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Posted By: bkraft Gutless Field Dressing - 12/03/19
Have any of you guys tried it? Seen several videos seems straight forward enough, any tricks or "hacks" any would like to share?
Posted By: jwall Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/03/19
b k

Yes, I do the gutless method all the time UNLESS, I'm going to let the deer hang and age, OR I'm giving the whole deer to friends. I have a few friends that occasionally will take a deer for themselves. Then I do the traditional gutting.

I don't know what videos you've seen so.....

It only makes sense to me to hang the deer by the hind legs from a gambrel that separates the hind 1/4s.
The last deer I gutted for friends, I left it laying on he ground the old fashioned way. That is harder.

You need a sharp 'clip' point blade to cut around the anus and end of the large intestine.

When you get to the point of retrieving the tender loins -- carefully cut into the body cavity down to the sternum.
That allows you enuff room to push the intestines and stomach down so you can cut and remove the TLs.

The gutless method is almost second nature to me and hopefully I haven't overlooked anything critical.

Good Luck

Jerry
Posted By: hanco Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
It’s the only way to fly unless you gut shot one.
Posted By: Girlhunter Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Hard to get the heart out with the insides still inside.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
I've done it 4 or 5 times with elk and twice on moose. Every one was extremely tough chewing. Boning meat before it goes into rigor will allow the muscle fibers to contract which makes them tough. Leaving the meat on the bone until it cools enough to go into rigor will prevent the contraction.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Originally Posted by Girlhunter
Hard to get the heart out with the insides still inside.
After the meat's off, cut a couple ribs and take it out through the hole.
Posted By: bkraft Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
I hadn't thought of the toughness issue. Thanks guys, I'm gonna rethink this.
Posted By: RMiller2 Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Originally Posted by Girlhunter
Hard to get the heart out with the insides still inside.


I cut down both sides of a rib and yank that rib out, leaves room to remove the heart.
Posted By: saddlesore Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I've done it 4 or 5 times with elk and twice on moose. Every one was extremely tough chewing. Boning meat before it goes into rigor will allow the muscle fibers to contract which makes them tough. Leaving the meat on the bone until it cools enough to go into rigor will prevent the contraction.


Only part that is not on the bone is the back strap.You are right about that though.

I'm thinking next year to leave the back strap unit last. Then using a saw,cut down along each side of the back strap at the top of the ribs so you only have the spine and back strap in one piece.Only have to go to the front of the pelvis bone because when you took the hinds off, you started there. Then cut the neck off. Probably have to puncture the paunch to let some gas out to be able to use the saw.

If I am by myself I usually have to gut anyway because I can't move the carcass around with all the guts in.I guess all it would save me is not splitting the spline.
This would be for elk, not deer. I don't have any qualms about gutting deer. Gut them, cut in half in front of the last rib and throw 1/2 the carcass into panniers, then one on each side of the mule.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Gone both ways, and my preference is to handle bone in halves for quarters. Typically though we're in camps that might be in place for another week to 10 days. I experience a lot more trim loss with the gutless approach.
Posted By: jwall Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I've done it 4 or 5 times with elk and twice on moose. Every one was extremely tough chewing. Boning meat before it goes into rigor will allow the muscle fibers to contract which makes them tough. Leaving the meat on the bone until it cools enough to go into rigor will prevent the contraction.


Yes, you're right.

However I process my WT at home and I DON'T bone it out. I put the 1/4s and pieces on Ice/Water for 3-5 days
keeping it cold but NOT frozen. After that it's cut off the bone and into pieces.

bk - this might be relevant to you, I don't know.

Jerry
Posted By: wytex Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Actually works well on gut shot animals , you don;t have to go into that area.
We do all of our animals lying on the ground and it works easily, even on elk.
We also age everything so never had an issue with toughness after aging.
The quarters get hung and aged when we get home, everything comes apart at the joints and no need to cut bone.
Posted By: NEBHUNTER Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Got to get the heart and liver anyhow
Posted By: AKduck Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
It’s all I do now. Cut up on the ground and into a pack. Hang the quarters when I get home. Usually take a piece of painters plastic to lay out meat as I cut.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
I've done the gutless, skinless method a few times when I killed one a long ways back from any roads. I just cut the hind quarters and front quarters off, leaving the skin on and tie them together in pairs to throw over my shoulders, then roll them onto their stomach, slice the skin down the back and take out the loins. I put those in a plastic garbage bag I carry in my game bag, stick the bagged loins in the game bag and walk out. No I don't worry about the tender loins and heart. Skin out the quarters when you get home.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Originally Posted by Girlhunter
Hard to get the heart out with the insides still inside.




and the liver...

Fresh venison liver, thick sliced bacon, and red onion is a delicacy around here. I feel a bit sorry for those who turn up their nose at it.
Posted By: jwall Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Liver is too dark for my & my famalies’ taste.

The only way to cook Kidneys is to boil the PEEE out of em. grin. laugh

The tenderloin — under backbone — is the MOST tender meat of any WHOLE
Deer. I can’t imagine leaving the T L in the carcass !! crazy

Then again, “Yankees”.

Jerry
As mentioned above, the tenderloins and heart are easy to take out via gutless. The liver, not so much.

I only do gutless. As a matter of fact, I have an elk inner loin marinating right now for dinner tonight.
Posted By: TxHunter80 Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
We hang our from the hind legs and haven't gutted them in years. The ribs are the only I don't take that I would have if I gutted the deer. I have never saved the organs
Posted By: Bob_H_in_NH Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19

gutless is not deboned, except loins and backstrap and neck meat. You can debone, but don't need to unless saving weight.

We've gutless (quaters, loins, backstrap, trim everything else we can) t his year, toss in bags.

I haven't tried getting the loins out without gutting, but haven't done anything bigger than a whitetail. Once everything is "off", its pretty lite, I just slice open the body, dump out the guts, flip onto its back and take out the loins.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/04/19
Originally Posted by jwall
Liver is too dark for my & my famalies’ taste.

The only way to cook Kidneys is to boil the PEEE out of em. grin. laugh

The tenderloin — under backbone — is the MOST tender meat of any WHOLE
Deer. I can’t imagine leaving the T L in the carcass !! crazy

Then again, “Yankees”.

Jerry
My venison all gets ground into burger and sausage these days anyway. It's all the same after that. We've eaten so much venison over the years that I've lost my taste for it and don't care for it plain. The burger gets used for chili or taco meat. The sausage in spaghetti sauce, lasagna or just patties. The spices disguise the venison taste nicely.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/05/19
this is the deer hunting forum and obviously many of you are talking about deer. That's a whole different deal than an elk or moose. A big muley buck can be a weighty subject, too.
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/05/19
Yep, have killed mule deer bucks as large as the average cow elk.
Posted By: New_2_99s Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/05/19
"disguise the venison taste nicely" !

Really ?

I think you're doing it wrong !

wink
only way I have done it for 20 years
Posted By: jwall Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/05/19
It hasn't been 20 for me yet. I learned about 'gutless' here on the 'fire' after I joined in 2010.
It really is the easiest & fastest way (to me) and I do it most of the time.

However when our WX is between 30-50* F, I like to gut and thoroughly rinse them out and Let Them Hang 3-5 days.
I don't get to do that as often as I'd like on account of it being too warm.

Keeping the UNBONED (Un Deboned) meat on ice and water accomplishes the same thing but I prefer to let the WHOLE thing hang.


Jerry
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/05/19
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
"disguise the venison taste nicely" !

Really ?

I think you're doing it wrong !

wink
Think what you want. I don't care for the taste of venison anymore but I do like sausage.. If I'm going to eat plain red meat these days it's going to be beef.
gutless doesn't mean boneless. I've also gutted then quartered with the bone in just to allow it to cool quicker. I've left the hair on, skinned and put in game bags and also into trash bags into a backpack. no one way is better than another really, all depends on what you got and what works best for you. I wouldn't hesitate to hang one in a tree, skin, let cool and debone and pack out if I have the time. if its within a couple hundred yards of where I can drive I'll use a game cart. I once quartered a buffalo with just my edc knife. you do what you can with what you have. The key is to cool it to rigor before cutting, or it will be tough. if you plan on grinding it all anyway, you're gtg either way.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/06/19
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I've done it 4 or 5 times with elk and twice on moose. Every one was extremely tough chewing. Boning meat before it goes into rigor will allow the muscle fibers to contract which makes them tough. Leaving the meat on the bone until it cools enough to go into rigor will prevent the contraction.

IMHO if you let it get into rigor you should let it get out of rigor before cutting further for sure. Get it into rigor and then cut it before it relaxes makes tough meat too.
Posted By: bigwhoop Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/08/19
Originally Posted by bkraft
I hadn't thought of the toughness issue. Thanks guys, I'm gonna rethink this.



No.The gutless method still allows for quarters to have their meat on the bone. I've used gutless on my 5 pt bull and last years caribou. Took the capes off both for should mounts too.
The last resort is removing the meat from the bone before aging. However terrain and distance may dictate otherwise.
Posted By: Blacktail53 Re: Gutless Field Dressing - 12/08/19
Originally Posted by Bob_H_in_NH

gutless is not deboned, except loins and backstrap and neck meat. You can debone, but don't need to unless saving weight.

We've gutless (quaters, loins, backstrap, trim everything else we can) t his year, toss in bags.

I haven't tried getting the loins out without gutting, but haven't done anything bigger than a whitetail. Once everything is "off", its pretty lite, I just slice open the body, dump out the guts, flip onto its back and take out the loins.


Bob,
After completing the gutless dressing, find the last rib and simply make a cut there.
You can then reach in and grab the tenderloin and work it out - usually with just your fingers and no knife.

I don’t bother with heart or liver on deer. I have friends that like elk heart however, so I’ll split the brisket with my hatchet and bring it out.
We don’t care for venison so much anymore - except the straps and tenderloin - I had this years blacktail made into garlic brats.... they’re mighty tasty !
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
"disguise the venison taste nicely" !

Really ?

I think you're doing it wrong !

wink

What? You dont put catsup on it too? Lol l
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