses.
I agree Garry but honestly I've been shaking my head at almost every 760/7600 on GB lately. There was a beater 760 carbine I bid up to 650 the other day but let it go. I've been looking for either a carbine or a rifle in bad enough shape I don't feel guilty cutting down for a project I have in mind, but at today's prices I'm just going to put it on the back burner until people come to their senses.
I agree with you fully Brent, Gunbroker is crazy and definitely not the place to buy. Happy Birthday also. I have been lucky looking in several LGS's here for what I call the "Catskill Syndrome guns" but they've been very scarce as of late.
On another note, I picked up a case of the newer run 180gr round nose corelokts for my -06 last week. This was the first 6 shots. 2 touching, pulled the 3rd high. 4th made the clover leaf. Then I adjusted the 2-7 a little and 5,6 are at 3 o'clock in the bull. I think they should do in that gun.
Yes it was all factory ammo, I know it was rem cor lock 165 grn but it does great with it. Thanks Dave I will for sure look into that, and I am still on the fence about swaping the firing pin, i am thinking a full swap and see what happens. Hammer spring and firing pin. It will take a lot of rounds before I can even think about taking it back to hunt with.
I’d check hammer spring and headspace first and then the firing pin (could check protrusion from bolt face). Owned or hunted 760/7600s since I was a kid and never had a misfire. Have had misfires with light hammer springs in other guns and with excessive headspace.
thats a grice special circa 2003. i have one. nice guns and good shooter. i have its cousin whelen in wood and blue too from the same era. that one is real rare.
thats a grice special circa 2003. i have one. nice guns and good shooter. i have its cousin whelen in wood and blue too from the same era. that one is real rare.
Uh-oh……maybe I shouldn’t have had mine reamed out to .358 Winchester😬😄
thats a grice special circa 2003. i have one. nice guns and good shooter. i have its cousin whelen in wood and blue too from the same era. that one is real rare.
I think it was around 2007-08 that a local shop had one of those and a NIB 257 Roberts. He was asking $600 for the pair and had them for a while. They sat for a long time but when I finally decided to pull the trigger, they were sold.
On another note, I picked up a case of the newer run 180gr round nose corelokts for my -06 last week. This was the first 6 shots. 2 touching, pulled the 3rd high. 4th made the clover leaf. Then I adjusted the 2-7 a little and 5,6 are at 3 o'clock in the bull. I think they should do in that gun.
I saw that very ammo for sale today at Bob's army navy store in Clearfield Pa. $33 a box
On another note, I picked up a case of the newer run 180gr round nose corelokts for my -06 last week. This was the first 6 shots. 2 touching, pulled the 3rd high. 4th made the clover leaf. Then I adjusted the 2-7 a little and 5,6 are at 3 o'clock in the bull. I think they should do in that gun.
I saw that very ammo for sale today at Bob's army navy store in Clearfield Pa. $33 a box
I’ve been on the lookout for some with no luck. Any old stock I have seen on GB has gone for $60+ a box.
On another note, I picked up a case of the newer run 180gr round nose corelokts for my -06 last week. This was the first 6 shots. 2 touching, pulled the 3rd high. 4th made the clover leaf. Then I adjusted the 2-7 a little and 5,6 are at 3 o'clock in the bull. I think they should do in that gun.
I looked at this pic before I saw your post. I thought "oh schit" for a second. Thought I sold you a magic wand.
On another note, I picked up a case of the newer run 180gr round nose corelokts for my -06 last week. This was the first 6 shots. 2 touching, pulled the 3rd high. 4th made the clover leaf. Then I adjusted the 2-7 a little and 5,6 are at 3 o'clock in the bull. I think they should do in that gun.
I looked at this pic before I saw your post. I thought "oh schit" for a second. Thought I sold you a magic wand.
I haven't had a chance to shoot that one yet. I'm waiting to load some less expensive hand loads to get it on paper rather than burn up $50/box factory. I'll send you a make ya cry photo when I get her dialed in.
Any of you guys use 150gr RN in your loads? I have a pretty good amount of 150gr RN Hornady's and thought they'd be good in my '06 760.
Nope, bout have the 165gr Speers shot up, going to load that old box of 200gr woodleighs over a max charge of H-4831, re-zero and wait to bash a big pig or buck deer this season ; ]
I really like the 760's. I could really dig one in either .300 Savage or one rebored to 9.3 x 62.
Those two rounds are mighty different power levels from each other. I think you'll get a rifle in each!!!!! The 9.3 x 62 is more powerful than a .35 Whelen !
wink_man--fellow Campfire members, it is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that wink_man (Gary) passed away this afternoon from a short but devestating illness. I know he will be greatly missed, especially on this forum.
My connection with Gary was was short and amazing. As a fellow New Jersey resident, I sold Gary a like new Remington 760 pump in 35 Remington. Gary lived down the Jersey shore and traveled up to my house to purchase the rifle in person. We talked for hours about hunting in New Jersey and I found out that Gary deer hunted in the next county over from me in New York. We were hoping to meet up there sometime. He was a new found friend.
My father recently passed and was a hunting fool, I'm sure he has a place on a ridge in the Catskills for Gary all picked out.
I don't have any other info on Gary's obituary or contact info. If you want to reach out to Gary's wife Linda or his son, Magnum Bob will be posting info on Gary in the Campfire section.
"wink_man--fellow Campfire members, it is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that wink_man (Gary) passed away this afternoon from a short but devestating illness. I know he will be greatly missed, especially on this forum."
Those old Remington 14's were a trim little pump gun. My uncle had a .30 Remington and another buddy has a .32 Remington. I thought that I wanted a .35 Remington brush gun and found a Remington 141 .35, but something changed from when they made the 14 and morphed it into the 141. That rifle was overbuilt and a real chunk of steel to carry around in the woods. That long barrel didn't fit with my brush gun philosophy either, so I was kind of sorry that I bought it.
In the mid-1930s Remington "upgraded" their existing successful rifles, like the 8, 12, 14, and 24, to make them more attractive to potential buyers. They added a "1" to the model designation number to differentiate them.
Giving the 14 a lionger barrel and physically larger wood turned it into the 141. I have owned a few 14s and 141s and agree that the 141s are a little longer and a little heavier than the 14s, but the 141 stock fits me better and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to trim that 24" barrel back to just forward of the magazine tube and reinstall the front sight. John Wooters had a 141 reconfigured in that way. Interesting that Winchester made fewer lever action rifles and more carbines, while Remington went the opposite way with the 14 to 141 configuration chamge. It seems to me that a 141 carbine in 30/32/35 REM would have been more attractive to woods hunters, but Remington has had more than a few marketing/design failures during the past 100 years.
Just bought my first 7600 with a 22" barrel, had it cut down to 18.5", added a peep sight with a fiber optic front, I will be testing it out in the Northeast this fall - should be fun!
I had a 141 .35 Remington that I had the barrel cut back to 18 1/2”, front sight reinstalled, and drilled and tapped for scope mounts. With a Leupold 1.5-5 mounted, this was about the perfect big woods rifle. For some reason I can’t remember, I sold it here on the Campfire. That’s one I regret sending down the road.
I don't see well enough to chose irons, but the concept is appealing.
I thought the same thing, but I was pleasantly surprised after I put a Williams peep and a red fiber optic front bead on. That front bead is fuzzy, but I can consistently ring a 12 inch gong with my 760 carbine and this combo at 100 yds. That's minute of deer in my book. You should at least give it a try.
I "fixed" my 141 .35 Remington just like Miguel did with a fiber optic front sight and Williams peep. I'd been reading every Benoit tracking book I could lay my hands on since the '70's and figured that 141 would be perfect. After getting a lot of deer for other people still on their stands up ahead, I realized that I was just too clumsy to track down anything and get anything more than exercise. I couldn't beat them, so I joined them on a stand with a scope sighted one and done bolt action. A man has to know his limitations.
Anyone else fool with there pump gun getting it ready for deer. I checked out my 1977 model 760 and it's ready to go. Have about 40 150 Nosler ballistic tips loaded kinda mild. Running a 1.5-5 leupy on it sitting low.
I did, last week i shot a bunch of revolvers, threw them on the back picnic table, swabbed everything with Hoppes to let soak and grabbed my 1955 760 '06, filled a mag plus one in pipe with 165 hot cors, shot about a 1.75" five shot group at 100 centered around 2.5-3 inches high LOL, GTG, never chronoed the load, just book max load imr-4831, it'll be plenty fast enough for 250 yard white tail deer hunting.
I did, last week i shot a bunch of revolvers, threw them on the back picnic table, swabbed everything with Hoppes to let soak and grabbed my 1955 760 '06, filled a mag plus one in pipe with 165 hot cors, shot about a 1.75" five shot group at 100 centered around 2.5-3 inches high LOL, GTG, never chronoed the load, just book max load imr-4831, it'll be plenty fast enough for 250 yard white tail deer hunting.
Gunner your're good to go! Those 165 Hot Cores think they are Nosler Partitions and act like it, too!
I did, last week i shot a bunch of revolvers, threw them on the back picnic table, swabbed everything with Hoppes to let soak and grabbed my 1955 760 '06, filled a mag plus one in pipe with 165 hot cors, shot about a 1.75" five shot group at 100 centered around 2.5-3 inches high LOL, GTG, never chronoed the load, just book max load imr-4831, it'll be plenty fast enough for 250 yard white tail deer hunting.
Gunner your're good to go! Those 165 Hot Cores think they are Nosler Partitions and act like it, too!
Good to know WN, Thank you Sir, the old man i bought that rifle from over 30 years ago gave me those bullets to go with it, he also gave me a can of IMR-4831, it reads $6.35 per pound, he also gave me a 100 Rem 9-1/2 mag primers, they have a cardboard sleeve slip cover, the primers are stacked in a little wooden crate, it would be more than cool to bust a big buck with the rifle and components from so long ago, rifle still wears the same 2-7 Redfield in weavers it came to me with.
I did, last week i shot a bunch of revolvers, threw them on the back picnic table, swabbed everything with Hoppes to let soak and grabbed my 1955 760 '06, filled a mag plus one in pipe with 165 hot cors, shot about a 1.75" five shot group at 100 centered around 2.5-3 inches high LOL, GTG, never chronoed the load, just book max load imr-4831, it'll be plenty fast enough for 250 yard white tail deer hunting.
Gunner your're good to go! Those 165 Hot Cores think they are Nosler Partitions and act like it, too!
Good to know WN, Thank you Sir, the old man i bought that rifle from over 30 years ago gave me those bullets to go with it, he also gave me a can of IMR-4831, it reads $6.35 per pound, he also gave me a 100 Rem 9-1/2 mag primers, they have a cardboard sleeve slip cover, the primers are stacked in a little wooden crate, it would be more than cool to bust a big buck with the rifle and components from so long ago, rifle still wears the same 2-7 Redfield in weavers it came to me with.
Gunner, I've got some of those old tin cans of 4831, and other IMR's, but mine are priced at 11.95, still delivers the 165's where I want them to go. Hope you bag a big old Okie buck with that set-up. Pictures please!
Good stuff WN, i'm going to take the old pumper out for some walks this season, here and over in Arkansas, i've still got Big S's cell, if i bust a big one i'll fire him off a pic to send to You ; ]
Going to be a great season, i can feel it in my bones.
not a critter in the world that can a punch from a 165gr and a 30-06.
Good to know T, Thanks, seems You, WN and the old Man i got the rifle from knew the score with 165's, as did Big Green, Weaver and Redfield, as low as that scope fits that rifle for the straight buttstock with maybe 5 pages of printing paper clearance on the front bell, your eye comes dead center scope glass when shouldering, it's a great setup.
165's prolly the way to fly but I been thinking I'd like to try some 180 gr rn in the 760 5 of diamonds I scored last winter...mb
Yep, i can see nothing wrong with that MB, and congrats on the new rifle, in fact, i have partial boxes of 150 npt's, 200gr Woodleigh, A-Frame and partitions, as well as some 220gr partitions set aside to burn in the old 760 Gamemaster, as i see it max book loads of IMR or H 4831's will be accurate, recoil from any bullet weight in an '06 is a non-issue, simply isnt enough to be uncomfortable, particularly in a hunting situation with heavier clothes on.
Funny you brought this back up today. I just accidentally bought a 141 on GB and was going through this thread looking for info. Too bad most of the pictures are gone.
Funny you brought this back up today. I just accidentally bought a 141 on GB and was going through this thread looking for info. Too bad most of the pictures are gone.
I got a brand new one in 1949, i was 14 years old at the time. It cost $104.95 at a store in Bristol Pa. We reloaded for it using 3031 powder with 200 gr bullets, and it shot pretty well. I later traded it for a 760 in 06, but that didnt shoot nearly as well as the 141. Paul Yeager gave me $60 on trade for the 760 which was used but in new condition. It hade a 2.5 Weaver scope on a Yeager detachable side mount, my first ever scope. Later traded the 760 for a lefty bolt Savage.
My 760 30-06 has been taking deer with 165gn reloads since I bought it new in the early '80s. The most recent 760 I bought doesn't seem to like the 165's but groups well with Remington 150gn factory ammo which has been pretty good at killing deer also.
I bought a 141 several years ago without realizing the stock had been cut down, I found a replacement at an old gunsmith shop for 40 or 50 bucks, when it arrived in the mail I found out it was a very nice vintage Bishop stock. I also found an original Marbles (Mi UP company) tang mounted peep sight. After mounting the sight using the factory D&T holes I found that it sits off to one side far enough that even drifting the front sight isn't enough to get it sighted in at 50 yds. One of these days I will get it back out and see if I can remedy that issue, just not sure how to go about it.
If anyone needs the cut down buttstock I think the LOP is maybe 13" ? with a recoil pad. It's in good condition otherwise.
I have zero doubt what rifle I am hunting with this year. Lost my Dad in June. His only rifle for years was an old style 760 '06. Currently wears a cheap Tasco 2-7. 165gr Sierra handloads. I'm going to shoot the first legal deer that walks by me, them it's getting a good wipe down and going in the back of the safe until my boys are old enough to use it. Have about 2 dozen other 760's that Dad acquired in the last 10 years.
I loaded up some 180 grain hornady round noses. The powder was 43 grains of 4895.I wanted to see if they shot as well as the 180 grain sierras. They did! This 7600 is the most accurate hunting rifle I own. Ragged hole groups consistently
I loaded some .358 Whelen for a guy to shoot out of his 7600 this fall. I did sight it in and it does shoot well at least at 50 yards. He is a lefty and would not let me change the scope settings, afraid it wouldn't work for him so I did not take it to 100.
Nice old rifle SuperCub. One of the two best deer hunter I have ever known like that model and caliber rifle. He killed a buck every year for years with it. Then deer were far from common. Oddly, his other favorite was a 721 in .300 H & H. A very effective combo.
I saw half a dozen of these pumps in Mich. one summer at Williams gunsight company. I was going to buy one but they said I had to have it shipped to Wyoming. That made it too expensive. So I passed. Enjoy.
Supercub we have similar taste it seems. Mine is fairly new to me as well. I can't use buckhorns though and I didn't want to drill it for a lyman or Redfield so I'm playing with this Skinner barrel mounted peep and a Williams fire sight front. This is the first gun I've had to get a LOWER front sight when changing over to a peep. The carbine on top I got from a member here and it's going bear hunting with me this weekend. She's ugly but deadly. Hopefully I'll get a chance to let her eat but even if I don't it will be nice to be out.
Nice old rifle SuperCub. One of the two best deer hunter I have ever known like that model and caliber rifle. He killed a buck every year for years with it. Then deer were far from common. Oddly, his other favorite was a 721 in .300 H & H. A very effective combo.
LOL ...... I have a 721 in 300H&H as well but I'm no serious deer hunter.
Supercub we have similar taste it seems. Mine is fairly new to me as well. I can't use buckhorns though and I didn't want to drill it for a lyman or Redfield so I'm playing with this Skinner barrel mounted peep and a Williams fire sight front. This is the first gun I've had to get a LOWER front sight when changing over to a peep.
I don't think those buckhorn sights are original to the 141. Mine is a flat top sight with step adjustment.
Also there should be two drilled holes at the rear of the receiver on the top on the "tang" location. These are for a Lyman R-14 tang/receiver sight. Might want to check that out as well.
Yeah I looked at those R-14 rears. They were a little rich for my blood right now. And I misspoke about them being buckhorns. I guess they were just a standard rear flat blade. Either way my eyes can't use them and I don't want to drill and tap this one.
Never met in person Wink_man but we had some really good phone conversations. He was a big fan of the 760 and very knowledgeable about them. He held his wife in the highest esteem, she is a nice gal. I'll probably use my 5 of diamonds 760 30-06 atleast a couple of days this deer season in remberance of him, what a guy...mb
My first deer season I used my uncles 141 .30 Rem equipped with a "climbing Lyman" 21 peep sight. Good thing I didn't see any deer to shoot at the first day, the chamber was empty because I didn't work the action "like a man"! I have a 141 now in .35 that was d&t for a Williams peep. I'm going to replace the Williams with a correct vintage Lyman one of these days
My first deer season I used my uncles 141 .30 Rem equipped with a "climbing Lyman" 21 peep sight. Good thing I didn't see any deer to shoot at the first day, the chamber was empty because I didn't work the action "like a man"! I have a 141 now in .35 that was d&t for a Williams peep. I'm going to replace the Williams with a correct vintage Lyman one of these days
Might as well just use the Williams if it's already been D&T on the side. I wouldn't have one drilled, but if it was already, I'd go that route.
The Lyman R-14s are expensive and a bit hard to find.
I would like a 35 Remington but I do have an eye on a used 7600 in 308. They want $550 for it. I’m thinking real hard about getting it. I will need to seal it into the house.
Sighted in my new to me 760 in 30-06 yesterday. Topped with a Leupold Freedom 3-9x40. Shot right at 1MOA with Winchester 150gr Power Points. Shot it at 50, 100, and 200. It'll do
I just finally opened the box I got from KTP. They had a bunch of new/old stock 35 Whelen carbines. Need to order a skinner for it and get it zeroed up for snowy times. Nice handling rifle.
Sighted in my new to me 760 in 30-06 yesterday. Topped with a Leupold Freedom 3-9x40. Shot right at 1MOA with Winchester 150gr Power Points. Shot it at 50, 100, and 200. It'll do
Sighted in my new to me 760 in 30-06 yesterday. Topped with a Leupold Freedom 3-9x40. Shot right at 1MOA with Winchester 150gr Power Points. Shot it at 50, 100, and 200. It'll do
How old a 760 did you find Zoner?..mb
Beretzs was it gold plated?
Nah, wasn't gold plated, but it also wasn't a beautiful sorta rifle either. Regular blueing and plastics stocks. Very functionable though and I kinda like the Whelen....
I would like a 35 Remington but I do have an eye on a used 7600 in 308. They want $550 for it. I’m thinking real hard about getting it. I will need to seal it into the house.
That's a good price these days if it's in good condition.
Sighted in my new to me 760 in 30-06 yesterday. Topped with a Leupold Freedom 3-9x40. Shot right at 1MOA with Winchester 150gr Power Points. Shot it at 50, 100, and 200. It'll do
How old a 760 did you find Zoner?..mb
Berets was it gold plated?
I do t think kits too old. Late 70’s early 80’s probably. The glossy stock and white line spacer era.
Yes sir. It looks almost brand new. It has black synthetic and doesn’t appear to have been shot much if at all. I was surprised there was no hardware for a sling on it. That’s no big deal to add. I’m still debating whether or not to get it. I definitely don’t need it but hard to pass on a good deal.
Sighted in my new to me 760 in 30-06 yesterday. Topped with a Leupold Freedom 3-9x40. Shot right at 1MOA with Winchester 150gr Power Points. Shot it at 50, 100, and 200. It'll do
How old a 760 did you find Zoner?..mb
Berets was it gold plated?
I do t think kits too old. Late 70’s early 80’s probably. The glossy stock and white line spacer era.
Cool, it will a good deer killer for sure. The 06 I found this spring is one of the old ones with the 5 of diamonds checkering pattern...mb
Yes sir. It looks almost brand new. It has black synthetic and doesn’t appear to have been shot much if at all. I was surprised there was no hardware for a sling on it. That’s no big deal to add. I’m still debating whether or not to get it. I definitely don’t need it but hard to pass on a good deal.
Sounds like a decent one. Definitely a cool donor for a 338 Federal or 358 Win if someone were wanting a quick one.
Yes sir. It looks almost brand new. It has black synthetic and doesn’t appear to have been shot much if at all. I was surprised there was no hardware for a sling on it. That’s no big deal to add. I’m still debating whether or not to get it. I definitely don’t need it but hard to pass on a good deal.
Sounds like a decent one. Definitely a cool donor for a 338 Federal or 358 Win if someone were wanting a quick one.
Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Seabreeze1970
Yes sir. It looks almost brand new. It has black synthetic and doesn’t appear to have been shot much if at all. I was surprised there was no hardware for a sling on it. That’s no big deal to add. I’m still debating whether or not to get it. I definitely don’t need it but hard to pass on a good deal.
Sounds like a decent one. Definitely a cool donor for a 338 Federal or 358 Win if someone were wanting a quick one.
Exactly what I was thinking. I have a 358 already and really like it and could easily use another.
The little 338 Federal in a 760/7600 would be pretty sweet. Plus, JES makes it so easy to do it.
A little tough to do with a .35 Rem though.
For sure. I’d like one of them as they came.
Me too. I had one long ago. It was the 7600 with the synthetic stock. It's the only Rem pump I've ever had that wouldn't shoot.
I wouldn't feel as bad as making one like that into a 358 I guess
That would be pretty sweet actually.
I am a Model 70 guy or similar through and through, but the 760/7600's I have had and shot to this point have been awesome shooters and nothing much has been handier for deer hunting. Hell, if I was a brave enough soul I'd take one to Wyoming and church up the mountains with a little class with the 7600 280..
I would like a 35 Remington but I do have an eye on a used 7600 in 308. They want $550 for it. I’m thinking real hard about getting it. I will need to seal it into the house.
Buy buy buy! That was a good price even a couple of years ago.
I am a Model 70 guy or similar through and through, but the 760/7600's I have had and shot to this point have been awesome shooters and nothing much has been handier for deer hunting. Hell, if I was a brave enough soul I'd take one to Wyoming and church up the mountains with a little class with the 7600 280..
I haven’t been back to the gun shop to check on it. Just too busy at work. I might get back over there next week. It is a good deal but I hope someone else makes my decision for me.
Those 141’s are great rifles. I had a .35 I turned into a carbine and drilled and tapped for a scope mount. With a 1.5-5 Leupold I had about the best woods gun going. Stupidly I sold it here on the free classified’s. If who ever bought it reads this, I would formally like to ask for the chance to buy it back.
Miguel I thought about chopping this one but it carries so well full length I just can't. Hell I went with the Skinner barrel peep because I didn't want to drill and tap it. It's not perfect and has some warts but I will too at 76 I imagine.
Does anyone know a gunsmith that rebarrels and converts 7600s? I am aware of Nate Chesney, was wondering if there was anyone else. I have a 7600 I'd like to turn into a 9.3x62.
Does anyone know a gunsmith that rebarrels and converts 7600s? I am aware of Nate Chesney, was wondering if there was anyone else. I have a 7600 I'd like to turn into a 9.3x62.
Does anyone know a gunsmith that rebarrels and converts 7600s? I am aware of Nate Chesney, was wondering if there was anyone else. I have a 7600 I'd like to turn into a 9.3x62.
I had some pump activity this past weekend when I sighted in 760 and 7600 30-06's. I should say, checked zero. They don't change much over the years. Dead on at 50 yds, 1.5" high at 100 with Hornady American Whitetail 150gr Interlocks.
Beretzs, from what I understand of 760's the butt will interchange with 20 ga m870 wood. Might be something to check out. I've allways thought that generation of 760 BDL's with the monte carlo and the basket weave checkering were gaudy but some what unique...mb
Those 141’s are great rifles. I had a .35 I turned into a carbine and drilled and tapped for a scope mount. With a 1.5-5 Leupold I had about the best woods gun going.
While I would not D&T a nice survivor 141, I would have no troubles scoping one that was drilled already. That sounds like a great little rifle set up you did.
Beretzs, from what I understand of 760's the butt will interchange with 20 ga m870 wood. Might be something to check out. I've allways thought that generation of 760 BDL's with the monte carlo and the basket weave checkering were gaudy but some what unique...mb
You sent me scrambling real quick to Midwest Gun Works and Numrichs.. Out of stock in both of these places.
Ebay had a few sets.. Good darned idea MB. Thank you!
Agreed. Personally if it were mine I'd be looking for a nice satin wood set but it wouldn't be a deal breaker as is.
I would be too. But that rifle is cool as hell and will be cooler with the Skinner.
I’d like to find some walnut for it myself.
You fellas know of a good place to scrounge up a set?
Could try Ahlman's in Morristown, MN
I'll check them as well!
Just sent them an email. I ain't scared to use it with the plastic, but it would be nice with a satin finished set. Heck, I'd likely get two sets and replace the glossy ones on my 280 Rem. It's that anniversary model. Looks sharp, but it won't after a few miles in the brush I'd bet.
I’d like to swap out the Monte Carlo stock on my 7600 308 for a straight comb stock. Could an 870 stock be installed on a 7600? I run a peep sight on my 7600 and I think the Monte Carlo is better suited for a scope.
I’d like to swap out the Monte Carlo stock on my 7600 308 for a straight comb stock. Could an 870 stock be installed on a 7600? I run a peep sight on my 7600 and I think the Monte Carlo is better suited for a scope.
I'm not sure on the 7600. I think it works on the 760. I might have them flipped...which is why you shouldn't listen to me.
Saw a YY 760 in 35 rem today. I was still untapped. I probably would have bought it if it was tapped. That I’d the reason I sold my last one. My eyes suck
I just checked the zero on my 7600 carbine in 308. I will be using 180 grain sierra's in it. That little rifle just flat amazes me. It is Uber accurate
I just checked the zero on my 7600 carbine in 308. I will be using 180 grain sierra's in it. That little rifle just flat amazes me. It is Uber accurate
We have 1 7600 and one Rem 760 ready to head to WI in a few days. I'm pretty fired up. Fresh snow falling for the next 3 days should tell us where they're moving. Hopefully near our stands. But if not I have a few ideas for sneakin and peekin. This weather is perfect though. 25* f, 3-4" of snow, can't get betting IMO.
We have 1 7600 and one Rem 760 ready to head to WI in a few days. I'm pretty fired up. Fresh snow falling for the next 3 days should tell us where they're moving. Hopefully near our stands. But if not I have a few ideas for sneakin and peekin. This weather is perfect though. 25* f, 3-4" of snow, can't get betting IMO.
Sounds like perfect tracking conditions. Follow one up with that 760 and shoot um in his bed like the Benoits!
Yep, I need a guy like tzone sneaking around on a track thinking that he will walk up on one. Then the deer is out of it's bed during daylight and heading for my stand. Bang, thanks. Lots of us think that we are great stand pickers, but in reality the deer that many of us shoot is because the guy two ridges over was late into his stand, or took off for lunch or read the Benoit book and has a 760 and thought that he could do that too in a crowded woods.
First three shots after mounting the Skinner. I bought a few boxes of the Winchester 200 grain stuff.
Nudged the sigh to the right a skosh and plopped the next three in the center. Good enough. Got snow coming tonight so I hope to get lucky and get on a buck tomorrow.
Yep, I need a guy like tzone sneaking around on a track thinking that he will walk up on one. Then the deer is out of it's bed during daylight and heading for my stand. Bang, thanks. Lots of us think that we are great stand pickers, but in reality the deer that many of us shoot is because the guy two ridges over was late into his stand, or took off for lunch or read the Benoit book and has a 760 and thought that he could do that too in a crowded woods.
I promise you...I won't be pushing you any deer. For starters, hunting in a crowded woods isn't my deal. For finishers, I don't walk up on them. I walk slow enough in the woods that they walk up on me.
First three shots after mounting the Skinner. I bought a few boxes of the Winchester 200 grain stuff.
Nudged the sigh to the right a skosh and plopped the next three in the center. Good enough. Got snow coming tonight so I hope to get lucky and get on a buck tomorrow.
Anybody else used the Winchester 200 PP ammo in the Whelen? Looks like a 200 grain Hornady to me. Not that it matters, it's only going after deer and I trust the Hornady or WW out of that shorty barrel. It does make a nice little fireball though!
Anybody else used the Winchester 200 PP ammo in the Whelen? Looks like a 200 grain Hornady to me. Not that it matters, it's only going after deer and I trust the Hornady or WW out of that shorty barrel. It does make a nice little fireball though!
I just wondering if there are any 200 grainers that wouldn't work. A friend of mine uses the old 200 grain Silvertip in his. Kills deer dead.
Anybody else used the Winchester 200 PP ammo in the Whelen? Looks like a 200 grain Hornady to me. Not that it matters, it's only going after deer and I trust the Hornady or WW out of that shorty barrel. It does make a nice little fireball though!
I just wondering if there are any 200 grainers that wouldn't work. A friend of mine uses the old 200 grain Silvertip in his. Kills deer dead.
Agreed, wool coats are quiet, but in parts of the country I hunt Whitetails, they attract burdocks, sticktights and other brush trash. Good to see you built an Indian fire, rather than a white man fire. Dances with wolves, 1990. "Only a white man would make a fire for everyone to see. Maybe there's more than one."
Agreed, wool coats are quiet, but in parts of the country I hunt Whitetails, they attract burdocks, sticktights and other brush trash. Good to see you built an Indian fire, rather than a white man fire. Dances with wolves, 1990. "Only a white man would make a fire for everyone to see. Maybe there's more than one."
I don't remember that line, but that made me laugh a little!
Agreed, I have some of my old Cabelas Whitetail series my Dad got me when I was 16. I am 44 now, and that stuff is just as warm now as ever, but darned if it won't pick up every piece of burdock or burdocks in the woods if I walk too close!
The colt Lightning Large frame could be the apex of a pump rifle and hunting big game. Here is a deer shot with the 50 express and an antelope shot with the 40-65...
8pt, 17" inside spread. Busted brow tine and G3, had 3 scars on his back and one on his chest from a beating he took. Yesterday afternoon he weighed 199.8 pounds. Shot with Remington 760, 30-06, 150gr Hornady Interlock. He dropped at the shot. Fell backwards and rolled over...done. He was hard quartering to me. Entrance in front of onside shoulder and exit behind other shoulder, lung soup inside.
Yeah good buck, congrats sounds like the Minnesota deer herd is a hurting unit. Wolves or just piss poor game management by the game and fish cops?.. mb
Yeah good buck, congrats sounds like the Minnesota deer herd is a hurting unit. Wolves or just piss poor game management by the game and fish cops?.. mb
A little of everything. Wolves have always been around. I probably put less blame on them than most but they are a factor.
Winter kill is too. Winter came early and left late last year in the north country.
thumbcocker, let us hear about your bear hunt when you get back. Have you found the 180gr RN to be the most effective round for harvesting black bear?
I had a 7600 in 308 come back to me by way of a friend a few years ago who “rented” it for about 15 years and I was glad to have it back. The reason I had that rifle in the 1st place was that Remington loaded their 180gr SPCL, a RN corelokt bullet in 308Win - one of the best woods cartridges ever made. It is their “R308W2” Ammo model number (the W1 being the PSPCL). They still sell it (loaded) but you can’t get the component bullets anymore. In 30-06 they still offer their 220gr. RN I believe.
thumbcocker, let us hear about your bear hunt when you get back. Have you found the 180gr RN to be the most effective round for harvesting black bear?
I had a 7600 in 308 come back to me by way of a friend a few years ago who “rented” it for about 15 years and I was glad to have it back. The reason I had that rifle in the 1st place was that Remington loaded their 180gr SPCL, a RN corelokt bullet in 308Win - one of the best woods cartridges ever made. It is their “R308W2” Ammo model number (the W1 being the PSPCL). They still sell it (loaded) but you can’t get the component bullets anymore. In 30-06 they still offer their 220gr. RN I believe.
Didn't get a bear. Too much corn standing yet. The deer I've shot with them worked really well. Not much if any bloodshot meat
8pt, 17" inside spread. Busted brow tine and G3, had 3 scars on his back and one on his chest from a beating he took. Yesterday afternoon he weighed 199.8 pounds. Shot with Remington 760, 30-06, 150gr Hornady Interlock. He dropped at the shot. Fell backwards and rolled over...done. He was hard quartering to me. Entrance in front of onside shoulder and exit behind other shoulder, lung soup inside.
As he lay
Time to get dirty
Ready for the sled
Great job Zone. I guess you didn't push that one to someone else...
I’m a slacker this year on pumps. I lost my dad back in the summer and used his Marlin 35 week one. I pulled my BLR 358 out of the safe for week two. I got a buck with each. Keep the pump stories and pics coming.
I stumbled upon this thread a few years ago and it caused a bit of an undoing for me. The pictures and stories fueled a lust, but my paycheck and growing family kept a bolt action in my hands hunting the “big woods”. The cheapest rifle is the one you already have kind of deal. I mentioned my interest in a Remington 760 to my Dad in passing, he kept that in the back of his mind. A week or so after our conversation he stopped at a garage sale, the guy had a few orange vests and half a box of ammo sitting on a table and that peaked my father’s interest “have any rifles for sale?” The guy running the sale paused before saying “hold on a minute”. He brought back a 1976 760 in 30-06 wearing a Redfield wide view 2x7 for the steep price of a hundred bucks.
I swear I started seeing more deer I started hunting this rifle.
I appreciate this thread for the inspiration that has lead to some priceless memories for me.
I stumbled upon this thread a few years ago and it caused a bit of an undoing for me. The pictures and stories fueled a lust, but my paycheck and growing family kept a bolt action in my hands hunting the “big woods”. The cheapest rifle is the one you already have kind of deal. I mentioned my interest in a Remington 760 to my Dad in passing, he kept that in the back of his mind. A week or so after our conversation he stopped at a garage sale, the guy had a few orange vests and half a box of ammo sitting on a table and that peaked my father’s interest “have any rifles for sale?” The guy running the sale paused before saying “hold on a minute”. He brought back a 1976 760 in 30-06 wearing a Redfield wide view 2x7 for the steep price of a hundred bucks.
I swear I started seeing more deer I started hunting this rifle.
I appreciate this thread for the inspiration that has lead to some priceless memories for me.
That’s cool. I love the old Redfields. Some rifles have mojo, looks like your dad found you one.
This year’s buck was my best yet, it was also one of the best opening days that I’ve had. I had located a spot I wanted to deer hunt in the Allegheny National Forest after I spent some time hunting/scouting during the Pennsylvania bear season.
Right before noon on opening day I missed a very nice buck at point blank range. I center punched a big tree that magically disappeared during my adrenaline dump. It was nice to know my heart still worked though.
In the last hour of daylight I caught this one feeding out from a laurel thicket. He didn’t materialize until he was at 60 yards, I tucked a 150 grain corelokt behind his right shoulder and watched as he did the death run directly towards me. At 30 yards he cut left running broadside and by that time I had a fresh round in the tube. I let him come into the scope and dropped him with a shoulder shot.
I turned some of my tax return into a 7600 in 243 to hunt the farm.
I got this one in early in the year have been very happy with its cloverleaf patters at 100 yards. I passed on a big doe at last light yesterday, I’ll probably kick myself for that.
The last day of the Pennsylvania rifle season ended with a bang, I guess started with it would be more accurate. A little before 8:30 AM I had a decent doe and a couple of button bucks slip out of the brush and across the back of the corn field. The doe stopped at about 80 yards when the lead button busted my wife and I in the stand. It was too little too late.
Got a really nice blood trail, but I watched her fall from the stand after a little 40 yard scamper so tracking wasn’t needed. I was shooting 95 grain tipped corelokt out of my 7600 in 243 Win.
The last day of the Pennsylvania rifle season ended with a bang, I guess started with it would be more accurate. A little before 8:30 AM I had a decent doe and a couple of button bucks slip out of the brush and across the back of the corn field. The doe stopped at about 80 yards when the lead button busted my wife and I in the stand. It was too little too late.
Got a really nice blood trail, but I watched her fall from the stand after a little 40 yard scamper so tracking wasn’t needed. I was shooting 95 grain tipped corelokt out of my 7600 in 243 Win.
The shot was through one shoulder with the exit just behind the other. The damage into the ribs after entering and exiting the first shoulder was rather impressive I though, although I didn’t document it like I should have.
Entrance.
Exit.
The size of the exit was probably a half dollar sized hole and as I mentioned before it was a phenomenal blood trail.
i have two, both are in 30 Remington and shoot great. one a carbine rem. model 14, made in 1912, the other a 141 pre model made in 1935 both were pawn shop rescues
i have two, both are in 30 Remington and shoot great. one a carbine rem. model 14, made in 1912, the other a 141 pre model made in 1935 both were pawn shop rescues
i have two, both are in 30 Remington and shoot great. one a carbine rem. model 14, made in 1912, the other a 141 pre model made in 1935 both were pawn shop rescues
thanks! yep i found the carbine in a pawn shop. it had no bluing and the under the crud on the stock you could just see the grain, but i knew it was good. i tore it apart and had it reblued and i redone the wood, it is original wood,,,,,,,,,,,
i have two, both are in 30 Remington and shoot great. one a carbine rem. model 14, made in 1912, the other a 141 pre model made in 1935 both were pawn shop rescues
Three thumbs up!
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by thumbcocker
Just curious, who got a deer with their pump?
Me
Me too! 7600 in 6.5 Creedmoore. Work done by Nathan Chesney at Hillbilly Rifles. 140 Nosler AB.
Boys: No pic because my head is hanging low (besides I don't know how to post the pics), but I had two shots at bucks this year with a pump and missed them both. This was incredibe, even though the shots were both long and downhill. Never missed with a bolt....I think (or if I did, I don't remember). This in the Vermont Northeast Kingdom. Sheesh. Next year I'll do better. Hopefully a pic even.
Picked up a nice m141 in 35 rem today. 85 to 90 % condition bright clean bore. Can't hardly wait to stack it up against the early 760 in 35 for accuracy.
Picked up a nice m141 in 35 rem today. 85 to 90 % condition bright clean bore. Can't hardly wait to stack it up against the early 760 in 35 for accuracy.
Mb
Pic or it didn't happen. BTW - you'll like that 24" barrel.
Picked up a nice m141 in 35 rem today. 85 to 90 % condition bright clean bore. Can't hardly wait to stack it up against the early 760 in 35 for accuracy.
Mb
Pic or it didn't happen. BTW - you'll like that 24" barrel.
1920's Remington m14 in .35 Remington shooting 200gr Core Lokt's . Sight is a rare Redfield 102 made to utilize the two pre drilled holes where you might normally see a tang type sight mounted. Took this deer on the 26th of December 2022.
1920's Remington m14 in .35 Remington shooting 200gr Core Lokt's . Sight is a rare Redfield 102 made to utilize the two pre drilled holes where you might normally see a tang type sight mounted. Took this deer on the 26th of December 2022.
This Remington 14 1/2 in 44/40 is in the lineup for this coming deer season. I didn't get a chance to carry it this past year, but I have found a spot that is perfect for the 44/40. I have no doubt that the old pump is up to the challenge.
My son bought me this Grice special run 7600 7mm-08 several years ago. I've had a feed problem on and off with it. It's a problem with the magazine seating depth. I tried adjusting the feed lips on both of my magazines. This evening I tried switching the trigger group with my 760 and it didn't work. The magazine catches are different. I compared the older 760 magazines and saw the notch for the magazine catch to hold the mags in place was deeper with the older mags. I used my Dremel to deepen the notch and the mags seem to seat better. My next range trip will tell me if it's fixed.
My son bought me this Grice special run 7600 7mm-08 several years ago. I've had a feed problem on and off with it. It's a problem with the magazine seating depth. I tried adjusting the feed lips on both of my magazines. This evening I tried switching the trigger group with my 760 and it didn't work. The magazine catches are different. I compared the older 760 magazines and saw the notch for the magazine catch to hold the mags in place was deeper with the older mags. I used my Dremel to deepen the notch and the mags seem to seat better. My next range trip will tell me if it's fixed.
Very nice rifles.
I bought one in about 2003 or 2004.
30-06, 2nd shot the extractor pulled out. Took it to an authorized gunsmith and he put a new extractor in. On about the 2nd or 3rd shot with replacement extractor it pulled out so back we went to the gunsmith. He checked it out and said the chamber was rough so he sent it back to Remington for a new barrel.
Got it back and sent it down the road. At times I wish I still had it but I had a very sour taste in my mouth from the incident.
thumbcocker, I called Remington last summer and was told they would be available before the end of 22. I called again in January of this year and was told they MIGHT be available this fall. Which probably really means next year.
thumbcocker, I called Remington last summer and was told they would be available before the end of 22. I called again in January of this year and was told they MIGHT be available this fall. Which probably really means next year.
Was at a gunshow last Saturday in pa and they had a bunch of remington 760s the cheapest was around $850. Most were right around $1200. Have two 760 but I dont think their worth that much. Is this the going rate on them. Got my 760 30/06 about 5 years ago for $250.
The vanilla 30-06 is coming down, but any other caliber or especially if it's a carbine are still stupid, but the new Remington isn't in any hurry to make the new ones I guess so the trend continues. I almost had a weak moment on a GB 760 in 35 the other day that had a really nice piece of wood on it. It had a BIN of $950 and I was tempted, but decided to pass at that price. It was gone a couple hours later when I looked.
For anyone wondering where the pumpgun market is going, there was a live auction yesterday in central PA that had a bunch. I wasn't there but this was posted on another site by someone who was. Insane IMO, but auctions tend to do that to people. I'm also told it was heavily Amish/Mennonite so that may have something to do with it.
Anybody want t9 buy an excellent 760 ADL in 257 made in 06/54 for $1,500?
You might be able to flip it and make some pocket money if those prices represent the current market value.
I waited over 2 months for a response to our PM Jeff. Thanks for the non replies! GLWYS bud.
No disrespect intended, sometimes I lose track of my PMs. Now that you've reminded me I'll go back and look for our PMs. The list was emailed to you today.
I’ve got a 7600 carbine 30-06 with a Leupold 1.5-5, that has become my favorite deer rifle for hunting in the Adirondacks. I had owned 7600’s and 760’s in the past and even though I really wanted to like them, I never really warmed up to them. Back in 2019 I saw this one in a LGS and thought I would give it another try. I had read that Hal Blood had worked with Remington to make some improvements to the 7600 design. I guess they changed something because this rifle points like my index finger! My only complaint is that even after 4 years and 100’s of rounds through it, plus thousands of dry fires, the action is still quite stiff. Any tips on making the action smoother?
I’ve got a 7600 carbine 30-06 with a Leupold 1.5-5, that has become my favorite deer rifle for hunting in the Adirondacks. I had owned 7600’s and 760’s in the past and even though I really wanted to like them, I never really warmed up to them. Back in 2019 I saw this one in a LGS and thought I would give it another try. I had read that Hal Blood had worked with Remington to make some improvements to the 7600 design. I guess they changed something because this rifle points like my index finger! My only complaint is that even after 4 years and 100’s of rounds through it, plus thousands of dry fires, the action is still quite stiff. Any tips on making the action smoother?
Put a few handfuls of dirt in it and work the action for 15 minutes.
I’ve tried cleaning and lubing all moving parts without much success. Racking the action back is stiff, and when it’s all the way back, it sticks slightly. It is something I thought would work itself out with use, and it may, but not yet.
bet you it's the O-ring. Pop the forearm off and put it back together without the ring. See if it gets better or worse. I've replaced a couple of worn out, gummed up O-rings and in both cases it smoothed the action considerably. The other thing is some Flitz on the action rails and work the action like a blue balled teenager for a while.
When I disassembled everything last winter, the o-ring looked good, and I cleaned the action tube up spotless and lubed it with RemOil. No real improvement. I think I’ll try the Flitz on the action rails. There were a couple of burrs on the rails I smoothed out with 400 grit sand paper, but I’m thinking the polishing compound may do the trick. I’ll report back,
Maybe the problem isn't with the action rails or action tube? Could the scope base screws be interfering? I would pull the trigger group and slowly work the action looking for any possible culprits. Could be o-ring be over size?
My 101 o/u preferred clays shotgun was fairly stiff to open. I’d always lubed it with Tri-Flow which I still think is pretty good lubricant. Then at a gun show a couple months back I saw a table selling Ballistol and I bought a bottle. It made lots of difference how that shotgun opens and closes now. I sold off my 141 .35 Remington and my 760 .257 Roberts (regret that one) because they both rattled and it was one more thing that I could correct for with a bolt action.
Worked on it today. No luck. New o ring, although the old one looked fine. No interference from scope base screws. I did polish the action bars with 600 grit wet paper, no rough spots at all now. Still doing the same thing. Slide pulled all the way back, action open, you can hold the rifle by the foreend and it won’t close. A couple jolts and it will close. Any 7600 I ever had closed way easier than that. Maybe I’ll try Ballistol.
The ballistol didn’t make much difference either. When I had it all apart yesterday, I should have tried cycling it without the o ring in place. Next time I do a thorough cleaning I’ll try it. It’s really no big deal, and in a hunting situation not even notable, but it does bug me.
Did you try pulling the trigger group out so that you can see what's happening as you cycle the action? Have you taken it all apart? Have found a few pine needles that worked their way into the action. This would bug me to, have two 760's and if anything they are quite loose. Of course, the newest one is 40 something years old.
Several years ago I bought one of Grices' special run of 18.5 inch barreled 35 Rem 7600s when I really couldn't afford it. I was scared to hunt with it and scuff it up and so it became the first, and only, firearm I ever bought and never shot before selling for what I paid for it...$540. I wish I would have kept it now but it's just water under the bridge. I did find a 7600 in 35Whelen about five years ago but have only taken one buck with it. I may someday get a 243 or 308 and have it re-bored to .358 Win. What I'll do with a 358 I can't do with the Whelen I don't know except I would have the barrel cut back to 18.5" to give me a carbine. Or I wouldn't mind having an original 760 in a 35Remington carbine either. Oh how I ramble...
Several years ago I bought one of Grices' special run of 18.5 inch barreled 35 Rem 7600s when I really couldn't afford it. I was scared to hunt with it and scuff it up and so it became the first, and only, firearm I ever bought and never shot before selling for what I paid for it...$540. I wish I would have kept it now but it's just water under the bridge. I did find a 7600 in 35Whelen about five years ago but have only taken one buck with it. I may someday get a 243 or 308 and have it re-bored to .358 Win. What I'll do with a 358 I can't do with the Whelen I don't know except I would have the barrel cut back to 18.5" to give me a carbine. Or I wouldn't mind having an original 760 in a 35Remington carbine either. Oh how I ramble...
Goat, your most economical route to a 358Win would be simply to rechamber a 35Rem to 358Win. I had a surplus of 760, 35Rems about 20 years ago and went that route. That move rendered my Whelens to "safe queen" status except for a moose hunt in Alberta.
Of course, the most economical way to a 358 would be to simply load your Whelen down to 358 level. But what fun would that be, right? *L*
Had to take the Mrs to her monthly Dr appointment in the city today and we decided to browse a couple gun shops for fun since there aren’t any bargains anymore.
Well lo and behold but what do I find, and for pretty dang cheap too. In fact so reasonably priced that I bought it even though I have no use for it at all. I admit it is pretty darn cool though. I even shot a gyp rock with it when I went out to dump a bucket of walleye heads a few minutes ago. 165 Sierra over some 4895 and the old factory irons are right on at around 75 yards.
It decodes to July 1960, first year for the carbine I believe. And I’d bet money the plug screws have never been out of the receiver. No sling stud install took place. And the butt still wears the factory checkered aluminum buttplate.
It’s filthy and I’m headed to the shop to clean it up and check it over. If any of you Midwest or PA guys are needing one, I could probably be traded out of it even though it’s pretty neat and I can feel it growing on me.
It’s an 06. It actually cleaned up really nicely. I think it had been in a smoker’s house for a long time and was kinda sticky with the yellow tar. It does have a small amount of light freckling that didn’t quite completely go away but it’d be a nice user.
It’s an 06. It actually cleaned up really nicely. I think it had been in a smoker’s house for a long time and was kinda sticky with the yellow tar. It does have a small amount of light freckling that didn’t quite completely go away but it’d be a nice user.
You did well with that one. That's a dandy buck getter.
JD45, I sure wish that I'd had that same insight back when I disposed of a 141 .35 and a 760 Roberts. Too small a gun safe, too short a deer season and too many rifles.
Had to take the Mrs to her monthly Dr appointment in the city today and we decided to browse a couple gun shops for fun since there aren’t any bargains anymore.
Well lo and behold but what do I find, and for pretty dang cheap too. In fact so reasonably priced that I bought it even though I have no use for it at all. I admit it is pretty darn cool though. I even shot a gyp rock with it when I went out to dump a bucket of walleye heads a few minutes ago. 165 Sierra over some 4895 and the old factory irons are right on at around 75 yards.
It decodes to July 1960, first year for the carbine I believe. And I’d bet money the plug screws have never been out of the receiver. No sling stud install took place. And the butt still wears the factory checkered aluminum buttplate.
It’s filthy and I’m headed to the shop to clean it up and check it over. If any of you Midwest or PA guys are needing one, I could probably be traded out of it even though it’s pretty neat and I can feel it growing on me.
Is the barrel marked “carbine” on it? If so you did better than you might be thinking?!
Had to take the Mrs to her monthly Dr appointment in the city today and we decided to browse a couple gun shops for fun since there aren’t any bargains anymore.
Well lo and behold but what do I find, and for pretty dang cheap too. In fact so reasonably priced that I bought it even though I have no use for it at all. I admit it is pretty darn cool though. I even shot a gyp rock with it when I went out to dump a bucket of walleye heads a few minutes ago. 165 Sierra over some 4895 and the old factory irons are right on at around 75 yards.
It decodes to July 1960, first year for the carbine I believe. And I’d bet money the plug screws have never been out of the receiver. No sling stud install took place. And the butt still wears the factory checkered aluminum buttplate.
It’s filthy and I’m headed to the shop to clean it up and check it over. If any of you Midwest or PA guys are needing one, I could probably be traded out of it even though it’s pretty neat and I can feel it growing on me.
Is the barrel marked “carbine” on it? If so you did better than you might be thinking?!
PennDog
Oh yeah it’s the genuine article, “Carbine” rollmark ahead of the chamber and the funny shaped stamped steel forend cap.
Yeah I shot it after I got it cleaned up. Exactly what I expected out of a 30/06 carbine, kinda loud, kinda muzzle flashy, puts 180s right under the front bead.
I need to find someone who has an S&W 44 they don’t need and needs this Carbine I really don’t need. Then we can both be happy. 😁
i used 150gr Hornady RN and 170gr Hornady FP and they shot great (3/4 - 1 1/2" at 100 yards, 5 shots). the pump gun was a good deer rifle, 15 - 20 deer. it ran out luck when i killed my first black bear (396lbs). so i sold it.
I need to snap a pic next time we go out. Yesterday I put the shortened stock I bought off a Fire member on my son’s 1954 production 760 in 300Sav. I pulled the plug screws I’m pretty sure had never been out of the receiver and mounted an M8 4x Leupold in plain old Weaver rings.
We loaded up a few rounds with 130gr Speer FN 30/30 bullets over a reduced charge of IMR 4895. I didn’t have any H4895 but found an older article by John Barsness wherein he stated that he’d spoken with the folks at Hodgdon and there was no issue with using the same formula for reduced loads using IMR instead of H4895. So we used the 60 percent formula and should be getting pretty much 30/30 ballistics. I shot a couple to get us sighted in and let him take over. He has to have a rest because it’s too heavy for him to hold, being a 40lb guy. But he was hitting clay pigeons at 50 yards and having a ball shooting his “big” rifle. He killed a doe last fall and is sure now that he’s equipped to kill a big buck as well as an elk this year. I hope he’s right.
I just shot a ground hog with my 7600 308 carbine. No great shot. About 70 yards. 180 grain sierra roundnose 44 grains of 4895. This little rifle points all by itself. No recoil, and light to carry. I will be using it more for deer and black bear.
my late uncle has a m7600 in '06 (my cousin has it) and he tells me its not a great shot either. my 760 in 308 was a great shot and so was my grandpap and dad's (RIP) m760 in '06.
Lovin' my 760 .35 Remington. KV barrel code says May 1979 and she was n.i.b. when I bought her last December. Put a n.i.b. Leupold M8 4x in low rings and a standard base. The scope is a J code, so it's 1978. Scored 1400 200 grain Core Lokts from a little hole in the wall shop. With 45 grains of Hodgdon LVR I get 2285 fps over the chrono. She scares the crap out of a inch for 3 at 100. She also likes the Hornady round noses and especially the Sierra 200 grain round noses. Put 10 into 1 &3/8ths at 100. Generally speaking, groups run from 3/4s to 1 & 1/2. Wasn't looking for a 760 .35, but there she was. Callin' my NAME...
Lovin' my 760 .35 Remington. KV barrel code says May 1979 and she was n.i.b. when I bought her last December. Put a n.i.b. Leupold M8 4x in low rings and a standard base. The scope is a J code, so it's 1978. Scored 1400 200 grain Core Lokts from a little hole in the wall shop. With 45 grains of Hodgdon LVR I get 2285 fps over the chrono. She scares the crap out of a inch for 3 at 100. She also likes the Hornady round noses and especially the Sierra 200 grain round noses. Put 10 into 1 &3/8ths at 100. Generally speaking, groups run from 3/4s to 1 & 1/2. Wasn't looking for a 760 .35, but there she was. Callin' my NAME...
Lovin' my 760 .35 Remington. KV barrel code says May 1979 and she was n.i.b. when I bought her last December. Put a n.i.b. Leupold M8 4x in low rings and a standard base. The scope is a J code, so it's 1978. Scored 1400 200 grain Core Lokts from a little hole in the wall shop. With 45 grains of Hodgdon LVR I get 2285 fps over the chrono. She scares the crap out of a inch for 3 at 100. She also likes the Hornady round noses and especially the Sierra 200 grain round noses. Put 10 into 1 &3/8ths at 100. Generally speaking, groups run from 3/4s to 1 & 1/2. Wasn't looking for a 760 .35, but there she was. Callin' my NAME...
Lovin' my 760 .35 Remington. KV barrel code says May 1979 and she was n.i.b. when I bought her last December. Put a n.i.b. Leupold M8 4x in low rings and a standard base. The scope is a J code, so it's 1978. Scored 1400 200 grain Core Lokts from a little hole in the wall shop. With 45 grains of Hodgdon LVR I get 2285 fps over the chrono. She scares the crap out of a inch for 3 at 100. She also likes the Hornady round noses and especially the Sierra 200 grain round noses. Put 10 into 1 &3/8ths at 100. Generally speaking, groups run from 3/4s to 1 & 1/2. Wasn't looking for a 760 .35, but there she was. Callin' my NAME...
I picked up a clean 77 vintage 30/06 a few years back cuz I ain't never had one. Put a scope on it and shot it a couple times. It don't exactly make me warm and fuzzy like packin a Marlin around. It's a good rifle just kinda blocky feeling compared to a lever. It just sits in the safe and don't get no love.
Lovin' my 760 .35 Remington. KV barrel code says May 1979 and she was n.i.b. when I bought her last December. Put a n.i.b. Leupold M8 4x in low rings and a standard base. The scope is a J code, so it's 1978. Scored 1400 200 grain Core Lokts from a little hole in the wall shop. With 45 grains of Hodgdon LVR I get 2285 fps over the chrono. She scares the crap out of a inch for 3 at 100. She also likes the Hornady round noses and especially the Sierra 200 grain round noses. Put 10 into 1 &3/8ths at 100. Generally speaking, groups run from 3/4s to 1 & 1/2. Wasn't looking for a 760 .35, but there she was. Callin' my NAME...
Good rifles. I got 2 of the 1979 model 35 Remington's. Mine loves 41 gr's of H4895 with either a 200 grain RN or the 180 Speer FP. Gonna say it shoots average close to yours. Either side of an inch with the average being more under an inch than just over. Have shot groups pushing close to 1/2" but those are anomalies. But still, on average it's sub MOA.
Runs 2325-2350 with 200's and closer to 2380 with the 180 Speer's. That load is well over book max but never gave me a hint of trouble in a 760 and now that GRT is available it says it's hanging just under 40,000 psi which I would never do in a 141, but that is nothing for a 760. Shot deer with both the 200 CL with that load, and the 180 Speer. It impressed me with both.
Trying something new on my Model 14. I found a dovetail mounted picatinny rail from Skinner Sights. My eyes just are not what they used to be but this thing is going to be a game changer for me. The dot in the picture is distorted. It's much smaller than that.
Trying something new on my Model 14. I found a dovetail mounted picatinny rail from Skinner Sights. My eyes just are not what they used to be but this thing is going to be a game changer for me. The dot in the picture is distorted. It's much smaller than that.
thats a first for me, a reflex sight on a Remington m14!!!
Trying something new on my Model 14. I found a dovetail mounted picatinny rail from Skinner Sights. My eyes just are not what they used to be but this thing is going to be a game changer for me. The dot in the picture is distorted. It's much smaller than that.
Cool deal! I'd be interested in hearing a range report and how you like it.
I got numerous open sighted rifles, some are easier to shoot than others due to the sight size and design, and my not so young anymore eyes. Wouldn't want it on all of them but there's 1 or 2 that something like this would be a really good option for.
bbassi, I went to the Skinner site and couldn't find the Piccatinny rail you mentioned. Got any more detailed info? Got a 141 begging to get out of the safe.
Well that's a new one for me! Hell, if it gets that rifle back in the woods, I'm all for it.
That dot doesn't look that big. It's not like you're bombing 400 yard shots with it.
in the area i hunt, 50 - 60 yards is a long shot. there is a couple of shooting lanes in the trees and brush that go 100-125 yards, but for 20 or so years, i haven't seen a deer go thru them. that reflex sight is good to go!!!
bbassi, I went to the Skinner site and couldn't find the Piccatinny rail you mentioned. Got any more detailed info? Got a 141 begging to get out of the safe.
bbassi, I went to the Skinner site and couldn't find the Piccatinny rail you mentioned. Got any more detailed info? Got a 141 begging to get out of the safe.
It's on this page about 1/3 of the way down. dovetail
It was pretty well hid but I saw a picture on a google search and back tracked it to Skinner. Even then it took a while to find.
Skinner also makes a dovetail peep that I have on my 141, but I think this pistol reflex is going to be the ticket. It sure points nice and both eyes open is a big plus.
bbassi, I went to the Skinner site and couldn't find the Piccatinny rail you mentioned. Got any more detailed info? Got a 141 begging to get out of the safe.
bbassi, I went to the Skinner site and couldn't find the Piccatinny rail you mentioned. Got any more detailed info? Got a 141 begging to get out of the safe.
Skinner also makes a dovetail peep that I have on my 141, but I think this pistol reflex is going to be the ticket. It sure points nice and both eyes open is a big plus.
Have you been able to do much with the 760 Carbine I sold you?
I've shot it quite a bit. Took it bear "hunting" in the Adirondacks last fall and probably will again in September. It's become one of my favorite ugly guns. And no, I'm not selling it back to you.
Stopped by the "fun store" today and spied an interesting shooter on the rack. 141 Carbine complete with a "climbing Lyman"! Price was okay but the manager made it even better so it came home with me. Not pristine but solid and pretty rare according to what I'm finding online. Now to find some ammo.
My favorite vintage sight. My father had his 64 Winchester set up with one as did his brother on his 141. Those rifles are in this pic taken in the 40s when my dad was home on leave.
I ran across an article put out in The Remington Society on these 141 carbines and learned some interesting information. Link to article They were made using leftover model 14 barrels. Apparently they didn’t garner much demand so when the barrels ran out they made no more. Estimated production was 150-250 in 4 calibers, majority being.30 Remington. Estimates are between 20-60 made in .32 Rem. making it a fairly rare version of the 141. I contacted the man in the article that collects data on these carbines, he has information on 48 of them, 6 being produced in December of ‘41 along with mine. He also said the Lyman 21 sight for the Remington is quite rare. It’s probably worth more than I gave for the rifle. You never know what will turn up on the rack, I’m happy. I’ll be happier when I find a bit of ammo. [i][/i]
Tmitch that climbing lyman is sweet! I have a 141 with the lyman R14 tang peep but that climbing sight would be the cadillac of sights on that style rifle. Cool deal. Congrats.
It’s filthy and I’m headed to the shop to clean it up and check it over. If any of you Midwest or PA guys are needing one, I could probably be traded out of it even though it’s pretty neat and I can feel it growing on me.
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Don't trade that. It's classic. The police wood is fantastic. I don't have any pump rifles. But I have your rifle's 12 gauge cousin.
I picked up a '68 in 270 last week. Then went and bought a verity of factory from Walmart to see if it would like anything. I think she'll do ok. Winchester PP on top, Remington 150 RN in the middle and Federal blue box on the bottom. 100 yds. She's not picky.
February before last I scored a 760 5 of diamonds vintage in 30-06 and a std grade 760 in 308. The 308 had a old Reffield jr 1 piece mount on it. One of those with the flip down peep on the back of the base..I wanted to see how good it would shoot so I put a Vari X llc 3x9 on it. Rough sighted it at 25 yds yesterday moved back to 50 yds and dialed ii in using some handloads with Tac and the old 125 gr RP cone pt. Will switch to heavier bullets and get it 2" high at 100. Was pleasantly surprised at how tight it shot. Somewhere down the line I'll pull the scope and set up the peep and a right height frt sight for back up. Getting the itch. mb
I was at a gun show this past weekend. There were 6-8 7600/760s, all in common calibers. The least expensive was $1875 and was bubba'd/painted and beat. The most was a 308 carbine and the asking price was $3700.
There is n secrete to any action in killing game. The whole deal rest's on the shoulder of the shooter. What the shooter should be doing is using a rifle he is familar with and trust's absolutely! with that he should be able to place the bullet where it needs to go.
There is n secrete to any action in killing game. The whole deal rest's on the shoulder of the shooter. What the shooter should be doing is using a rifle he is familar with and trust's absolutely! with that he should be able to place the bullet where it needs to go.
After seeing the most recent prices I'm not sure if I should post this but I'm gonna anyway. Bought this 760 today, it was under $600 & it's a carbine. I sure don't need another deer rifle but it's the first carbine I've come across and although it's got some spots of surface rust & a few dings it doesn't have much wear at all. The old Weaver 4x isn't very pretty but the glass is clear. The stock is a Fajen replacement, I kinda like it.
I don't have any history on it but it appears to have been made in 1960. It's in great shape other than a few of the usual dents & scratches from hunting. It'll probably have one or two more before I'm done hunting with it. The price of guns is crazy, if I didn't have something to trade I probably wouldn't have bought it even though it was pretty reasonable.
The same shop took in two more Remington pumps today. A 141 carbine in .30 Remington & a 141 in .35 Remington. They were both in great condition but the carbine was almost perfect until I saw the broken butt plate and a thin crack in the stock. The first gun I ever bought there was a 141 in .35 Rem.
What always surprised me was how light and responsive my uncles .30 Remington m14 and my buddy’s .32 Remington m14 felt compared to the m141 .35 Remington that I had. That 141 was sure a chunk of steel imo and had a barrel about 2-4 inches longer than I thought it should have been. Making it into a carbine just made it into a shorter chunk.
The same shop took in two more Remington pumps today. A 141 carbine in .30 Remington & a 141 in .35 Remington. They were both in great condition but the carbine was almost perfect until I saw the broken butt plate and a thin crack in the stock. The first gun I ever bought there was a 141 in .35 Rem.
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
Now that is a winner ST! Awesome shooting buddy!
Thanks bud. At 53 with all the things that I can tell I'm no longer 18, it makes me feel good I can still manage to shoot decent with irons. For now anyhow.
My eyes of course cannot begin to pick up that red circle at 100 yds, that was just for a reference for POI after I got it on the bullseye at 50. All I can do is line up center of the paper.
What always surprised me was how light and responsive my uncles .30 Remington m14 and my buddy’s .32 Remington m14 felt compared to the m141 .35 Remington that I had. That 141 was sure a chunk of steel imo and had a barrel about 2-4 inches longer than I thought it should have been. Making it into a carbine just made it into a shorter chunk.
The Model 141 rifles have a 2" longer barrel and physically larger/heavier wood, so they feel different from the Model 14 rifles. I don't know if the changes improved the rifle or not, as the 141s don't seem as handy or as naturally pointing as the 14s do to me.
John Wooters had a 141 with the barrel cut back to just forward of the front of the magazine tube that I always liked the look of and thought about doing that back when nice 141s were easy to find for under $350. I have a really nice 141 in 35 REM that is nearly mint and original, except for the receiver having been d&t for a receiver sight, even with the two non-factory holes it seems like too nice a rifle to booger up any more.
What is the going rate on m760 BDL 's in 30-06 the model with the basket weave checkering and Monte Carlo.? It also has the little hump in the receiver with weaver bases, rings and old k-4 micro trac. Looks like 85 -90 % original condition. Input appreciated..mb
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
I have 7600 Carbine with a monte carlo stock. I've always wanted to put a peep sight on it, but heard that a lot of guys don't like using them with the higher comb. Do you wish it had a straight comb?
What is the going rate on m760 BDL 's in 30-06 the model with the basket weave checkering and Monte Carlo.? It also has the little hump in the receiver with weaver bases, rings and old k-4 micro trac. Looks like 85 -90 % original condition. Input appreciated..mb
Those BDLs in 3006 seem to go 6-800 lately. Add $100 for a GB premium. Personally IDK if I like the square forearms and Monte Carlo stocks, It seems like Remington was trying to bridge the gap between pumps and bolt actions with that one.
Personally IDK if I like the square forearms and Monte Carlo stocks, It seems like Remington was trying to bridge the gap between pumps and bolt actions with that one.
I don't like them at all and have passed on quite a few at a decent price. No use in owning a gun you don't like. I'm not sure the reasoning on that forearm piece for those few years.
Personally IDK if I like the square forearms and Monte Carlo stocks, It seems like Remington was trying to bridge the gap between pumps and bolt actions with that one.
I don't like them at all and have passed on quite a few at a decent price. No use in owning a gun you don't like. I'm not sure the reasoning on that forearm piece for those few years.
What always surprised me was how light and responsive my uncles .30 Remington m14 and my buddy’s .32 Remington m14 felt compared to the m141 .35 Remington that I had. That 141 was sure a chunk of steel imo and had a barrel about 2-4 inches longer than I thought it should have been. Making it into a carbine just made it into a shorter chunk.
The Model 141 rifles have a 2" longer barrel and physically larger/heavier wood, so they feel different from the Model 14 rifles. I don't know if the changes improved the rifle or not, as the 141s don't seem as handy or as naturally pointing as the 14s do to me.
John Wooters had a 141 with the barrel cut back to just forward of the front of the magazine tube that I always liked the look of and thought about doing that back when nice 141s were easy to find for under $350. I have a really nice 141 in 35 REM that is nearly mint and original, except for the receiver having been d&t for a receiver sight, even with the two non-factory holes it seems like too nice a rifle to booger up any more.
While I don’t have a Model 14 (yet) to compare, the difference in handling between my 141 rifle and carbine are night and day. I have a feeling the straight grip stock on a 14 carbine would make it feel even lighter/livelier.
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
I have 7600 Carbine with a monte carlo stock. I've always wanted to put a peep sight on it, but heard that a lot of guys don't like using them with the higher comb. Do you wish it had a straight comb?
My 7600 308 has the Monte Carlo stock with a peep site and I have long been meaning to replace the stock with a low comb stock. Been years since I’ve shot the rifle and this thread was the thread that broke the camels back. Have an 870 20 gauge buttstock in my midway cart now.
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
I have 7600 Carbine with a monte carlo stock. I've always wanted to put a peep sight on it, but heard that a lot of guys don't like using them with the higher comb. Do you wish it had a straight comb?
To be honest I never even thought about it. Shouldering it up it's not like I have to move my head around at all to make things line up. Possibly have to burrow in a little harder on the stock than I would with a straight stock I don't know. Like I said it hadn't occurred to me because it seems to be on point.
Not to be a smart aleck and none of us can help how we're made, but I suppose if a fella had a big head with more distance between his cheekbone and eye the monte carlo type stock might not feel natural with a peep.
1) Straight (old style) comb iron sights ("Iron sights" meaning an aperture sight of some sort, usually a Skinner or Williams) 2) Straight comb scoped. 3) Raised comb iron sights 4) Raised comb scope.
So over the years I've winnowed things down a bit and have eliminated #3 "Raised Comb, Iron Sights": Just too complicated. The main problem being the sights don't naturally align when you raise to present.
Still open on the others. Surprisingly with low mounted scope the old straight comb does OK, which I was not expecting.
My main problem is a failing left (weak side) shoulder which increasingly makes painful a crisp pumping action, but that's a whole different issue.
My 7600 carbine was bought new in 2019. At that time Hal Blood of Big Woods Bucks was working with Remington tweaking the 7600. I have owned 4 or 5 in the past and they never fit me right, and were awkward with a scope. I always loved the idea, but for me they fell short. In ‘19 I decided to try again. I mounted a 1.5-5 Leupold and it carried like a dream and pointed like my index finger. I don’t know what they did, the stock has a little more drop I think than previous models, but for me they got it right. This year I mounted a 1-4x24 Trijicon and it improved the balance and pointing more.
I have both, with open sights or a peep I'd want the straight stock but with a scope I prefer the raised, it just fits me better. My days of roaming the woods are over so there's no real advantage to the carbine other than it's a little easier moving inside an enclosed blind.
That’s nice, looks very similar to the early low comb models. I have one from the early 70’s. It feels good with a low mounted scope, but really good with the Williams WGRS peep!
That seems like a bargain these days. I prefer the old ones with the corncob forends and uncheckered butt stocks. Bonus if it has the aluminum butt plate.
I think it’s probably priced right. Gunbroker is crazy but that’s also with more rare rifles. But for nostalgia it’s pretty tough to beat a mid 50’s 760 with open sights.
It is drilled and tapped. We were trying to find out if it was factory or not.
It does have the corncob stock and the aluminum butt plate. Along with a set of swivels that were put in very nicely.
The corn cob is not my favorite style but not bad. Don’t care for the newer ones with the real wide forearm.
I could be wrong on this so don't take it as gospel, but I believe the 1954 models would've came factory drilled and tapped for scope mounts. In 1952 they were not, in 1953 they also were not, but the 1953 BDL model that we now call 5 diamond was drilled and tapped, and I believe by 1954 they all were, but I could be off by a yr or so on that.
Tzone. Like the vortex. It's got a 32 front objective. It's compact. It does have bullet compensating reticle. Clear scope. Dials are spot on. Large fov at 1.75. 5x is enough
Have my 760 std 308 rifle ready to go its a 54 model with the grooved forend and Old 1 piece Redfield Jr base with flip up peep. Scope is a Vari X llc 3x9. Shoots 150 gr Hornady sp's nice with TAC..MB
This was the first year he used the 300. It’s really too heavy for him but I put a shortened stock on it and scooted the old 4X all the way back and he actually shoots it well off sticks or prone over a pack.
I tried to talk him into using the AR because he likes it and shot his deer last fall with it. But he’s positive he can slay any creature and rule the world with a 300 Savage. Yesterday evening while we were sitting he was making plans for his first Alaskan fly in hunt. Dad’s paying and he’s killing a big bull caribou with his 300.
This was the first year he used the 300. It’s really too heavy for him but I put a shortened stock on it and scooted the old 4X all the way back and he actually shoots it well off sticks or prone over a pack.
I tried to talk him into using the AR because he likes it and shot his deer last fall with it. But he’s positive he can slay any creature and rule the world with a 300 Savage. Yesterday evening while we were sitting he was making plans for his first Alaskan fly in hunt. Dad’s paying and he’s killing a big bull caribou with his 300.
This was the first year he used the 300. It’s really too heavy for him but I put a shortened stock on it and scooted the old 4X all the way back and he actually shoots it well off sticks or prone over a pack.
I tried to talk him into using the AR because he likes it and shot his deer last fall with it. But he’s positive he can slay any creature and rule the world with a 300 Savage. Yesterday evening while we were sitting he was making plans for his first Alaskan fly in hunt. Dad’s paying and he’s killing a big bull caribou with his 300.
I'd not recommend a bi-pod mounted to the barrel for a Remington pump. Get him a "Trigger stick" instead. Not the single post one, at least the two legged one or, better yet, tripod post one. Have him shoot with the forearm, not the barrel, rested in the yoke. You don't want to put inconsistent upward pressure on the barrel. BTDT.
The mighty 300 spoke yesterday, 9 minutes into opening morning. One step closer to world domination by 300 Savage!
I replaced the butt stock on my .300 to, except I found a monte-carlo stock. Those original ones are great for irons but not so good for a scope. To much drop. Nice buck and a happy hunter.
The stock on the kids 760 is a replacement. I would have bought one like that but found the monti-carlo first. The original stocks had more drop than that.
Yes the one currently on it is a newer replacement. I was looking for a beater to cut down for him and a Fire member offered me the one on it already cut and wearing a pad. I still have the original with the aluminum butt plate and no checkering that will go back on someday.
It’s really too heavy for him but he insists on using it and shoots it well off sticks. So we load moderate charges of 4895 under plain old 150gr bullets and it seems to work great. Of course all I use in any of my other 300s is plain old 150s at moderate speed and they’ve always worked great for me too.
Got my newly done 7600 back and start working load development. It's a JES re-bore to 358Win, barrel chopped to 19", added synthetic furniture, had it Cerakoted in Burnt Bronze and added a Swarovski 1.25-4X.
Scratch load for pressure testing, first 4 rds at 50yds out of the newly bored barrel, 1st shot low, then an adjustment:
The next 3 shots were similar. Then things started getting goofy as I was doing load testing. I was getting two groups per test load, around 3MOA total at 50yds. It would hold windage pretty well, the the elevation was terrible. So I tried a different benchrest, then tried resting the forearm on my hand in a standard grip. Still the same. I'd get it zero'd then.. 2 rds out of a group 4" higher. I also tried 2 different bullets, same same.
I checked the normal culprits, scope rail and mounts were solid etc. The scope had zero issues on my 350RM
I desided to strip it down and check everything. Then I noticed the forearm was loose(r), then I notice than the action tube was also slightly loose. So basically a loose barrel. I think my smith didn't want to risk scratching the new Cerakote, and 7600/760s aren't all that common here, so he went easy on the tightening.
I had already bought a 7600 action tube tool so I could really get it tight.
So, is this loosening common? Should I go ahead and red loctite it? I kind of like the idea of being able to break it down every couple years for a good cleaning.
I bought a pump rifle maybe a couple years ago and haven't hunted with it yet. I took it out the safe today and looked it over. Might drag it out to the woods in the next couple weeks and let it eat.
Deer I put a stalk on in some high weeds along a cut corn field this yr. Old Remington 141 in 35 Remington with a Lyman peep. Shot was 45 yds, it went 10 ft.
Last evening approaching very last legal shooting light I got a chance at a big doe. The easy thing would've been a scoped rifle, especially overlooking a field, but I stuck to the plan. Wanted to shoot 1 with this. Remington 7600 in 30-06 with a Skinner peep. Shot was around 80 yds, took out the top half of the heart, deer ran a good 80-100 yds.
Thanks bud. No buck this yr, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. Never got a opportunity at a legal buck. But thankful to have 2 that will go in the freezer. Got late flintlock season yet, and a buck and doe tag left.
Thanks bud. No buck this yr, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. Never got a opportunity at a legal buck. But thankful to have 2 that will go in the freezer. Got late flintlock season yet, and a buck and doe tag left.
Get after em! With that pretty flintlock you should have a good time just being in the woods with it!
Got one of mine ready to roll for this yr. Last time I shot it with a Skinner Lo-Pro sight, it put 4 at a little over 1.5", 3 shot was just under an inch at 100.
Sent that back and paid the difference for a Skinner Express because I goofed and didn't realize my front sight wasn't dovetailed in so wasn't windage adjustable, and the Lo-Pro obviously is not. My fault.
The express peep sits at the right distance for my eyes. Took a couple shots to get it sighted in at 50 then went to a 100 yd target. Tad high but I'll probably leave it alone. 4 shot is just under 1.25", 3 shot just under 3/4". Probably about as good as I can do anymore. It likes this load, that's good because I got a crap ton of those Sierra 150's.
I have 7600 Carbine with a monte carlo stock. I've always wanted to put a peep sight on it, but heard that a lot of guys don't like using them with the higher comb. Do you wish it had a straight comb?
My 7600 308 has the Monte Carlo stock with a peep site and I have long been meaning to replace the stock with a low comb stock. Been years since I’ve shot the rifle and this thread was the thread that broke the camels back. Have an 870 20 gauge buttstock in my midway cart now.
Bringing this back up and am wondering if you got the stock and how you like it?? I really like this rifle, carries well and shoots well, but I will admit that if I practice just snapping it up I'm a touch high with my head/eye when I first shoulder it. I don't think about it otherwise because with a peep your eye naturally looks for the most light and the most light is when your eye is centered in the peep but that takes an extra second or so to get burrowed in proper. If not snap shooting I don't think about it.
The most natural shouldering peep rifle I have as far as eye alignment is a 141. If I look at a small spot and snap it up my eye is naturally centered in the peep.
Have two pump guns, a 73 Gamemaster and an 87 7600. They havent been in the woods yet. Safe queens right now. Looking for a 14 or 141 to go with them, along with a first year .35 Rem 760.
Thinking about cutting one of them down to 18” and hanging the 30-30 up for a season.
After a few years hiatus I re-joined the 760 cult a couple weeks ago. 1954 vintage. The mag release lever worked harder than hell so I shortened the spring by 2 1/2 coils. It's getting better now. The wood doesn't match & I'm not sure either of them are original but the metal is in beautiful shape for a 70 year old gun.
Does anyone have an idea why the pumps are more accurate than most of the 742 autos? I'm sure you can get lucky with the auto sometimes, but every one I've shot, including mine, mostly shoot like crap. If I get a solid 3.5" group at 100yds. I stop trying.
Does anyone have an idea why the pumps are more accurate than most of the 742 autos? I'm sure you can get lucky with the auto sometimes, but every one I've shot, including mine, mostly shoot like crap. If I get a solid 3.5" group at 100yds. I stop trying.
It's the gas block. I've owned 3. 2 '06 and a 308. Sold them all as I could not get better that 3" groups at 100. All of my 760/7600 will shoot 1" or better. Some folks where shots are close are OK with 3", but I never was.
Stopped in a shop the other day that had a 760 in 270 for what seems to be a decent price. $500 I believe.
Finish was a bit rough. Didn’t look at the bore. Could be a good project gun. 🤷♂️
That's a steal in todays world.
Seems to be. It’s been there a while though. Haven’t looked close but it does have some pitting. Could be a good candidate for a home refinish and coating. Maybe even a trip for a 9.3 rebore 😁
Beltway Gun and Pawn in Charlotte if anyone is curious.
Does anyone have an idea why the pumps are more accurate than most of the 742 autos? I'm sure you can get lucky with the auto sometimes, but every one I've shot, including mine, mostly shoot like crap. If I get a solid 3.5" group at 100yds. I stop trying.
It's the gas block. I've owned 3. 2 '06 and a 308. Sold them all as I could not get better that 3" groups at 100. All of my 760/7600 will shoot 1" or better. Some folks where shots are close are OK with 3", but I never was.
My 760 shoots well but it’s a chore. The trigger is pretty bad. All my shotguns have better triggers. Lol.
Scott , it is a good price out east the market is a little lower out here. 2 years ago I paid 750 for a 5 of diamonds 30-06 and std grade 54 model in 308 bought them both from the same guy. I paid 500 for a minty 7600 in 270 and an real early std grade 35 rem for 550. I don't keep up on prices real well and that has cost me some opportunity. Like in 222, 244 ,257 for around 1100-1250 ea. That 's life can't buy them all..mb
Somewhere in there should be about 18 760’s. Lightest is a 1966 .222R/ 1 of 200 made in a special run for the Running Deer matches barrel code AN. Other than that there is a 5Diamond .257R. Carbines- 2X .280, .270 5 Diamond, 308 & a 30/06, no .35 though, has anyone ever seen one?
Two .35’s of which one is an unfired 1981 model with an also unfired 141 in .35.
First gun I ever hunted with was my Dads 14/32rem back in the 60’s and down the rabbit hole I went with the 14’s to start. A .25 rifle, carbine & a Model 8, .30,32 & 35. A Dominion of Canada 14 1/2 that is almost like new (1915) because the thickness of the rims on Rem or Win brass wouldn’t feed and whoever owned it never corrected it, Starline works flawlessly. Haven’t hunted with any of them as I’m more of a hoarder I’ve been told.
Stopped in a shop the other day that had a 760 in 270 for what seems to be a decent price. $500 I believe.
Finish was a bit rough. Didn’t look at the bore. Could be a good project gun. 🤷♂️
That's a steal in todays world.
Thays about what I’m seeing them for too in that condition. I’m looking for a 7600, walnut. Found a 270 synthetic, but not what I’d like.
What chambering are you looking for?
30-06 or .308 Win.
Gotcha. I have a 30-06 that I've no plans to get rid of, but I do have a nice factory engraved 243 that is sitting here doing nothing. I haven't even thought about getting rid of it until you mentioned looking for one, but if you're looking for a larger caliber that's a moot point. You should be able to come up with one.
Stopped in a shop the other day that had a 760 in 270 for what seems to be a decent price. $500 I believe.
Finish was a bit rough. Didn’t look at the bore. Could be a good project gun. 🤷♂️
That's a steal in todays world.
Thays about what I’m seeing them for too in that condition. I’m looking for a 7600, walnut. Found a 270 synthetic, but not what I’d like.
What chambering are you looking for?
30-06 or .308 Win.
Gotcha. I have a 30-06 that I've no plans to get rid of, but I do have a nice factory engraved 243 that is sitting here doing nothing. I haven't even thought about getting rid of it until you mentioned looking for one, but if you're looking for a larger caliber that's a moot point. You should be able to come up with one.
You should be able to sell that sucker for a good price. .243 and engraved look like they’re going for plenty.
I was bidding on a decent 141 in .35 Remington today. I went up to $450, and it sold for $470. Had a buy it now price of $525. Good original gun with no cracks in the stock or extra holes anywhere. Kinda wish I had bought it. It’s good to see prices starting to come down.
I was bidding on a decent 141 in .35 Remington today. I went up to $450, and it sold for $470. Had a buy it now price of $525. Good original gun with no cracks in the stock or extra holes anywhere. Kinda wish I had bought it. It’s good to see prices starting to come down.
Seen that last evening when it was posted. It was a good deal if you were looking for, or needed one for sure. It was neither for me so like a lot of guns I had to tell myself, I do not need this. Ha.
Seen that last evening when it was posted. It was a good deal if you were looking for, or needed one for sure. It was neither for me so like a lot of guns I had to tell myself, I do not need this. Ha.
I said the same thing but was glad it sold quick. I can be weak when it comes to those.
Not a deer, but I did get to try out the new 7600 in .358 this week:
180 grn Speer HotCore through the shoulders.
Nice. I keep talking myself in and then out of a 358. Mostly because the short actions are so hard to find. I may end up sending a '06 to JES to make a 35W carbine if I do anything. I can load a 35W down to 358 but not the other way around.
Not a deer, but I did get to try out the new 7600 in .358 this week:
180 grn Speer HotCore through the shoulders.
Nice. I keep talking myself in and then out of a 358. Mostly because the short actions are so hard to find. I may end up sending a '06 to JES to make a 35W carbine if I do anything. I can load a 35W down to 358 but not the other way around.
I think with the 7600/760s long VS short is just a magazine. I went with the 358 because I already have a Rem M7 in .350RM and I wanted something deer specific for drives and still hunting. I really wanted a 35Rem performance without the lack of brass issues.
Nice going Chuck. NICE RIFLE! I'd have to say, My 358 carbine, is my favorite 7600 when I hunt the local swamps. I've haven't tried the 180 Speers(Yet). I've been using 200 Hornady PSP over TAC.
The 180s are over TAC also, 2550 out of a 19" barrel.
Surprisingly destructive though.. I use Horn 200SPs over TAC in my 350 for deer and pigs at a little over 2860. I might try the 200s in the 358. I was worried about the 358 19" MV and expansion, but at the distances I'm using the 7600 for, it's not going to matter.
Not a deer, but I did get to try out the new 7600 in .358 this week:
180 grn Speer HotCore through the shoulders.
Nice. I keep talking myself in and then out of a 358. Mostly because the short actions are so hard to find. I may end up sending a '06 to JES to make a 35W carbine if I do anything. I can load a 35W down to 358 but not the other way around.
I think with the 7600/760s long VS short is just a magazine. I went with the 358 because I already have a Rem M7 in .350RM and I wanted something deer specific for drives and still hunting. I really wanted a 35Rem performance without the lack of brass issues.
Chuckr Is your worried about expansion of the 200sps in your 358, the 200 rn will address that nicely. Hard to find in today’s market but they are out there. F01
Chuckr Is your worried about expansion of the 200sps in your 358, the 200 rn will address that nicely. Hard to find in today’s market but they are out there. F01
Would anyone here be interested in a dedicated REMINGTON forum? Want to know how much interest is out there. I know there's a ton of knowledgeable people on the fire and I think it would be a great place for all the remington fans to hang out and learn and share what they know to others.
Would anyone here be interested in a dedicated REMINGTON forum? Want to know how much interest is out there. I know there's a ton of knowledgeable people on the fire and I think it would be a great place for all the Remington fans to hang out and learn and share what they know to others.
Chuckr Is your worried about expansion of the 200sps in your 358, the 200 rn will address that nicely. Hard to find in today’s market but they are out there. F01
THANKS!
I'll try to find some in time for next season.
Churckr, If you can't find any of the RN locally and want to try some. Lemmeno, I have a bunch left over from my 35Remington days. I've not found a need to use them in the 358 but I'm sure they would work rather nicely.
Chuckr Is your worried about expansion of the 200sps in your 358, the 200 rn will address that nicely. Hard to find in today’s market but they are out there. F01
THANKS!
I'll try to find some in time for next season.
Churckr, If you can't find any of the RN locally and want to try some. Lemmeno, I have a bunch left over from my 35Remington days. I've not found a need to use them in the 358 but I'm sure they would work rather nicely.
THANKS for the offer!
They just came in stock at Midway, so I've got a box on order. I figure I'll try them on next years pig hunt.. IF they come apart and ruin some meat, no great loss.
[quote=Chuck_R][quote=Fury01]Chuckr Is your worried about expansion of the 200sps in your 358, the 200 rn will address that nicely. Hard to find in today’s market but they are out there. F01
THANKS for the offer!
They just came in stock at Midway, so I've got a box on order. I figure I'll try them on next years pig hunt.. IF they come apart and ruin some meat, no great loss.
Would anyone here be interested in a dedicated REMINGTON forum? Want to know how much interest is out there. I know there's a ton of knowledgeable people on the fire and I think it would be a great place for all the remington fans to hang out and learn and share what they know to others.
Would anyone here be interested in a dedicated REMINGTON forum? Want to know how much interest is out there. I know there's a ton of knowledgeable people on the fire and I think it would be a great place for all the remington fans to hang out and learn and share what they know to others.
Often not a lot of activity or members who regularly post on that site, some of forums go for days without updates or responses to questions. Believe a dedicated Remington Collectors Forum on the ‘fire would have a LOT more traffic.
That said, I’ve been a member of RSA for over 10 years and visit the site 4 or 5 times a week.
What's not to like about that one! Good shooting, is that a Marbles sight by chance? Have the same thing on my 141.
It's a Lyman R14. I justified the cost of the gun on the fact i could sell the sight and get more than 1/2 my money back, but turns out I like it!
Ha. You're like me. I did the same with a 141 in 35 Remington. Paid what was a good buy for it IMO back in 2018 and when I seen what those R-14's were bringing, I figured I got a super deal.
Problem is for me it's not a very good justification because that sight is not coming off as long as I'm using the rifle. I like it too much. With it's flip down feature I initially left the factory rear sight in, but ended up putting a sight blank in it and just use the Lyman as it works way better for me.
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
Never used one, eh?
In fact they are simple actions that are quite robust and reliable. I've had many over the years from 223 up to 35Whelens and loaded for them all. They will digest max loads and extract with no problem at all. Also, they are quite easy to disassemble for cleaning including removing the barrel. No special tools required.
Furthermore .... A rifle is not a weapon unless it it used as such.
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
Never used one, eh?
In fact they are simple actions that are quite robust and reliable. I've had many over the years from 223 up to 35Whelens and loaded for them all. They will digest max loads and extract with no problem at all. Also, they are quite easy to disassemble for cleaning including removing the barrel. No special tools required.
Furthermore .... A rifle is not a weapon unless it it used as such.
Has anyone ever heard of a "connecting bar" ever bending or breaking on any Remington pump?
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
Never used one, eh?
In fact they are simple actions that are quite robust and reliable. I've had many over the years from 223 up to 35Whelens and loaded for them all. They will digest max loads and extract with no problem at all. Also, they are quite easy to disassemble for cleaning including removing the barrel. No special tools required.
Furthermore .... A rifle is not a weapon unless it it used as such.
Has anyone ever heard of a "connecting bar" ever bending or breaking on any Remington pump?
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
Never used one, eh?
In fact they are simple actions that are quite robust and reliable. I've had many over the years from 223 up to 35Whelens and loaded for them all. They will digest max loads and extract with no problem at all. Also, they are quite easy to disassemble for cleaning including removing the barrel. No special tools required.
Furthermore .... A rifle is not a weapon unless it it used as such.
Has anyone ever heard of a "connecting bar" ever bending or breaking on any Remington pump?
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
Never used one, eh?
In fact they are simple actions that are quite robust and reliable. I've had many over the years from 223 up to 35Whelens and loaded for them all. They will digest max loads and extract with no problem at all. Also, they are quite easy to disassemble for cleaning including removing the barrel. No special tools required.
Furthermore .... A rifle is not a weapon unless it it used as such.
WHAT SC said!
I've spent a long lifetime shooting MANY 870's, 7600's and 760's and never had an issue with the connecting bars!
When I think of pump actions...I think of over complicated actions with long flimsy connecting bars that love to bend and snap when something binds up. I have enough fun breaking down mossberg 500s at work for occasional cleaning... I dont want that headache from any of my personal weapons
Never used one, eh?
In fact they are simple actions that are quite robust and reliable. I've had many over the years from 223 up to 35Whelens and loaded for them all. They will digest max loads and extract with no problem at all. Also, they are quite easy to disassemble for cleaning including removing the barrel. No special tools required.
Furthermore .... A rifle is not a weapon unless it it used as such.
WHAT SC said!
I've spent a long lifetime shooting MANY 870's, 7600's and 760's and never had an issue with the connecting bars!
More internet folklore from people that haven't used one before.
I’ve seen broken action bars on 870s but never a 760/7600. The shotgun action bars are smaller and have the angled cutouts to activate the shell latches. The 760/7600 action bars have no such cutouts and are one solid piece that is attached to the bolt carrier and therefore much more rigid.
I will say that while not normally a problem the pumps don’t have the extraction camming power of a bolt rifle. The second buck I ever killed I had to give my 760 a Pogo stick whack on the butt while holding the forend to get it to spit the empty out after the first shot. Likely due to a dirty chamber back before I knew any better.
I will say that while not normally a problem the pumps don’t have the extraction camming power of a bolt rifle. The second buck I ever killed I had to give my 760 a Pogo stick whack on the butt while holding the forend to get it to spit the empty out after the first shot. Likely due to a dirty chamber back before I knew any better.
I've seen a couple rifles (one 760 included) that had a very fine covering of rust in the chamber that would hold spent shells like a vice grip, even with very light loads.
Very fine steel wool on a slotted dowel with lots of light oil chucked in a slow drill fixed them both.
I will say that while not normally a problem the pumps don’t have the extraction camming power of a bolt rifle. The second buck I ever killed I had to give my 760 a Pogo stick whack on the butt while holding the forend to get it to spit the empty out after the first shot. Likely due to a dirty chamber back before I knew any better.
I've seen a couple rifles (one 760 included) that had a very fine covering of rust in the chamber that would hold spent shells like a vice grip, even with very light loads.
Very fine steel wool on a slotted dowel with lots of light oil chucked in a slow drill fixed them both.
Yep, a lot of them with a lot of people had the habit of getting used hard and not well cared for until all of a sudden there's a problem. Guy dropped one off here because it wouldn't go off. Said the trigger would pull and nothing would happen. Took one look in the chamber and seen the problem. Dirty, rusty. Action would go closed but too tight to go forward enough to completely close where it would lock the action bar, so therefore the trigger wouldn't set.
I cleaned it by hand with a slotted dowel and fine scotch brite soaked in Hoppe's. Shined the bore right up. Worked like a top after that .
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My 06 deluxe carbine. Both of mine wear trijicon accupoints now. They point and shoot better then any other gun I have ever shouldered. Target acquisition with the accupoints single post reticle is just awesome in the big woods.
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